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ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
August 06 2011 12:50 GMT
#501
any reason for people to play with antihack off? if someone is playing with antihack off should you be suspicious?
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 14:01:23
August 06 2011 14:00 GMT
#502
On August 06 2011 21:50 ThePianoDentist wrote:
any reason for people to play with antihack off? if someone is playing with antihack off should you be suspicious?


Sometimes people AH malfunction. I remember mine doing that. I launch SC through ICCUP Launcher and I was wondering why people we're kicking me turns out I have AH off... -_-""

Or some people are just dumb that they cant use AH.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
August 06 2011 14:54 GMT
#503
Well if you want the addons like timer or such that doesnt work with launcher, or agree with someone to play using high res mod etc.. there are lots of cool plugins to starcraft that cannot be used with it.
Aah thats the stuff..
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
August 06 2011 16:41 GMT
#504
On August 06 2011 15:49 don_kyuhote wrote:
How many seconds do scan lasts?

Just under 9 seconds I think and the detection wears off slightly before you lose vision of the area.

On August 06 2011 21:50 ThePianoDentist wrote:
any reason for people to play with antihack off? if someone is playing with antihack off should you be suspicious?

In addition to what was said above, AH doesn't work on macs and if they haven't updated their launcher it won't work.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
August 06 2011 16:48 GMT
#505
When and what kind of upgrades should a protoss go for vs. terran, zerg and protoss?
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
August 06 2011 16:49 GMT
#506
On August 06 2011 12:46 Release wrote:
Has there ever been a game other than Jaedong vs Skyhigh where a terran floats a building over a ridge to cheese?

That description is a little vague. For example, again on Destination, Terran has also 8raxed in his main and then floated it to the lower ground to bunker rush. There were several cheesy factory floats on Plasma, and just recently on Bloody Ridge where the Terran 2facts against Protoss and tries to float the second factory to the high-ground expansion adjacent to his base. Later in the game, of course, it's not too unusual to see Terran land his floating barracks and try to build firebats in the enemy mineral line.
On August 06 2011 15:49 don_kyuhote wrote:
How many seconds do scan lasts?

Scans reveal a 20x20 area of the map for 15 seconds on normal. That would mean that on fastest speed, they last ~9.4 seconds.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
August 06 2011 17:17 GMT
#507
On August 06 2011 12:46 Release wrote:
Has there ever been a game other than Jaedong vs Skyhigh where a terran floats a building over a ridge to cheese?


hwasin vs jaedong on blue storm
he did the 8/8/8 rax fact port build and lifted the fact into his main.
I'm pretty sure it's the same build that reality pulled off on jaedong on monte cristo.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
August 06 2011 17:59 GMT
#508
On August 06 2011 21:50 ThePianoDentist wrote:
any reason for people to play with antihack off? if someone is playing with antihack off should you be suspicious?

Mac players too
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 20:28:22
August 06 2011 20:23 GMT
#509
On August 07 2011 01:48 Jubinell wrote:
When and what kind of upgrades should a protoss go for vs. terran, zerg and protoss?

That's not such a simple question, it depends what builds you're doing really but as a general guideline you want to tech weapons first, armor with the second forge and don't bother with shield upgrades unless you can really afford it, or are going heavy archon in PvZ or something. As for timing, in PvT you normally get your forge as your 3rd base is coming up so tech +1 weapons when that finishes, start your second forge in time for that finishing and if you have your templar archives up you can start teching 2-1 at the same time, in PvZ I think you want to tech +1 weapons (assuming you went Forge FE) after your stargate and citadel are down. Not too sure about PvP tbh.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
August 07 2011 05:42 GMT
#510
On August 07 2011 05:23 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 01:48 Jubinell wrote:
When and what kind of upgrades should a protoss go for vs. terran, zerg and protoss?

That's not such a simple question, it depends what builds you're doing really but as a general guideline you want to tech weapons first, armor with the second forge and don't bother with shield upgrades unless you can really afford it, or are going heavy archon in PvZ or something. As for timing, in PvT you normally get your forge as your 3rd base is coming up so tech +1 weapons when that finishes, start your second forge in time for that finishing and if you have your templar archives up you can start teching 2-1 at the same time, in PvZ I think you want to tech +1 weapons (assuming you went Forge FE) after your stargate and citadel are down. Not too sure about PvP tbh.


I found this Liquipedia article useful

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/The_Importance_of_Upgrades
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
August 07 2011 14:47 GMT
#511
i just had a game where my opponent was beaten said gg....then the waiting for players screen pops up, it goes away with 15 seconds spare and the game carries on, then it comes up again...it reaches 0...i drop him....but i didnt get a win for it. on iccup website (yes ive waited a while for update) the match doesn't exist. was this just a server problem or a douche using a hack to not get a loss.

and does manual reporting uploading the replay over iccup work. im not too bothered about my rank, but it just leaves a bit of a sour taste after an epic 40ish minute long macro win.
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
August 07 2011 15:47 GMT
#512
On August 07 2011 23:47 ThePianoDentist wrote:
i just had a game where my opponent was beaten said gg....then the waiting for players screen pops up, it goes away with 15 seconds spare and the game carries on, then it comes up again...it reaches 0...i drop him....but i didnt get a win for it. on iccup website (yes ive waited a while for update) the match doesn't exist. was this just a server problem or a douche using a hack to not get a loss.

and does manual reporting uploading the replay over iccup work. im not too bothered about my rank, but it just leaves a bit of a sour taste after an epic 40ish minute long macro win.


That is a prime example of a drophack. You can manually report the game I'm pretty sure and it will work. I usually take a screenshot of the drop screen as well and include that for extra evidence (you still 100% need the replay though)
Carny
Profile Joined April 2009
Croatia284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 22:47:18
August 07 2011 22:46 GMT
#513
Can someone tell me who the guy in black is who appears after oov slams the ground at the beginning? (at about 11 seconds). I thought its Reach but he appears at the end and has a different uniform.

Link
Shutting from the Sky
micromegas
Profile Joined November 2008
Denmark171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 23:22:03
August 07 2011 23:21 GMT
#514
On May 09 2011 08:48 Frigo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 08:30 ytter wrote:
i have a very relevant question:
Does a mind controlled overlord give protoss supply?

It only gives zerg type of supply, which is pointless if you do not have any zerg units. You can however, use it for detection if for some twisted reason you have Mind Control and a Dark Archon with enough energy, but no Observer. I believe you can use it as transport for protoss units as well if the zerg researched it. Need confirmation on this one though.


Show nested quote +
Q: Does Dark Swarm protect static defense buildings like sunks and spores the same way it protects units?
On May 09 2011 06:50 Kassploj wrote:
No, buildings are not affected by dark swarm, only units.


Mind you that sunkens use a type of ranged attack, and dark swarm neutralizes this attack. For these two reasons it is HIGHLY inadvisable to cast dark swarm on a sunken farm.


I played some costum campaigns recently and fooled around a lot - among other things I mind controlled a bunch of Terrasque (an Ultralisk "special character" from the final Terran mission in BW that keeps spawning and has a crapton of hp and such). Besides, I mind controlled some overlords, and they transported Protoss and Terran units as well. For the record, mind controlled units don't count towards any psi-limit, they'll just create and exceed a race-specific psi-limit of 0.
We need help, the poet reckoned.
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
August 07 2011 23:56 GMT
#515
On August 08 2011 07:46 Carny wrote:
Can someone tell me who the guy in black is who appears after oov slams the ground at the beginning? (at about 11 seconds). I thought its Reach but he appears at the end and has a different uniform.

Link

[image loading]

(Z)SaferZerg
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 08 2011 03:49 GMT
#516
How can i become a better terran player ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
micromegas
Profile Joined November 2008
Denmark171 Posts
August 08 2011 08:24 GMT
#517
On August 08 2011 08:56 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 07:46 Carny wrote:
Can someone tell me who the guy in black is who appears after oov slams the ground at the beginning? (at about 11 seconds). I thought its Reach but he appears at the end and has a different uniform.

Link

[image loading]

(Z)SaferZerg


You probably shouldn't let Reach know that you thought that was Reach...

We need help, the poet reckoned.
Carny
Profile Joined April 2009
Croatia284 Posts
August 08 2011 09:42 GMT
#518
On August 08 2011 08:56 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 07:46 Carny wrote:
Can someone tell me who the guy in black is who appears after oov slams the ground at the beginning? (at about 11 seconds). I thought its Reach but he appears at the end and has a different uniform.

Link

[image loading]

(Z)SaferZerg


Are you sure? I think SaferZerg is the right one in the Khan Uniform.
Shutting from the Sky
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 10:39:39
August 08 2011 09:45 GMT
#519
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 08 2011 17:24 micromegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 08:56 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
On August 08 2011 07:46 Carny wrote:
Can someone tell me who the guy in black is who appears after oov slams the ground at the beginning? (at about 11 seconds). I thought its Reach but he appears at the end and has a different uniform.

Link

[image loading]

(Z)SaferZerg


You probably shouldn't let Reach know that you thought that was Reach...


Too true, and not just Reach, either. There could be hammers involved. Relevant battle report:

On January 17 2005 20:48 Manifesto7 wrote:
Game 3: Reach (p) 59-48 vs SaferZerg (z) 16-11 on Neo Guillotine

I have heard rumblings about my reporting being somewhat biased towards Reach, and that I should try to be more impartial. I apologize for this, and will try to curb my enthusiasm for him from now on.

The greatest StarCraft player on the earth today (23-28 vs Z) warped in at five, while SaferZerg (4-3 vs P) spawned across the map at eleven. Safer went for a safe twelve pool build while scouting the map, while Odin himself used his brilliant intellect and cunning to start with a forge-first build which quickly led to a fast nexus. It looked as if the game would boil down to a race between Reach’s sairs and Safer’s mutalisks, but in reality there was no competition. Saferzerg was forced to switch to lurkers while the Gifted One’s air power dominated the skies.

While Safer looked to contain with his new lurkers, Reach simply shrugged off his opponents mild attempts at resistance as his dt artfully ninja sliced the drones at Safer’s expansion. Bordering on contempt for this pathetic display of zerg offense, Reach broke out of his main with a zeal/goon/temp army, decimating his opponent’s lurkers and expanding two more times. With only one expansion, Safer was unable to keep up with the protoss macro game, and with every breath Reach gave life to new legions of armies willing to do his bidding. As Safer huddled in the corner of the map, mounting no offense and trying to avoid detection, Reach launched his Spartans relentlessly, raining blue fire down upon the confused and frightened zerg. With the blood running in torrents, Safer quickly taped out in the face of the onslaught, took one look at the face of God, and ran from the MegaWeb studio to find solace in the company of lesser mortals.

Reach simply got up, made all the girls swoon with a single smile, and then got into his cloud car and headed back to the heavens for fine wine and peeled grapes.

Reach > SaferZerg

Unfortunately, this does not change things for my Mudang hero. However, he will ultimately extract revenge upon all those who attempt to sully his name.


Edit:
On August 08 2011 18:42 Carny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 08:56 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
On August 08 2011 07:46 Carny wrote:
Can someone tell me who the guy in black is who appears after oov slams the ground at the beginning? (at about 11 seconds). I thought its Reach but he appears at the end and has a different uniform.

Link

[image loading]

(Z)SaferZerg


Are you sure? I think SaferZerg is the right one in the Khan Uniform.

You know what, you're right. Sorry, my mistake. I assumed that was just the KTF or SKT uniform from the back and didn't think about it, going for the legible answer. In that case, it's probably (Z)Clon. Can't believe I forgot about Hanbit's black uniform.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
August 08 2011 11:19 GMT
#520
So is it standard for Terran to switch to Mech in TvZ if Terran fails to stop Zerg from securing 4th gas?
I think it's a pretty accepted fact that once Zerg has 4th or more gas and near fully upgraded Ultra ling with defiler support, Bio with Vessel support just doesn't cut it.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
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