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[Q]Mutalisk micro with Hold

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JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 21:18:56
December 27 2009 21:17 GMT
#1
I recently started playing some Mutalisk micro maps and would like to try the "H" attack method vs Marines. I searched TL.net for a guide and couldn't find anything helpful. I apologize if I missed any threads but the only reliable result I got was a post saying "to press "H" when the Mutalisks get in attack range and they'll fire". I tried this method a few times and it seemed a bit inconsistent as the Mutalisks had to get much closer than with right-click or A-move to attack.

Am I doing something wrong? Someone please correct me on this. Thanks.
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
December 27 2009 21:32 GMT
#2
If your playing on battle net thats why.
Otherwise just timing and practice...?
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TeH_Mentalist
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Korea (South)244 Posts
December 27 2009 21:35 GMT
#3
On December 28 2009 06:32 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
If your playing on battle net thats why.
Otherwise just timing and practice...?

agreed
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 27 2009 21:46 GMT
#4
To actually get the Mutalisk micro the same as online, just play Mutalisk micro at UDP or play at UDP, it always delays a bit or two.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 27 2009 22:00 GMT
#5
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Mutalisk_Harassment

All you could ever need to know about muta micro.
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s[O]rry
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada398 Posts
December 28 2009 02:10 GMT
#6
Battlenet latency is lose for muta micro.
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AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
December 28 2009 02:39 GMT
#7
you cannot muta micro on battlenet
the lag is just too high.

in LAN tho just time your muta when the mouth is facing marine then press H it will spread all glave worm
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 28 2009 16:50 GMT
#8
I micro all the time on bnet with hold position just fine. You're going to take some hits but it's not like his units react any faster than yours do, just h-rightclick really quickly and the mutas will respond similarly to how they do on lan.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 28 2009 16:52 GMT
#9
But in regards to your original post, if your mutas are being shot at by something like a rine or a turret and you try to use hold position, they'll freeze up unless you can hit what's attacking them. So if you're trying to use hold micro over an scv line make sure nothing is attacking you when you do.
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Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 17:46:23
December 28 2009 17:37 GMT
#10
What I've found to be working very nicely is you clump your mutas together, then you right klick on a marine/turret/whatever you want to kill and then when you are in range press hold and instantly move them away. It's for some reason been working better for me than just flying towards the marines and then hit hold.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
December 28 2009 19:46 GMT
#11
On December 29 2009 02:37 Intr3pid wrote:
What I've found to be working very nicely is you clump your mutas together, then you right klick on a marine/turret/whatever you want to kill and then when you are in range press hold and instantly move them away. It's for some reason been working better for me than just flying towards the marines and then hit hold.


when you hold, it sprays, so u can kill more marines
Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
December 28 2009 22:11 GMT
#12
When they stim that's true, else the spraying can be healed through by the medics. I don't know, muta micro is just something you need to get a feeling for, everyone has its own preferred technique.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
January 03 2010 04:21 GMT
#13
Try right clicking a little past your target if possible before hitting 'h'. Mostly just practice and get into the rhythm/timing.
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Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
January 03 2010 04:37 GMT
#14
i would not recommend relying too heavily on the mutalisk micro maps, because computers actually can and will shoot down the most heavily-damaged mutalisk, making the micro much harder on you, forcing you to spend more time trying to harass, and averting your attention to the micro when you should be macroing, etc etc

it would be better to practice in-game because it helps you deal with the whole situation better imo
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ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-03 08:00:53
January 03 2010 07:59 GMT
#15
On December 29 2009 04:46 saltywet wrote:
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On December 29 2009 02:37 Intr3pid wrote:
What I've found to be working very nicely is you clump your mutas together, then you right klick on a marine/turret/whatever you want to kill and then when you are in range press hold and instantly move them away. It's for some reason been working better for me than just flying towards the marines and then hit hold.


when you hold, it sprays, so u can kill more marines

you didn't really get what he said. He said that instead of clicking in front of rines to form a straight line between muta and rines, you can right click on one of them and it automaticaly gets into the right angle and just before it should shoot, you hit "h" so it sprays.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 03 2010 08:04 GMT
#16
Umm... No. All methods for Muta micro work just fine and at the same range. It shouldn't be that hard to learn how to Muta micro... I guess check the LP page or watch some FPVODs.
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
January 03 2010 08:54 GMT
#17
When you use hold position a few things are important.

-Make sure your mutas are directly facing the enemy unit they want to attack. If they are facing a medic/scv, but there are marines next to it, it won't target the medic/scv unless the marines are far enough away. If they aren't facing any units, they won't attack anything.

-If the terran approaches you with stimmed marines, you can't allow him to get too close. I find mutas usually will not fire if you were expecting them to be 4 range away and they have closed the gap to 2 range or so.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
January 03 2010 10:04 GMT
#18
I use stop, baller status technique right there.
Instructions:
1) Get near your enemy
2) Press Stop
3) Back out
4) Repeat, works like a charm
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 03 2010 10:40 GMT
#19
You need to practice to get ot know the maximum possible range mutas can attack from. That will take a lot of time and practice, and even watching VODs will help, but it will definitely help with using hold position.
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Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
January 03 2010 13:17 GMT
#20
I have been playing Starcraft lately with different keyboard to find out I am microing my mutas with g
works like shit, every time.
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Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
January 03 2010 18:54 GMT
#21
I had absolutely horrible muta micro until about a week ago. I improved it greatly by playing about 20 match point zvts in a row doing 2 hatch muta every game. Its an awesome map to harass on and playing 2 hatch forces you to find ways to do damage with your mutas. Now I'm much more confident taking on clusters of turrets and groups of marines in the right situations.

I still prefer 3 hatch muta to 2 hatch, but without making myself play 2 hatch for awhile I probably would never have developed the confidence to commit my mutas to many hazardous situations.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 03 2010 21:44 GMT
#22
O____O im sorry but i never use hold for mutals
im pretty sure "patrol" could work
but i manually click or "a" click on individual marines/units when i micro my mutals

and when i need to expand or something i just move my mutals out of firing range and just do what i need to do ..
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 10:56:35
January 04 2010 10:55 GMT
#23
On January 04 2010 06:44 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
O____O im sorry but i never use hold for mutals
im pretty sure "patrol" could work
but i manually click or "a" click on individual marines/units when i micro my mutals

and when i need to expand or something i just move my mutals out of firing range and just do what i need to do ..


But using patrol or clicking will cause the mutas to focus fire (especially in using patrol, if ur mutas direction is incorrect, it may screwed up your stack).. In a small group of mm if u wanna just kill it off with mutas, using H is the best as it literally sprays their atks, which may result u in killing at most 3rines in one shot.. I like to hover my thumb on the H cos i can easily just do 5sh and make my 4-6 lurkers, and building hatchery..
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