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Origami
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 02:39:53
July 21 2009 02:38 GMT
#1
CJ Entus vs Samsung KHAN

Day 1 - 7/25

(T)Iris <Andromeda> (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh <Destination> (Z)great
(Z)EffOrt <Neo Harmony> (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro <Neo Medusa> (T)Miracle
(P)Movie <Heartbreak Ridge> (P)JangBi
(P)Much <Shades of Twilight> (P)Stork
Closer <Outsider>


Day 2 - 7/26

(T)sKyHigh <Shades of Twilight> (P)Stork
(Z)Kwanro <Neo Medusa> (T)Miracle
(Z)EffOrt <Heartbreak Ridge> (Z)great
(P)Much <Destination> (P)JangBi
(T)Iris <Neo Harmony> (T)firebathero
(P)Movie <Andromeda> (Z)Juni
Closer <Outsider>

ACE MATCH: Outsider

Source: Fomos

These were a lot earlier than expected.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
July 21 2009 02:42 GMT
#2
Haha day 1 will be a slaughter. CJ has insane depth and great lineup choices (Good job Coach Cho!)

Day 2 is definitely much more favorable to Khan - imo it will come down to a 4-3 victory either way and I dont think anyone can stop Effort in the ultimate Ace even if Khan does pull it out.

Either of them is getting stomped by Oz next round though
Writerman what
Atlantian
Profile Joined December 2007
United States302 Posts
July 21 2009 02:42 GMT
#3
Can't wait, let's go Khan.

Hopefully FBH can get at least one win this round. Since he is playing his two best match ups......again. Choking bad lately ugh.
If Barbie is so popular why do we have to buy her friends?
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
July 21 2009 02:43 GMT
#4
odd, both teams send out two of each race in the 1st match, and in pairs none the less. Too bad there is only tvz and pvp on day 1

Both days look like fun, but unless KHAN is really back, CJ should have no trouble. My only concern for CJ is how they could lose a close one 4-3 and then it all comes down to one game, and JangBi can be sooo good.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
July 21 2009 02:43 GMT
#5
woot for no nbs.
Commentator
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 21 2009 02:43 GMT
#6
CJ going to dominate
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 21 2009 02:43 GMT
#7
I'm kind of disappointed that Khan realized Frozen is terrible. It's fun to watch him fail and I wanted him to extend his "perfect" Proleague record this season.
Zero fighting.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 21 2009 02:44 GMT
#8
Go KHAN!
:]
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
July 21 2009 02:45 GMT
#9
at least there wont be as many mirror MUs this week :D
I like starcraft
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
July 21 2009 02:48 GMT
#10
Ace match map is Outsider. CJ's been sending out Savior out on outsider a lot. I hope CJ doesn't send Savior out though, he's terrible in zvz.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Origami
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 02:49:52
July 21 2009 02:49 GMT
#11
Movie probably going to go 1-1 this week. The better his opponent is, the higher his chances of winning apparently. Then he'll fail miserably against Juni.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2384 Posts
July 21 2009 02:51 GMT
#12
I can totally see KHAN winning this, don't know what you other clowns are on about.
The original Bogus fan.
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 21 2009 02:54 GMT
#13
I can see three ace matches coming out of this.
Arf
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66145 Posts
July 21 2009 02:55 GMT
#14
On July 21 2009 11:43 GTR wrote:
woot for no nbs.

This.

Why nbs over much? rofl. Finally much gets to play!

CJ takes this 2-0.
POGGERS
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
July 21 2009 02:58 GMT
#15
i cant wait to see effort savaging firebathero's face, RELENTLESSLY
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 21 2009 02:58 GMT
#16
On July 21 2009 11:42 Atlantian wrote:
Can't wait, let's go Khan.

Hopefully FBH can get at least one win this round. Since he is playing his two best match ups......again. Choking bad lately ugh.
uh, its not a choke, fbh is just genuinely not good anymore.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 03:36:49
July 21 2009 02:59 GMT
#17
What's interesting is that while Samsung has only two players who are playing on more than one map (jangbi and great on Destination and Heartbreak—good luck), on day 2 only one CJ player will play on the same map he played on day 1 (Kwanro on Neo Medusa). CJ banking heavily on their depth and versatility while Samsung largely sticks to one player for one map.

Also, these matchups look like upset city to me.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 21 2009 03:00 GMT
#18
Coach Cho is a genius. When it all goes down, CJ's gonna win it (but IMHO, It's gonna be really close..)
I see a Much and Berserker
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 21 2009 03:01 GMT
#19
Day 1 lineups look so badass with 4 TvZs in a row!
CJ lineup looks scarier then STX and with outsider for all the ace matches, CJ looks to have this wrapped up.
Sucks that Great has to face Cj's 2 aces but if he wins I will be freaking out.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
July 21 2009 03:01 GMT
#20
cj has such deep depth rooting for cj! go poker-faced team
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66145 Posts
July 21 2009 03:02 GMT
#21
Poor FBH, he's going to get raped three times on Neo Harmony.
POGGERS
TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
July 21 2009 03:03 GMT
#22
This is looking really good for CJ right now.

I can definitely see them 4-0 or 4-1 Khan in the first day. The second day looks as though the match-ups are more equal; but should still be a victory for CJ whether 4-2 or 4-3.

CJ is definitely looking as though they will make it to the finals against SKT due to their sheer depth and skill throughout their team.
^_^V
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 21 2009 03:06 GMT
#23
(T)Iris > (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh > (Z)great
(Z)EffOrt > (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro < (T)Miracle
(P)Movie > (P)JangBi



(T)sKyHigh > (P)Stork
(Z)Kwanro < (T)Miracle
(Z)EffOrt > (Z)great
(P)Much < (P)JangBi
(T)Iris < (T)firebathero
(P)Movie > (Z)Juni
skyhigh > great

NO NEED FOR ACE MATCH CJ WINS (I hope)
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 03:11:35
July 21 2009 03:06 GMT
#24
LOOOOOOOOOL
Khan has this on his pocket IMO.
I just want to see awesome matchs like last week >.<

IM going to bump this thread with all the rapes quotes when Khan eliminates CJ D=<
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
July 21 2009 03:07 GMT
#25
CJ will rape Day 1, and Day 2 looks a bit more balanced. Maybe in favor of Khan by a bit.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 21 2009 03:10 GMT
#26
I just noticed... CJ's lineup is exactly the same for both days LOL

send idra for ace set gogogo
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 21 2009 03:10 GMT
#27
On July 21 2009 12:01 kNyTTyM wrote:
Day 1 lineups look so badass with 4 TvZs in a row!
CJ lineup looks scarier then STX and with outsider for all the ace matches, CJ looks to have this wrapped up.
Sucks that Great has to face Cj's 2 aces but if he wins I will be freaking out.

Holy crap, Outsider 3 times in a row. That's imba.
Arf
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
July 21 2009 03:13 GMT
#28
On July 21 2009 11:55 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 11:43 GTR wrote:
woot for no nbs.

This.

Why nbs over much? rofl. Finally much gets to play!

CJ takes this 2-0.


If only 2v2 still existed.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 21 2009 03:14 GMT
#29
those at kespa really love outsider
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
July 21 2009 03:25 GMT
#30
all CJ fans remember that it looked exactly the same for STX last week (almost every set seemed to heavily lean towards STX) and look what happened. This is hte playoffs, where any schmuck can luck himself a win.
I like starcraft
orcsmash
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada319 Posts
July 21 2009 03:29 GMT
#31
Savior vs FBH super ace!
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 21 2009 03:32 GMT
#32
On July 21 2009 12:29 orcsmash wrote:
Savior vs FBH super ace!

I endorse this idea.

Day 1 seems to heavily the bad guys(), but Day 2 looks like quite a better for KHAN.

We'll see how it goes.
Liquipedia
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
July 21 2009 03:34 GMT
#33
On July 21 2009 12:32 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 12:29 orcsmash wrote:
Savior vs FBH super ace!

I endorse this idea.

Day 1 seems to heavily the bad guys(), but Day 2 looks like quite a better for KHAN.

We'll see how it goes.


What? are you for real?
Khan the first day its going to win 4-3 and the second day 4-2. Just look at the lineups, CJ its a very good team but on this stages its were KHAN gets really really really good
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 21 2009 03:37 GMT
#34
I'm rooting for CJ, but unlike everyone else, I don't think CJ has this in the bag.

For day 1, the first 4 games all have a CJ player as favorite to win, however, some of those games could be a bit unpredictable. It is easily possible that one of those favorites could drop a game. And then Khan has Jangbi and Stork both as favorites to win. If Khan can pull that, then they can carry the momentum advantage into the ace match. I predict CJ wins 4:3 in the ace match. I don't predict an easy win.

For day 2, Stork has been practicing a lot of Shades of Twilight and could pull an upset. Likewise, Miracle or Great could pull an upset. I'd say Jangbi and FBH are the favorites. Thankfully Movie is the clear favorite, but Juni seems to be a ZvP specialist, so it's not a lock.I predict a 3:4 loss to Khan here.

I'd feel better for CJ if Effort could snipe Jangbi or Stork. Even if they are slumping, they are the most dangerous threats on the Khan line-up.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2384 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 03:41:29
July 21 2009 03:40 GMT
#35
On July 21 2009 12:25 Ideas wrote:
all CJ fans remember that it looked exactly the same for STX last week (almost every set seemed to heavily lean towards STX) and look what happened. This is hte playoffs, where any schmuck can luck himself a win.

STX didn't send out Bogus. They deserve their loss. Stop bawwwwing about it in every thread.
The original Bogus fan.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 03:41:59
July 21 2009 03:41 GMT
#36
I don't see anyone on Khan that is favoured against Effort in the ace matches.
Commentator
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
July 21 2009 03:41 GMT
#37
FBH comeback i believe!
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
July 21 2009 03:46 GMT
#38
Should be easy for Khan.
CJ can take it to Ace game in Day 1 but it's they will get raped rardly in Day 2. Goodluck to CJ. They need it.
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 03:49:44
July 21 2009 03:47 GMT
#39
Effort and Iris are also playing each other in GOM about two hours after Day 2's match. @@
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
July 21 2009 03:48 GMT
#40
On July 21 2009 12:41 GTR wrote:
I don't see anyone on Khan that is favoured against Effort in the ace matches.

Complettly agree. Just like against Calm. Poor Khan.
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
July 21 2009 04:03 GMT
#41
All three aces on Outsider hmmm... if im not mistaken it would seem like Khan is thinking of Stork for ace, he's not in full form but he is their most mature and experienced player so I suppose it's fair he should have that responsibility...
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
July 21 2009 04:04 GMT
#42
On July 21 2009 12:47 Yiruru wrote:
Effort and Iris are also playing each other in GOM about two hours after Day 2's match. @@

They won't be practicing for GOM. Pro league playoffs is much, much more important than the GSL.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 21 2009 04:07 GMT
#43
That's what they WANT each other to think. Hoho~ lets see which one is a sneaky TeamKiller.
Maybe not a lot of practice, but certainly more than none at all.
Arf
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 21 2009 04:12 GMT
#44
YES less mirror matchups
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 04:17:50
July 21 2009 04:17 GMT
#45
On July 21 2009 12:34 FranzF1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 12:32 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 21 2009 12:29 orcsmash wrote:
Savior vs FBH super ace!

I endorse this idea.

Day 1 seems to heavily the bad guys(), but Day 2 looks like quite a better for KHAN.

We'll see how it goes.


What? are you for real?
Khan the first day its going to win 4-3 and the second day 4-2. Just look at the lineups, CJ its a very good team but on this stages its were KHAN gets really really really good


Uh are you for real?


Odin is a horrible zerg.
sKyHigh favored vs great
Effort favored vs firebathero
Kwanro favored vs Miracle
Movie at a bit of disadvantage vs JangBi
Stork favored vs Much
Nobody favored vs EffOrt

sKyHigh on a T map, prob even with Stork
Kwanro favored vs Miracle
EffOrt favored vs great
Jangbi favored vs Much
Iris even FBH
Movie favored over Juni
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 04:33:47
July 21 2009 04:30 GMT
#46
Day 1 - 7/25

(T)Iris >>> (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh ???(Z)great
(Z)EffOrt >>> (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro >>>(T)Miracle
(P)Movie <<<(P)JangBi
(P)Much ???(P)Stork

Day 2 - 7/26

(T)sKyHigh ??? (P)Stork
(Z)Kwanro >>> (T)Miracle
(Z)EffOrt ??? (Z)great
(P)Much ??? (P)JangBi
(T)Iris >>> (T)firebathero
(P)Movie >>> (Z)Juni

I think day 2 is easier for cj. Effort is probably favored over great too in most other people's eyes.
Wake up Mr. B!
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
July 21 2009 04:36 GMT
#47
LOL silly CJ fans... this is funny... its like STX all over again =D
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
Fredflintstone
Profile Joined January 2009
439 Posts
July 21 2009 04:38 GMT
#48
On July 21 2009 12:48 geod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 12:41 GTR wrote:
I don't see anyone on Khan that is favoured against Effort in the ace matches.

Complettly agree. Just like against Calm. Poor Khan.

Calm isn't even close to Effort's level.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
July 21 2009 04:45 GMT
#49
On July 21 2009 13:38 Fredflintstone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 12:48 geod wrote:
On July 21 2009 12:41 GTR wrote:
I don't see anyone on Khan that is favoured against Effort in the ace matches.

Complettly agree. Just like against Calm. Poor Khan.

Calm isn't even close to Effort's level.


he will be again once JB somehow beats Effort in the super ace match
I like starcraft
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
July 21 2009 04:54 GMT
#50
God, what is Effort level? Bonjwa? Multiple Starleague Champion? StarLeague Finalist? Semi Finalist? He is just a very promised, up and rising player with no achivement yet, overhyped, totally untested at the highest level just like Sea before.
But after all why doest it matter anywayl? I already agree with your first post, right?-_-
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
July 21 2009 04:55 GMT
#51
Poor Miracle has to get Kwanrolled 2 days in a row. Feel sorry for the kid
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 05:28:23
July 21 2009 05:24 GMT
#52
These are good matchups for KHAN, day 2 is PERFECT. Every KHAN player is playing their best MU. Outsider for all 3 aces is balanced PvZ unlike some of the ace maps vs STX e.g. Andromeda. I look forward to another round of shocked whinging after the KHAN victory .
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
July 21 2009 05:40 GMT
#53
Rooting for Khan =), you can do it.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 21 2009 05:48 GMT
#54
On July 21 2009 13:54 geod wrote:
God, what is Effort level? Bonjwa? Multiple Starleague Champion? StarLeague Finalist? Semi Finalist? He is just a very promised, up and rising player with no achivement yet, overhyped, totally untested at the highest level just like Sea before.
But after all why doest it matter anywayl? I already agree with your first post, right?-_-

So could you remind the community who EffOrt lost to recently? The only thing that comes to mind is that he's 1-2 vs JD in the last 2 months, with his victory being way more dominating that JD's.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
July 21 2009 05:51 GMT
#55
i'm pumped for 4 ZvTs to begin day 1. favorite matchup
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 21 2009 05:55 GMT
#56
if there's anything these threads prove it's that a bunch of idiots come out the woodwork with ridiculous predictions lol
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 05:58:10
July 21 2009 05:57 GMT
#57
Both sides really. I haven't seen a neutral one yet.
I mean
Much=Stork, LOL, as if.
And Khan supporters banking on false logic.
Arf
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 21 2009 05:59 GMT
#58
exactly lol. Much is decent and yes he can upset Stork because Much is known for busting out insane games every other week but come on - I'm pretty sure most of us agree that Stork is the clear favorite.

Likewise anyone saying a player isn't favored to win but can upset the other - well duh. But you don't extrapolate that to assume that makes their team have a much better shot. They are the underdog for a reason.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 21 2009 06:07 GMT
#59
(T)Iris > (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh > (Z)great (All depends on which (T)sKyHigh we get)
(Z)EffOrt > (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro > (T)Miracle
(P)Movie < (P)JangBi (But watch out for some crazy snipe build)
(P)Much < (P)Stork (Again, watch out for some crazy one-off)
(Z)EffOrt > KHAN (None of KHAN's aces can take (Z)EffOrt right now)

(T)sKyHigh > (P)Stork
(Z)Kwanro > (T)Miracle
(Z)EffOrt > (Z)great
(P)Much < (P)JangBi
(T)Iris > (T)firebathero
(P)Movie > (Z)Juni
(Z)EffOrt > KHAN

(Z)EffOrt > KHAN
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
July 21 2009 06:25 GMT
#60
CJ is a bit favoured yes, but these are as good matchups as Khan could have hoped for, so I say they're in with a really good chance and both series will be exciting. If Khan players bring their A-game then it should come down to ace matches, and outsider is balanced so Khan's protoss aces have a good chance against anything on it, effort included. Stork especially, he is excellent on outsider.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
July 21 2009 06:26 GMT
#61
I think CJ will win this easier then against Hite . I wonder who Hwaseung will send in the 6 games other then Jaedong Backho Lomo and Hiya . Probably Killer and Young is my geuss .
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7216 Posts
July 21 2009 06:36 GMT
#62
Predictions:
Day 1:
(T)Iris > (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh > (Z)great
(Z)EffOrt > (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro > (T)Miracle
Day 2:
(T)sKyHigh > (P)Stork
(Z)Kwanro > (T)Miracle
(Z)EffOrt > (Z)great
(P)Much < (P)JangBi
(T)Iris > (T)firebathero

GL Khan(t)!
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
July 21 2009 06:48 GMT
#63
nice, tons of zvt on day 1
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 21 2009 06:58 GMT
#64
God these lineups are just so much more interesting than the mass mirrors CJ played in the first round. EffOrt vs. FBH, sKyHigh vs. great, and sKyHigh vs. Stork should all be amazing. Even the mirrors are really interesting. Movie vs. JangBi should be a closely matched PvP imo, Much vs. Stork probably will favor KHAN more but should be fun, EffOrt vs. great matches two top notch ZvZers, Much vs. JangBi is another good PvP mu, and Iris vs. FBH pits a rejuvenated Terran against a slumping one, but one who can still play great TvT at times.

Really gotta say CJ got the upper hand in the lineups though. Day 1 could easily, easily be a sweep in CJ's favor, and they have a shot in the Movie/JangBi game as well. Day 2 is very even though, which should make for an exciting day. Coach Cho has to be ecstatic that JangBi is playing PvP both days - something that he prepared for I'm sure. Outsider as the map for every ace match is so appropriate, it's the best balanced map in the pool and should make for good games if it gets that far.

My prediction is CJ wins 4-1 on Day 1 and 4-3 on Day 2. No need for the OT ace match this time, CJ seems clearly superior when looking at these lineups. BUT lineups never play out the way they look on paper so it should be interesting I'm sure.
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JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
July 21 2009 07:11 GMT
#65
On July 21 2009 15:26 raga4ka wrote:
I think CJ will win this easier then against Hite . I wonder who Hwaseung will send in the 6 games other then Jaedong Backho Lomo and Hiya . Probably Killer and Young is my geuss .

Forgg and Anytime. Oops =]

Cool lineups, looking good for CJ, but not going to jinx it heh. CJ hwaiting! And as saddening as it is for me to say this, I'm sort of happy Savior isn't playing =(
KT_Violet
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
July 21 2009 07:24 GMT
#66
On July 21 2009 16:11 JIJIyO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 15:26 raga4ka wrote:
I think CJ will win this easier then against Hite . I wonder who Hwaseung will send in the 6 games other then Jaedong Backho Lomo and Hiya . Probably Killer and Young is my geuss .

Forgg and Anytime. Oops =]



i see what you did there on your 666th post
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
July 21 2009 08:57 GMT
#67
On July 21 2009 16:24 scyper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 16:11 JIJIyO wrote:
On July 21 2009 15:26 raga4ka wrote:
I think CJ will win this easier then against Hite . I wonder who Hwaseung will send in the 6 games other then Jaedong Backho Lomo and Hiya . Probably Killer and Young is my geuss .

Forgg and Anytime. Oops =]



i see what you did there on your 666th post

invoke the past awesomeness of forgg/anytime and channel them through the current three stooges that are lomo/hiya/backho?

god i hope so.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
July 21 2009 11:27 GMT
#68
On July 21 2009 11:59 EvoChamber wrote:
Also, these matchups look like upset city to me.


Agreed. Samsung stands more than a reasonable chance of taking both days.

Going to be interesting!
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 21 2009 11:42 GMT
#69
Outsider is a pretty balanced, strategically deep map with a lot of options. I wouldn't go as far as calling Effort a heavy favourite on it, Samsung definitely has a fair chance of beating any of CJ's Aces there.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 21 2009 12:45 GMT
#70
The first day for Samsung does not bode well. Sets 5 and 6 Samsung have a sure lock on, since both Jangbi and Stork are absolutely killer PvP players, but the first four sets look heavily in favor for CJ. CJ is going to work very hard in making the first day into a 4-0 sweep otherwise things will become far more difficult for them.

Second day should be interesting, could go either way.
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 21 2009 12:54 GMT
#71
khans linup of day1 is weird... i don't really get why the put stork and jangbi on 5 and 6. i guess cj will take this easily.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 21 2009 13:10 GMT
#72
day1,with stork and jangbi on the last 2 games,its gg for khan
day2,decent MU from both side,maybe 4-3 or super ace

i dont see Much can win any of these 2 days,for Super ace it'd better be Much or savior vs FBH lol

and is FPL ready for this weekend's games?
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
July 21 2009 13:12 GMT
#73
Where are you Savior?
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 21 2009 13:21 GMT
#74
gogo CJ!~!
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
July 21 2009 14:12 GMT
#75
Let me be the first to say:

Day 1 - 7/25

(T)Iris < (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh < (Z)great
(Z)EffOrt > (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro < (T)Miracle
(P)Movie < (P)JangBi

Day 2 - 7/26

(T)sKyHigh < (P)Stork
(Z)Kwanro < (T)Miracle
(Z)EffOrt > (Z)great
(P)Much < (P)JangBi
(T)Iris < (T)firebathero
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 21 2009 14:27 GMT
#76
good lineups . i cant wait to see them battling it out gonna be so awesome ;]
T H C makes ppl happy
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
July 21 2009 14:34 GMT
#77
oDin is a macro Zerg and it's Andromeda he will stomp Iris.
Stork protoss legend
WrongEdge
Profile Joined May 2009
Singapore57 Posts
July 21 2009 14:45 GMT
#78
Looking forward to more bm from skyhigh. Crush those fools CJ.
SlayerS_`HackeR`
Profile Joined November 2008
United States190 Posts
July 21 2009 15:35 GMT
#79
On July 21 2009 11:42 Atrioc wrote:
Haha day 1 will be a slaughter. CJ has insane depth and great lineup choices (Good job Coach Cho!)

Day 2 is definitely much more favorable to Khan - imo it will come down to a 4-3 victory either way and I dont think anyone can stop Effort in the ultimate Ace even if Khan does pull it out.

Either of them is getting stomped by Oz next round though


acompletely agreed, because if you notice the line-up, day 1 is khan pitted up with their worst match ups against the cj entus. day 2, however, is khan pitting their players to their advantage with their best match ups against the races
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imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
July 21 2009 15:39 GMT
#80
Coach Cho did a sick job picking the line ups.

to me, almost all of CJ's match ups look great for them
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 21 2009 15:55 GMT
#81
On July 21 2009 23:34 InDaHouse wrote:
oDin is a macro Zerg and it's Andromeda he will stomp Iris.

If Odin wasn't awful you might have a point. Out of all the games, that's the one where I'd be most surprised to see an upset.

I think CJ is overall somewhat favoured, but anyone who doesn't think KHAN has a decent chance is a fool.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 21 2009 18:07 GMT
#82
On July 22 2009 00:35 SlayerS_`HackeR` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 11:42 Atrioc wrote:
Haha day 1 will be a slaughter. CJ has insane depth and great lineup choices (Good job Coach Cho!)

Day 2 is definitely much more favorable to Khan - imo it will come down to a 4-3 victory either way and I dont think anyone can stop Effort in the ultimate Ace even if Khan does pull it out.

Either of them is getting stomped by Oz next round though


acompletely agreed, because if you notice the line-up, day 1 is khan pitted up with their worst match ups against the cj entus. day 2, however, is khan pitting their players to their advantage with their best match ups against the races


Dunno, I feel that if any of the first four from Khan can pull out a win, Jangbi and Stork will send it to a closer on the first day. Second day, Khan has favorable matchups. I realistically think it'll all come down to who can play better on Outsider, as I see it going there at least twice.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
July 21 2009 18:44 GMT
#83
lol day one is so funny tt zz pp vs zz tt pp

man outsider for all 3 aces damn... thats kinda lame.

i expect to see great vs effort or great vs Kwanro

closing matches will be lame i think TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
July 21 2009 18:45 GMT
#84
grandpa toss going up against 2 dragons :o

i was hoping for another much vs FBH match, go go pylon heart!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
July 21 2009 18:50 GMT
#85
On July 21 2009 13:04 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 12:47 Yiruru wrote:
Effort and Iris are also playing each other in GOM about two hours after Day 2's match. @@

They won't be practicing for GOM. Pro league playoffs is much, much more important than the GSL.



iris is gonna ask jaedong to help him practice secretly lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
vishrut
Profile Joined April 2009
United States567 Posts
July 21 2009 19:43 GMT
#86
Day 1 - 7/25

Iris <Andromeda> oDin
sKyHigh <Destination> great
EffOrt <Neo Harmony> firebathero
Kwanro <Neo Medusa> Miracle
Movie <Heartbreak Ridge> JangBi
Much <Shades of Twilight> Stork
Effort <Outsider> Stork


Day 2 - 7/26

sKyHigh <Shades of Twilight> Stork
Kwanro <Neo Medusa> Miracle
EffOrt <Heartbreak Ridge> great
Much <Destination> JangBi
Iris <Neo Harmony> firebathero
Movie <Andromeda> Juni

Super Acematch:
Effort <Outsider> Stork
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 21 2009 19:51 GMT
#87
(Z)EffOrt <Neo Harmony> (T)firebathero

Oh, I like that.
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JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
July 21 2009 23:20 GMT
#88
On July 21 2009 17:57 skronch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 16:24 scyper wrote:
On July 21 2009 16:11 JIJIyO wrote:
On July 21 2009 15:26 raga4ka wrote:
I think CJ will win this easier then against Hite . I wonder who Hwaseung will send in the 6 games other then Jaedong Backho Lomo and Hiya . Probably Killer and Young is my geuss .

Forgg and Anytime. Oops =]



i see what you did there on your 666th post

invoke the past awesomeness of forgg/anytime and channel them through the current three stooges that are lomo/hiya/backho?

god i hope so.

Woah that was totally unintentional O_O I didn't really mean anything by the Anytime and Forgg comment besides them being part of the awesome team that Oz WAS. Too bad that is no longer the case because Anytime was friggin awesome. Three stooges haha that's funny. Perhaps Scyper was just connecting the fact that 666=devil and Anytime=Sashin (God of death). Anyways, cool unintentional 666th post.

KT_Violet
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 22 2009 00:15 GMT
#89
Im so happy to be able to look at every match-up and honestly tell myself, CJ has a good chance.
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number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
July 22 2009 00:36 GMT
#90
Poor Much. Has to face Stork and Jangbi back to back.

Ouch.
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Scorn
Profile Joined May 2009
United States14 Posts
July 22 2009 02:42 GMT
#91
Some of these predictions from Khan fans are so weird... CJ's a heavy favorite on Day 1, either even or slightly ahead on Day 2, and a significant favorite in the super ace match.

In other words, Day 1 is almost a given for CJ, and so they have at least a 50% chance of winning it before it even goes to the super ace match. But if it does, Effort has a great chance against any Khan player (in their current state). I'd give him at least a 65% chance of winning.

Of course, upsets could happen. But isn't saying "wow this looks like an upset waiting to happen" just a propagandized version of saying "CJ really looks like it has the advantage"?
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
July 22 2009 03:56 GMT
#92
On July 21 2009 12:29 orcsmash wrote:
Savior vs FBH super ace!


This. hell yes this. this X 1,000,000,000.
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benutbutter
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States66 Posts
July 22 2009 04:02 GMT
#93
CJ's lineup has me thinking they'll probably win, but I'd love to see Stork win his games.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 22 2009 13:04 GMT
#94
Mh people who think CJ has this in the bag are foolish...
I'm pretty sure it will be quite even matches


still.. CJ HWAITING!
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 22 2009 13:28 GMT
#95
On July 21 2009 13:36 FranzF1 wrote:
LOL silly CJ fans... this is funny... its like STX all over again =D

Could you stop trolling the thread please? Put some content in your posts, I'm sure Khan fans either don't like you making them seem like idiots.
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Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
July 22 2009 16:23 GMT
#96
Iris will CRUSH oDin and fbh.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
July 22 2009 16:32 GMT
#97
On July 22 2009 09:36 number1gog wrote:
Poor Much. Has to face Stork and Jangbi back to back.

Ouch.


psh Much has the ability to win against people that are "much" better than him.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
July 22 2009 19:20 GMT
#98
Day 1 looks the most fun, with 4 TvZs
yay for less mirrors
SNARF HWAITING
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 22 2009 19:29 GMT
#99
On July 22 2009 22:28 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 13:36 FranzF1 wrote:
LOL silly CJ fans... this is funny... its like STX all over again =D

Could you stop trolling the thread please? Put some content in your posts, I'm sure Khan fans either don't like you making them seem like idiots.

I don't see the thread's title as "Why CJ Will Win the Proleague" or anything like that. Or do you think every thread should support CJ? Thats kinda arrogant.
Arf
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
July 24 2009 04:56 GMT
#100
STX fans thought they had won before the games were even played, and now CJ fans are doing the same thing. You deserve to be called on it.
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
July 24 2009 20:09 GMT
#101
Too bad the Playoff rules sucks.
The overall results were 7-5 STX...
Ace match should only be played in case of 7-7 tie.
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