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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 14 2009 02:11 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2009 16:08 TwoStep wrote:On July 13 2009 08:46 3clipse wrote:On July 12 2009 11:58 Terranfan wrote:
I'm sorry, flash is just on a flash slump (Which means a 10 game streak in one matchup and 50% which is not terrible in the last ten gams). Calm will NOT beat JD or bisu. JD's ZvZ is 80%. Bisu, vs Zerg is 65%. Calm's Overall is 54%, his Vs z is 53% and his Vs P is 56%. He is a B+ player. He is above average but he ain't anywhere near S-class. Also despite ZvP being his best machup it's also the one where he has played the least games. No way will calm win the MSL. No. Just No. hahahaha "I clearly know all I need to about a player's skill by their all time win record." If your understanding of the game is so limited that all you process is win-loss statistics, take a look at this: On July 09 2009 01:21 integral wrote:One thing I've been doing lately just out of my own curiosity is tracking how players have been performing over particular stretches of time during their career. It's pretty interesting to follow these trends and see how they coincide with the recent kespa and power ranks. Here are how notable players have been doing in 2009.  Bisu 70 - 27 (72.16%) - [213-119 (64.16%)]  Jaedong 75 - 29 (72.12%) - [241-109 (68.86%)] EffOrt 36 - 14 (72.00%) - [59-30 (66.29%)] Violet 17 - 7 (70.83%) - [23-23 (50.00%)] Calm 32 - 15 (68.09%) - [76-65 (53.90%)]  Flash 55 - 26 (67.90%) - [188-92 (67.14%)] fantasy 38 - 21 (64.41%) - [74-51 (59.20%)] Kwanro 25 - 14 (64.10%) - [53-45 (54.08%)] Leta 42 - 27 (60.87%) - [86-49 (63.70%)] July 20 - 13 (60.61%) - [248 - 181 (57.81%)] Hwasin 32 - 21 (60.38%) - [177-141 (55.66%)] sKyHigh 32 - 21 (60.38%) - [45-34 (56.96%)] Canata 18 - 12 (60.00%) - [75-66 (53.19%)] YellOw[ArnC] 34 - 23 (59.65%) - [128 - 111 (53.56%)] Light 36 - 25 (59.02%) - [123 - 106 (53.71%)] Kal 31 - 23 (57.41%) - [121-89 (57.62%)] Calm's been my favorite player for a long time. Do I honestly think he's a favorite to win the MSL? No. He's up against the best talents to ever play Starcraft. I do, however, think he has a legitimate shot. Especially if he doesn't have to face Jaedong. If Calm and Effort both win their Ro16 matches (likely), they'll be facing each other. GG Isn't the Ro8 arranged by Kespa ranking? If so, they won't be likely to face each other next round...
afaik yes
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On July 12 2009 02:00 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2009 01:44 mog87 wrote:On July 12 2009 01:40 Fontong wrote:
Haha no way. I'm not even a Jaedong fan, but even then I think that Calm would get flattened against JD. Not to mention Bisu, and likely fantasy as well.
He really doesn't have a good list of victories against players that are actually good. Sure he beat Flash, but Flash doesn't really deserve to be up there with Jaedong, Bisu, Effort, or even Fantasy(lol i that guy annoys me) at this point. Calm is going to just get smashed when he plays an actual S class player.
also calm vs darkelf on python nuff said
edit: plus all you did was make a list of gimmicky builds that he did I agree with your point about Calm getting smashed when he faces a top player, personally I think Forgg will take the next 2 games, but then you went all crazy and starting saying flash is worse than Effort and Fantasy...so umm dont post while high. But for me Calm is like luxury+yarnc+brains, but really I dont think hes strong enough to get through a bo5 vs strong competition. Flash is fresh off of a 3 game losing streak to Kal, Calm, and Kwanro. He is only 5-5 in his last ten games. He lost to fucking BACKHO. Fantasy on the other hand is fresh off a 10 game winning streak, including victories over Kal, Jangbi, Leta, guemchi(who is actually doing very well otherwise i wouldn't include him) and Backho(who flash couldnt beat lololo) Effort is fucking crazy recently, nuff said. Wake up and smell the roses. Flash isn't what he used to be. He is the next sea. Edit: but I think he will actually beat forgg, its sad since I'm a huge fan of oov 2.0, but he just never lived up to his series against JD.
NUFF SAID!!1!11!1!
No but really..normally when you say something retarded like "nuff said" you at least stop typing afterwards..because after all..nuff has already been said.
Calm is finally comming into his own but I don't think hes a real contender yet. Creative/agressive builds will only get you so far because they rely on your opponent making mistakes. As the tourniment progresses your opponent is less and less likely to do so.
Yes flash is losing right now. But you talk about like hes total shit now and he still has 50 % win. You realize 50% win is GOOD for most people? Gives you an idea of just how insane flash is. Hell if ForGG hit 50% win I'm sure ktf would be thrilled. And comparing flash to sea is basically retarded. Especially when you go and talk about how youre a huge forgg fan right afterwards. You're aware that flash is much much much better than forgg right?
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On July 14 2009 02:18 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2009 02:00 Fontong wrote:On July 12 2009 01:44 mog87 wrote:On July 12 2009 01:40 Fontong wrote:
Haha no way. I'm not even a Jaedong fan, but even then I think that Calm would get flattened against JD. Not to mention Bisu, and likely fantasy as well.
He really doesn't have a good list of victories against players that are actually good. Sure he beat Flash, but Flash doesn't really deserve to be up there with Jaedong, Bisu, Effort, or even Fantasy(lol i that guy annoys me) at this point. Calm is going to just get smashed when he plays an actual S class player.
also calm vs darkelf on python nuff said
edit: plus all you did was make a list of gimmicky builds that he did I agree with your point about Calm getting smashed when he faces a top player, personally I think Forgg will take the next 2 games, but then you went all crazy and starting saying flash is worse than Effort and Fantasy...so umm dont post while high. But for me Calm is like luxury+yarnc+brains, but really I dont think hes strong enough to get through a bo5 vs strong competition. Flash is fresh off of a 3 game losing streak to Kal, Calm, and Kwanro. He is only 5-5 in his last ten games. He lost to fucking BACKHO. Fantasy on the other hand is fresh off a 10 game winning streak, including victories over Kal, Jangbi, Leta, guemchi(who is actually doing very well otherwise i wouldn't include him) and Backho(who flash couldnt beat lololo) Effort is fucking crazy recently, nuff said. Wake up and smell the roses. Flash isn't what he used to be. He is the next sea. Edit: but I think he will actually beat forgg, its sad since I'm a huge fan of oov 2.0, but he just never lived up to his series against JD. NUFF SAID!!1!11!1! No but really..normally when you say something retarded like "nuff said" you at least stop typing afterwards..because after all..nuff has already been said. Calm is finally comming into his own but I don't think hes a real contender yet. Creative/agressive builds will only get you so far because they rely on your opponent making mistakes. As the tourniment progresses your opponent is less and less likely to do so. Yes flash is losing right now. But you talk about like hes total shit now and he still has 50 % win. You realize 50% win is GOOD for most people? Gives you an idea of just how insane flash is. Hell if ForGG hit 50% win I'm sure ktf would be thrilled. And comparing flash to sea is basically retarded. Especially when you go and talk about how youre a huge forgg fan right afterwards. You're aware that flash is much much much better than forgg right?
Notice how after saying nuff said about effort, I went on to a different tangent.
Way to call someone out in the most retarded way possible.
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United States3837 Posts
Don't mind possible, but not very likely
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
nice article 
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On July 14 2009 15:38 {88}iNcontroL wrote:nice article
inc who are you cheering for this MSL?
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I like him. Reminds me of yellow.
GO Calm!!
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On July 12 2009 01:39 Bob123 wrote:
I don't believe, but I hope : ). Nice play!
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calm's chances at reaching the final got a whole lot worse with such a hard bracket for him (effort and JD). I'm still hoping he makes it through but it would be SO much easier if he were on the other side :\
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I dont think Calm will be able to beat a Bisu or Jaedong but he has showed some strong games.
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Calm vs EffOrt gogogogo? That's what I would call an exciting Bo5 ZvZ.
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One thing is fact, STX Zergs are really strong latelly
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This year, Bisu or Jaedong as champion imo.
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Just want to give this thread a little bump since Calm is playing tonight
CMON JUST 2 MORE GAMES YOU CAN DO IT
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Ugh, why does this game have to be so late?
We'll see if I can stay awake for it. xD
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Really nice writeup and I hope Calm can make it to the msl finals =D. It'd be even better if he did win it too.
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joohyunee
Korea (South)1087 Posts
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Calm has really impressive play watch his match against FBH it was nice FBH was really lost in that game calm got into his head it was a buetifull game i became a fan that day
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On July 30 2009 14:54 Yuma wrote:
Calm has really impressive play watch his match against FBH it was nice FBH was really lost in that game calm got into his head it was a buetifull game i became a fan that day
But not a fan of puncuation yet, huh?
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Would be sweet if he makes it...
I actually don't see him being clearly inferiour to Bisu/Fantasy... But his ZvZ... I don't know...
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EPT
