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MONSTEr2
United States43 Posts
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
oh please | ||
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ryuu_
United States1266 Posts
needs more zerg | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
Zerg is looking pretty cool these days, with JD, Effort, Calm, Zero all playing solid, and guys like Yarnc, by.hero, the corpse formerly known as Luxury, and July all capable of taking a game from almost anyone. As for people talking Fantasy vs Flash - let's give it a rest for now. Fantasy is better than Flash in Starleagues (which is what really counts) at the moment. In fairness to Flash, he will continue to have the highest winning percentage out of all Terrans for a long, long time. Flash is younger right now than JD was when he even won his first Starleague, so to say he's done for is a bit overly dramatic, to say the least. | ||
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
Also, thanks for highlighting in your post where to start watching in YouTube. I hate going through the whole VOD to get to the "good part". | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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Creationism
China505 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On July 12 2009 05:04 mog87 wrote: Lol comparison for past few months I.E since proleague started back up. Fantasy TvP 11-2 (Losses to Pure and Bisu) Flash TvP 12-5 (Losses to Shuttle (in a bo3), Stork, Kal, Jangbi, and Backho) Fantasy TvZ (note he barely plays it) 6-5 (3x Loses to Big Dong, Hogil, and Calm Flash TvZ 8-6 ( other than the 4 recent loses (JD, Yarnc, Kwanro, Calm) the other 2 were vs effort on HBR and Oversky on Battle Royale lol) Flash TvT 11-2 (Currently on 10 game streak) Loses to Hiya and Skyhigh. Fantasy TvT 6-3 ( Loses to Flash, Lomo, and Skyhigh) In summary, Flash hasnt beaten a good protoss in quite awhile and has lost to every dragon hes played recently. Fantasy's TvZ record is definitely not strong enough to make a case over Flash, neither is his TvT. In short I could careless about what one arbitrarily thinks is a S-class player, but looking at the facts you cant make a case for Fantasy being better at Flash other than at TvP, which is by far Fantasy's best MU, and the matchup he plays the most, clearly there is a reason why SKT1 sends him out hoping to get a match vs Toss. So if Flash isnt S-Class then no terran is. Also about Jaedong being anti cheeseble, Light just "cheesed" him, and Skyhigh makes a fool out him with his cheeses,(yes I know JD beats him straight up), the last cheese that was thwarted by JD that I can recall was vs jjonga which I remember jjonga just not following up properly, though Id have to rewatch to be sure. But If you wanna talk anti cheese Zero, recently would be a better example stopping multiple cheeses from gogo and Skyhigh. Zero gets cheesed in ZvZ all the time. :p Hidden lings > Zero | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
On July 12 2009 06:28 SuperArc wrote: Zero gets cheesed in ZvZ all the time. :p Hidden lings > Zero I dunno if thats "chese" but he sure gets ling gayed alot, though its understandable who wants to Muta battle that kid? | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
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Tyxiquale
Australia424 Posts
On July 12 2009 04:35 Severedevil wrote: Flash is the current king of TvT. But he's only a cut above the other best TvT players... not enough that they can't catch up. Clearly S-class. In both non-mirrors, he loses almost every game he plays against players who're powerful in the matchup, and wins almost every game against players who aren't. This is (to me) a form of A-class play. I'd allow an S-class player one weak matchup, but not two. By his performance over the past few months, Flash is no longer S-class. That's bs man.. would you consider fantasy to be S-class? fantasy TvP is S-class, everyone agrees, no questions asked what about his TvZ? No. what about his TvT? maybe. So by your reasoning, 1 S-class matchup, and 2 A-class matchups means that the player is A-class, not S-class? | ||
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TwoStep
United States294 Posts
On July 12 2009 05:11 mog87 wrote: Calm can beat Effort probably, JD is the pillar of ZvZ, everyone else is fallible. Upper Lvl ZvZers like Effort,Zero, Calm can all beat each other, Its pretty hard to call out a favorite. Calm hasn't established himself as a upper-level ZvZ. ZerO is at Effort's level, but not all the time. | ||
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Nylan
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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ActualSteve
United States627 Posts
On July 12 2009 02:09 AzureEye wrote: I actually think Calm is a really strong player, on par with Effort possibly. He just hasn't his streak like Effort yet but I think he will. But Fantasy or JD will stop Calm from this MSL for sure. QFT | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
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TwoStep
United States294 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On July 12 2009 02:01 Foucault wrote: Any zerg that rules in ZvT and is good at ZvZ will easily become a monster in ZvP because the MU is easier than the other two. yarnc?? | ||
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