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On June 20 2009 11:02 StorZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2009 11:00 Camlito wrote: Losing just the next OSL/MSL doesn't mean he will just turn to shit and not ever be anything.
It's his first time this high in both tourneys, and he could likely burn out in 1 if not both. I still look forward to great things from him. eah what i'm saying is he could get this amazing record but if he NEVER gets an osl/msl/gom 1st he just won't be that amazing imo
I guess midas and sea aren't that amazing at all
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On June 20 2009 23:40 Magic84 wrote:TvZ  not the most balanced matchup and he didn't play these games all in a row. Not a real streak. Flash and JD had it more impressive when it comes to crazy streaks.
Jaedong is tied with Oov for games won in a row at 13, losing out to the infamous Gorush 16 streak win. Thinking of Effort's weird 3 overall losses streak, Oov still beat him at that, too.
It'd be stupid to say that anyone at any time was ever as dominant as Oov was in his height. Only Boxer might come close but hell, I don't know too much about Boxer's era so I could be a little off.
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Damn, his ELO just dropped like a rock and thanks to the wins from last night, flash took #1.
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On June 20 2009 23:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2009 23:40 Magic84 wrote:On June 20 2009 23:27 crucifix wrote:impressive as well  TvZ  not the most balanced matchup and he didn't play these games all in a row. Not a real streak. Flash and JD had it more impressive when it comes to crazy streaks. Jaedong is tied with Oov for games won in a row at 13, losing out to the infamous Gorush 16 streak win. Thinking of Effort's weird 3 overall losses streak, Oov still beat him at that, too. It'd be stupid to say that anyone at any time was ever as dominant as Oov was in his height. Only Boxer might come close but hell, I don't know too much about Boxer's era so I could be a little off.
boxer wasnt close. Savior was though.
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Useless speculation proceeds
+ Show Spoiler + From minor league herO[jOin] (Z) > IrOn (P) Mingu (P) > herO[jOin] (Z)
effort < Iron
Mingu >> all *_*
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we updating his record as this goes on?
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On June 21 2009 00:28 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2009 23:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:On June 20 2009 23:40 Magic84 wrote:On June 20 2009 23:27 crucifix wrote:impressive as well  TvZ  not the most balanced matchup and he didn't play these games all in a row. Not a real streak. Flash and JD had it more impressive when it comes to crazy streaks. Jaedong is tied with Oov for games won in a row at 13, losing out to the infamous Gorush 16 streak win. Thinking of Effort's weird 3 overall losses streak, Oov still beat him at that, too. It'd be stupid to say that anyone at any time was ever as dominant as Oov was in his height. Only Boxer might come close but hell, I don't know too much about Boxer's era so I could be a little off. boxer wasnt close. Savior was though.
boxer WAS close, during and prior to the starleague he lost to reach.
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Batisterio-PiB
Brazil219 Posts
Effort have to prove himself in SL! Oov's record is a lot better because he did playing SF, and finals! (So he played 2 BO5, one against the Bownja Nada!) Effort played proleague, preliminaries.....
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Batisterio-PiB
Brazil219 Posts
On June 20 2009 10:46 StorZerg wrote: he could go27 and 3 in his next set of games, if he loses the osl/msl hes still just another zerg It's impossible to do 27-3 and loses GOM/OSL/MSL! If he does 27-3 he will win all titles!
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On June 21 2009 01:48 Batisterio-PiB wrote: Effort have to prove himself in SL! Oov's record is a lot better because he did playing SF, and finals! (So he played 2 BO5, one against the Bownja Nada!) Effort played proleague, preliminaries.....
Can he?
He will be playing ZvZ against Jaedong in the Round 16 of Baccus 2009.
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On June 21 2009 01:26 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 00:28 fusionsdf wrote:On June 20 2009 23:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:On June 20 2009 23:40 Magic84 wrote:On June 20 2009 23:27 crucifix wrote:impressive as well  TvZ  not the most balanced matchup and he didn't play these games all in a row. Not a real streak. Flash and JD had it more impressive when it comes to crazy streaks. Jaedong is tied with Oov for games won in a row at 13, losing out to the infamous Gorush 16 streak win. Thinking of Effort's weird 3 overall losses streak, Oov still beat him at that, too. It'd be stupid to say that anyone at any time was ever as dominant as Oov was in his height. Only Boxer might come close but hell, I don't know too much about Boxer's era so I could be a little off. boxer wasnt close. Savior was though. boxer WAS close, during and prior to the starleague he lost to reach.
I wish I could find those old graphs. Someone (I think fomos or pgr) graphed the careers of all 4 bonjwa. Boxer/Nada tended to be more flat/consistent while Savior/oov had a huge spike far greater than any point on the boxer/nada lines.
If someone could find that topic it would be great. In the meantime, all concerns with ELO included, I still think this is a decent indicator until I can find better ones. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/#tblt-1013-1-5-DESC
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lol Effort lost 36 pts in one game. That should illustrate to everyone that there are no easy points in ELO.
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Also, since this thread is now partly about the top ELO players, YEAHHHHHHHHHH FLASH back at #1 !!
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It's so damn hard to maintain 2300+. Bisu/Jaedong/Flash only seem to be able to do it for a few short weeks at a time.
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Henceforth, IrOn vs EffOrt on June 20th, 2009 shall be referred to as the game that ended the streak.
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Effort is more impressive than oov's because players are better.
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