Ok, YouTube videos are up. We are still working on solutions for the videos on the site, we might do something similar to what you see this time with the youtube videos in the future.
i've said plenty of times not to direct link to the vods. take that shit down ASAP. if you want to orbit download it, feel free. but do not, i repeat, do not, download directly. if you are too lazy to figure out orbit or let it load, then simply wait for the youtube videos.
On April 18 2009 00:35 kartoffel wrote: when i try to watch a vod on scforall i feel like i travelled back in time to 1999 connected with 56k modem. could be a bit faster at least.
make that 28k are some guy painting the games before you on a sheet of paper.....
Unlike most posters in these threads I actually feel like video at SCForAll loads too fast for me - as soon as I click play, I see 1+ MB/s down. The entire video loads even before I get past 30 seconds in. Maybe SCForAll's problem is distributing bandwidth properly? I feel like I'm loading these videos unnecessarily fast .
When I am at my parents' house in Chicago I have the opposite problem (I have to leave SCForAll vids to buffer for an hour before I can watch).
Anyway, I really love these commentaries!! Artosis + Tasteless was a nice combo for Super vs. Lx, so I expect they'll be fun to watch here as well. Keep up the great work, Artosis and SCForAll.
Unlike most posters in these threads I actually feel like video at SCForAll loads too fast for me - as soon as I click play, I see 1+ MB/s down. The entire video loads even before I get past 30 seconds in. Maybe SCForAll's problem is distributing bandwidth properly? I feel like I'm loading these videos unnecessarily fast .
When I am at my parents' house in Chicago I have the opposite problem (I have to leave SCForAll vids to buffer for an hour before I can watch).
Anyway, I really love these commentaries!! Artosis + Tasteless was a nice combo for Super vs. Lx, so I expect they'll be fun to watch here as well. Keep up the great work, Artosis and SCForAll.
Where you located presently? I have this problem on all my pc's. Im located in north texas. If I want to see a clip of something at scforall I need to leave it loading. Even 80% of the time it d/l's half the clip and then stops.
Hi Artosis, so the video stopped and I gotta wait for another hour for it to load, but just before it stopped I got to the story of you beating Bisu hahahahah
Unlike most posters in these threads I actually feel like video at SCForAll loads too fast for me - as soon as I click play, I see 1+ MB/s down. The entire video loads even before I get past 30 seconds in. Maybe SCForAll's problem is distributing bandwidth properly? I feel like I'm loading these videos unnecessarily fast .
When I am at my parents' house in Chicago I have the opposite problem (I have to leave SCForAll vids to buffer for an hour before I can watch).
Anyway, I really love these commentaries!! Artosis + Tasteless was a nice combo for Super vs. Lx, so I expect they'll be fun to watch here as well. Keep up the great work, Artosis and SCForAll.
Where you located presently? I have this problem on all my pc's. Im located in north texas. If I want to see a clip of something at scforall I need to leave it loading. Even 80% of the time it d/l's half the clip and then stops.
I'm in the Bay Area. My internet connection here is much faster than it is at my parents' place in Chicago, but I don't think that is an issue since the problem is SCForAll not sending me enough data, as opposed to me not being able to receive it fast enough (my connection in both places is well fast enough to watch streaming video).
Most VOD's on ScForall.com load pretty quickly for me, however these games are definately an exception. It is taking about 1 hour to load a 20 minute game.
"bulldog[tc] using bulldog build". I can't believe people forget the origin of the build when every single goon attack is called a bulldog these days
I mean I'm sure someone has built 3 gates before expo and used mass goons with zealot shuttle attacks, but the build was named after the korean player Bulldog[tC] it can't really be denied he was the one who popularized it/made it his signature build.
if videos loads very slow why not to download them? for me it load very long but when im downloading these vidoes from scforall I have max speed download obrit downloader then Tools --> grab++ this program lets you find direct link to video. what you have to do is open page with video and press play then you got link press download and orbit downloader will download your video in seconds. all videos are .flv so make shure you have codec to play them pls dont ban me artosis I dont post direct links here .
I was able to watch some of the games. Idra is really annoying with all his stupid comments. I don't understand why he always has to act so childish is every foreign event he goes to but in korea he gg's after loses and isn't bm.
On April 18 2009 03:31 kidd wrote: I was able to watch some of the games. Idra is really annoying with all his stupid comments. I don't understand why he always has to act so childish is every foreign event he goes to but in korea he gg's after loses and isn't bm.
Cause it was an online event. If he acts like that in offline event, he'll be cooked. And if he does that in Korea, he'll be sent back to his mommy.
Artosis: how much money would it take to get the scforall site to not take all day to stream a video? I'm considering donation assuming it will actually get it fixed.
To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.
So this was an online game, but were his teammates watching over his shoulder? Did any of them understand what he was saying?
On April 18 2009 04:15 Sadistx wrote: To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.
On April 18 2009 04:15 Sadistx wrote: To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.
Anyone who knows Idra knows that he is generally rude in online event he is invited to. I doubt he actually is a nice guy trying to throw off his oppenent with well placed "bm" comments.
On April 18 2009 04:15 Sadistx wrote: To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.
so game 7 in a series of 7 he is down 4-2 and bms.. it's because he defintly has a chance of getting back in the game and beating F91?
On April 18 2009 04:15 Sadistx wrote: To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.
Call it strategy, I call it being an idiot.
IdrA is bm and arrogant not because he wants to upset his opponent, but because he is too immature and frustrated to refrain being rude and lack courtesy to a guy who spend a fourth of his practice time and is still able to win almost half of the games.
Turn the Mouse scrolling and Keyboard scrolling all the way down please. I watch first game and the observer movement is not smooth at all. Obviously the keyboard scroll was very high. Please remember this next time because the fast scrolling can give me a headache.
other than that awesome Matchup Can't wait to find out who win!
On April 18 2009 03:31 kidd wrote: I was able to watch some of the games. Idra is really annoying with all his stupid comments. I don't understand why he always has to act so childish is every foreign event he goes to but in korea he gg's after loses and isn't bm.
Well, the simple answer is because if he BMed in Korean events he'd be disqualified...lol
Game 2 was hilarious, I was like how the hell can this be so short...oh
On April 18 2009 04:49 toopham wrote: OK This is a suggestion for future fasting.
Turn the Mouse scrolling and Keyboard scrolling all the way down please. I watch first game and the observer movement is not smooth at all. Obviously the keyboard scroll was very high. Please remember this next time because the fast scrolling can give me a headache.
other than that awesome Matchup Can't wait to find out who win!
As they said in the broadcast they didn't control the screen
On April 18 2009 04:49 toopham wrote: OK This is a suggestion for future fasting.
Turn the Mouse scrolling and Keyboard scrolling all the way down please. I watch first game and the observer movement is not smooth at all. Obviously the keyboard scroll was very high. Please remember this next time because the fast scrolling can give me a headache.
other than that awesome Matchup Can't wait to find out who win!
As they said in the broadcast they didn't control the screen
They should tell whoever the observer is to turn it down then.
i honestly never have problems with scforall videos it loads slower than youtube, but it still loads pretty fast also to people who are getting like 10 seconds of video before they have to rebuffer right click on the screen->settings->folder tab->move the slider to the right all the way
just wanted to say that the commentary was really good. i know tasteless is a little constrained on the gomtv casts because of the target audience, so i like these informal ones a little more. really funny and insightful from both artosis and tasteless, great job guys
Uhh I can get the intro, then you guys are like "Let's just get right down to it" "Let's do this" AND IM LIKE YEAH LETS GET TO IT Then my screen goes black and I watch that again... Do this 3 times until morale fails and I make this post
On April 18 2009 06:07 floor exercise wrote: Make sure the video is playing first
I did, but it still won't work. I tried refreshing and whatnot, but it won't work. Seriously, how hard can it be to find a way to make this accessible to people outside Korea/USA?
open the window, let it load. turn the volume all the way down. open another window, do something else, or go make a sandwich. after about 15 mintues, come back, put the slider back on the beginning and you should be able to watch it all. just sitting there waiting for it to load, ya, is torture.
On April 18 2009 07:13 pR0gR4m3R wrote: Can anyone explain me whats going on in Idra´s mind for game2???
well he knew he wouldnt win, he was behind economically due to failed proxy, he was gassed so wouldnt have tanks or a factory till real late, and on a map where everyone 10-15 gates with no ramp. pretty much instalose. wouldnt even have vultures to mine. playing that out would be a waste of time
I really hate to add another complaint to this thread, but the commentary is out of sync with the video for these games (same went for Super vs. Lx) and it's kind of a problem at tense moments (such as the reaver drops in game 1).
After waiting for more than 1h for the first game to be loaded, I finally give up. I'd hang around on scforall quite a lot if it weren't for these buffering issues. TL's small VOD thread is much better..
On April 18 2009 07:51 frs. wrote: For someone from the States your reading comprehension isnt that great
haha good call, I actually read Yaqoob's post first and it threw me off. My bad.
PS lol, you used one of your 7 posts to point out my flub? You registered last summer...looks like you've just wasted your one post for the next few months, on me!
well..maybe im retarded but im sure that says is there anyone THAT IDRA actually respects as a sc player (didnt add that but then again i suck at english)
I thought bad mannered mistrzzz was fun to watch, he actually made jokes and stuff and was just generally being childish which was fun to watch for a change. Idra actually appears to get mad in game which makes it really fucking lame.
Unlike most posters in these threads I actually feel like video at SCForAll loads too fast for me - as soon as I click play, I see 1+ MB/s down. The entire video loads even before I get past 30 seconds in.
On April 18 2009 07:54 StalinRusH wrote: well..maybe im retarded but im sure that says is there anyone THAT IDRA actually respects as a sc player (didnt add that but then again i suck at english)
On April 18 2009 08:53 benjammin wrote: what is with the anti-direct linking? bandwidth is bandwidth, who cares if you download it directly or wait for it to load on the scforall page
I really wanted to watch these games and I tried letting it load and waiting but it wasn't working so I just installed 'Orbit' and used it to download the videos.
..... I CANNOT stand SCforall's vod issues .... theyve been telling us for MONTHS they are working on it yet it's still utter trash ... Seriously .... I have to wait longer for loading than the actual length of the video.
Playing very good starcraft and sitting 24/7 with other guys that play even better starcraft does not make you a better *human*. He's an idiot, he will most probably ever be an idiot.
Like him or not. I like him and he hopefully likes himself.
STFU i want to see good starcraft not good manners.
"bulldog[tc] using bulldog build". I can't believe people forget the origin of the build when every single goon attack is called a bulldog these days
I mean I'm sure someone has built 3 gates before expo and used mass goons with zealot shuttle attacks, but the build was named after the korean player Bulldog[tC] it can't really be denied he was the one who popularized it/made it his signature build.
i am also annoyed how everyone thinks the bulldog is the 'style' of attack. pride stole the bulldog style of gaming from bulldog himself lol
On April 18 2009 08:53 benjammin wrote: what is with the anti-direct linking? bandwidth is bandwidth, who cares if you download it directly or wait for it to load on the scforall page
scforall doesnt get hits if you direct link download it
Well, I just watched this entire series and I thought it was pretty entertaining. Highlights were IdrA's classic bm and Artosis's great story about beating Bisu (at the beginning of game 3).
On April 18 2009 09:11 Velr wrote: STFU i want to see good starcraft not good manners.
Maybe you meant you wanted to see game by the only foreigner in Korea at the moment? Yea sure, go watch Idra.
If you want to see good sc games ? Check out msl, mst, osl, gomtv, proleagues.... tons of leagues with players who are extremely better than the dumb kid Idra.
I thought game 2 was like an error or something because it kept instantly loading and saying only 3 minutes, so i kept refreshing until i went onto the next vod and you two said how short the last game was. Then I went back and watched it. Wow
On April 18 2009 08:29 jimminy_kriket wrote: I thought bad mannered mistrzzz was fun to watch, he actually made jokes and stuff and was just generally being childish which was fun to watch for a change. Idra actually appears to get mad in game which makes it really fucking lame.
Agreed, Mistrzzz BM was calculated BM, kind of like FBH's BM. Idra's BM is legit anger, and he needs to grow up and out of it.
On April 18 2009 08:29 jimminy_kriket wrote: I thought bad mannered mistrzzz was fun to watch, he actually made jokes and stuff and was just generally being childish which was fun to watch for a change. Idra actually appears to get mad in game which makes it really fucking lame.
Agreed, Mistrzzz BM was calculated BM, kind of like FBH's BM. Idra's BM is legit anger, and he needs to grow up and out of it.
How is it legit anger? Please.
though MistrZZZ has the best bm of all i mean being up 2-0 on JF in a bo5 and losing it 3-2 by trying to win with his offraces takes class
Start grab++, start all the videos in your browser, wait 20 seconds. Diretly download the videos with Orbit Download. SCForall gets the hits on the videos, I get the videos faster. All is good.
<3 Artosis commentarys. Want moar! Too bad he stopped doing Proleague/MSL :\
I'm wondering what song its the one that comes out in the opening video, could someone help me on this, maybe its their own synthesized song, dunno, would appreciate any help.
Not sure that cocky attutiude is good, makes him seem like a bad sportsmanship, he needs to realize its more of a profession than a pastime to play video games competitively.
On April 18 2009 13:57 thoraxe wrote: I'm wondering what song its the one that comes out in the opening video, could someone help me on this, maybe its their own synthesized song, dunno, would appreciate any help.
Not sure that cocky attutiude is good, makes him seem like a bad sportsmanship, he needs to realize its more of a profession than a pastime to play video games competitively.
heh, I thought the same thing.
From the matrix movie soundtrack. Lobby scene I think.
Nah... on second thought probably the car chase scene from the 2nd one
Man this series was hilarious. Idra's BM was pretty funny and then Artosis and Tastless's bashing Idra cause his BM was shitty and that their BM was much better was just icing on the cake. XD
On April 18 2009 13:57 thoraxe wrote: I'm wondering what song its the one that comes out in the opening video, could someone help me on this, maybe its their own synthesized song, dunno, would appreciate any help.
Not sure that cocky attutiude is good, makes him seem like a bad sportsmanship, he needs to realize its more of a profession than a pastime to play video games competitively.
heh, I thought the same thing.
From the matrix movie soundtrack. Lobby scene I think.
Nah... on second thought probably the car chase scene from the 2nd one
I don't get why we are forced to watch the videos on that shitty website that won't load properly. I guess I won't see the games. Learn to have a reliable website to load the video on instead of censoring people trying to give alternatives.
planning on doing some bbs/8 rax build because he thought fenix would do a 12 nexus build because toss either go 10/15 or 12 nexus on the map but since his scv got scouted so early he had to change his plan.
As a mac user who has no way of watching these VODs smoothly, I'll post a little tutorial on how to grab them without using a 3rd party tool such as Orbit..etc which are not available on macs. However the method detailed works for windows / linux too.
First go to the SCForallPage where the video is hosted ( so they get their page hit ): for example
the content of scforall is very good, but the problem is, that most of the people here are not able to really enjoy it. i know that i'm the 500th here complaining about this, but the page is so ridiculously slow that i simply can't watch anything hosted there. i appreciate your work and all the efforts you do there to provide a good starcraft coverage. you guys rule, hands down. but the way it is brought (or not) to the community just sucks. that is really sad because the site and all you guys working behind it have so much potential. just get that handeled and you'll kick ass big time.
CAN PEOPLE STOP WHINING? It's FREE it's GOOD and you all is whining about it. Grow some manners seriously. If you can't enjoy it right away then learn to wait for it. You are just destroying for everyone else that appreciate their work and effort. So please just close your jabbers please.
On April 18 2009 20:20 Lobbo wrote: CAN PEOPLE STOP WHINING? It's FREE it's GOOD and you all is whining about it. Grow some manners seriously. If you can't enjoy it right away then learn to wait for it. You are just destroying for everyone else that appreciate their work and effort. So please just close your jabbers please.
I feel you man. The only flaw Artosis made was telling everyone before the Youtube links were up! If he'd waited a week no-one would be complaining, yet here is he giving you a choice to view it earlier and people are going nuts.
On April 18 2009 20:20 Lobbo wrote: CAN PEOPLE STOP WHINING? It's FREE it's GOOD and you all is whining about it. Grow some manners seriously. If you can't enjoy it right away then learn to wait for it. You are just destroying for everyone else that appreciate their work and effort. So please just close your jabbers please.
You see, complaining about a service (even if it's for free) is feedback and feedback is always positive to help improve it. If no one complained because "they had manners" the service providers wouldn't know about the problems that many users suffer from and so nothing would be done to fix them We are not insulting them, just pointing out some flaws that should be fixed for the benefit of all.
On April 18 2009 20:45 ktp wrote: Um, I just opened the 4 games....went out for some food, and when I got back it was all loaded. Just have some patience yea?
Great series, and Idra's bm makes it a lot of fun to watch, icing on the cake!
but you see, some people do that, they open and let it load, the full video loads, and you start watching, then just randomly at 1 point it stops playing, even though its fully loaded, so patience wont help much. And about it being free, a lot of good that does me if I CANT WATCH IT. A lot of these comments that might seem rude are coming from the fact that people really love these videos and wanna watch them but cant, I know i get pissed off when i see new vids up at sc4all and i know they have great content but i cant watch them.
I just want the youtube uploads to come fast, i love you guys <3 but your server is killing me.
I don't have any insight to the relationship between Artosis and his website hosts, but being that he is living in Korea and producing content like this I have to assume some of the cost of that is covered by this company. As such he is expected to give them traffic to their site in order to justify keeping him there.
So trying to watch the games on their site helps Artosis in the end.
Also, installing orbit and using that not only helps you with this site, but it helps you download all flv files like youtube, etc. So it's a nice program
when will be this uploaded to youtube? i really tried with scforall, the VODs crashes after a couple minutes, so the only VOD i could watch was the Medusa game
"bulldog[tc] using bulldog build". I can't believe people forget the origin of the build when every single goon attack is called a bulldog these days
I mean I'm sure someone has built 3 gates before expo and used mass goons with zealot shuttle attacks, but the build was named after the korean player Bulldog[tC] it can't really be denied he was the one who popularized it/made it his signature build.
game 2: idra tries to do some cheese on Medusa, probe sees scv, and then probe steals the gas. idra ggs 2 minutes into the game game 3: after 2 failed pushes, idra's way behind and fenix is on 5 bases and pushing idra back into his base. says "youre so bad" aftering losing the majority of his army game 4: idra spots fenix's proxy gate, kills it before zealot comes out, says, "youre gosu", idra proceeds to do 6 fact push, after fenix's army dies to tank fire and mines, idra offensive ggs
Game 4: fenix does a one gate proxi outside of Idra's nat, Idra figures that out because the probe was in his base too early, so he moves out 6 or 7 scv's to kill the gate. He kills the gate like 0.5 secs before the zealot was finished..... comment from idra: "you're so gosu"
Then in the end of that idra said: "gg" after a failed attack of fenix......
im so sorry for fenix, i think he is a really ambitious and motivated player who is always nice and gm. he really deserved to win. Why isn't there a rule like in kespa ("gg" = admit of defeat = loss)
"bulldog[tc] using bulldog build". I can't believe people forget the origin of the build when every single goon attack is called a bulldog these days
I mean I'm sure someone has built 3 gates before expo and used mass goons with zealot shuttle attacks, but the build was named after the korean player Bulldog[tC] it can't really be denied he was the one who popularized it/made it his signature build.
dude !!! you linked the wrong rep man its 565 !!!!
I just watched it and bulldog is a fucking terran, while protoss goes fast dt. i was like "WTFWTFWTF WHERE IS THE FUCKING BULLDOG HERE? this floor dude in the forums is a total dumbass." seriously....i was really angry at you lol
On April 19 2009 02:52 scwizard wrote: I'll upload if no one else will.
It shouldn't take too long, I have good upload speed here.
10 minutes until my download of the .flvs is completed.
You shouldn't do this - SCForAll owns the videos, and if they want to put them up on YouTube they will. Artosis has already asked people not to direct link to the .flvs, downloading them and hosting them at YouTube is worse than that in terms of SCForAll's pageviews.
On April 19 2009 02:52 scwizard wrote: I'll upload if no one else will.
It shouldn't take too long, I have good upload speed here.
10 minutes until my download of the .flvs is completed.
You shouldn't do this - SCForAll owns the videos, and if they want to put them up on YouTube they will. Artosis has already asked people not to direct link to the .flvs, downloading them and hosting them at YouTube is worse than that in terms of SCForAll's pageviews.
Bullshit. Making entertaining videos readily available will spur interest in SCForAll.
On April 19 2009 02:52 scwizard wrote: I'll upload if no one else will.
It shouldn't take too long, I have good upload speed here.
10 minutes until my download of the .flvs is completed.
You shouldn't do this - SCForAll owns the videos, and if they want to put them up on YouTube they will. Artosis has already asked people not to direct link to the .flvs, downloading them and hosting them at YouTube is worse than that in terms of SCForAll's pageviews.
Bullshit. Making entertaining videos readily available will spur interest in SCForAll.
...or it will just drive people to your YouTube page instead of SCForAll...
Look, I understand you are trying to help people watch these games, but Artosis specifically asked us not to direct link the .flvs in this topic. I don't see how linking YouTube-hosted .flvs is any better. Because Artosis made these videos and is such a great contributor here, you should respect his wishes.
I was kind of disappointed. This was definitely not on the "you skilless newbie" level. On the other hand, Artosis and Tasteless were fun to listen to. They're like a gossip column, talking about people and snickering at them.
The other thing is that the SCForAll videos (from Afreeca) seem to download faster and slower depending on time on day. I started to DL these around midnight Korea time (TL time) and it took 1.5 hrs for the first vid. Around 3am or so, the download was really fast, over 100KB/s. I guess the issue seems to be the bandwidth available from Afreeca. There's more for us when the Koreans aren't using it. So there you go, visit SCForAll when the koreans are asleep (probably 0200 TL time to 1000).
On April 19 2009 04:50 Lachrymose wrote: enjoy your ban scwizard.
mod wanna-be?
anyway, always nice to see some bm by Idra, but commentatry quality>game quality in these particular series.Dunno if Nick and Artosis were too good or games just sucked thanks once again for doing this~~
On April 19 2009 04:50 Lachrymose wrote: enjoy your ban scwizard.
mod wanna-be?
anyway, always nice to see some bm by Idra, but commentatry quality>game quality in these particular series.Dunno if Nick and Artosis were too good or games just sucked thanks once again for doing this~~
hardly. the last person to reupload the games had the links stripped out of his post and was told if he re-linked them he would be banned. scwizard has chosen to upload them despite several people telling him not to, i think its pretty obvious what is coming next.
scwizard; they are not looking to "spur interest", they are looking for numbers on hit-counters, both on scforall and youtube when they upload them. you uploading them somewhere else lowers their hits.
Yeah, I'd interpret it as a bandwidth stealing issue. If everyone is ddling the videos, then they're bandwidth is going to spike, but they're not going to make anything off that.
As I said, if Artosis tells me to take down the videos I will.
@Lachrymose: back seat moderating is frowned upon. Let FrozenArbiter do the talking for the mods.
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote: God i fucking love idra
"youre gosu"
#1 Idra fan
Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.
IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote: God i fucking love idra
"youre gosu"
#1 Idra fan
Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.
IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.
you can't tell me it's not fun to watch him play
rarely do you have such insight into a player's personality. even if it is ugly, i'm somewhat happy to see someone have no qualms about being a complete jackass. i hope he keeps playing for a long time.
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote: God i fucking love idra
"youre gosu"
#1 Idra fan
Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.
IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote: God i fucking love idra
"youre gosu"
#1 Idra fan
Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.
IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.
fully agreed
Jealous imo.
He's like the most fun foreigner to watch i mean seriously who else tells someone to GG when they've lost. i mean really
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote: God i fucking love idra
"youre gosu"
#1 Idra fan
Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.
IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.
What the fuck is wrong with you? He is out there entertaining the SC community and you wanna bitch about minor flaws in his personality?
You're comments are either WAY too harsh or you're trolling. Both of which should get you banned.
Games were fun, Idra BM adds a good amount of spice to the series. He's like the Ty Cobb of SC. Some people find it funny, some don't. I just like seeing some personality, it reminds me that I'm not watching robots play.
Now all we need is some super-manner player. Someone who after killing a proxy gate would say "Don't feel bad guy! You're still in this! :D" instead of "you're so gosu."
And scwizard... That's seriously not cool. It's been said, but those vids are property of SCforAll and Artosis has asked to not have them direct linked. It's nice that you're trying to make the vids available to people, but you know he is going to ask you to take them down, so why do it? The reason they aren't immediately put up on YouTube is so SCforAll can get some hits and you're just completely undermining what Artosis is doing.
If anyone has trouble watching the vids, for god's sake, just download Orbit and DL the damn things already. SCforAll gets the hits, you get the videos in a couple minutes, everybody wins.
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote: God i fucking love idra
"youre gosu"
#1 Idra fan
Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.
IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.
Idra is a good player who worked hard to get as good as he did. So ya he deserves sucess. He doesn't deserve to be well liked due to his behavior.. and he isn't He could probably care less.
All is in the balance...no need for such hate People are assholes because they don't care what anyone thinks of them, and nobody cares about assholes for the same reason.
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote: God i fucking love idra
"youre gosu"
#1 Idra fan
Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.
IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.
fully agreed
Depends on your definition of success. If he enjoys the current life in Korea and enjoys being a low tier progamers, that's good for him. However, that looks like a failure to me.
rarely do you have such insight into a player's personality. even if it is ugly, i'm somewhat happy to see someone have no qualms about being a complete jackass. i hope he keeps playing for a long time.
This. ^^
I just watched that game again just for the bm. Entertainment++.
On April 19 2009 08:44 Mooncat wrote: What the fuck is wrong with you Idra? You even start trashtalking on the rare occasion that you're winning a game!?
Why does everyone find something wrong with trash talking. It makes for interesting reactions like this I guess. But his trash talking is enjoyable it's not like he's all 'eff ur mother' or something.
He didn't direct link it. He just uploaded it on Youtube. Not sure if that's ok with Artosis but I appreciate it... If that's not ok he should take them down though.
pfff. I don't mind a bit of bm, but I can't stand the 'gg' before your opponent does it. That's just petty and small. GL to IdrA anyways, I still want the only non-Korean pro to make it.
if you say idra deserves respect for being a good player, then surely these other foreigner players deserve a bit too. you may call it fun and games but at the end of the day its just rude behaviour
tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.
On April 19 2009 12:46 Red9 wrote: wow the videos are horrible on this website now with constant buffering. i used to be able to watch them no problem.
The videos are uploaded to youtube:
On April 19 2009 03:51 scwizard wrote: *links removed by owners request* - FrozenArbiter
I just wanted to say AWSOME job to artosis and tasteless thats some of the best commentating i've ever heard, very informative and professional. Although i don't watch a lot of vods they kept me interested
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote: "lolololol"
Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.
Yeah they do, have you never seen anyone from europe insult idra? Use YOUR brain, turd.
Is this a difficult concept for you? Honestly? Reread what I said. Stop replying to shit I write just because you hold some retarded grudge from whenever the fuck I said something to you that made you angry and instigated your current stalking of my posts.
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote: "lolololol"
Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.
Um, stop insulting people as soon as you get unbanned. I'm pretty sure they think it, hate clouds people's judgements.
Well, I'm pretty sure they don't think it. Therein lies the difficulty of the situation, hmm? There's no way to say what they truly think nor to differentiate it from what is written. However, suffice it to say that it would be extremely unlikely that anyone bashing Idra as "bad" thinks he actually is bad given that he has beaten everyone in the foreign scene and is capable of beating everyone despite his losses recently. Were they to truly think he was bad, they'd have to admit all the people they are defending are bad too. I suppose it's possible they might, but then it would be an argument of proportion and would just be stupid, since everyone but the absolute top progamers would be "bad." Thus, I'd say my conclusion that while people may say he is bad but do not honestly think it, yet say it because they dislike him, is probably more correct than yours. It's stupid and quite unlikely that they truly think he is bad, only that he is a dickhead, which he is.
watch out it looks like noobsofwrath is going for another all nighter, he took 10 shots of coffee and pulled his bw blackbook out to take note and respond to everything
On April 19 2009 08:44 Mooncat wrote: What the fuck is wrong with you Idra? You even start trashtalking on the rare occasion that you're winning a game!?
yeah idra must very rarely win games, thats why hes a progamer n stuff
On April 19 2009 14:11 iamtt1 wrote: watch out it looks like noobsofwrath is going for another all nighter, he took 10 shots of coffee and pulled his bw blackbook out to take note and respond to everything
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote: "lolololol"
Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.
Yeah they do, have you never seen anyone from europe insult idra? Use YOUR brain, turd.
Is this a difficult concept for you? Honestly? Reread what I said. Stop replying to shit I write just because you hold some retarded grudge from whenever the fuck I said something to you that made you angry and instigated your current stalking of my posts.
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote: "lolololol"
Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.
Um, stop insulting people as soon as you get unbanned. I'm pretty sure they think it, hate clouds people's judgements.
Well, I'm pretty sure they don't think it. Therein lies the difficulty of the situation, hmm? There's no way to say what they truly think nor to differentiate it from what is written. However, suffice it to say that it would be extremely unlikely that anyone bashing Idra as "bad" thinks he actually is bad given that he has beaten everyone in the foreign scene and is capable of beating everyone despite his losses recently. Were they to truly think he was bad, they'd have to admit all the people they are defending are bad too. I suppose it's possible they might, but then it would be an argument of proportion and would just be stupid, since everyone but the absolute top progamers would be "bad." Thus, I'd say my conclusion that while people may say he is bad but do not honestly think it, yet say it because they dislike him, is probably more correct than yours. It's stupid and quite unlikely that they truly think he is bad, only that he is a dickhead, which he is.
How can people truly think IdrA is bad then? If they always say that he is bad, then are they going to respect IdrA in their minds, and acknowledge that he is good mentally? I don't think so, they'll probably think that he is bad in their heads as well. The other option is too painful. Also: "There's no way to say what they truly think nor to differentiate it from what is written." If you feel that way, this is a pointless debate.
Idra seriously thinks he's like king of the nerds.
"Heh. Look at this pleb from South America, non-korean arbiter control is so inferior to my losing round of 128 B team korean nerd-raging. *strokes butt-chin and types whiney insult*"
On April 19 2009 16:58 systranerror wrote: Idra seriously thinks he's like king of the nerds.
"Heh. Look at this pleb from South America, non-korean arbiter control is so inferior to my losing round of 128 B team korean nerd-raging. *strokes butt-chin and types whiney insult*"
Idra's is good but with his attitude and BM i don't see him going anywhere. Keeping your cool when your frustrated is key part of a lot of sports. But then again thats what you expect from an American. They think their the shit and their not.
On April 19 2009 16:58 systranerror wrote: Idra seriously thinks he's like king of the nerds.
"Heh. Look at this pleb from South America, non-korean arbiter control is so inferior to my losing round of 128 B team korean nerd-raging. *strokes butt-chin and types whiney insult*"
Idra is a very good player, but after so many BM, I completely lost all my respect for him. Game 1 was pretty good. Artosis + Tasteless = Win. Keep it up guys.
On April 20 2009 02:55 uSiN wrote: Idra's is good but with his attitude and BM i don't see him going anywhere. Keeping your cool when your frustrated is key part of a lot of sports. But then again thats what you expect from an American. They think their the shit and their not.
Sweet Bday Icon. xD
what does ANYTHING have to do with Idra's nationality?
On April 20 2009 06:33 MasterReY wrote: i don't see why he isn't punish for that. ie. in soccer, if you insult the referee or another player then you get a punsihment too.
QFT
Btw.: I'd have loved to see how this series had played out without Idra's auto-win from the winners' bracket... Basically it was 2-2 after game 4.
On April 20 2009 02:55 uSiN wrote: Idra's is good but with his attitude and BM i don't see him going anywhere. Keeping your cool when your frustrated is key part of a lot of sports. But then again thats what you expect from an American. They think their the shit and their not.
Sweet Bday Icon. xD
sup guys, I'm a bigot and I don't like Idra.
Enough sarcasm. I think it would work better if you were straight like that though.
On April 19 2009 11:51 arb wrote: tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.
But still its hilarious "rofl, youre so bad"
aha you have no idea what he did to F91. You'd feel like punching him if you've seen what he did but at the very end of the day you'd think he's just a kid so there is no need to waste your time.
On April 19 2009 11:51 arb wrote: tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.
But still its hilarious "rofl, youre so bad"
aha you have no idea what he did to F91. You'd feel like punching him if you've seen what he did but at the very end of the day you'd think he's just a kid so there is no need to waste your time.
On April 20 2009 02:55 uSiN wrote: Idra's is good but with his attitude and BM i don't see him going anywhere. Keeping your cool when your frustrated is key part of a lot of sports. But then again thats what you expect from an American. They think their the shit and their not.
On April 19 2009 11:51 arb wrote: tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.
But still its hilarious "rofl, youre so bad"
aha you have no idea what he did to F91. You'd feel like punching him if you've seen what he did but at the very end of the day you'd think he's just a kid so there is no need to waste your time.
Beware typing "F91" in a thread here, you'll draw a post from Ash almost immediately.
On April 19 2009 11:51 arb wrote: tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.
But still its hilarious "rofl, youre so bad"
aha you have no idea what he did to F91. You'd feel like punching him if you've seen what he did but at the very end of the day you'd think he's just a kid so there is no need to waste your time.
Beware typing "F91" in a thread here, you'll draw a post from Ash almost immediately.
haha that's not true! I'm usually a lurker around.
Ok, YouTube videos are up. We are still working on solutions for the videos on the site, we might do something similar to what you see this time with the youtube videos in the future.
On April 18 2009 00:33 Artosis wrote: i've said plenty of times not to direct link to the vods. take that shit down ASAP. if you want to orbit download it, feel free. but do not, i repeat, do not, download directly. if you are too lazy to figure out orbit or let it load, then simply wait for the youtube videos.
On April 20 2009 15:47 ButtFace wrote: Lol Idra's such a dickkkk, kudos to Fenix for not retorting and keeping his cool.
Yes, Fenix acted rly adult...ly (?) I would have loaded up my shuttle with probes and built pylons all over the map to take time to insult this little idra bitch :D Just think about it: Idra sits in the CJ House, gets to train all day long with the best SC players there are, he is already in korea while it's a once-in-a-lifetime chance for Fenix to go there to participate in a professional tournament. That's BM taken to the peak. God Idra grow up, seriously.
Yea well, it was at least one step better than you were able to manage.
On April 22 2009 19:03 IdrA wrote: how on earth do people assume fenix was polite have you never talked to him before? he was just smart enough not to say anything in the game
On April 22 2009 19:03 IdrA wrote: how on earth do people assume fenix was polite have you never talked to him before? he was just smart enough not to say anything in the game
I see your point. The thing is: I didn't say much about Fenix. I don't know if he killed his dog with his keyboard immidiatly after the game because he was so angry. If he did I would tell him he acted stupid and should learn how to behave.
But I did see your childish behaviour and I got upset.
On April 22 2009 19:03 IdrA wrote: how on earth do people assume fenix was polite have you never talked to him before? he was just smart enough not to say anything in the game
I love how you always compare yourself to other people's lack of skills or lack of manners as if it somehow justifies anything you do.
i didnt compare myself to anything a bunch of people were praising him for being mannered, he said he was gonna kill me didnt really seem to make much sense
On April 22 2009 19:03 IdrA wrote: how on earth do people assume fenix was polite have you never talked to him before? he was just smart enough not to say anything in the game
On April 22 2009 23:28 infinity2k9 wrote: when you play all day every day with pros theres really no excuse not to win so no point being a faggot about it
Lol. I think there should be a feature to turn text chat off in competitive matches and just have a "GG" button instead. It would keep the whole thing more professional.
Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not
Ok, YouTube videos are up. We are still working on solutions for the videos on the site, we might do something similar to what you see this time with the youtube videos in the future.
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote: Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player.
Exactly. It's all about the game, not the manners. So there should be no need for any in game comms anyway.
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote: Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not
lol
"It's better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not"
Too many Hollywood movies, man. Sounds like good american movie moral. Ok. Let's try another one:
"It's better to grow up, respect your opponent and yourself than to keep up being a rude immature douch."
There is a big difference between being mondane and going for nerd rage every two weeks in front of 10 000 people. MistrZZZ used to be quite bm, but it was humoristic and done in purpose. IdrA just can't control himself.
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote: Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not
Idra is the FBH of foreign starcraft, some loves him , some hates him but in the end he's a good player and he's hecka entertaining =) now... if only he'd dance......
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote: Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not
Ever since Korea took SC to the professional level, the BM and GM shit has gone way too far. It's amazing how Starcraft has become so "serious" nowadays. "OMG he said GG before the game ended!!" This is obviously a big thing if some professional gamer did that in Korea. But wtf LOL ... What happened to the old days when video games were just games. Imho, everyone who went crazy over the bm really needs to lighten up. Don't let the social norms of Korea eat you up. I'm not saying it's bad, but come on just think about it ... who cares LOL!! It's not like he explicitly told Fenix that he sucks ass and that he lost a chance to go to Korea. That would be a different story ... Little things like the early GG make me giggle.
On April 23 2009 19:12 exkgb wrote: Wow, this thread is still going on.
Idra is the FBH of foreign starcraft, some loves him , some hates him but in the end he's a good player and he's hecka entertaining =) now... if only he'd dance......
Not at all. FBH is "funny". He makes ceremonies when he wins. A bit more like MistrZZZ. I can't imagine a FBH nerd rage.
In the other hand, IdrA is totally serious in his bm. He is not trying to be funny, and, in a certain extand, he doesn't even do it in purpose.
On April 23 2009 19:12 exkgb wrote: Wow, this thread is still going on.
Idra is the FBH of foreign starcraft, some loves him , some hates him but in the end he's a good player and he's hecka entertaining =) now... if only he'd dance......
Not at all. FBH is "funny". He makes ceremonies when he wins. A bit more like MistrZZZ. I can't imagine a FBH nerd rage.
In the other hand, IdrA is totally serious in his bm. He is not trying to be funny, and, in a certain extand, he doesn't even do it in purpose.
That's the entertaining and funny thing about him. Many people here on TL seem to be against him as well as most foreigners that play SC. Ofc, he's going to have this bottled-up emotion and let it out. Just imagine your alone in a house where you're the only American and you're far away from home. Plus, you got gosu koreans owning you everywhere and ppl on TL and GG.net attacking and expecting a lot from you. Damn, gotta give him props for not giving up and keepin' the flow. That's kinda manly in a way
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote: Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not
Ever since Korea took SC to the professional level, the BM and GM shit has gone way too far. It's amazing how Starcraft has become so "serious" nowadays. "OMG he said GG before the game ended!!" This is obviously a big thing if some professional gamer did that in Korea. But wtf LOL ... What happened to the old days when video games were just games. Imho, everyone who went crazy over the bm really needs to lighten up. Don't let the social norms of Korea eat you up. I'm not saying it's bad, but come on just think about it ... who cares LOL!! It's not like he explicitly told Fenix that he sucks ass and that he lost a chance to go to Korea. That would be a different story ... Little things like the early GG make me giggle.
I personnaly care that a player insult another one and act like a dick in a public match. Same way that if I go to a chess tornament and one of the players refuse to shake hand, I would be disturbed (and btw, he would be disqualified imediately). And when soccer players simulate, insult each others or act like dicks, I am disturbed too (that's why I don't like soccer, btw).
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote: Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not
Ever since Korea took SC to the professional level, the BM and GM shit has gone way too far. It's amazing how Starcraft has become so "serious" nowadays. "OMG he said GG before the game ended!!" This is obviously a big thing if some professional gamer did that in Korea. But wtf LOL ... What happened to the old days when video games were just games. Imho, everyone who went crazy over the bm really needs to lighten up. Don't let the social norms of Korea eat you up. I'm not saying it's bad, but come on just think about it ... who cares LOL!! It's not like he explicitly told Fenix that he sucks ass and that he lost a chance to go to Korea. That would be a different story ... Little things like the early GG make me giggle.
I personnaly care that a player insult another one and act like a dick in a public match. Same way that if I go to a chess tornament and one of the players refuse to shake hand, I would be disturbed (and btw, he would be disqualified imediately). And when soccer players simulate, insult each others or act like dicks, I am disturbed too (that's why I don't like soccer, btw).
It happens in all sports and competition. Bm will always be existent and you just gotta deal with it. What I'm saying is that the levels of BM and how people define it in SC is so funny. Like I said, "OMG he said GG before the gamed ended!!" LOL ...... big deal? In American culture, this would be funny. But I have to keep in mind that different cultures (Europe, Asia, etc) might perceive this differently and the degree of seriousness would be different. So I apologize, you're right. Anyways, we all have our opinions on when things really start going too far or start becoming too offensive ...
On April 23 2009 19:12 exkgb wrote: Wow, this thread is still going on.
Idra is the FBH of foreign starcraft, some loves him , some hates him but in the end he's a good player and he's hecka entertaining =) now... if only he'd dance......
Not at all. FBH is "funny". He makes ceremonies when he wins. A bit more like MistrZZZ. I can't imagine a FBH nerd rage.
In the other hand, IdrA is totally serious in his bm. He is not trying to be funny, and, in a certain extand, he doesn't even do it in purpose.
If you are saying that Idra is not entertaining, I beg to differ
If you look at dictionary.com
one of the definitions of "entertain" is - to hold the attention of pleasantly or agreeably; divert; amuse.
And to that end, if you see the reaction of people to Idra's games, he definitely accomplish the goal of being entertaining ( consciously or unconsciously ). During his games, there are always a lot of discussion going on, there's the haters who wish he'd lose and there are also the more light hearted people watching out for his BM moments and frankly, its amusing as heck.
If you watch the casts of these games, Idra's BM even creates interesting/entertaining responses from the Artosis/Tasteless, which is... entertaining. Even when the games are over, his BM-ness evokes response from the community from famous figures like Rek ( who always makes entertaining posts ).
And to characterize his BM-ness as totally serious would be false too. As a lot of people have said, its simply nerd-rage. If you look at previous instances of his BM-ness ( such as to strelok ), Idra admits afterwards that he's been acting like an ass. The guy is obviously caught up in the spur-of-the-moment nerd-rage, which makes it very...... ENTERTAINING! just look at how many views the nerd-rage videos on youtube has, many people are entertained by it.
As any polarizing figure, there will be always lovers/haters to Idra, but to say that he is not entertaining is just wrong.
I stand behind my statement about the dancing part....
I cant belive fenix kept his cool while being under a constant barrage of insults from idra. Grow up idra stop calling people gosus or typing gg you child. I'm not surprised fenix said he will kill you because if you did this to me I would probably devote my life to destroying you. One day you might learn that if you say nothing everyone will love you. What's wrong with you crazy child?
On April 23 2009 18:00 jtype wrote: Lol. I think there should be a feature to turn text chat off in competitive matches and just have a "GG" button instead. It would keep the whole thing more professional.
Wouldnt help. Idra would obviously press it before the game was over...
On April 23 2009 18:00 jtype wrote: Lol. I think there should be a feature to turn text chat off in competitive matches and just have a "GG" button instead. It would keep the whole thing more professional.
Wouldnt help. Idra would obviously press it before the game was over...
a loophole! damn, foiled again. What are we going to do now? This child is completely out of control we must find a method to sedate him before he does something crazy. You guys have any ideas?
Wouldnt help. Idra would obviously press it before the game was over... a loophole! damn, foiled again. What are we going to do now? This child is completely out of control we must find a method to sedate him before he does something crazy. You guys have any ideas?
We could put him on a pro team in Korea and see if that helps... oh wait...
On April 23 2009 18:00 jtype wrote: Lol. I think there should be a feature to turn text chat off in competitive matches and just have a "GG" button instead. It would keep the whole thing more professional.
Wouldnt help. Idra would obviously press it before the game was over...
How about a plugin that automatically sends "gg" when you quit the game.
Good manner is such a sliding scale that it would be bullshit to remove someone for that. Beyond that he played fair. Idra plays like a goddamn asshole, but he shouldn't be removed.
On April 23 2009 21:58 Chill wrote: Good manner is such a sliding scale that it would be bullshit to remove someone for that. Beyond that he played fair. Idra plays like a goddamn asshole, but he shouldn't be removed.
Ooohhh yes, such a sliding scale. I'm sure some sane people would consider "rofl youre bad" as a very polite compliment. That is just sooooo subject to interpretations. Complete bullshit to think otherwise.
On April 23 2009 21:58 Chill wrote: Good manner is such a sliding scale that it would be bullshit to remove someone for that. Beyond that he played fair. Idra plays like a goddamn asshole, but he shouldn't be removed.
Ooohhh yes, such a sliding scale. I'm sure some sane people would consider "rofl youre bad" as a very polite compliment. That is just sooooo subject to interpretations. Complete bullshit to think otherwise.
I understand that you didn't get Chill's comment, and that's OK! Here is an example of a sliding scale of BM (when a Terran first scouts proxy gate):