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IdrA vs Fenix - ESWC American Finals

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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 06:40:19
April 17 2009 13:34 GMT
#1
YOUTUBE VIDEOS

Ok, YouTube videos are up. We are still working on solutions for the videos on the site, we might do something similar to what you see this time with the youtube videos in the future.

Commentated by Tasteless+Artosis

IdrA vs Fenix Game 1
IdrA vs Fenix Game 2
IdrA vs Fenix Game 3
IdrA vs Fenix Game 4


Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
April 17 2009 13:39 GMT
#2
thanks guys. cant wait to watch!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
April 17 2009 13:43 GMT
#3
idra's bm in these games are both hilarious and cute.
worth the watch!
Commentator
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
April 17 2009 13:44 GMT
#4
rofl game 4 is so epic hahahah
^-^
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 13:46:10
April 17 2009 13:45 GMT
#5
On April 17 2009 22:39 omninmo wrote:
thanks guys. cant wait to watch!


yeah, but with these load times you'll probably have to!

what's the progress on fixing that, artosis?

anyway, thank you very much for the commentaries. once they load, they are consistently great stuff.
:O
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
April 17 2009 13:45 GMT
#6
can someone post result in spoiler?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
April 17 2009 13:47 GMT
#7
Replayes released?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
April 17 2009 13:49 GMT
#8
On April 17 2009 22:45 SkelA wrote:
can someone post result in spoiler?


+ Show Spoiler +
IdrA > Fenix @ Winners Bracket Advantage
IdrA > Fenix @ Neo Harmony
IdrA < Fenix @ Colloseum II
IdrA < Fenix @ Sin Chupung-Ryung
IdrA > Fenix @ Destination
Commentator
stiga
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
April 17 2009 13:50 GMT
#9
god these games take so long to load, and sometimes wont even play. wish i could watch them
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
April 17 2009 13:50 GMT
#10
Videos don't really seem to work for me, they load for about 1-2 mins then they reset.

Sounds like a great series, waiting for the youtube videos.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
exkgb
Profile Joined September 2005
United States504 Posts
April 17 2009 13:51 GMT
#11
so laggy.. youtube plz
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
April 17 2009 13:54 GMT
#12
Tied to watch it but its not possible ........... still sucky player waiting for youtube or even better replays!
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
April 17 2009 13:57 GMT
#13
reps plz
im gay
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42533 Posts
April 17 2009 14:17 GMT
#14
Fenix next bonjwa?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
April 17 2009 14:27 GMT
#15
In the future, first youtube, then Scforall plz.

this way we just get annoyed.
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
April 17 2009 14:33 GMT
#16
On April 17 2009 22:44 Equinox_kr wrote:
rofl game 4 is so epic hahahah


+ Show Spoiler +
epic bm
impatience is a virtue
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 17 2009 14:37 GMT
#17
i've waited to load, and hit start, and after 5 minutes the VOD crashes
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
April 17 2009 14:44 GMT
#18
On April 17 2009 23:37 Geo.Rion wrote:
i've waited to load, and hit start, and after 5 minutes the VOD crashes


yes, this happens regularly

i cant do it. not "it's so annoying that i can't do it" but "the website does not allow me to watch"
:O
Lq_ fAn
Profile Joined June 2007
Lithuania154 Posts
April 17 2009 15:05 GMT
#19
download orbit then with grab++ tool grab video dowload speed is nice
Lq_ fAn
Profile Joined June 2007
Lithuania154 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 15:36:12
April 17 2009 15:18 GMT
#20
deleted by request of Artosis
Post these links up again and get banned
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
April 17 2009 15:29 GMT
#21
Could someone upload these on tracker or youtube? so sloooww
gonna try to watch these at my friends house later on..
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
April 17 2009 15:33 GMT
#22
i've said plenty of times not to direct link to the vods. take that shit down ASAP.
if you want to orbit download it, feel free. but do not, i repeat, do not, download directly.
if you are too lazy to figure out orbit or let it load, then simply wait for the youtube videos.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
kartoffel
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany38 Posts
April 17 2009 15:35 GMT
#23
when i try to watch a vod on scforall i feel like i travelled back in time to 1999 connected with 56k modem.
could be a bit faster at least.
Iss immer deine Kartoffeln.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
April 17 2009 15:37 GMT
#24
+ Show Spoiler +
What the, did idra just leave without doing anything in game 2, that was really random
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
whataballer
Profile Joined March 2009
United States82 Posts
April 17 2009 15:40 GMT
#25
Woo artosis and tasteless. Thanks, this should be entertaining!
HOLD POSITION
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 17 2009 15:47 GMT
#26
Ah man, I'd love to watch but these things take forever to load..
Adams Æbler
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10683 Posts
April 17 2009 16:27 GMT
#27
On April 18 2009 00:35 kartoffel wrote:
when i try to watch a vod on scforall i feel like i travelled back in time to 1999 connected with 56k modem.
could be a bit faster at least.



make that 28k are some guy painting the games before you on a sheet of paper.....
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
April 17 2009 16:28 GMT
#28
LOL, man idras bm in these games is so good
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
smipth
Profile Joined January 2009
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 16:33:29
April 17 2009 16:32 GMT
#29
who is fenix? is he good or is he just some newb artosis found so that idra can finally win something.
Favorite Players: Forgg, Savior, Stork, Bisu
sexsexpussyhair
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada133 Posts
April 17 2009 16:38 GMT
#30
how come idra didnt learn no manner in korea, he would have been stomped by cj teammates for bm.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 17 2009 16:38 GMT
#31
On April 18 2009 01:32 smipth wrote:
who is fenix? is he good or is he just some newb artosis found so that idra can finally win something.

:o
ModeratorGood content always wins.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
April 17 2009 16:41 GMT
#32
fenix is a pretty well known player from peru, i believe. and smipth, you're a moron.

thanks for these artosis. they're loading for me... albeit very, very slowly
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
April 17 2009 16:48 GMT
#33
lol @ IdrA BMBMBM
Bang!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 17 2009 16:55 GMT
#34
Thanks Artosis!

Unlike most posters in these threads I actually feel like video at SCForAll loads too fast for me - as soon as I click play, I see 1+ MB/s down. The entire video loads even before I get past 30 seconds in. Maybe SCForAll's problem is distributing bandwidth properly? I feel like I'm loading these videos unnecessarily fast .

When I am at my parents' house in Chicago I have the opposite problem (I have to leave SCForAll vids to buffer for an hour before I can watch).

Anyway, I really love these commentaries!! Artosis + Tasteless was a nice combo for Super vs. Lx, so I expect they'll be fun to watch here as well. Keep up the great work, Artosis and SCForAll.
✌
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
April 17 2009 17:00 GMT
#35
On April 18 2009 01:55 JWD wrote:
Thanks Artosis!

Unlike most posters in these threads I actually feel like video at SCForAll loads too fast for me - as soon as I click play, I see 1+ MB/s down. The entire video loads even before I get past 30 seconds in. Maybe SCForAll's problem is distributing bandwidth properly? I feel like I'm loading these videos unnecessarily fast .

When I am at my parents' house in Chicago I have the opposite problem (I have to leave SCForAll vids to buffer for an hour before I can watch).

Anyway, I really love these commentaries!! Artosis + Tasteless was a nice combo for Super vs. Lx, so I expect they'll be fun to watch here as well. Keep up the great work, Artosis and SCForAll.


Where you located presently? I have this problem on all my pc's. Im located in north texas. If I want to see a clip of something at scforall I need to leave it loading. Even 80% of the time it d/l's half the clip and then stops.
ya had ya shot kid!
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
April 17 2009 17:10 GMT
#36
Hi Artosis, so the video stopped and I gotta wait for another hour for it to load, but just before it stopped I got to the story of you beating Bisu hahahahah

congratz~
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 17 2009 17:14 GMT
#37
On April 18 2009 02:00 Kennelie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 01:55 JWD wrote:
Thanks Artosis!

Unlike most posters in these threads I actually feel like video at SCForAll loads too fast for me - as soon as I click play, I see 1+ MB/s down. The entire video loads even before I get past 30 seconds in. Maybe SCForAll's problem is distributing bandwidth properly? I feel like I'm loading these videos unnecessarily fast .

When I am at my parents' house in Chicago I have the opposite problem (I have to leave SCForAll vids to buffer for an hour before I can watch).

Anyway, I really love these commentaries!! Artosis + Tasteless was a nice combo for Super vs. Lx, so I expect they'll be fun to watch here as well. Keep up the great work, Artosis and SCForAll.


Where you located presently? I have this problem on all my pc's. Im located in north texas. If I want to see a clip of something at scforall I need to leave it loading. Even 80% of the time it d/l's half the clip and then stops.


I'm in the Bay Area. My internet connection here is much faster than it is at my parents' place in Chicago, but I don't think that is an issue since the problem is SCForAll not sending me enough data, as opposed to me not being able to receive it fast enough (my connection in both places is well fast enough to watch streaming video).
✌
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
April 17 2009 17:17 GMT
#38
Most VOD's on ScForall.com load pretty quickly for me, however these games are definately an exception. It is taking about 1 hour to load a 20 minute game.
Hi
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 17:35:13
April 17 2009 17:29 GMT
#39
http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/index.php?currentpage=40

http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/download.php?replay=566

"bulldog[tc] using bulldog build". I can't believe people forget the origin of the build when every single goon attack is called a bulldog these days

I mean I'm sure someone has built 3 gates before expo and used mass goons with zealot shuttle attacks, but the build was named after the korean player Bulldog[tC] it can't really be denied he was the one who popularized it/made it his signature build.
Lq_ fAn
Profile Joined June 2007
Lithuania154 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 17:56:19
April 17 2009 17:54 GMT
#40
if videos loads very slow why not to download them? for me it load very long but when im downloading these vidoes from scforall I have max speed
download obrit downloader then Tools --> grab++
this program lets you find direct link to video. what you have to do is open page with video and press play then you got link press download and orbit downloader will download your video in seconds.
all videos are .flv so make shure you have codec to play them
pls dont ban me artosis I dont post direct links here .
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
April 17 2009 17:56 GMT
#41
thanks for the entertaining commentary and props to fenix for keeping it cool
@riotsnowbird
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 17 2009 17:56 GMT
#42
He doesn't mind if you DL the video with orbit, but using a direct link means he doesn't get hits on the site
Jortikka
Profile Joined April 2008
Finland16 Posts
April 17 2009 18:21 GMT
#43
orbit roxx =)
gonna watch these vods soon, hoping for some funny comments by idra xD

idra keep on practicing, you gonna win something big sooner or later d(^_^)b
(i mean that in a good way)
noob forever
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 17 2009 18:25 GMT
#44
cant wait to watch thanks!
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
April 17 2009 18:31 GMT
#45
I was able to watch some of the games. Idra is really annoying with all his stupid comments. I don't understand why he always has to act so childish is every foreign event he goes to but in korea he gg's after loses and isn't bm.
Hi
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10683 Posts
April 17 2009 18:40 GMT
#46
wew, after 3 hours the first video is fully loaded... :p
masami.sc
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States445 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 18:42:24
April 17 2009 18:41 GMT
#47
I don't understand. Why are there only 4 games? Wasn't it 2-2?

Edit: Nevermind. Where can I watch the Winner's Bracket match?
mmmmm...
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 17 2009 18:42 GMT
#48
Because Idra came in from the winner bracket and started at 1-0
AstraBoy
Profile Joined August 2006
Peru363 Posts
April 17 2009 18:48 GMT
#49
LOL

haha, now I know why koreans keep idra with them ^^

so fun, to watch him getting angry, and being bm :D

and koreans behind him, laughing haha
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
April 17 2009 18:51 GMT
#50
On April 18 2009 03:31 kidd wrote:
I was able to watch some of the games. Idra is really annoying with all his stupid comments. I don't understand why he always has to act so childish is every foreign event he goes to but in korea he gg's after loses and isn't bm.


Cause it was an online event. If he acts like that in offline event, he'll be cooked. And if he does that in Korea, he'll be sent back to his mommy.
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 18:56:36
April 17 2009 18:56 GMT
#51
awesome series, and idras comments were icing on the cake. lol at offensive gg
wraiths go pew pew
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
April 17 2009 18:59 GMT
#52
Artosis: how much money would it take to get the scforall site to not take all day to stream a video? I'm considering donation assuming it will actually get it fixed.
myfriendPlank
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States550 Posts
April 17 2009 19:06 GMT
#53
When will this uploaded to youtube? The video keeps buffering on the other site.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
April 17 2009 19:15 GMT
#54
To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 19:18:03
April 17 2009 19:15 GMT
#55
omg IdrA bm game, can't wait to watch.

So this was an online game, but were his teammates watching over his shoulder? Did any of them understand what he was saying?

On April 18 2009 04:15 Sadistx wrote:
To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
April 17 2009 19:25 GMT
#56
On April 18 2009 04:15 Sadistx wrote:
To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.


Anyone who knows Idra knows that he is generally rude in online event he is invited to. I doubt he actually is a nice guy trying to throw off his oppenent with well placed "bm" comments.
Hi
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 17 2009 19:25 GMT
#57
On April 18 2009 04:15 Sadistx wrote:
To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.

so game 7 in a series of 7 he is down 4-2 and bms..
it's because he defintly has a chance of getting back in the game and beating F91?
cw)minsean(ru
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 19:34:20
April 17 2009 19:33 GMT
#58
BM Fighting!

Edit: Each individual game was for the same amount of money. It wasn't a traditional series so your point doesn't hold!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7883 Posts
April 17 2009 19:36 GMT
#59
On April 18 2009 04:15 Sadistx wrote:
To people who dislike Idra's bm or whatever. It's not really BM, it's just another way of throwing your opponent off. If your opponent gets angry or has to read what you wrote and get distracted - it's a benefit to you.

Call it strategy, I call it being an idiot.

IdrA is bm and arrogant not because he wants to upset his opponent, but because he is too immature and frustrated to refrain being rude and lack courtesy to a guy who spend a fourth of his practice time and is still able to win almost half of the games.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 17 2009 19:43 GMT
#60
+ Show Spoiler +
It is interesting though, how more practice time won out in the end
toopham
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States551 Posts
April 17 2009 19:49 GMT
#61
OK This is a suggestion for future fasting.

Turn the Mouse scrolling and Keyboard scrolling all the way down please.
I watch first game and the observer movement is not smooth at all.
Obviously the keyboard scroll was very high. Please remember this next time because the fast scrolling can give me a headache.

other than that awesome Matchup Can't wait to find out who win!
DIE!!!
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
April 17 2009 19:59 GMT
#62
On April 18 2009 03:31 kidd wrote:
I was able to watch some of the games. Idra is really annoying with all his stupid comments. I don't understand why he always has to act so childish is every foreign event he goes to but in korea he gg's after loses and isn't bm.


Well, the simple answer is because if he BMed in Korean events he'd be disqualified...lol

Game 2 was hilarious, I was like how the hell can this be so short...oh
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 17 2009 20:03 GMT
#63
On April 18 2009 04:49 toopham wrote:
OK This is a suggestion for future fasting.

Turn the Mouse scrolling and Keyboard scrolling all the way down please.
I watch first game and the observer movement is not smooth at all.
Obviously the keyboard scroll was very high. Please remember this next time because the fast scrolling can give me a headache.

other than that awesome Matchup Can't wait to find out who win!

As they said in the broadcast they didn't control the screen
toopham
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States551 Posts
April 17 2009 20:05 GMT
#64
On April 18 2009 05:03 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 04:49 toopham wrote:
OK This is a suggestion for future fasting.

Turn the Mouse scrolling and Keyboard scrolling all the way down please.
I watch first game and the observer movement is not smooth at all.
Obviously the keyboard scroll was very high. Please remember this next time because the fast scrolling can give me a headache.

other than that awesome Matchup Can't wait to find out who win!

As they said in the broadcast they didn't control the screen


They should tell whoever the observer is to turn it down then.
DIE!!!
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
April 17 2009 20:20 GMT
#65
[image loading]
日本語が分かりますか
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
April 17 2009 20:20 GMT
#66
i honestly never have problems with scforall videos
it loads slower than youtube, but it still loads pretty fast
also to people who are getting like 10 seconds of video before they have to rebuffer
right click on the screen->settings->folder tab->move the slider to the right all the way
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
April 17 2009 20:28 GMT
#67
I FKIN HATE YOUR VIDEO HOSTING THING

GOD!
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
April 17 2009 20:35 GMT
#68
btw, i dunno wtf causes the sound to be slightly different, but sieged tank fire sounds fucking awesome
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
April 17 2009 20:38 GMT
#69
just wanted to say that the commentary was really good. i know tasteless is a little constrained on the gomtv casts because of the target audience, so i like these informal ones a little more. really funny and insightful from both artosis and tasteless, great job guys
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 17 2009 20:47 GMT
#70
Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong with Orbit? Whenever I try to dl it, I get some 30kb file instead of the video itself..
Adams Æbler
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 17 2009 21:07 GMT
#71
Make sure the video is playing first
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
April 17 2009 21:08 GMT
#72
Uhh I can get the intro, then you guys are like "Let's just get right down to it" "Let's do this"
AND IM LIKE YEAH LETS GET TO IT
Then my screen goes black and I watch that again...
Do this 3 times until morale fails and I make this post
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 17 2009 21:12 GMT
#73
On April 18 2009 06:07 floor exercise wrote:
Make sure the video is playing first


I did, but it still won't work. I tried refreshing and whatnot, but it won't work. Seriously, how hard can it be to find a way to make this accessible to people outside Korea/USA?
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8835 Posts
April 17 2009 22:00 GMT
#74
Haha, funny games. IdrA takes being a publicity stunt too seriously.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
April 17 2009 22:13 GMT
#75
Can anyone explain me whats going on in Idra´s mind for game2???
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
April 17 2009 22:16 GMT
#76
here is a tip

open the window, let it load. turn the volume all the way down.
open another window, do something else, or go make a sandwich.
after about 15 mintues, come back, put the slider back on the beginning and you should be able to watch it all. just sitting there waiting for it to load, ya, is torture.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
April 17 2009 22:36 GMT
#77
On April 18 2009 07:13 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
Can anyone explain me whats going on in Idra´s mind for game2???



well he knew he wouldnt win, he was behind economically due to failed proxy, he was gassed so wouldnt have tanks or a factory till real late, and on a map where everyone 10-15 gates with no ramp. pretty much instalose. wouldnt even have vultures to mine. playing that out would be a waste of time
wraiths go pew pew
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 17 2009 22:38 GMT
#78
I really hate to add another complaint to this thread, but the commentary is out of sync with the video for these games (same went for Super vs. Lx) and it's kind of a problem at tense moments (such as the reaver drops in game 1).
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d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 17 2009 22:41 GMT
#79
After waiting for more than 1h for the first game to be loaded, I finally give up. I'd hang around on scforall quite a lot if it weren't for these buffering issues. TL's small VOD thread is much better..
Adams Æbler
StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
April 17 2009 22:42 GMT
#80
slightly off topic but...is there anyone idra actually respects as a sc player?
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3321 Posts
April 17 2009 22:47 GMT
#81
I respect him as a SC Player.
김택용 Fighting!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 22:54:35
April 17 2009 22:49 GMT
#82
On April 18 2009 07:42 StalinRusH wrote:
slightly off topic but...is there anyone idra actually respects as a sc player?


Edit: nevermind
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frs.
Profile Joined July 2008
Finland9 Posts
April 17 2009 22:51 GMT
#83
For someone from the States your reading comprehension isnt that great
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 22:57:10
April 17 2009 22:53 GMT
#84
On April 18 2009 07:51 frs. wrote:
For someone from the States your reading comprehension isnt that great


haha good call, I actually read Yaqoob's post first and it threw me off. My bad.

PS lol, you used one of your 7 posts to point out my flub? You registered last summer...looks like you've just wasted your one post for the next few months, on me!
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StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
April 17 2009 22:54 GMT
#85
well..maybe im retarded but im sure that says is there anyone THAT IDRA actually respects as a sc player (didnt add that but then again i suck at english)
A Combination Of Tuberculosis And A Tomahawk To The Head:: Nothing Bonds Drunken Idiots Like Sexual Innuendos ::
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
April 17 2009 22:58 GMT
#86
Idra needs to learn some manners seriously
Bang!
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
April 17 2009 23:07 GMT
#87
On April 18 2009 07:58 Islandsnake wrote:
Idra needs to learn some manners seriously


nah not really
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masami.sc
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States445 Posts
April 17 2009 23:12 GMT
#88
On April 18 2009 07:58 Islandsnake wrote:
Idra needs to learn some manners seriously


A good mannered Idra? Boring.
mmmmm...
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 17 2009 23:17 GMT
#89
On April 18 2009 07:58 Islandsnake wrote:
Idra needs to learn some manners seriously

nope. he has manners playing on gom tv
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
April 17 2009 23:21 GMT
#90
On April 18 2009 07:58 Islandsnake wrote:
Idra needs to learn some manners seriously


A GM IdrA =/= not IdrA. IdrA is BM and that what's makes him so awesome to watch - you never know whether he's going to rage ingame.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5501 Posts
April 17 2009 23:29 GMT
#91
I thought bad mannered mistrzzz was fun to watch, he actually made jokes and stuff and was just generally being childish which was fun to watch for a change. Idra actually appears to get mad in game which makes it really fucking lame.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
April 17 2009 23:32 GMT
#92
On April 18 2009 01:55 JWD wrote:
Thanks Artosis!

Unlike most posters in these threads I actually feel like video at SCForAll loads too fast for me - as soon as I click play, I see 1+ MB/s down. The entire video loads even before I get past 30 seconds in.

You lucky bastard
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
April 17 2009 23:37 GMT
#93
game 2 is absolutely amazing
im gay
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 17 2009 23:41 GMT
#94
Idra BM is entertaining.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
April 17 2009 23:41 GMT
#95
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 17 2009 22:34 Artosis wrote:
IdrA vs Fenix Game 1
IdrA vs Fenix Game 2
IdrA vs Fenix Game 3
IdrA vs Fenix Game 4

Commentated by Tasteless+Artosis

Youtubes will be up at some point, and then I'll post the links.


On April 17 2009 22:49 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 22:45 SkelA wrote:
can someone post result in spoiler?


+ Show Spoiler +
IdrA > Fenix @ Winners Bracket Advantage
IdrA > Fenix @ Neo Harmony
IdrA < Fenix @ Colloseum II
IdrA < Fenix @ Sin Chupung-Ryung
IdrA > Fenix @ Destination

so is there one game not uploaded yet? I haven't watched these yet but if result is 3-2 it's strange that there is only 4 games uploaded to sc4all o.O
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3321 Posts
April 17 2009 23:51 GMT
#96
On April 18 2009 07:54 StalinRusH wrote:
well..maybe im retarded but im sure that says is there anyone THAT IDRA actually respects as a sc player (didnt add that but then again i suck at english)

I misread it lol
김택용 Fighting!
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
April 17 2009 23:53 GMT
#97
what is with the anti-direct linking? bandwidth is bandwidth, who cares if you download it directly or wait for it to load on the scforall page
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
April 17 2009 23:53 GMT
#98
On April 18 2009 08:41 Piste wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 17 2009 22:34 Artosis wrote:
IdrA vs Fenix Game 1
IdrA vs Fenix Game 2
IdrA vs Fenix Game 3
IdrA vs Fenix Game 4

Commentated by Tasteless+Artosis

Youtubes will be up at some point, and then I'll post the links.


On April 17 2009 22:49 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 22:45 SkelA wrote:
can someone post result in spoiler?


+ Show Spoiler +
IdrA > Fenix @ Winners Bracket Advantage
IdrA > Fenix @ Neo Harmony
IdrA < Fenix @ Colloseum II
IdrA < Fenix @ Sin Chupung-Ryung
IdrA > Fenix @ Destination

so is there one game not uploaded yet? I haven't watched these yet but if result is 3-2 it's strange that there is only 4 games uploaded to sc4all o.O


dude...the answer is in your own post if you expand everything

Idra was given a 1 game head start for coming out of the winner's bracket
impatience is a virtue
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 00:03:33
April 17 2009 23:59 GMT
#99
On April 18 2009 08:53 radar14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 08:41 Piste wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 17 2009 22:34 Artosis wrote:
IdrA vs Fenix Game 1
IdrA vs Fenix Game 2
IdrA vs Fenix Game 3
IdrA vs Fenix Game 4

Commentated by Tasteless+Artosis

Youtubes will be up at some point, and then I'll post the links.


On April 17 2009 22:49 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 22:45 SkelA wrote:
can someone post result in spoiler?


+ Show Spoiler +
IdrA > Fenix @ Winners Bracket Advantage
IdrA > Fenix @ Neo Harmony
IdrA < Fenix @ Colloseum II
IdrA < Fenix @ Sin Chupung-Ryung
IdrA > Fenix @ Destination

so is there one game not uploaded yet? I haven't watched these yet but if result is 3-2 it's strange that there is only 4 games uploaded to sc4all o.O


dude...the answer is in your own post if you expand everything

Idra was given a 1 game head start for coming out of the winner's bracket

Yeah sorry :D I just realised it. : >


edit: I've opened all these links once again and after ½hour wait I saw that game two was fully downloaded!!

I watched it and couldn't decide wether to laugh or cry ;_;
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3321 Posts
April 18 2009 00:02 GMT
#100
On April 18 2009 08:53 benjammin wrote:
what is with the anti-direct linking? bandwidth is bandwidth, who cares if you download it directly or wait for it to load on the scforall page

I really wanted to watch these games and I tried letting it load and waiting but it wasn't working so I just installed 'Orbit' and used it to download the videos.
김택용 Fighting!
frankbg
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada335 Posts
April 18 2009 00:07 GMT
#101
..... I CANNOT stand SCforall's vod issues .... theyve been telling us for MONTHS they are working on it yet it's still utter trash ... Seriously .... I have to wait longer for loading than the actual length of the video.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10683 Posts
April 18 2009 00:11 GMT
#102
Idra is just an idiot.


An idiot that plays very good starcraft.

Playing very good starcraft and sitting 24/7 with other guys that play even better starcraft does not make you a better *human*. He's an idiot, he will most probably ever be an idiot.

Like him or not. I like him and he hopefully likes himself.

STFU i want to see good starcraft not good manners.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
April 18 2009 00:15 GMT
#103
On April 18 2009 02:29 floor exercise wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/index.php?currentpage=40

http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/download.php?replay=566

"bulldog[tc] using bulldog build". I can't believe people forget the origin of the build when every single goon attack is called a bulldog these days

I mean I'm sure someone has built 3 gates before expo and used mass goons with zealot shuttle attacks, but the build was named after the korean player Bulldog[tC] it can't really be denied he was the one who popularized it/made it his signature build.


i am also annoyed how everyone thinks the bulldog is the 'style' of attack.
pride stole the bulldog style of gaming from bulldog himself lol
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whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
April 18 2009 00:23 GMT
#104
On April 18 2009 08:53 benjammin wrote:
what is with the anti-direct linking? bandwidth is bandwidth, who cares if you download it directly or wait for it to load on the scforall page


scforall doesnt get hits if you direct link download it
im gay
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
April 18 2009 00:28 GMT
#105
+ Show Spoiler +
lol game 2 was amazing!
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 18 2009 00:42 GMT
#106
Well, I just watched this entire series and I thought it was pretty entertaining. Highlights were IdrA's classic bm and Artosis's great story about beating Bisu (at the beginning of game 3).
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
April 18 2009 00:44 GMT
#107
On April 18 2009 09:11 Velr wrote:
STFU i want to see good starcraft not good manners.


you're a smart guy Velr
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Future)Breeze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Croatia88 Posts
April 18 2009 00:44 GMT
#108
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL at game 2 .D
besseriym
Profile Joined February 2009
United States42 Posts
April 18 2009 00:47 GMT
#109
Thanks Artosis!

Artosis + Tateless commentary is some of the best commentating so far imo. I really enjoyed watching the previous 2 series.
Whoa...people still play Starcraft?!?!?...awesome. ^^
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
April 18 2009 00:57 GMT
#110
On April 18 2009 09:11 Velr wrote:
STFU i want to see good starcraft not good manners.


Maybe you meant you wanted to see game by the only foreigner in Korea at the moment? Yea sure, go watch Idra.

If you want to see good sc games ? Check out msl, mst, osl, gomtv, proleagues.... tons of leagues with players who are extremely better than the dumb kid Idra.

Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
April 18 2009 01:24 GMT
#111
I thought game 2 was like an error or something because it kept instantly loading and saying only 3 minutes, so i kept refreshing until i went onto the next vod and you two said how short the last game was. Then I went back and watched it. Wow
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
April 18 2009 01:30 GMT
#112
On April 18 2009 08:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:
I thought bad mannered mistrzzz was fun to watch, he actually made jokes and stuff and was just generally being childish which was fun to watch for a change. Idra actually appears to get mad in game which makes it really fucking lame.


Agreed, Mistrzzz BM was calculated BM, kind of like FBH's BM. Idra's BM is legit anger, and he needs to grow up and out of it.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 18 2009 01:38 GMT
#113
On April 18 2009 10:30 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 08:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:
I thought bad mannered mistrzzz was fun to watch, he actually made jokes and stuff and was just generally being childish which was fun to watch for a change. Idra actually appears to get mad in game which makes it really fucking lame.


Agreed, Mistrzzz BM was calculated BM, kind of like FBH's BM. Idra's BM is legit anger, and he needs to grow up and out of it.

How is it legit anger? Please.

though MistrZZZ has the best bm of all i mean being up 2-0 on JF in a bo5 and losing it 3-2 by trying to win with his offraces takes class
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
April 18 2009 01:39 GMT
#114
idra is such a great troll, who else can get people so worked up with one-liners.

props to idra
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 18 2009 01:44 GMT
#115
cant wait for youtube omg
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
myfriendPlank
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States550 Posts
April 18 2009 01:45 GMT
#116
Why bother posting these links if they are utter garbage... Waiting 1 hour for a 20 minute video to load...
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 01:56:39
April 18 2009 01:53 GMT
#117
OrbitDownloader here we go again

Start grab++, start all the videos in your browser, wait 20 seconds. Diretly download the videos with Orbit Download. SCForall gets the hits on the videos, I get the videos faster. All is good.

<3 Artosis commentarys. Want moar!
Too bad he stopped doing Proleague/MSL :\
orcsmash
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada319 Posts
April 18 2009 01:55 GMT
#118
+ Show Spoiler +
You're gosu.
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
April 18 2009 02:00 GMT
#119
will there be reps of this??

i just have to see bms on my repscreen lol
Why So Serious?!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 18 2009 02:05 GMT
#120
On April 18 2009 11:00 mIsUZu wrote:
will there be reps of this??

i just have to see bms on my repscreen lol

i want to make the offensive GG my background :D
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 18 2009 02:46 GMT
#121
lmao IdrA and fenix wow, I wonder how much BM I will see through out these games
Life?
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
April 18 2009 03:03 GMT
#122
I actually loved Idra's attitude in these games. The "gg" in the last game really got me going.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
April 18 2009 03:14 GMT
#123
yayyyy idra!
His TvP is very clean, nice to watch some.
:D
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
April 18 2009 03:20 GMT
#124
thanks as usual artosis
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
April 18 2009 03:33 GMT
#125
+ Show Spoiler +
"you're gosu"


Awesome.
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
April 18 2009 03:34 GMT
#126
after actually watching these games:

lololololololol
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
April 18 2009 03:47 GMT
#127
Hohoho. Such a fun series. Idra is... + Show Spoiler +
MY HERO!!!!!!!!!!!
toopham
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States551 Posts
April 18 2009 04:18 GMT
#128
SCforALL player SUCKS ASS!

I watched half of the game then it freeze on me so now if i wanna load it again, I have to watch it all over again. I can't fast forward. xD
DIE!!!
MetalCharly
Profile Joined April 2009
El Salvador21 Posts
April 18 2009 04:22 GMT
#129
youtube plz sc4all is killing me >_________<!!
We Are The Swarm
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
April 18 2009 04:57 GMT
#130
I'm wondering what song its the one that comes out in the opening video, could someone help me on this, maybe its their own synthesized song, dunno, would appreciate any help.

Not sure that cocky attutiude is good, makes him seem like a bad sportsmanship, he needs to realize its more of a profession than a pastime to play video games competitively.
Obama singing "Kick Ass" Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedde
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
April 18 2009 05:24 GMT
#131
Everyone was enraged at Idra for the bad manner game with Strelok...now I look in this thread and so many love it? wtf is going on?
toopham
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States551 Posts
April 18 2009 05:30 GMT
#132
HAHAHAHAH

I Literraly LMAO 2nd game on Medusa
HAHAHAHHAHA
Artosis:" anddddd _____ gg"
Tasteless: "ooookkkk. on to next game.."
DIE!!!
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 05:41:38
April 18 2009 05:32 GMT
#133
On April 18 2009 13:57 thoraxe wrote:
I'm wondering what song its the one that comes out in the opening video, could someone help me on this, maybe its their own synthesized song, dunno, would appreciate any help.

Not sure that cocky attutiude is good, makes him seem like a bad sportsmanship, he needs to realize its more of a profession than a pastime to play video games competitively.


heh, I thought the same thing.

From the matrix movie soundtrack. Lobby scene I think.

Nah... on second thought probably the car chase scene from the 2nd one
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
April 18 2009 05:42 GMT
#134
Man this series was hilarious. Idra's BM was pretty funny and then Artosis and Tastless's bashing Idra cause his BM was shitty and that their BM was much better was just icing on the cake. XD
^______________^
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
April 18 2009 05:58 GMT
#135
+ Show Spoiler +
seriously what the hell at the second game? What was idra trying to do?
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
April 18 2009 05:59 GMT
#136
On April 18 2009 14:32 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 13:57 thoraxe wrote:
I'm wondering what song its the one that comes out in the opening video, could someone help me on this, maybe its their own synthesized song, dunno, would appreciate any help.

Not sure that cocky attutiude is good, makes him seem like a bad sportsmanship, he needs to realize its more of a profession than a pastime to play video games competitively.


heh, I thought the same thing.

From the matrix movie soundtrack. Lobby scene I think.

Nah... on second thought probably the car chase scene from the 2nd one




this is it right?
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Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 06:04:25
April 18 2009 06:03 GMT
#137
Tasteless and Artosis' commentary really turned Idra's BM into a huge comedy, I just watched game 3 and it was so fucking hilarious

Song is called Mona Lisa Overdrive I believe
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Padrino.tQ
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada51 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 06:06:44
April 18 2009 06:06 GMT
#138
I don't get why we are forced to watch the videos on that shitty website that won't load properly. I guess I won't see the games. Learn to have a reliable website to load the video on instead of censoring people trying to give alternatives.
Padrino.tQ
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada51 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 06:09:41
April 18 2009 06:09 GMT
#139
And I'm not downloading any program to see these videos. Fuck this fascist website.
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
April 18 2009 06:11 GMT
#140
After watching these, IdrA is my favorite foreigner terran ATM heh.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
April 18 2009 06:17 GMT
#141
On April 18 2009 15:09 Padrino.tQ wrote:
And I'm not downloading any program to see these videos. Fuck this fascist website.


Do you even know what fascism is?
Shut up, they are already aware of the problem and are trying to fix it.

I remember you for flaming Jiiks about his stream, you are an ass.
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
April 18 2009 06:54 GMT
#142
are you kidding gtr? scforall fits every definition of fascist!!!!!
Entusman #12
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
April 18 2009 06:58 GMT
#143
no it isnt, because its their property, they made the video, thus they can do with it as they please.
wraiths go pew pew
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 08:45:08
April 18 2009 08:02 GMT
#144
Did idra in second game on medusa send a early scv because he thought fenix would do some sortof no gate double nexus build?

artosis 1-0 bisu haha

"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
April 18 2009 08:30 GMT
#145
na, he was likely going for some sort of bbs. or cheese
wraiths go pew pew
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
April 18 2009 08:46 GMT
#146
planning on doing some bbs/8 rax build because he thought fenix would do a 12 nexus build because toss either go 10/15 or 12 nexus on the map but since his scv got scouted so early he had to change his plan.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
April 18 2009 08:56 GMT
#147
youtubeit pleae .. d/l is too slow
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1080 Posts
April 18 2009 09:21 GMT
#148
constructive criticism: change videohost/videosoftware. your current shit is fucking slow.
mostly harmless
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 18 2009 09:24 GMT
#149
So when are the videos going to be uploaded to the tracker?
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 09:37:52
April 18 2009 09:28 GMT
#150
Awesome commentary! And gotta love IdrA.
觀過斯知仁矣.
exkgb
Profile Joined September 2005
United States504 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 09:37:08
April 18 2009 09:32 GMT
#151
As a mac user who has no way of watching these VODs smoothly, I'll post a little tutorial on how to grab them without using a 3rd party tool such as Orbit..etc which are not available on macs. However the method detailed works for windows / linux too.

First go to the SCForallPage where the video is hosted ( so they get their page hit ): for example

http://www.scforall.com/sctv/sc_tv01.asp?mNum=s03&movNum=276

In Firefox/Safari, right click -> View Page Source

in the source, do a search for ( cmd+F) ".flv"

you'll see something like this:

so.addVariable('file','http://vodh1.afreeca.com/PL_xxxxxxxxxxx/xxxxxxxxxxxxx.flv' ) ;

where the xxxxx portion is the path and filename of the VOD which I have obscured since direct linking is not allowed here.

now simply paste the "http:///vodh1.xxxxx...xx.flv" portion into your browser window and you can download it to watch later using VLC/WMP..etc

DalfiusWL
Profile Joined January 2009
New Zealand47 Posts
April 18 2009 09:53 GMT
#152
seriously!!! you shouldnt even post this without youtube links, your site is sooooo slow to download off... its actually rediculous.....
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
April 18 2009 10:52 GMT
#153
the content of scforall is very good, but the problem is, that most of the people here are not able to really enjoy it. i know that i'm the 500th here complaining about this, but the page is so ridiculously slow that i simply can't watch anything hosted there.
i appreciate your work and all the efforts you do there to provide a good starcraft coverage. you guys rule, hands down. but the way it is brought (or not) to the community just sucks. that is really sad because the site and all you guys working behind it have so much potential. just get that handeled and you'll kick ass big time.
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HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 11:21:27
April 18 2009 11:20 GMT
#154
CAN PEOPLE STOP WHINING? It's FREE it's GOOD and you all is whining about it. Grow some manners seriously. If you can't enjoy it right away then learn to wait for it. You are just destroying for everyone else that appreciate their work and effort. So please just close your jabbers please.
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 18 2009 11:24 GMT
#155
On April 18 2009 20:20 Lobbo wrote:
CAN PEOPLE STOP WHINING? It's FREE it's GOOD and you all is whining about it. Grow some manners seriously. If you can't enjoy it right away then learn to wait for it. You are just destroying for everyone else that appreciate their work and effort. So please just close your jabbers please.

I feel you man.
The only flaw Artosis made was telling everyone before the Youtube links were up!
If he'd waited a week no-one would be complaining, yet here is he giving you a choice to view it earlier and people are going nuts.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
April 18 2009 11:31 GMT
#156
On April 18 2009 20:20 Lobbo wrote:
CAN PEOPLE STOP WHINING? It's FREE it's GOOD and you all is whining about it. Grow some manners seriously. If you can't enjoy it right away then learn to wait for it. You are just destroying for everyone else that appreciate their work and effort. So please just close your jabbers please.


You see, complaining about a service (even if it's for free) is feedback and feedback is always positive to help improve it. If no one complained because "they had manners" the service providers wouldn't know about the problems that many users suffer from and so nothing would be done to fix them
We are not insulting them, just pointing out some flaws that should be fixed for the benefit of all.
Freedom is a stranger
ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 11:45:40
April 18 2009 11:45 GMT
#157
Um, I just opened the 4 games....went out for some food, and when I got back it was all loaded. Just have some patience yea?

Great series, and Idra's bm makes it a lot of fun to watch, icing on the cake!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 11:46:21
April 18 2009 11:45 GMT
#158
Nice matches, thanks Artosis and Nick for doing commentatory~
2nd game - pimpest plays 09 imo.
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
April 18 2009 12:00 GMT
#159
On April 18 2009 20:45 ktp wrote:
Um, I just opened the 4 games....went out for some food, and when I got back it was all loaded. Just have some patience yea?

Great series, and Idra's bm makes it a lot of fun to watch, icing on the cake!


but you see, some people do that, they open and let it load, the full video loads, and you start watching, then just randomly at 1 point it stops playing, even though its fully loaded, so patience wont help much.
And about it being free, a lot of good that does me if I CANT WATCH IT.
A lot of these comments that might seem rude are coming from the fact that people really love these videos and wanna watch them but cant, I know i get pissed off when i see new vids up at sc4all and i know they have great content but i cant watch them.

I just want the youtube uploads to come fast, i love you guys <3 but your server is killing me.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 18 2009 12:19 GMT
#160
I don't have any insight to the relationship between Artosis and his website hosts, but being that he is living in Korea and producing content like this I have to assume some of the cost of that is covered by this company. As such he is expected to give them traffic to their site in order to justify keeping him there.

So trying to watch the games on their site helps Artosis in the end.

Also, installing orbit and using that not only helps you with this site, but it helps you download all flv files like youtube, etc. So it's a nice program
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 18 2009 12:20 GMT
#161
when will be this uploaded to youtube? i really tried with scforall, the VODs crashes after a couple minutes, so the only VOD i could watch was the Medusa game
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 18 2009 12:32 GMT
#162
On April 18 2009 10:39 Rice wrote:
idra is such a great troll, who else can get people so worked up with one-liners.

props to idra


Haha as if hes trolling and not genuinely getting angry
Lq_ fAn
Profile Joined June 2007
Lithuania154 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 12:43:16
April 18 2009 12:41 GMT
#163
someone who downloaded videos can upload to youtube . my upload speed is low so not me

hey what do you guys think about youtube account for scforall? .I know they have but not many videos and they upload very late
DooMeR
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1519 Posts
April 18 2009 13:31 GMT
#164
On April 18 2009 02:29 floor exercise wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/index.php?currentpage=40

http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/download.php?replay=566

"bulldog[tc] using bulldog build". I can't believe people forget the origin of the build when every single goon attack is called a bulldog these days

I mean I'm sure someone has built 3 gates before expo and used mass goons with zealot shuttle attacks, but the build was named after the korean player Bulldog[tC] it can't really be denied he was the one who popularized it/made it his signature build.




SEE TASTELESS AND ARTOSIS EAT IT lol

now i get a shoutout plz
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
April 18 2009 15:14 GMT
#165
hmm, these vods seem to be from Afreeca. So it's not scforall server after all?
Marines > everything
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
April 18 2009 15:23 GMT
#166
On April 18 2009 21:32 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 10:39 Rice wrote:
idra is such a great troll, who else can get people so worked up with one-liners.

props to idra


Haha as if hes trolling and not genuinely getting angry

Why would he be angry if he deflected a rush?
Jaedong
exkgb
Profile Joined September 2005
United States504 Posts
April 18 2009 16:11 GMT
#167
On April 19 2009 00:14 vnlegend wrote:
hmm, these vods seem to be from Afreeca. So it's not scforall server after all?


they use afreeca as their VOD host.

Maybe i'll write a little ultility specific to starcraft to make it easier to download VODs from scforall, gomtv..etc.. what do you guys think?
lordmordor
Profile Joined February 2009
United States209 Posts
April 18 2009 16:16 GMT
#168
can someone post a spoiler of Idra's best BM moments for these games! I want in on the fun
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
April 18 2009 16:35 GMT
#169
On April 19 2009 01:16 lordmordor wrote:
can someone post a spoiler of Idra's best BM moments for these games! I want in on the fun

+ Show Spoiler +

game 2: idra tries to do some cheese on Medusa, probe sees scv, and then probe steals the gas. idra ggs 2 minutes into the game
game 3: after 2 failed pushes, idra's way behind and fenix is on 5 bases and pushing idra back into his base. says "youre so bad" aftering losing the majority of his army
game 4: idra spots fenix's proxy gate, kills it before zealot comes out, says, "youre gosu", idra proceeds to do 6 fact push, after fenix's army dies to tank fire and mines, idra offensive ggs
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
April 18 2009 16:35 GMT
#170
On April 19 2009 01:16 lordmordor wrote:
can someone post a spoiler of Idra's best BM moments for these games! I want in on the fun


+ Show Spoiler +
Game 4:
fenix does a one gate proxi outside of Idra's nat, Idra figures that out because the probe was in his base too early, so he moves out 6 or 7 scv's to kill the gate. He kills the gate like 0.5 secs before the zealot was finished..... comment from idra: "you're so gosu"

Then in the end of that idra said: "gg" after a failed attack of fenix......


im so sorry for fenix, i think he is a really ambitious and motivated player who is always nice and gm. he really deserved to win. Why isn't there a rule like in kespa ("gg" = admit of defeat = loss)
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
April 18 2009 16:51 GMT
#171
On April 18 2009 02:29 floor exercise wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/index.php?currentpage=40

http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/download.php?replay=566

"bulldog[tc] using bulldog build". I can't believe people forget the origin of the build when every single goon attack is called a bulldog these days

I mean I'm sure someone has built 3 gates before expo and used mass goons with zealot shuttle attacks, but the build was named after the korean player Bulldog[tC] it can't really be denied he was the one who popularized it/made it his signature build.


dude !!! you linked the wrong rep man
its 565 !!!!

I just watched it and bulldog is a fucking terran, while protoss goes fast dt.
i was like "WTFWTFWTF WHERE IS THE FUCKING BULLDOG HERE? this floor dude in the forums is a total dumbass."
seriously....i was really angry at you lol
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 18 2009 17:00 GMT
#172
Yeah, but this ain't kespa no more.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 18 2009 17:48 GMT
#173
are we dere yet? youtube?
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 17:57:27
April 18 2009 17:52 GMT
#174
I'll upload if no one else will.

It shouldn't take too long, I have good upload speed here.

10 minutes until my download of the .flvs is completed.

When I get back from breakfast in half an hour or so, they should be pretty much uploaded.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 18 2009 17:53 GMT
#175
On April 19 2009 02:52 scwizard wrote:
I'll upload if no one else will.

It shouldn't take too long, I have good upload speed here.

10 minutes until my download of the .flvs is completed.


You shouldn't do this - SCForAll owns the videos, and if they want to put them up on YouTube they will. Artosis has already asked people not to direct link to the .flvs, downloading them and hosting them at YouTube is worse than that in terms of SCForAll's pageviews.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 17:54:28
April 18 2009 17:54 GMT
#176
On April 19 2009 02:52 scwizard wrote:
I'll upload if no one else will.

It shouldn't take too long, I have good upload speed here.

10 minutes until my download of the .flvs is completed.

ahhh getting impatient
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 18:09:35
April 18 2009 17:58 GMT
#177
On April 19 2009 02:53 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 02:52 scwizard wrote:
I'll upload if no one else will.

It shouldn't take too long, I have good upload speed here.

10 minutes until my download of the .flvs is completed.


You shouldn't do this - SCForAll owns the videos, and if they want to put them up on YouTube they will. Artosis has already asked people not to direct link to the .flvs, downloading them and hosting them at YouTube is worse than that in terms of SCForAll's pageviews.

Bullshit. Making entertaining videos readily available will spur interest in SCForAll.

EDIT: Third video is uploading.

EDIT: Videos are uploaded, are processing, should appear on my channel shortly: http://www.youtube.com/user/scwizard

I'm going to go get some brunch now.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 18:34:00
April 18 2009 18:33 GMT
#178
On April 19 2009 02:58 scwizard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 02:53 JWD wrote:
On April 19 2009 02:52 scwizard wrote:
I'll upload if no one else will.

It shouldn't take too long, I have good upload speed here.

10 minutes until my download of the .flvs is completed.


You shouldn't do this - SCForAll owns the videos, and if they want to put them up on YouTube they will. Artosis has already asked people not to direct link to the .flvs, downloading them and hosting them at YouTube is worse than that in terms of SCForAll's pageviews.

Bullshit. Making entertaining videos readily available will spur interest in SCForAll.


...or it will just drive people to your YouTube page instead of SCForAll...

Look, I understand you are trying to help people watch these games, but Artosis specifically asked us not to direct link the .flvs in this topic. I don't see how linking YouTube-hosted .flvs is any better. Because Artosis made these videos and is such a great contributor here, you should respect his wishes.
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 10:52:09
April 18 2009 18:51 GMT
#179
If he asks me personally to take them down, I probably will.

Aww, scratch that, 10 minute jewtube rule, forgot

So yeah no videos until I split them.

EDIT: ok splitted

*links removed by owners request*
- FrozenArbiter
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
April 18 2009 19:14 GMT
#180
Well, having watched the games,
+ Show Spoiler +
I was kind of disappointed. This was definitely not on the "you skilless newbie" level. On the other hand, Artosis and Tasteless were fun to listen to. They're like a gossip column, talking about people and snickering at them.

The other thing is that the SCForAll videos (from Afreeca) seem to download faster and slower depending on time on day. I started to DL these around midnight Korea time (TL time) and it took 1.5 hrs for the first vid. Around 3am or so, the download was really fast, over 100KB/s. I guess the issue seems to be the bandwidth available from Afreeca. There's more for us when the Koreans aren't using it. So there you go, visit SCForAll when the koreans are asleep (probably 0200 TL time to 1000).
Marines > everything
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
April 18 2009 19:50 GMT
#181
enjoy your ban scwizard.
~
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
April 18 2009 19:53 GMT
#182
On April 19 2009 04:50 Lachrymose wrote:
enjoy your ban scwizard.

mod wanna-be?

anyway, always nice to see some bm by Idra, but commentatry quality>game quality in these particular series.Dunno if Nick and Artosis were too good or games just sucked
thanks once again for doing this~~
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 20:00:20
April 18 2009 19:59 GMT
#183
On April 19 2009 04:53 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 04:50 Lachrymose wrote:
enjoy your ban scwizard.

mod wanna-be?

anyway, always nice to see some bm by Idra, but commentatry quality>game quality in these particular series.Dunno if Nick and Artosis were too good or games just sucked
thanks once again for doing this~~


hardly. the last person to reupload the games had the links stripped out of his post and was told if he re-linked them he would be banned. scwizard has chosen to upload them despite several people telling him not to, i think its pretty obvious what is coming next.

scwizard; they are not looking to "spur interest", they are looking for numbers on hit-counters, both on scforall and youtube when they upload them. you uploading them somewhere else lowers their hits.
~
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 18 2009 20:11 GMT
#184
Hm, the last person didn't re-upload the games I think? Wasn't he just providing a direct download source?

As far as I can tell this isn't the same as re-uploading them to youtube, but if I'm wrong I'll edit Wizard's post.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 20:27:40
April 18 2009 20:15 GMT
#185
Yeah, I'd interpret it as a bandwidth stealing issue. If everyone is ddling the videos, then they're bandwidth is going to spike, but they're not going to make anything off that.

As I said, if Artosis tells me to take down the videos I will.

@Lachrymose: back seat moderating is frowned upon. Let FrozenArbiter do the talking for the mods.

EDIT: All the videos are up now
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 18 2009 20:45 GMT
#186
On April 19 2009 04:50 Lachrymose wrote:
enjoy your ban scwizard.


I wish...
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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 21:09:27
April 18 2009 21:08 GMT
#187
just watched

+ Show Spoiler +


those were good games and artosis/tasteless delivered as commentators once again

and idra delivered as bm once again. i'd almost be disappointed if he didn't shoot one insult at his opponent. frankly, it makes it more fun that way.
:O
Sayara
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland42 Posts
April 18 2009 21:09 GMT
#188
Watching these now, but dear lord it's confusing how audio comes several seconds after the action on screen.
Girl saying you're nice means, that she won't sleep with you, but dumps all her emotional problems on you while you're healing the main tank in UBRS.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 18 2009 21:37 GMT
#189
God i fucking love idra

"youre gosu"

#1 Idra fan
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7883 Posts
April 18 2009 21:53 GMT
#190
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote:
God i fucking love idra

"youre gosu"

#1 Idra fan

Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.

IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
April 18 2009 22:03 GMT
#191
lol @ game two
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
April 18 2009 22:05 GMT
#192
On April 18 2009 21:32 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 10:39 Rice wrote:
idra is such a great troll, who else can get people so worked up with one-liners.

props to idra


Haha as if hes trolling and not genuinely getting angry


yeah im sure he was steaming with anger when he killed fenix's gateway and with the offensive gg...
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
April 18 2009 22:05 GMT
#193
On April 19 2009 06:53 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote:
God i fucking love idra

"youre gosu"

#1 Idra fan

Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.

IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.


you can't tell me it's not fun to watch him play

rarely do you have such insight into a player's personality. even if it is ugly, i'm somewhat happy to see someone have no qualms about being a complete jackass. i hope he keeps playing for a long time.
:O
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
April 18 2009 22:10 GMT
#194
On April 19 2009 06:53 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote:
God i fucking love idra

"youre gosu"

#1 Idra fan

Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.

IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.

fully agreed
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 18 2009 22:20 GMT
#195
But its entertaining, and frankly,I watch SC to be entertained.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 18 2009 22:28 GMT
#196
On April 19 2009 07:10 ilj.psa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 06:53 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote:
God i fucking love idra

"youre gosu"

#1 Idra fan

Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.

IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.

fully agreed

Jealous imo.

He's like the most fun foreigner to watch i mean seriously who else tells someone to GG when they've lost.
i mean really
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 18 2009 22:33 GMT
#197
On April 19 2009 06:53 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote:
God i fucking love idra

"youre gosu"

#1 Idra fan

Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.

IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.

What the fuck is wrong with you?
He is out there entertaining the SC community and you wanna bitch about minor flaws in his personality?

You're comments are either WAY too harsh or you're trolling. Both of which should get you banned.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
April 18 2009 22:34 GMT
#198
Games were fun, Idra BM adds a good amount of spice to the series. He's like the Ty Cobb of SC. Some people find it funny, some don't. I just like seeing some personality, it reminds me that I'm not watching robots play.

Now all we need is some super-manner player. Someone who after killing a proxy gate would say "Don't feel bad guy! You're still in this! :D" instead of "you're so gosu."

And scwizard... That's seriously not cool. It's been said, but those vids are property of SCforAll and Artosis has asked to not have them direct linked. It's nice that you're trying to make the vids available to people, but you know he is going to ask you to take them down, so why do it? The reason they aren't immediately put up on YouTube is so SCforAll can get some hits and you're just completely undermining what Artosis is doing.

If anyone has trouble watching the vids, for god's sake, just download Orbit and DL the damn things already. SCforAll gets the hits, you get the videos in a couple minutes, everybody wins.

JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
April 18 2009 22:40 GMT
#199
tbh I'm loling hard at the people SO ENRAGED by what IdrA says in a game that they hope his career fails in Korea. why u mad
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iccup.BeasTy
Profile Joined March 2009
United States39 Posts
April 18 2009 22:53 GMT
#200
game 2 is epic
;o
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
April 18 2009 22:53 GMT
#201
Idra is a douche. No respect for him.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 18 2009 23:06 GMT
#202
On April 19 2009 06:53 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote:
God i fucking love idra

"youre gosu"

#1 Idra fan

Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.

IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.

Idra is a good player who worked hard to get as good as he did. So ya he deserves sucess. He doesn't deserve to be well liked due to his behavior.. and he isn't He could probably care less.

All is in the balance...no need for such hate People are assholes because they don't care what anyone thinks of them, and nobody cares about assholes for the same reason.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
iccup.BeasTy
Profile Joined March 2009
United States39 Posts
April 18 2009 23:12 GMT
#203
rofl your so bad
;o
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
April 18 2009 23:24 GMT
#204
On April 19 2009 07:10 ilj.psa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 06:53 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On April 19 2009 06:37 arb wrote:
God i fucking love idra

"youre gosu"

#1 Idra fan

Coming from a CJ programmer who continually fails to foreigners, that's quite tasty.

IdrA is the only player I really want to see failling hard in his career. Sounds awful, but I just can't stand his personality. This guy doesn't deserve any success.

fully agreed


Depends on your definition of success. If he enjoys the current life in Korea and enjoys being a low tier progamers, that's good for him. However, that looks like a failure to me.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
April 18 2009 23:28 GMT
#205
hahaha idra had my laughing so hard in game four

you're gosu.

and game 2 was hilarious.

awesome commentary..

"tons of arbiters just el oh el all over that"
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
April 18 2009 23:44 GMT
#206
What the fuck is wrong with you Idra? You even start trashtalking on the rare occasion that you're winning a game!?
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 10:51:41
April 18 2009 23:53 GMT
#207
On April 19 2009 03:51 scwizard wrote:
If he asks me personally to take them down, I probably will.

Aww, scratch that, 10 minute jewtube rule, forgot

So yeah no videos until I split them.

EDIT: ok splitted
*links removed by owners request*
- FrozenArbiter

just figure out the Orbit thing its not that difficult
Beside_kr
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada902 Posts
April 18 2009 23:54 GMT
#208
IdrA is awesome, BW needs villains or there wouldn't be near the drama. I love it, I wouldn't even care if I was the one playing him, he's hilarious
Cuffs, cuffs, you can't break those cuffs
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
April 18 2009 23:55 GMT
#209
On April 19 2009 08:53 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 03:51 scwizard wrote:
If he asks me personally to take them down, I probably will.

Aww, scratch that, 10 minute jewtube rule, forgot

So yeah no videos until I split them.

EDIT: ok splitted

Game 1 part 1: + Show Spoiler +

Game 1 part 2: + Show Spoiler +

Game 1 part 3: + Show Spoiler +

Game 2 part 1: + Show Spoiler +

Game 3 part 1: + Show Spoiler +

Game 3 part 2: + Show Spoiler +

Game 4 part 1: + Show Spoiler +

Game 4 part 2: + Show Spoiler +

Game 4 part 3: + Show Spoiler +

just figure out the Orbit thing its not that difficult

??
Liquid | SKT
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
April 18 2009 23:57 GMT
#210
On April 19 2009 07:05 choboPEon wrote:

you can't tell me it's not fun to watch him play

rarely do you have such insight into a player's personality. even if it is ugly, i'm somewhat happy to see someone have no qualms about being a complete jackass. i hope he keeps playing for a long time.


This. ^^

I just watched that game again just for the bm. Entertainment++.
觀過斯知仁矣.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
April 19 2009 00:17 GMT
#211
On April 19 2009 08:44 Mooncat wrote:
What the fuck is wrong with you Idra? You even start trashtalking on the rare occasion that you're winning a game!?


Why does everyone find something wrong with trash talking. It makes for interesting reactions like this I guess. But his trash talking is enjoyable it's not like he's all 'eff ur mother' or something.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 19 2009 00:38 GMT
#212
On April 19 2009 05:45 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 04:50 Lachrymose wrote:
enjoy your ban scwizard.


I wish...

What do you have against me? Are you that upset that I uploaded these videos?
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
April 19 2009 00:46 GMT
#213
Fie Nal Lee~~

now i can watch these wonderful series with no lag^^

cheers scwizard~
Why So Serious?!
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 00:47:52
April 19 2009 00:47 GMT
#214
He didn't direct link it. He just uploaded it on Youtube. Not sure if that's ok with Artosis but I appreciate it... If that's not ok he should take them down though.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
April 19 2009 00:51 GMT
#215
On April 19 2009 07:53 FortuneSyn wrote:
Idra is a douche. No respect for him.

Comments like these are just flame bait. People either hate him or like him, but he is a skilled player and needs to be respected as such.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
April 19 2009 00:53 GMT
#216
Thanks a lot Artosis and Tasteless for doing awesome commentating! :D
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
April 19 2009 00:53 GMT
#217
On April 19 2009 09:51 deathgod6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 07:53 FortuneSyn wrote:
Idra is a douche. No respect for him.

Comments like these are just flame bait. People either hate him or like him, but he is a skilled player and needs to be respected as such.


How does he need to be RESPECTED as such? I'm sure nobody calling him an asswipe thinks he's bad; acknowledgment and respect do not go hand in hand.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
April 19 2009 01:07 GMT
#218
On April 19 2009 09:53 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 09:51 deathgod6 wrote:
On April 19 2009 07:53 FortuneSyn wrote:
Idra is a douche. No respect for him.

Comments like these are just flame bait. People either hate him or like him, but he is a skilled player and needs to be respected as such.


How does he need to be RESPECTED as such? I'm sure nobody calling him an asswipe thinks he's bad; acknowledgment and respect do not go hand in hand.

You obviously have not read their comments then.
" I'm sure nobody calling him an asswipe thinks he's bad"
lololol
Jaedong
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
April 19 2009 01:17 GMT
#219
"lolololol"

Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 19 2009 01:23 GMT
#220
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
"lolololol"

Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.

Yeah they do, have you never seen anyone from europe insult idra?
Use YOUR brain, turd.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
April 19 2009 01:42 GMT
#221
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
"lolololol"

Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.

Um, stop insulting people as soon as you get unbanned. I'm pretty sure they think it, hate clouds people's judgements.
Jaedong
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 19 2009 01:59 GMT
#222
pfff. I don't mind a bit of bm, but I can't stand the 'gg' before your opponent does it. That's just petty and small. GL to IdrA anyways, I still want the only non-Korean pro to make it.
nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
April 19 2009 02:04 GMT
#223
if you say idra deserves respect for being a good player, then surely these other foreigner players deserve a bit too. you may call it fun and games but at the end of the day its just rude behaviour
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
April 19 2009 02:10 GMT
#224
Yes, but people are overreacting to it.
Jaedong
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 19 2009 02:51 GMT
#225
tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.

But still its hilarious "rofl, youre so bad"
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Zerg Zergling
Profile Joined September 2008
United States24 Posts
April 19 2009 03:00 GMT
#226
was there supposed to be 4 or 5 games?
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
April 19 2009 03:20 GMT
#227
Idra had a free game for being in the winner's bracket, so four games.
Jaedong
Red9
Profile Joined May 2008
United States64 Posts
April 19 2009 03:46 GMT
#228
wow the videos are horrible on this website now with constant buffering. i used to be able to watch them no problem.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 10:52:39
April 19 2009 03:57 GMT
#229
On April 19 2009 12:46 Red9 wrote:
wow the videos are horrible on this website now with constant buffering. i used to be able to watch them no problem.

The videos are uploaded to youtube:

On April 19 2009 03:51 scwizard wrote:
*links removed by owners request*
- FrozenArbiter

Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
April 19 2009 04:10 GMT
#230
I just wanted to say AWSOME job to artosis and tasteless thats some of the best commentating i've ever heard, very informative and professional. Although i don't watch a lot of vods they kept me interested
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 04:52:25
April 19 2009 04:48 GMT
#231
On April 19 2009 10:23 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
"lolololol"

Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.

Yeah they do, have you never seen anyone from europe insult idra?
Use YOUR brain, turd.


Is this a difficult concept for you? Honestly? Reread what I said. Stop replying to shit I write just because you hold some retarded grudge from whenever the fuck I said something to you that made you angry and instigated your current stalking of my posts.

On April 19 2009 10:42 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
"lolololol"

Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.

Um, stop insulting people as soon as you get unbanned. I'm pretty sure they think it, hate clouds people's judgements.


Well, I'm pretty sure they don't think it. Therein lies the difficulty of the situation, hmm? There's no way to say what they truly think nor to differentiate it from what is written. However, suffice it to say that it would be extremely unlikely that anyone bashing Idra as "bad" thinks he actually is bad given that he has beaten everyone in the foreign scene and is capable of beating everyone despite his losses recently. Were they to truly think he was bad, they'd have to admit all the people they are defending are bad too. I suppose it's possible they might, but then it would be an argument of proportion and would just be stupid, since everyone but the absolute top progamers would be "bad." Thus, I'd say my conclusion that while people may say he is bad but do not honestly think it, yet say it because they dislike him, is probably more correct than yours. It's stupid and quite unlikely that they truly think he is bad, only that he is a dickhead, which he is.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10004 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 05:12:25
April 19 2009 05:11 GMT
#232
watch out it looks like noobsofwrath is going for another all nighter, he took 10 shots of coffee and pulled his bw blackbook out to take note and respond to everything
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
April 19 2009 05:31 GMT
#233
On April 19 2009 08:44 Mooncat wrote:
What the fuck is wrong with you Idra? You even start trashtalking on the rare occasion that you're winning a game!?


yeah idra must very rarely win games, thats why hes a progamer n stuff
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
April 19 2009 05:36 GMT
#234
I WANT NONY BACK!!!!!!!!! boo idra
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
April 19 2009 06:03 GMT
#235
On April 19 2009 14:11 iamtt1 wrote:
watch out it looks like noobsofwrath is going for another all nighter, he took 10 shots of coffee and pulled his bw blackbook out to take note and respond to everything

hahah
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
April 19 2009 06:08 GMT
#236
On April 19 2009 13:48 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 10:23 arb wrote:
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
"lolololol"

Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.

Yeah they do, have you never seen anyone from europe insult idra?
Use YOUR brain, turd.


Is this a difficult concept for you? Honestly? Reread what I said. Stop replying to shit I write just because you hold some retarded grudge from whenever the fuck I said something to you that made you angry and instigated your current stalking of my posts.

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 10:42 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On April 19 2009 10:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
"lolololol"

Use your brain, turd. They may call him bad out loud, but they don't literally THINK it.

Um, stop insulting people as soon as you get unbanned. I'm pretty sure they think it, hate clouds people's judgements.


Well, I'm pretty sure they don't think it. Therein lies the difficulty of the situation, hmm? There's no way to say what they truly think nor to differentiate it from what is written. However, suffice it to say that it would be extremely unlikely that anyone bashing Idra as "bad" thinks he actually is bad given that he has beaten everyone in the foreign scene and is capable of beating everyone despite his losses recently. Were they to truly think he was bad, they'd have to admit all the people they are defending are bad too. I suppose it's possible they might, but then it would be an argument of proportion and would just be stupid, since everyone but the absolute top progamers would be "bad." Thus, I'd say my conclusion that while people may say he is bad but do not honestly think it, yet say it because they dislike him, is probably more correct than yours. It's stupid and quite unlikely that they truly think he is bad, only that he is a dickhead, which he is.

How can people truly think IdrA is bad then?
If they always say that he is bad, then are they going to respect IdrA in their minds, and acknowledge that he is good mentally?
I don't think so, they'll probably think that he is bad in their heads as well. The other option is too painful.
Also:
"There's no way to say what they truly think nor to differentiate it from what is written."
If you feel that way, this is a pointless debate.
Jaedong
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 19 2009 06:31 GMT
#237
so where's game 1? the real game 1
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
April 19 2009 06:38 GMT
#238
On April 19 2009 15:31 Kentor wrote:
so where's game 1? the real game 1

IdrA gets free game from being in the winner's bracket.
Jaedong
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
April 19 2009 07:05 GMT
#239
Boy how I love the threads that Idra's BM creates.

Keep going man, don't let these hater nerdlings stop you from being a dick. Some people just deserve to be BM'd haha.
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systranerror
Profile Joined November 2008
United States27 Posts
April 19 2009 07:58 GMT
#240
Idra seriously thinks he's like king of the nerds.

"Heh. Look at this pleb from South America, non-korean arbiter control is so inferior to my losing round of 128 B team korean nerd-raging. *strokes butt-chin and types whiney insult*"
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
April 19 2009 10:11 GMT
#241
loved the BM :p feels good killing a proxy then throwing it in protoss's face. It's all a game anyways, including the psychology.

+ Show Spoiler +
very close call with the scvs on the gateway tho
Sup
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
April 19 2009 14:30 GMT
#242
They're up on youtube now it seems. Here's part 1 of game 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov0Eyje9XCk
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
April 19 2009 15:31 GMT
#243
On April 19 2009 16:58 systranerror wrote:
Idra seriously thinks he's like king of the nerds.

"Heh. Look at this pleb from South America, non-korean arbiter control is so inferior to my losing round of 128 B team korean nerd-raging. *strokes butt-chin and types whiney insult*"


Trap is A team actually
im gay
uSiN
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 17:56:02
April 19 2009 17:55 GMT
#244
Idra's is good but with his attitude and BM i don't see him going anywhere. Keeping your cool when your frustrated is key part of a lot of sports. But then again thats what you expect from an American. They think their the shit and their not.

Sweet Bday Icon. xD
.-.
systranerror
Profile Joined November 2008
United States27 Posts
April 19 2009 19:46 GMT
#245
On April 20 2009 00:31 whatusername wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 16:58 systranerror wrote:
Idra seriously thinks he's like king of the nerds.

"Heh. Look at this pleb from South America, non-korean arbiter control is so inferior to my losing round of 128 B team korean nerd-raging. *strokes butt-chin and types whiney insult*"


Trap is A team actually


I meant Idra is B team not Trap :p

Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 20:05:34
April 19 2009 20:03 GMT
#246
Idra is a very good player, but after so many BM, I completely lost all my respect for him.
Game 1 was pretty good.
Artosis + Tasteless = Win. Keep it up guys.
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
April 19 2009 21:33 GMT
#247
i don't see why he isn't punish for that.
ie. in soccer, if you insult the referee or another player then you get a punsihment too.
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
April 19 2009 21:40 GMT
#248
On April 20 2009 02:55 uSiN wrote:
Idra's is good but with his attitude and BM i don't see him going anywhere. Keeping your cool when your frustrated is key part of a lot of sports. But then again thats what you expect from an American. They think their the shit and their not.

Sweet Bday Icon. xD



what does ANYTHING have to do with Idra's nationality?
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
April 20 2009 00:08 GMT
#249
On April 20 2009 06:33 MasterReY wrote:
i don't see why he isn't punish for that.
ie. in soccer, if you insult the referee or another player then you get a punsihment too.


QFT

Btw.: I'd have loved to see how this series had played out without Idra's auto-win from the winners' bracket... Basically it was 2-2 after game 4.


"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
April 20 2009 00:12 GMT
#250
LAGG wow youtube it lol
the throws never bothered me anyway
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
April 20 2009 03:16 GMT
#251
On April 20 2009 02:55 uSiN wrote:
Idra's is good but with his attitude and BM i don't see him going anywhere. Keeping your cool when your frustrated is key part of a lot of sports. But then again thats what you expect from an American. They think their the shit and their not.

Sweet Bday Icon. xD


sup guys, I'm a bigot and I don't like Idra.

Enough sarcasm. I think it would work better if you were straight like that though.
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
April 20 2009 03:33 GMT
#252
On April 19 2009 11:51 arb wrote:
tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.

But still its hilarious "rofl, youre so bad"


aha you have no idea what he did to F91. You'd feel like punching him if you've seen what he did but at the very end of the day you'd think he's just a kid so there is no need to waste your time.
DalfiusWL
Profile Joined January 2009
New Zealand47 Posts
April 20 2009 03:44 GMT
#253
On April 20 2009 12:33 Ash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 11:51 arb wrote:
tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.

But still its hilarious "rofl, youre so bad"


aha you have no idea what he did to F91. You'd feel like punching him if you've seen what he did but at the very end of the day you'd think he's just a kid so there is no need to waste your time.


shut up
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 03:48:43
April 20 2009 03:47 GMT
#254
On April 20 2009 02:55 uSiN wrote:
Idra's is good but with his attitude and BM i don't see him going anywhere. Keeping your cool when your frustrated is key part of a lot of sports. But then again thats what you expect from an American. They think their the shit and their not.

Sweet Bday Icon. xD


it's true, we're pretty much all like idra
:O
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 03:56:07
April 20 2009 03:55 GMT
#255
On April 20 2009 12:33 Ash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2009 11:51 arb wrote:
tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.

But still its hilarious "rofl, youre so bad"


aha you have no idea what he did to F91. You'd feel like punching him if you've seen what he did but at the very end of the day you'd think he's just a kid so there is no need to waste your time.


Beware typing "F91" in a thread here, you'll draw a post from Ash almost immediately.
✌
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
April 20 2009 04:02 GMT
#256
On April 20 2009 12:55 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2009 12:33 Ash wrote:
On April 19 2009 11:51 arb wrote:
tbh i dont think Idra cares anymore and just does it for fun, why else would he do it here. he never did it for F91 but he did for fenix when he knew they were going to be releasing it to everyone.

But still its hilarious "rofl, youre so bad"


aha you have no idea what he did to F91. You'd feel like punching him if you've seen what he did but at the very end of the day you'd think he's just a kid so there is no need to waste your time.


Beware typing "F91" in a thread here, you'll draw a post from Ash almost immediately.


haha that's not true! I'm usually a lurker around.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
April 20 2009 04:04 GMT
#257
calm down ash
Entusman #12
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
April 20 2009 04:05 GMT
#258
CLAM DOWN
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
April 20 2009 04:06 GMT
#259
wtf I'm so gonna bang myself to the wall. save me!
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
April 20 2009 06:40 GMT
#260
YOUTUBE VIDEOS

Ok, YouTube videos are up. We are still working on solutions for the videos on the site, we might do something similar to what you see this time with the youtube videos in the future.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Beardfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States525 Posts
April 20 2009 06:47 GMT
#261
Lol Idra's such a dickkkk, kudos to Fenix for not retorting and keeping his cool.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
April 20 2009 06:51 GMT
#262
nice commentary by tasteless and artosis on some really bad games
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
April 20 2009 13:33 GMT
#263
that streaming video site sucked.
Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
April 20 2009 13:59 GMT
#264
On April 18 2009 00:33 Artosis wrote:
i've said plenty of times not to direct link to the vods. take that shit down ASAP.
if you want to orbit download it, feel free. but do not, i repeat, do not, download directly.
if you are too lazy to figure out orbit or let it load, then simply wait for the youtube videos.



GUESS WAT I JUS DID :O!!!
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
April 22 2009 09:32 GMT
#265
On April 20 2009 15:47 ButtFace wrote:
Lol Idra's such a dickkkk, kudos to Fenix for not retorting and keeping his cool.

Yes, Fenix acted rly adult...ly (?)
I would have loaded up my shuttle with probes and built pylons all over the map to take time to insult this little idra bitch :D
Just think about it: Idra sits in the CJ House, gets to train all day long with the best SC players there are, he is already in korea while it's a once-in-a-lifetime chance for Fenix to go there to participate in a professional tournament. That's BM taken to the peak. God Idra grow up, seriously.
Don't mess the fess!
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
April 22 2009 09:47 GMT
#266
lol if he used shuttles and built pylons all over the map that would be sooo bm. XD
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 22 2009 10:03 GMT
#267
how on earth do people assume fenix was polite
have you never talked to him before?
he was just smart enough not to say anything in the game
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FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
April 22 2009 10:24 GMT
#268
Yea well, it was at least one step better than you were able to manage.

On April 22 2009 19:03 IdrA wrote:
how on earth do people assume fenix was polite
have you never talked to him before?
he was just smart enough not to say anything in the game

Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10683 Posts
April 22 2009 10:25 GMT
#269
and this makes you...
Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
April 22 2009 11:08 GMT
#270
On April 22 2009 19:03 IdrA wrote:
how on earth do people assume fenix was polite
have you never talked to him before?
he was just smart enough not to say anything in the game


I see your point. The thing is: I didn't say much about Fenix. I don't know if he killed his dog with his keyboard immidiatly after the game because he was so angry. If he did I would tell him he acted stupid and should learn how to behave.

But I did see your childish behaviour and I got upset.
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 11:34:00
April 22 2009 11:25 GMT
#271
i don't know ESWC too well but isn't there a rule that 'gg' = surrender and therefore a loss for the player who said it?
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 22 2009 11:41 GMT
#272
On April 22 2009 19:03 IdrA wrote:
how on earth do people assume fenix was polite
have you never talked to him before?
he was just smart enough not to say anything in the game


I love how you always compare yourself to other people's lack of skills or lack of manners as if it somehow justifies anything you do.

LOL
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 22 2009 11:42 GMT
#273
i didnt compare myself to anything
a bunch of people were praising him for being mannered, he said he was gonna kill me
didnt really seem to make much sense

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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7883 Posts
April 22 2009 12:20 GMT
#274
On April 22 2009 19:03 IdrA wrote:
how on earth do people assume fenix was polite
have you never talked to him before?
he was just smart enough not to say anything in the game

lol

Why don't you shut up on this matter, dude?
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 22 2009 14:28 GMT
#275
when you play all day every day with pros theres really no excuse not to win so no point being a faggot about it
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
April 22 2009 15:08 GMT
#276
On April 22 2009 23:28 infinity2k9 wrote:
when you play all day every day with pros theres really no excuse not to win so no point being a faggot about it


That's actually a pretty good point..
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
April 23 2009 09:00 GMT
#277
Lol. I think there should be a feature to turn text chat off in competitive matches and just have a "GG" button instead. It would keep the whole thing more professional.
HyoRiN
Profile Joined June 2008
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 09:19:23
April 23 2009 09:12 GMT
#278
Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
April 23 2009 09:32 GMT
#279
On April 20 2009 15:40 Artosis wrote:
YOUTUBE VIDEOS

Ok, YouTube videos are up. We are still working on solutions for the videos on the site, we might do something similar to what you see this time with the youtube videos in the future.

cool thanks
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
April 23 2009 09:40 GMT
#280
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote:
Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player.


Exactly. It's all about the game, not the manners. So there should be no need for any in game comms anyway.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7883 Posts
April 23 2009 09:45 GMT
#281
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote:
Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not

lol

"It's better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not"

Too many Hollywood movies, man. Sounds like good american movie moral. Ok. Let's try another one:

"It's better to grow up, respect your opponent and yourself than to keep up being a rude immature douch."

There is a big difference between being mondane and going for nerd rage every two weeks in front of 10 000 people. MistrZZZ used to be quite bm, but it was humoristic and done in purpose. IdrA just can't control himself.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
April 23 2009 09:51 GMT
#282
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote:
Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not


That's deep man, i was moved.
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exkgb
Profile Joined September 2005
United States504 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 10:16:17
April 23 2009 10:12 GMT
#283
Wow, this thread is still going on.

Idra is the FBH of foreign starcraft, some loves him , some hates him but in the end he's a good player and he's hecka entertaining =) now... if only he'd dance......
HyoRiN
Profile Joined June 2008
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 10:24:18
April 23 2009 10:18 GMT
#284
On April 23 2009 18:51 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote:
Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not


That's deep man, i was moved.
+ Show Spoiler +
Not really, you're a moron.


Ever since Korea took SC to the professional level, the BM and GM shit has gone way too far. It's amazing how Starcraft has become so "serious" nowadays. "OMG he said GG before the game ended!!" This is obviously a big thing if some professional gamer did that in Korea. But wtf LOL ... What happened to the old days when video games were just games. Imho, everyone who went crazy over the bm really needs to lighten up. Don't let the social norms of Korea eat you up. I'm not saying it's bad, but come on just think about it ... who cares LOL!! It's not like he explicitly told Fenix that he sucks ass and that he lost a chance to go to Korea. That would be a different story ... Little things like the early GG make me giggle.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 10:27:55
April 23 2009 10:22 GMT
#285
On April 23 2009 19:12 exkgb wrote:
Wow, this thread is still going on.

Idra is the FBH of foreign starcraft, some loves him , some hates him but in the end he's a good player and he's hecka entertaining =) now... if only he'd dance......

Not at all. FBH is "funny". He makes ceremonies when he wins. A bit more like MistrZZZ. I can't imagine a FBH nerd rage.

In the other hand, IdrA is totally serious in his bm. He is not trying to be funny, and, in a certain extand, he doesn't even do it in purpose.


The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
HyoRiN
Profile Joined June 2008
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 10:29:18
April 23 2009 10:25 GMT
#286
On April 23 2009 19:22 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 19:12 exkgb wrote:
Wow, this thread is still going on.

Idra is the FBH of foreign starcraft, some loves him , some hates him but in the end he's a good player and he's hecka entertaining =) now... if only he'd dance......

Not at all. FBH is "funny". He makes ceremonies when he wins. A bit more like MistrZZZ. I can't imagine a FBH nerd rage.

In the other hand, IdrA is totally serious in his bm. He is not trying to be funny, and, in a certain extand, he doesn't even do it in purpose.


That's the entertaining and funny thing about him. Many people here on TL seem to be against him as well as most foreigners that play SC. Ofc, he's going to have this bottled-up emotion and let it out. Just imagine your alone in a house where you're the only American and you're far away from home. Plus, you got gosu koreans owning you everywhere and ppl on TL and GG.net attacking and expecting a lot from you. Damn, gotta give him props for not giving up and keepin' the flow. That's kinda manly in a way
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7883 Posts
April 23 2009 10:28 GMT
#287
On April 23 2009 19:18 HyoRiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 18:51 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote:
Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not


That's deep man, i was moved.
+ Show Spoiler +
Not really, you're a moron.


Ever since Korea took SC to the professional level, the BM and GM shit has gone way too far. It's amazing how Starcraft has become so "serious" nowadays. "OMG he said GG before the game ended!!" This is obviously a big thing if some professional gamer did that in Korea. But wtf LOL ... What happened to the old days when video games were just games. Imho, everyone who went crazy over the bm really needs to lighten up. Don't let the social norms of Korea eat you up. I'm not saying it's bad, but come on just think about it ... who cares LOL!! It's not like he explicitly told Fenix that he sucks ass and that he lost a chance to go to Korea. That would be a different story ... Little things like the early GG make me giggle.

I personnaly care that a player insult another one and act like a dick in a public match. Same way that if I go to a chess tornament and one of the players refuse to shake hand, I would be disturbed (and btw, he would be disqualified imediately). And when soccer players simulate, insult each others or act like dicks, I am disturbed too (that's why I don't like soccer, btw).
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
HyoRiN
Profile Joined June 2008
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 10:40:29
April 23 2009 10:33 GMT
#288
On April 23 2009 19:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 19:18 HyoRiN wrote:
On April 23 2009 18:51 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
On April 23 2009 18:12 HyoRiN wrote:
Honestly, who the hell cares about the bm. It was great and entertaining. Just imagine if everyone was polite and gm. Yeah ... it would be dull and mundane. It's not about who's more gm, it's about who's the better player. I'm not saying Fenix is a bad player, but IdrA is obviously the better player here. If you can't handle bm, cry. At least IdrA is being himself and expressing more of his emotions. It's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not


That's deep man, i was moved.
+ Show Spoiler +
Not really, you're a moron.


Ever since Korea took SC to the professional level, the BM and GM shit has gone way too far. It's amazing how Starcraft has become so "serious" nowadays. "OMG he said GG before the game ended!!" This is obviously a big thing if some professional gamer did that in Korea. But wtf LOL ... What happened to the old days when video games were just games. Imho, everyone who went crazy over the bm really needs to lighten up. Don't let the social norms of Korea eat you up. I'm not saying it's bad, but come on just think about it ... who cares LOL!! It's not like he explicitly told Fenix that he sucks ass and that he lost a chance to go to Korea. That would be a different story ... Little things like the early GG make me giggle.

I personnaly care that a player insult another one and act like a dick in a public match. Same way that if I go to a chess tornament and one of the players refuse to shake hand, I would be disturbed (and btw, he would be disqualified imediately). And when soccer players simulate, insult each others or act like dicks, I am disturbed too (that's why I don't like soccer, btw).


It happens in all sports and competition. Bm will always be existent and you just gotta deal with it. What I'm saying is that the levels of BM and how people define it in SC is so funny. Like I said, "OMG he said GG before the gamed ended!!" LOL ...... big deal? In American culture, this would be funny. But I have to keep in mind that different cultures (Europe, Asia, etc) might perceive this differently and the degree of seriousness would be different. So I apologize, you're right. Anyways, we all have our opinions on when things really start going too far or start becoming too offensive ...
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exkgb
Profile Joined September 2005
United States504 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 10:50:58
April 23 2009 10:45 GMT
#289
On April 23 2009 19:22 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 19:12 exkgb wrote:
Wow, this thread is still going on.

Idra is the FBH of foreign starcraft, some loves him , some hates him but in the end he's a good player and he's hecka entertaining =) now... if only he'd dance......

Not at all. FBH is "funny". He makes ceremonies when he wins. A bit more like MistrZZZ. I can't imagine a FBH nerd rage.

In the other hand, IdrA is totally serious in his bm. He is not trying to be funny, and, in a certain extand, he doesn't even do it in purpose.




If you are saying that Idra is not entertaining, I beg to differ

If you look at dictionary.com

one of the definitions of "entertain" is
- to hold the attention of pleasantly or agreeably; divert; amuse.

And to that end, if you see the reaction of people to Idra's games, he definitely accomplish the goal of being entertaining ( consciously or unconsciously ). During his games, there are always a lot of discussion going on, there's the haters who wish he'd lose and there are also the more light hearted people watching out for his BM moments and frankly, its amusing as heck.

If you watch the casts of these games, Idra's BM even creates interesting/entertaining responses from the Artosis/Tasteless, which is... entertaining. Even when the games are over, his BM-ness evokes response from the community from famous figures like Rek ( who always makes entertaining posts ).

And to characterize his BM-ness as totally serious would be false too. As a lot of people have said, its simply nerd-rage. If you look at previous instances of his BM-ness ( such as to strelok ), Idra admits afterwards that he's been acting like an ass. The guy is obviously caught up in the spur-of-the-moment nerd-rage, which makes it very...... ENTERTAINING! just look at how many views the nerd-rage videos on youtube has, many people are entertained by it.

As any polarizing figure, there will be always lovers/haters to Idra, but to say that he is not entertaining is just wrong.

I stand behind my statement about the dancing part....
Z.Kw
Profile Joined February 2009
China297 Posts
April 23 2009 10:54 GMT
#290
nerd-rage is totally serious nerds don't rage for no reason
streampowered
Profile Joined April 2009
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 11:10:44
April 23 2009 10:59 GMT
#291
I cant belive fenix kept his cool while being under a constant barrage of insults from idra. Grow up idra stop calling people gosus or typing gg you child. I'm not surprised fenix said he will kill you because if you did this to me I would probably devote my life to destroying you. One day you might learn that if you say nothing everyone will love you. What's wrong with you crazy child?

such unbelievable behavior.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
April 23 2009 11:13 GMT
#292
On April 23 2009 18:00 jtype wrote:
Lol. I think there should be a feature to turn text chat off in competitive matches and just have a "GG" button instead. It would keep the whole thing more professional.


Wouldnt help. Idra would obviously press it before the game was over...
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streampowered
Profile Joined April 2009
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 11:17:57
April 23 2009 11:17 GMT
#293
On April 23 2009 20:13 Starparty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 18:00 jtype wrote:
Lol. I think there should be a feature to turn text chat off in competitive matches and just have a "GG" button instead. It would keep the whole thing more professional.


Wouldnt help. Idra would obviously press it before the game was over...

a loophole! damn, foiled again. What are we going to do now? This child is completely out of control we must find a method to sedate him before he does something crazy. You guys have any ideas?

jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 11:40:37
April 23 2009 11:40 GMT
#294
Wouldnt help. Idra would obviously press it before the game was over...
a loophole! damn, foiled again. What are we going to do now? This child is completely out of control we must find a method to sedate him before he does something crazy. You guys have any ideas?



We could put him on a pro team in Korea and see if that helps... oh wait...
Mannequin
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada131 Posts
April 23 2009 12:00 GMT
#295
Haha I like how there can't be a post about Idra without there being a BM/GM topic in it.
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
April 23 2009 12:41 GMT
#296
On April 23 2009 20:13 Starparty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 18:00 jtype wrote:
Lol. I think there should be a feature to turn text chat off in competitive matches and just have a "GG" button instead. It would keep the whole thing more professional.


Wouldnt help. Idra would obviously press it before the game was over...


How about a plugin that automatically sends "gg" when you quit the game.
No I'm never serious.
rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
April 23 2009 12:42 GMT
#297
One of the rules for ESWC qualifiers was

"- All players must maintain good manner and fair play."

Which Idra clearly didn't do, so imo he should be removed from the competition for rule breaking.

Source http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1670271#
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25979 Posts
April 23 2009 12:58 GMT
#298
Good manner is such a sliding scale that it would be bullshit to remove someone for that. Beyond that he played fair. Idra plays like a goddamn asshole, but he shouldn't be removed.
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streampowered
Profile Joined April 2009
United States60 Posts
April 23 2009 12:59 GMT
#299
Arrest him!
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
April 23 2009 13:03 GMT
#300
burn !
rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
April 23 2009 14:21 GMT
#301
true chill but I cant see any scale that would not consider this bm, even those defending him say its bm that entertains them

anyway im probably picking at threads due to my bias and general dislike of idra, i'll leave it now
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
April 23 2009 16:01 GMT
#302
On April 23 2009 21:58 Chill wrote:
Good manner is such a sliding scale that it would be bullshit to remove someone for that. Beyond that he played fair. Idra plays like a goddamn asshole, but he shouldn't be removed.
Ooohhh yes, such a sliding scale. I'm sure some sane people would consider "rofl youre bad" as a very polite compliment. That is just sooooo subject to interpretations. Complete bullshit to think otherwise.
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zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 00:46:05
April 30 2009 00:41 GMT
#303
couldn't you just start a "Would YOU ban Idra from the ESWC for being bm?" poll?
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
April 30 2009 00:46 GMT
#304
this Idra BM "argument" is kinda sickening to read
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 30 2009 01:02 GMT
#305
On April 24 2009 01:01 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 21:58 Chill wrote:
Good manner is such a sliding scale that it would be bullshit to remove someone for that. Beyond that he played fair. Idra plays like a goddamn asshole, but he shouldn't be removed.
Ooohhh yes, such a sliding scale. I'm sure some sane people would consider "rofl youre bad" as a very polite compliment. That is just sooooo subject to interpretations. Complete bullshit to think otherwise.

I understand that you didn't get Chill's comment, and that's OK! Here is an example of a sliding scale of BM (when a Terran first scouts proxy gate):

"hmm proxy gate"

"lol proxy gate"

"lolol are you serious"

"i knew it"

"of course YOU would do this"

"of course you have to cheese to win"

"this is just awful"

"god, you're so terrible"

So where would you draw the line?
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 01:37:37
April 30 2009 01:37 GMT
#306
On April 30 2009 10:02 motbob wrote:
"hmm proxy gate" GM

"lol proxy gate" GM

"lolol are you serious" BM

"i knew it" GM

"of course YOU would do this" BM

"of course you have to cheese to win" BM

"this is just awful" BM

"god, you're so terrible" BM

So where would you draw the line?


There ya' go.

I agree with Chill though.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 01:38:28
April 30 2009 01:37 GMT
#307
On April 30 2009 10:02 motbob wrote:
So where would you draw the line?
The point is: Would any polite human being in his sane conscious draw the line after "lol ur so bad"? O.o This discussion is ridiculous.
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