I didn't see anyone post the games from last night so I will.
What did you guys think of Idra's performance? He basically raped Trap 1st game and 2nd game he lost because of his overconfidence.

Also (im not homo) but I thought Idra look GOOD.
Way better than when he was in Estro where he was skinny and looks like a kid.
Now he looks healthy and mature.

CapO

United States1615 Posts

March 29 2009 22:09 GMT

you are homo.

United States6173 Posts

March 29 2009 22:10 GMT

He played well. I was impressed.

minus_human

4784 Posts

March 29 2009 22:11 GMT

Imho Idra's mechanics were great, but his mentality... lacking, to say the best, as usual.

Imho for him do really do anything noticeable he has to beat himself, first of all, then it will all come to him.

Naib

Hungary4843 Posts

March 29 2009 22:12 GMT

On March 30 2009 07:11 minus_human wrote:
Imho Idra's mechanics were great, but his mentality... lacking, to say the best, as usual.

Imho for him do really do anything noticeable he has to beat himself, first of all, then it will all come to him.

Yeah, I also think it's not the raw skill part is where he's lacking, not at all. I'm pretty sure the CJ managers noticed the same, hence the purchase from eSTRO.

merz

Sweden2760 Posts

March 29 2009 22:16 GMT

I love people who feel like they have to make it really obivous that they are not gay when complementing the looks of a person of the same gender.

On topic though; Haven't looked into those games but now I feel compelled to, I'll probably get back to the thread after i've seen the games.

Raz0r

United States287 Posts

March 29 2009 22:21 GMT

I hope for the best for Idra, even though im Korean American and I'm Protoss user. I just don't want him killing Bisu or Savior, cuz they my favorite!

147 Posts

March 29 2009 22:24 GMT

link pls ^^
cant find the games on gom. the latest games ul is bisu vs jd 1 month ago?

Carnivorous Sheep

Baa?21242 Posts

March 29 2009 22:25 GMT

Youtube search Idra versus Trap, not that hard =d

EGMachine

United States1643 Posts

March 29 2009 22:27 GMT

#10

GOD DAMN GREG LOOKS SO HAWWWTTTT ID HIT THAT

but yea hes playing mechanically VERY well, just made some bad judgement's on timing to move out and hesitated a bit

Itachii

Poland12466 Posts

March 29 2009 22:31 GMT

#11

I was really impressed after the 1st game, to be honest I expected him to lose this 0-2 easy.
Too bad his decision in 2nd one costed him the game and the whole match~~but overall performance was better then I expected from him, maybe he will get somewhere if he beats himself first as someone mentioned.

Neak

United Kingdom124 Posts

March 29 2009 22:39 GMT

#12

He didn't play bad at all, but to admit, one can tell the huge difference between a foreigner and a korean just by watching a few games easily. And that was the case here too, he has a lot of catching up to do and his opponents won't be there waiting for him to catch up. I have no faith in any foreigner in korean leagues.

Scooge

Iceland144 Posts

March 29 2009 23:00 GMT

#13

He has no distinctive style. It's just standard and boring. It would be OK if you did it really well and manage to win (Flash after he got big), but standard and boring and losing makes you just another terran player.

masami.sc

United States445 Posts

March 29 2009 23:03 GMT

#14

I'm really glad Greg is sticking with to it and not leaving like all the other foreign hopefuls. He isn't letting the criticism and pressure get to him. He's gotten a lot better mechanically; all he needs to do now is have some confidence in himself. Currently, he's really the only hope for foreigners in the Korean scene. And I'm sure (I hope...) his perseverance will pay off.

anotak

United States1537 Posts

March 29 2009 23:17 GMT

#15

On March 30 2009 08:00 Scooge wrote:
He has no distinctive style. It's just standard and boring. It would be OK if you did it really well and manage to win (Flash after he got big), but standard and boring and losing makes you just another terran player.

This is a terrible way to look at things.

He plays to win. Not for any "style".

EternaLEnVy

Canada513 Posts

March 29 2009 23:20 GMT

#16

On March 30 2009 08:17 anotak wrote:

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This is a terrible way to look at things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I
He plays to win. Not for any "style".

If he plays to win, then he better change up his style. Unless if hes potentially amazing, hes not gonna be able to catch up to them. Playing copy isn't gonna get him up there.

You can't assume that his opponents aren't praticing. Assuming his opponents have the same potential, it's obvious that they will both pratice and greg will still be behind.

Piste

6175 Posts

March 29 2009 23:21 GMT

#17

I expected strong mechanics from idra, and that's what I got to see.
He performed really well, first game was almost perfect!
He would have got second game but it was that one split force-attack that cost him the game. That is one of his weaknesses, splitting his army at the wrong time. Other than that he had quite good decisionmaking in the second game.
Game three he had bad luck with the drop. Anyways Andromeda is hard map for Terran when facing protoss.
Go Greg!

And I would not suggest him to change his style... at least not yet. Playing standard builds and forcing the the match going into the lategame is a good way to get strong badass mechanics. After getting insane macro+micro you can go and switch your style from time to time.

anTi_

United States499 Posts

March 29 2009 23:24 GMT

#18

Idra played great overall, his mines did so much damage vs trap, his dropship play got shut down on every map which kind of sucked. Idra could have very well won this series, a few mistakes (maybe nervousness?) cost him the game. The way I see it is that you learn more from losing than winning, had idra won this series 2:0 in a convincing fashion like game 1 he would not have learned nearly as much as losing 1:2 in close games. I hope you continue to get even better and let everyone see your improvements.

ABOUT NoNy vs F91, Do not click this spoiler if you haven't watched the games yet.
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As we can see idra losing to f91 5:2 wasn't as bad as it seemed, as far as liquibition goes f91 has performed the best out of any foreigner, beating nony today 4:2.

I think one thing that idra needs to develop in his play is some strategies that aren't standard, don't get me wrong, not like allins or anything, just like spice it up with an FD push, 2 fact, 1 fact/1star, or 13cc even instead of just siege expand everytime.