EPTIdra's Performance on GomTv - Page 7
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4Servy
Netherlands1542 Posts
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On March 31 2009 03:34 4Servy wrote: Hes good mechanicly (always was) but its sooooooooo predicteble and linear that I dont see it working against a korean who can equaly macro really good. Ok I seriously think people keep saying this as some kind of mantra. What exactly are you thinking of? (with reference to todays' games)?? 3 games, three builds, that's about as much variation you can ask for seriously. | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
got a bit unlucky 3rd game with trap killing that neutral building, guess many p's wouldntve done that 2nd game was close, probably shouldve chosen between pushing and taking 3rd, either one wouldve worked | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On March 31 2009 03:34 4Servy wrote: Hes good mechanicly (always was) but its sooooooooo predicteble and linear that I dont see it working against a korean who can equaly macro really good. just a linear and predictable post, thats all i think of it trying to explain anything to a sheep herd is impossible good thing is that the herd will follow when idra starts winning | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
On March 30 2009 08:27 Rostam wrote: Are you serious? By that logic, the same players should be on top now that were in 2000. that's not true because most of the on top atm vary very little in skill and a lot of it comes down to mindcontrol and good conditioning pregame also age is a definite factor which is why the top players always change On March 31 2009 05:03 food wrote: just a linear and predictable post, thats all i think of it trying to explain anything to a sheep herd is impossible good thing is that the herd will follow when idra starts winning i c u've contributed a lot to this thread by trying to not convince a herd of sheeps... | ||
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Sonu
Canada577 Posts
TV match.. the time a foreigner did that was either Smuft or Grrr.. well i wouldnt know but still yeah GG | ||
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hazz
United Kingdom570 Posts
On March 31 2009 01:58 MYM.Testie wrote: I'm jealous because I could never amount to anything even through using hacks | ||
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ShmotZ
United States581 Posts
 . Goodluck on the next season greg!! | ||
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DarkShadowz
Sweden321 Posts
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Alizee-
United States845 Posts
If you can win standard comfortably, adapting to tardo rando commando early game strats is just a matter of time to adapt to that. | ||
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Delerium
United States324 Posts
IdrA really impressed me on Sunday. I have watched people trash-talk him into the ground on TL.net, and after seeing the results F91 posted against him, I was not expecting IdrA to hold together on Korean TV. Given the show he gave us, I think he did very well for himself and probably won a lot of people over to his side. Honestly, maybe it sounds silly, but I really enjoyed seeing a white guy beat a korean in a televised game, even without taking the series. It was great TV experience for IdrA's career going forward. Since F91 also stomped Nony, I don't think IdrA needs to feel bad about those results. I think most experts would agree with me that F91 probably has a strategic mind that rivals or exceeds many korean pro-gamers. He seems to have incredible game-sense, which is not an easily learned skill, but also the ability to trick his opponent, which is even more advanced. This further diminishes those losses. F91 really needs a Daniel Lee type figure to recognize his smarts and bring him to korea! The problem that TL.net posters seem to have with IdrA amounts to personality and ego. It's a dilemma if you're IdrA: you're playing on a korean pro team! you're the only white guy in the world 'good enough' to do that! Surely that's something to feel good about? But, you aren't given any slack by the rest of your white peers. What I've noticed about the super-stars in broodwar is that they are all incredibly humble. They hold their opponents in high regard. It's possible that overconfidence, ego, and arrogance may be a stumbling block for IdrA moving forward. Many people struggle with those things, though, so I think we should be kind. If IdrA truly wants to improve his game as a gift to his loyal fans, he can probably overcome this mental hurdle with his sincerity. IdrA said in his interview that he can't communicate with his teammates. I definitely think that making an effort to learn some Korean would really help his game. It should be pretty easy because he's in an immersive language environment and the people around him can understand and speak his native tongue a little bit. IdrA, if you're reading this, I hope you do very well in the future and show us some good games! You are the hope of foreigners everywhere. It was so cool to see you in a real CJ uniform on a stage with lights and an audience... | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Pretty much anyone exceptional in any sport is very arrogant. The Koreans may put on a persona of being humble but they're not really. I like Jaedong a lot, but he really thinks he's THE MAN. The way he smirks and says stuff like "I haven't shown my true practice potential yet". He also thinks he's an awesome rave dancer as well, which is pretty funny. | ||
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ramen247
United States1256 Posts
On March 31 2009 07:17 Klive5ive wrote: Arrogance is not a stumbling block, far from it. Pretty much anyone exceptional in any sport is very arrogant. The Koreans may put on a persona of being humble but they're not really. I like Jaedong a lot, but he really thinks he's THE MAN. The way he smirks and says stuff like "I haven't shown my true practice potential yet". He also thinks he's an awesome rave dancer as well, which is pretty funny. lol.. why are you using one person to represent every single korean... | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On March 31 2009 07:21 ramen247 wrote: lol.. why are you using one person to represent every single korean... Oh God, never type quickly on the internet. I worded that wrong of course I don't mean all Koreans are arrogant. Just imagine all you saw of Idra was his speech before the GOM match, you'd think he was a really humble guy. That's all I'm saying. So basically I disagree with: On March 31 2009 07:06 Delerium wrote: What I've noticed about the super-stars in broodwar is that they are all incredibly humble. | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
On March 31 2009 07:17 Klive5ive wrote: Arrogance is not a stumbling block, far from it. Pretty much anyone exceptional in any sport is very arrogant. The Koreans may put on a persona of being humble but they're not really. I like Jaedong a lot, but he really thinks he's THE MAN. The way he smirks and says stuff like "I haven't shown my true practice potential yet". He also thinks he's an awesome rave dancer as well, which is pretty funny. EDIT: IGNORE THIS. I spent about 10 minutes thinking about my post and didn't realize it was responded to already Jaedong isn't exactly one to rub it into another person's face. He is a good mannered player and will celebrate if there is a time to celebrate(beating a great rival) or he will respectfully lose(unlike other progamer's) I have to disagree with you when you say "Arrogance isn't a stumbling block". Not everyone is exceptional in any sport AND arrogant. This is what noob bashers do in my opinion. They will purposefully bash noobs just to think they are good. Also being exceptional in stuff doesn't make you good at it automatically. You have raw talent, now you have to make good use of it. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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ramen247
United States1256 Posts
On March 31 2009 07:31 Racenilatr wrote: EDIT: IGNORE THIS. I spent about 10 minutes thinking about my post and didn't realize it was responded to already Jaedong isn't exactly one to rub it into another person's face. He is a good mannered player and will celebrate if there is a time to celebrate(beating a great rival) or he will respectfully lose(unlike other progamer's) I have to disagree with you when you say "Arrogance isn't a stumbling block". Not everyone is exceptional in any sport AND arrogant. This is what noob bashers do in my opinion. They will purposefully bash noobs just to think they are good. Also being exceptional in stuff doesn't make you good at it automatically. You have raw talent, now you have to make good use of it. jaedong's reaction after he lost to fbh was pretty... uncontrolled. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On March 31 2009 07:32 floor exercise wrote: That's cause you don't understand the difference between having a winning attitude and being arrogant. Anyone who hopes to accomplish anything should believe in themselves that they are capable of doing it. That's not arrogance Well what is a "winning attitude". There isn't a lot of difference between unerring self-belief and arrogance, that's for sure. Idra believes he should win every game he plays, and if he loses it isn't his fault or a fault in his play. He loses are often because his opponent took a large risk (that wouldn't play off if he had defended properly, which he is capable of) and they got lucky. Now that is self-confidence. You need that to keep believing that you can make it and believing in your own style of play and practice if you want to do well. Where the arrogance comes in is he doesn't keep this to himself. But then that's just speaking your mind, I don't see that as a weakness. Putting it in the nicest terms, would it be wrong to say: Speaking your mind, combined with an overly positive spin on your own abilities = arrogance. | ||
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Flaccid
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
That's something entirely different. | ||
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