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[WL] Finals Winners & Losers Interviews

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Last Edited: 2009-03-29 01:42:08
March 28 2009 14:20 GMT
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K I gotta run for the Markham lan but I'll translate the other 2 when I get back.
I hope smix didn't post a translation already lol

Interview with SkyHigh & team

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- 올킬 위기에서 출전했는데
▲ 조병세=러시아워3에서 저그전 준비를 많이 했기 때문에 자신감은 충분했다. 이제동 선수가 올인 러시를 해서 더 쉽게 이긴 것 같다. 어려운 승부가 될 것 같았는데 쉽게 이겨서 경기 끝난 뒤 기분이 얼떨떨했다.
- You came out at the verge of getting all-killed
- SkyHigh: I practiced a lot of TvZ for Rush Hour 3 so I was confident. I think I won more easily because Jeadong all-ined. I thought it would be a tough game but I won quite easily so it felt weird.


- 경기는 어땠나
▲ 조병세=처음에 전략을 막고 나서 SCV 정찰이 잘 돼서 상대 진영을 다 봤다. 그래서 막으면 이긴다는 생각으로 막기만 하면 유리하다고 생각했다.
- How was the game?
- SkyHigh: After I defended the attack, I scouted well with the SCV so I got to see his entire base. So I thought to myself that if I defend, then I’ll be at an advantage.


- 스스로 올킬이 가능하다고 생각했는지
▲ 조병세=한 경기 한 경기 할 때마다 다음 경기 생각을 하지 않았다. 그냥 눈 앞의 경기를 이기고 뒤를 생각하자는 마음으로 경기에 임했다. 사실 올킬은 생각하지도 못했다.

- Did you think that an all-kill was possible?
- SkyHigh: I didn’t think about the next game, just taking it one by one. I told myself to win the game right in front of my eyes and think later. An all-kill didn’t even occur to me

- 우승하고 난 뒤 팀원들이 가장 먼저 생각난다고 했는데
▲ 조병세=선배들이 매 경기 끝날 때마다 부담을 덜어주려고 많은 노력을 했다. 그래서 경기가 끝난 뒤 형들이 생각 난 것 같났다. (마)재윤이형과 (변)형태형이 옆에서 잘하라고 많은 조언을 해주셨다. 정말 고맙게 생각한다.
- You said you thought of your teammates first
- SkyHigh: The older teammates tried hard to take off the stress after every game. So that’s why I think I thought of them after the series. Savior and Iris hyungs stayed by my side and gave me lots of advice. I’m really thankful for them.


- 출전 선수들의 소감이 듣고 싶다
▲ 김정우=오늘 선봉으로 출전해서 이제동 선수 사대로 굉장히 자신 있었는데 큰 무대에서 이제동 선수가 심리전을 잘하더라. 그 부분은 이번 경기를 통해 내가 배웠다고 생각하고 다음에 다시 만난다면 이길 자신 있다.
- What are the thoughts of other players
- Effort: I was extremely confident today against Jaedong but he was good at mind games. I learned that part of Starcraft through this game and I’m confident that I can win the next time we meet.

▲ 변형태=고참 선수로서 제 몫을 다 못해서 많이 미안하다. 우승해서 기쁘고 조병세 선수에게 연습 준비하면서 농담 식으로 네가 역올킬을 하는 것은 100만분의 1의 확률이라고 농담을 했는데 정말로 해줬다. 조병세는 100만분의 1의 사나이가 됐다.(웃음)
- Iris: I’m sorry that I couldn’t do my part as a senior player. I’m glad we won and I joked to SkyHigh that the chances of you getting an all-kill is 1 million to 1 but he really did it. SkyHigh became the one in a million man (laugh).

- CJ엔투스 팀워크가 갑자기 향상된 것 같은데
▲ 변형태=아무래도 위기에 몰려야 팀워크가 더 다져지는 것 같다.(웃음) 위기에 처해서 더 잘 뭉칠 수 있었다.
- CJ Entus’ teamwork seems to have been upgraded suddenly.
- Iris: I think our teamwork improves when we are cornered (laugh). The more danger we’re in, the more we stuck together.

▲ 마재윤=분위기가 안 좋은 상황에서 출전했기 때문에 내가 꼭 기세를 뒤집어야겠다고 생각했는데 아쉽게 패해서 개인적으로는 속상하다. 그래도 병세가 잘해줘서 우리 팀이 우승해서 기분 좋다. 나의 패배는 아쉽지만 결과적으로 승리했으니 만족한다.
- Savior: I told myself that since we’re in a bad position that I would turn the tides but I unfortunately lost so I’m disappointed personally. But SkyHigh did well and we won so I feel great. I’m disappointed at my loss but the overall result is a win so I’m satisfied.



Interview with Jaedong

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- 아쉽게 패했는데
▲ 정말 많이 아쉽다. 지금은 아쉽다는 생각밖에 들지 않는다. 우승을 놓쳤기 때문에 아쉬움이 큰 것 같다.
- You lost disappointingly
- I’m very disappointed. That’s all I can think of right now. I think it’s because we were so close to winning that the disappointment is so big.

- 접전 끝 패배라 아쉬움이 더 클 것 같다.
▲ 오늘 CJ의 저력을 느낄 수 있었다. 비록 정규시즌과 포스트시즌에서 패했지만 4라운드에서는 더 갈고 닦아서 이 패배를 갚아주겠다.
- The disappointment must be bigger because the final game was so close
- I could feel CJ’s power today. Although we lost in regular and post season, I’ll sharpen and hone my skills to avenge this loss.

- 본인은 오늘 3킬을 기록했는데
▲ 팀이 패했기 때문에 3킬을 기뻐할 수 없다. 팀이 지는 순간 3킬도 의미가 없어졌다.
- You got 3 kills today
- I can’t be happy about the 3 kills because the team lost. As soon as the team lost, the 3 kills lost its meaning.

- 조병세에게 스나이핑 당했다.
▲ 두 번 연속으로 스나이핑 당했다. 지금의 이 기분을 잊지 않고 다음 라운드에서는 배로 복수해 주겠다.
- You got sniped by Skyhigh
- I got sniped twice in a row. I will not forget this moment and I’ll return the favour doubly in the next round.

- 4라운드에 임하는 각오
▲ 지금의 패배가 우리에게 더 큰 힘이 될 수 있도록 열심히 노력하겠다. 지금 패배를 잊지 않고 4라운드를 열심히 준비하겠다.
- Your resolution for round 4
- I will make the loss today into an even bigger strength for us. I will not forget today’s loss and will prepare hard for the 4th round


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[신한은행]화승 조정웅 감독, “선수들에게 수고했다는 말을 전하고 싶다”

28일, 서울 중구 장충체육관에서 열린 신한은행 위너스 리그 08-09 결승전에서 화승이 CJ의 조병세에게 역올킬을 당하며 아쉽게 준우승에 머물렀다.

화승의 조정웅 감독은 “오늘 열심히 해준 선수들에게 수고했다는 말을 전하고 싶다”며 “지금의 아쉬움은 광안리 무대에서 우승해 털어내겠다”고 말했다.

다음은 조정웅 감독과의 일문일답

- 아쉽게 패했는데
▲ 패배는 항상 아쉽다. 하지만 선수들이 최선을 다해준 것에 만족하고 4라운드를 열심히 준비할 것이다.

- 시작은 좋았다.
▲ 4세트에서 (이)제동이가 저글링을 제대로 보냈다면 승리할 수 있었을 텐데 그러지 못해서 조금 아쉽다. 프로토스를 적극적으로 기용한 것에 비해 결과는 그리 좋지 않았지만 4라운드에서는 잘해줄거라 믿는다. 오늘의 패배가 선수들에게 큰 교훈이 되길 바란다.

- 프로토스를 적극적으로 기용한 이유가 있다면
▲ 지금까지는 이제동-구성훈 체제로 팀을 이끌어왔다. 하지만 4라운드에서는 한계가 있을 것이 분명하기 때문에 프로토스를 육성하기 위해 이번 경기에서 기용해봤다. (노)영훈이의 경우 전략이 엇갈려서 패해서 본인도 많이 아쉬워하더라. 지금 패배를 기회로 더 발전했으면 좋겠다. (임)원기는 긴장을 해서 아쉬운 경기를 한 것 같은데 열심히 다듬어서 4라운드에서는 좋은 모습 보여줄 수 있도록 만들겠다.

- 이제 4라운드를 준비해야 하는데
▲ 4, 5라운드에서 본격적으로 달리겠다. 나는 이제부터 본격적인 시작이라고 생각하고 다음 라운드에서는 잘해서 좋은 모습 보여드리겠다.

- 끝으로 하고 싶은 말은
▲ 우리보다 팬들이 더 아쉬워하는 것 같더라. 이번에 패해서 정말 죄송하고 다음에는 더 좋은 모습으로 지금의 응원에 보답해드리겠다. 사무국에서 아침부터 와서 많은 준비를 하셨는데 이렇게 패해서 죄송하다. 지금의 아쉬움은 광안리 결승전 우승으로 털어내겠다. 끝으로 오늘 열심히 해준 선수들에게 수고했다는 말을 전하고 싶다.

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[신한은행]조규남 감독, 김동우 코치, “광안리에서도 우승하겠다”

28일, 서울 중구 장충체육관에서 열린 신한은행 위너스 리그 08-09 결승전에서 CJ엔투스가 결국 우승을 차지하며 위너스리그 최강자임을 입증했다.

다음은 CJ엔투스 코칭스태프와의 일문일답

- 위너스리그 우승 소감은
▲ 조규남 감독=사실 2006년 창단 이후 회사에서 좋은 지원과 환경을 만들어줬는데 2년 동안 우승을 못해서 미안했다. 오랫동안 기다린 우승이라서 앞으로 더 열심히 할 수 있는 동기부여가 될 것 같고 열심히 도와준 회사와 사무국 직원들께 고마움을 전하고 싶다.


- 올킬패 위기에서 조병세를 출전시킨 이유는
▲ 조규남 감독=이번 위너스 리그 결승에 임하면서 이제동 선수가 선봉으로 출전한 것을 보고 최악의 시나리오를 생각했다. 올킬을 당할지도 모른다는 생각으로 고민을 많이 했다. 마재윤 선수와 변형태, 조병세 선수의 출전 위치를 놓고 고심했다. 전에도 얘기했지만 신인 기용을 염두에 두고 있었기 때문에 가장 좋은 경험을 쌓게 해 주고 싶어 1세트와 4세트에 김정우와 조병세를 출전시킨 것이다. 러시아워3에서 조병세 선수를 내보낼 때는 창단 이후 우리가 우승을 해본 적이 없어서 도전하는 입장으로 시즌에 임했기 때문에 잃을 것이 없다는 마음이었다. 그것이 승리에 큰 도움이 된 것 같다.

- 쉽지 않은 승부였는데
▲ 조규남 감독=CJ전신인 G.O 시절 외부에서는 우리 팀 분위기가 딱딱하다고 했는데 사실 내부적으로는 팀원들간의 돈독함이 대단했다. 고참 선수들이 대거 군입대를 하면서 구멍이 생겼지만 지금 있는 선수들이 제 몫을 다해주면서 팀 전력 향상에 큰 도움이 됐다. 현재 CJ는 2군 숙소를 운영 중이다. 학원 스포츠가 갖춰지지 않은 상황에서 바로 숙소에 합류하면 적응이 힘든데 2군 숙소를 거치게 되면 선수들의 성장에 큰 도움이 된다. 오늘 출전하지 않았지만 밑에서 도움을 준 2군 선수들이 있었기에 지금 1군 선수들이 있을 수 있었다.


- 여러 생각이 들 것 같다
▲ 조규남 감독=처음 시작을 할 때 08-09 시즌에 대해 선수들이 열심히 해줬기 때문에 자신 있었다. 경기를 지더라도 탓 할 수 없을 정도로 열심히 해줬고 경기도 나쁘지 않았다. 이런 경험들이 쌓인다면 위너스리그에서 성적이 나올 거라고 생각했는데 정말로 현실이 됐다. 믿고 따라준 선수들에게 고맙다. 우리가 열심히 노력하고 있기 때문에 페이스가 더 떨어지지 않고 이번에 우승을 할 수 있었다. 이번 우승을 기회로 4라운드에서는 더 강한 팀이 되겠다. 오늘 경험이 더 큰 무대에서 도움이 될 수 있을 것이 확실하기 때문에 반드시 광안리 결승에 진출하겠다.

- 승자연전방식에 대해서 어떻게 생각하는지. 스타선수위주로 출전한다는 지적이 있는데
▲ 조규남 감독=일단은 3라운드에서 가장 큰 수혜를 입었기 때문에 개인적으로 위너스 리그가 사랑스럽다.(웃음) 이번 08-09 시즌 기획을 하면서 팬들에게 볼거리를 주기 위해 고민한 결과 팀배틀 방식의 리그를 채택한 것으로 아는데 신인을 육성하는 부분은 생각의 차이에 달린 것 같다. 팀배틀 방식의 가장 큰 장점이자 단점은 선수 개인의 기본적인 실력이 굉장히 뛰어나야 버틸 수 있다는 것이다. 우리 팀 선수들은 기본실력이 뛰어나기 때문에 잘 맞아떨어졌다. 예전과 마찬가지로 이번에도 분위기 전환을 위한 기폭제가 될 것 같다.

- 4, 5라운드에도 주목할 선수가 있다면
▲ 조규남 감독=감독이니까 선수 사랑은 당연하다. 4월에 숙소 이전을 할 것 같은데 이 기회에 여러가지 개편을 생각하고 있는데 1, 2군과 연습생 모두 버릴 선수가 하나도 없다는 것이 행복한 고민이다. 이번에 출전한 선수들을 제외하고도 다들 두각을 나타내고 있어서 기쁘게 생각한다. 4라운드에서도 새롭게 기용할 선수들이 있는 것은 분명하다. 굳이 얘기하자면 저그의 신동원 선수와 프로토스 장윤철 선수를 염두에 두고 있다. 열심히 한다면 4라운드에서도 출전 기회를 얻을 수 있을 것 같다.

- (김동우 코치에게) 우승 소감과 선수들이 얼만큼 준비했는지 궁금하다
.▲ 김동우 코치=감독님께서는 1등 감독을 많이 해보셨지만 나는 2등 코치만 많이 했던 것 같다.(웃음). 오늘 처음으로 1등 코치를 하게 돼서 기쁘다. 이번으로 만족하지 않고 통합 포스트시즌에서 다시 우승해서 이 기분을 느끼고 싶다. 우리 선수들은 지금까지 매번 결승전을 치르면서 열심히 했느냐고 물을 필요도 없을 정도로 최선을 다했다. 정말 우승하고 싶어서 노력했는데 두 번의 좌절 끝에 드디어 우승을 했다. 모든 팀들 중에서 제일 열심히 했기 때문에 우승을 할 수 있었던 것 같다.

- 마지막 한마디
.▲ 조규남 감독=위너스리그 우승을 기점으로 더 노력하는 CJ엔투스가 될 것이고 4라운드에서 방심하지 않고 열심히 해서 최종 목표인 광안리 무대에서도 팬들이 원하는 우승을 해내고 말겠다.

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Mod edit: Coach interviews translated by konadora:

On March 29 2009 00:55 konadora wrote:
[Proleague] Hwaseung Coach Cho : "I want to say "Good job" to all the (Hwaseung I suppose?) players."

On 28th, Hwaseung got reverse all-killed by CJ's SkyHigh and lost in the Winner's League 08-09 Finals, held in the Seoul Gymnastic Stadium (anyone knows the actual english name of this place?)

Hwaseung's coach Cho Jeong Woong said that '(he) would like to say 'Good job' to all the players who put in their best today", and that '(they'll) definitely win the Grand Finals to make up for this loss."

Next is the interview with coach Cho Jeong Woong.

- You lost just by a bit.
▲ A loss is always disappointing. However, I am satisfied that my players did their best, and we'll work hard for Round 4.

- You started off well.
▲ In game 4, if Jaedong sent the zerglings to the right direction we might have won, but that did not happen, so it was a pity. We played our protoss cards aggressively but the results weren't that good, but I believe they'll do well in Round 4. I hope today's losses will be a great help to them.

- The reason for sending protosses so aggressively?
▲ Up til now, the Jaedong-Hiya combo pulled our team a long way. But in Round 4, there will be a limit to how far they can pull us though. Therefore, to get our protosses to get used to everything, I sent them out. In Young's case, the build and strategy was off and didn't suit Skyhigh's build and led to his loss, which he was very unhappy about. I hope he will develop further through this loss. In Spear's case, he was too nervous, which I believe led to his poor gameplay. I will try my best to guide him further so that he'll perform better in Round 4.

- Now you have to prepare for Round 4.
▲ We'll push ahead head-on in round 4 and 5. I will tell myself that this is a new start, and that I'll show better results in the next round.

- Your final words?
▲ I think the fans are more disappointed than us. I am really sorry for today's loss, and I'll repay all the fan's support by showing better performance next time round. Many people came early to prepare (for supporting us) but because we lost like this, I'm very sorry. I'll shake off this loss by winning in the Grand Finals. Ending off, I'll like to say 'Good job' to all the players who worked hard today.

Next interview -

[Proleague] Cho Gyu Nam coach, Kim Dong Woo coach: "We'll also win in the Grand Finals"

On 28th in the Seoul Gymnastic Stadium (really, I need a proper name for this place), CJ Entus eventually emerged as the undisputed winner of the Winner's League 08-09.

Following up is the interview with the coaching staff.

- Your thoughts on the Winner's League win.
▲ Coach Cho: Actually, after 2006's formation of the team, I've built up a good environment with the company and its employees, but for two years we did not win anything, so I was very sorry. It was a long awaited win, so I believe it'll help us to work even harder, and I'll like to thank the company and the secretariat bureau employees who helped us tremendously.

- Your reason for sending Skyhigh on the verge of being all-killed
▲ Coach Cho: While thinking of this finals, we thought of all worst-case scenarios after seeing Jaedong being the first player. We worried a lot that we might get all-killed by Jaedong. I decided to send Savior, Iris and Skyhigh. I could not say this last time, but I want to give good experience to the newcomers, hence I sent out Effort and Skyhigh for game 1 and 4 respectively. We had not won before, so we treated this as a challenge to us when we sent Skyhigh. I think that contributed a lot to our win today.

- It wasn't an easy fight.
▲ Coach Cho: Before CJ, during the period of G.O, other people would say our team's atmosphere wasn't that good and lively, more of rigid. But the players were actually great within the team. When some went to the army, it felt like there was something missing, as though there was a gap, but our current players did their part and helped to fill up these holes, contributing greatly to the overall development of the team. We are now greatly supporting the B team. If one doesn't train and joins us immediately, it's hard to get used to, but if they train through B team, it's of great help to them. The B team did not play today, but it's because of them that the A team is here right now.

- You must have had a lot of thoughts.
▲ Coach Cho: When Winner's League 08-09 started off, the players did their best, so I was confident. Even if they lost, they practiced so hard that I could not fault them, and besides, the matches weren't so bad. If such experience accumulated, I believed results will show, and that became reality. I am very thankful towards the players who placed their trust in me and followed all the way. We practiced hard, that's why we did not lose our pace, and that's why we could win today. We would take this win to turn ourselves into an even stronger team. Today's experience will definitely help on a larger stage, hence we will definitely make it into the Grand Finals.

- Your thoughts on the 'winner stays' system.
▲ Coach Cho: We benefited the most from Round 3, so I love it (laughs). We were wondering what to show our fans when we were planning our schedule for the 08-09 season, and we came to a conclusion that the benefits of the team league style is dependent on the player's mindsets. Team league style's greatest difficulty is that the players have to be very skilled in order to survive. Our team's players all had great skills, hence it was good for us. As in the past, this will help to change the mood towards our favor.

- Any player you have in mind for Round 4 and 5?
▲ Coach Cho: I'm a coach, so there will no doubt be love for my players.My A team, B team and practice team are all very good, so I am very troubled over who not to choose for Round 4, which starts before April's selections. There are many other players who have not appeared this time round who wants to play, so I'm happy about that. There will no doubt be new players who we can send out in Round 4. If I had to choose, it'll be the zerg Shin Dong Wong (Hydra) and protoss Jang Yoon Chul (By.Snow) who I have in mind. If they practice hard, I believe they will get the chance to appear in Round 4.

- (To Coach Kim Dong Woo) Your thoughts on the win and also, how much did the players prepare?
▲ Coach Kim: Coach Cho has been the main coach but I've always been the number 2 coach. (laughs) I was the main coach for the first time today, so I was happy. I will not be content with just today's outcome, and I want to experience winning the Grand Finals. Our players practiced so hard, you don't even have to ask them how many times they practiced hard to aim for the finals. We really wanted to win, and after two losses we finally won. We worked the hardest amongst all the teams, and hence we could win.

- Your final words?
▲ Coach Cho: Using today's win as a benchmark, we will work even harder, and we will not let our guard down in Round 4 and aim for the Grand Finals and win for our fans.

P.S: My translation isn't perfect, so correct me if I made a mistake somewhere.

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[신한은행]화승 조정웅 감독, “선수들에게 수고했다는 말을 전하고 싶다”

28일, 서울 중구 장충체육관에서 열린 신한은행 위너스 리그 08-09 결승전에서 화승이 CJ의 조병세에게 역올킬을 당하며 아쉽게 준우승에 머물렀다.

화승의 조정웅 감독은 “오늘 열심히 해준 선수들에게 수고했다는 말을 전하고 싶다”며 “지금의 아쉬움은 광안리 무대에서 우승해 털어내겠다”고 말했다.

다음은 조정웅 감독과의 일문일답

- 아쉽게 패했는데
▲ 패배는 항상 아쉽다. 하지만 선수들이 최선을 다해준 것에 만족하고 4라운드를 열심히 준비할 것이다.

- 시작은 좋았다.
▲ 4세트에서 (이)제동이가 저글링을 제대로 보냈다면 승리할 수 있었을 텐데 그러지 못해서 조금 아쉽다. 프로토스를 적극적으로 기용한 것에 비해 결과는 그리 좋지 않았지만 4라운드에서는 잘해줄거라 믿는다. 오늘의 패배가 선수들에게 큰 교훈이 되길 바란다.

- 프로토스를 적극적으로 기용한 이유가 있다면
▲ 지금까지는 이제동-구성훈 체제로 팀을 이끌어왔다. 하지만 4라운드에서는 한계가 있을 것이 분명하기 때문에 프로토스를 육성하기 위해 이번 경기에서 기용해봤다. (노)영훈이의 경우 전략이 엇갈려서 패해서 본인도 많이 아쉬워하더라. 지금 패배를 기회로 더 발전했으면 좋겠다. (임)원기는 긴장을 해서 아쉬운 경기를 한 것 같은데 열심히 다듬어서 4라운드에서는 좋은 모습 보여줄 수 있도록 만들겠다.

- 이제 4라운드를 준비해야 하는데
▲ 4, 5라운드에서 본격적으로 달리겠다. 나는 이제부터 본격적인 시작이라고 생각하고 다음 라운드에서는 잘해서 좋은 모습 보여드리겠다.

- 끝으로 하고 싶은 말은
▲ 우리보다 팬들이 더 아쉬워하는 것 같더라. 이번에 패해서 정말 죄송하고 다음에는 더 좋은 모습으로 지금의 응원에 보답해드리겠다. 사무국에서 아침부터 와서 많은 준비를 하셨는데 이렇게 패해서 죄송하다. 지금의 아쉬움은 광안리 결승전 우승으로 털어내겠다. 끝으로 오늘 열심히 해준 선수들에게 수고했다는 말을 전하고 싶다.

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[신한은행]조규남 감독, 김동우 코치, “광안리에서도 우승하겠다”

28일, 서울 중구 장충체육관에서 열린 신한은행 위너스 리그 08-09 결승전에서 CJ엔투스가 결국 우승을 차지하며 위너스리그 최강자임을 입증했다.

다음은 CJ엔투스 코칭스태프와의 일문일답

- 위너스리그 우승 소감은
▲ 조규남 감독=사실 2006년 창단 이후 회사에서 좋은 지원과 환경을 만들어줬는데 2년 동안 우승을 못해서 미안했다. 오랫동안 기다린 우승이라서 앞으로 더 열심히 할 수 있는 동기부여가 될 것 같고 열심히 도와준 회사와 사무국 직원들께 고마움을 전하고 싶다.


- 올킬패 위기에서 조병세를 출전시킨 이유는
▲ 조규남 감독=이번 위너스 리그 결승에 임하면서 이제동 선수가 선봉으로 출전한 것을 보고 최악의 시나리오를 생각했다. 올킬을 당할지도 모른다는 생각으로 고민을 많이 했다. 마재윤 선수와 변형태, 조병세 선수의 출전 위치를 놓고 고심했다. 전에도 얘기했지만 신인 기용을 염두에 두고 있었기 때문에 가장 좋은 경험을 쌓게 해 주고 싶어 1세트와 4세트에 김정우와 조병세를 출전시킨 것이다. 러시아워3에서 조병세 선수를 내보낼 때는 창단 이후 우리가 우승을 해본 적이 없어서 도전하는 입장으로 시즌에 임했기 때문에 잃을 것이 없다는 마음이었다. 그것이 승리에 큰 도움이 된 것 같다.

- 쉽지 않은 승부였는데
▲ 조규남 감독=CJ전신인 G.O 시절 외부에서는 우리 팀 분위기가 딱딱하다고 했는데 사실 내부적으로는 팀원들간의 돈독함이 대단했다. 고참 선수들이 대거 군입대를 하면서 구멍이 생겼지만 지금 있는 선수들이 제 몫을 다해주면서 팀 전력 향상에 큰 도움이 됐다. 현재 CJ는 2군 숙소를 운영 중이다. 학원 스포츠가 갖춰지지 않은 상황에서 바로 숙소에 합류하면 적응이 힘든데 2군 숙소를 거치게 되면 선수들의 성장에 큰 도움이 된다. 오늘 출전하지 않았지만 밑에서 도움을 준 2군 선수들이 있었기에 지금 1군 선수들이 있을 수 있었다.


- 여러 생각이 들 것 같다
▲ 조규남 감독=처음 시작을 할 때 08-09 시즌에 대해 선수들이 열심히 해줬기 때문에 자신 있었다. 경기를 지더라도 탓 할 수 없을 정도로 열심히 해줬고 경기도 나쁘지 않았다. 이런 경험들이 쌓인다면 위너스리그에서 성적이 나올 거라고 생각했는데 정말로 현실이 됐다. 믿고 따라준 선수들에게 고맙다. 우리가 열심히 노력하고 있기 때문에 페이스가 더 떨어지지 않고 이번에 우승을 할 수 있었다. 이번 우승을 기회로 4라운드에서는 더 강한 팀이 되겠다. 오늘 경험이 더 큰 무대에서 도움이 될 수 있을 것이 확실하기 때문에 반드시 광안리 결승에 진출하겠다.

- 승자연전방식에 대해서 어떻게 생각하는지. 스타선수위주로 출전한다는 지적이 있는데
▲ 조규남 감독=일단은 3라운드에서 가장 큰 수혜를 입었기 때문에 개인적으로 위너스 리그가 사랑스럽다.(웃음) 이번 08-09 시즌 기획을 하면서 팬들에게 볼거리를 주기 위해 고민한 결과 팀배틀 방식의 리그를 채택한 것으로 아는데 신인을 육성하는 부분은 생각의 차이에 달린 것 같다. 팀배틀 방식의 가장 큰 장점이자 단점은 선수 개인의 기본적인 실력이 굉장히 뛰어나야 버틸 수 있다는 것이다. 우리 팀 선수들은 기본실력이 뛰어나기 때문에 잘 맞아떨어졌다. 예전과 마찬가지로 이번에도 분위기 전환을 위한 기폭제가 될 것 같다.

- 4, 5라운드에도 주목할 선수가 있다면
▲ 조규남 감독=감독이니까 선수 사랑은 당연하다. 4월에 숙소 이전을 할 것 같은데 이 기회에 여러가지 개편을 생각하고 있는데 1, 2군과 연습생 모두 버릴 선수가 하나도 없다는 것이 행복한 고민이다. 이번에 출전한 선수들을 제외하고도 다들 두각을 나타내고 있어서 기쁘게 생각한다. 4라운드에서도 새롭게 기용할 선수들이 있는 것은 분명하다. 굳이 얘기하자면 저그의 신동원 선수와 프로토스 장윤철 선수를 염두에 두고 있다. 열심히 한다면 4라운드에서도 출전 기회를 얻을 수 있을 것 같다.

- (김동우 코치에게) 우승 소감과 선수들이 얼만큼 준비했는지 궁금하다
.▲ 김동우 코치=감독님께서는 1등 감독을 많이 해보셨지만 나는 2등 코치만 많이 했던 것 같다.(웃음). 오늘 처음으로 1등 코치를 하게 돼서 기쁘다. 이번으로 만족하지 않고 통합 포스트시즌에서 다시 우승해서 이 기분을 느끼고 싶다. 우리 선수들은 지금까지 매번 결승전을 치르면서 열심히 했느냐고 물을 필요도 없을 정도로 최선을 다했다. 정말 우승하고 싶어서 노력했는데 두 번의 좌절 끝에 드디어 우승을 했다. 모든 팀들 중에서 제일 열심히 했기 때문에 우승을 할 수 있었던 것 같다.

- 마지막 한마디
.▲ 조규남 감독=위너스리그 우승을 기점으로 더 노력하는 CJ엔투스가 될 것이고 4라운드에서 방심하지 않고 열심히 해서 최종 목표인 광안리 무대에서도 팬들이 원하는 우승을 해내고 말겠다.

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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
March 28 2009 14:23 GMT
#2
thanks for translating infinity!! :D:D:D was waiting for this
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Zyarktodt
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States67 Posts
March 28 2009 14:24 GMT
#3
Man JD is pisssed! Fantasy is gonna get raped harder than by.hero... I'm predicting 2-0 Jaedong with Fantasy just giving up after the second game.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 28 2009 14:25 GMT
#4
omg I thought this was smix's hahaha, thanks for the translation btw...
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drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
March 28 2009 14:48 GMT
#5
thank you thank you thank you
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zincsterio
Profile Joined March 2008
119 Posts
March 28 2009 15:00 GMT
#6
Why did they not ask Jaedong the reason for his 5-pool? I suppose it's "psychological warfare" as they like to call it?
Piy
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Scotland3152 Posts
March 28 2009 15:02 GMT
#7
Hopefully Jaedong will take out some frustration on Fantasy. Feel proper bad for him
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BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 28 2009 15:02 GMT
#8
Jaedong is pissed and is probably gonna practice even more now. I feel bad for Fantasy.
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zincsterio
Profile Joined March 2008
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March 28 2009 15:08 GMT
#9
Jaedong's style today was too aggressive. He already won against Savior with a zergling all-in (lo, when I saw that he took drones off gas I was like wtf). But he should have played normal against SkyHigh.

Anyway, all will be forgiven if he takes the OSL.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-28 15:25:50
March 28 2009 15:24 GMT
#10
Did you call his win vs Savior a Zergling all-in? Do you have the slightest understanding of ZvZ what so ever?

If you rewatch the game, both savior and JD scouted wrong with their first OL, and then went basically mirror builds (+1 drone before pool for savior). JDs second OL scounts the right direction while Savior for some reason sends his OL to the center. (Cross scouting)
With the intel that JD had (low ling count from savior) and with the basically nonexistant intel that savior had, JD capitalized on it and raped him HARD.

As soon as his lings was in making havoc, gas was up and running for JD and his spire was just 50% behind saviors.

Look, that game is great example of why JD is soo much better than everyone else on ZvZ. "All-in".. Jesus.

That 5-pool though... Win OSL now!
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
March 28 2009 15:25 GMT
#11
On March 29 2009 00:08 zincsterio wrote:
Jaedong's style today was too aggressive. He already won against Savior with a zergling all-in (lo, when I saw that he took drones off gas I was like wtf). But he should have played normal against SkyHigh.

Anyway, all will be forgiven if he takes the OSL.


There is nothing to forgive, he played awesome today not too agressive.
He almost won both semis and finals alone for his team, he just lost 1 game out of 8 games and his team couldnt seal the victory he server to them.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
zincsterio
Profile Joined March 2008
119 Posts
March 28 2009 15:29 GMT
#12
On March 29 2009 00:25 StylishVODs wrote:
There is nothing to forgive, he played awesome today not too agressive.
He almost won both semis and finals alone for his team, he just lost 1 game out of 8 games and his team couldnt seal the victory he server to them.


You're right of course. All the other Oz players just needed to win one game tonight, but couldn't do it. But I just felt Jaedong's style today was too hyper-aggressive and all-in-ish. In game 1, he played normal, okay, and won with his micro. In game 2 against Iris, he did a 3-gas mass muta. It was effective, but a bit out of character for Jaedong I think. In game 3 against Savior, he did an all-in ling attack. Lol, I was so shocked to see no drones on gas. And in game 4, his 5-pool was a bit much really.

Not faulting Jaedong, perhaps his coach told him to play this way. It just seems that most of the time, his style isn't like this.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 28 2009 15:36 GMT
#13
jaedong doesn't have a style imo

he just does what everyone else does but better
And all is illuminated.
QQplay
Profile Joined February 2009
United States229 Posts
March 28 2009 15:39 GMT
#14
I can't believe the other Hwaseung players couldn't have beaten one person... If they had BackHo, I'm pretty sure SkyHigh would be screwed. Jaedong could've totally beaten SkyHigh with his normal strat and it surprises me he didn't..
EverShine
Profile Joined January 2009
United Kingdom6 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-28 15:45:30
March 28 2009 15:42 GMT
#15
This is the Biggest BS this season, JD has done all the work in this series, all the other THREE players had to do was to win 1 match against a non top class player, and none of them could do it, I feel so bad for JD as he has to do so much, they might is well call it Hwaseung JD since almost every other player in the team is so useless.
EverShine
Profile Joined January 2009
United Kingdom6 Posts
March 28 2009 15:48 GMT
#16
On March 29 2009 00:29 zincsterio wrote:
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On March 29 2009 00:25 StylishVODs wrote:
There is nothing to forgive, he played awesome today not too agressive.
He almost won both semis and finals alone for his team, he just lost 1 game out of 8 games and his team couldnt seal the victory he server to them.


You're right of course. All the other Oz players just needed to win one game tonight, but couldn't do it. But I just felt Jaedong's style today was too hyper-aggressive and all-in-ish. In game 1, he played normal, okay, and won with his micro. In game 2 against Iris, he did a 3-gas mass muta. It was effective, but a bit out of character for Jaedong I think. In game 3 against Savior, he did an all-in ling attack. Lol, I was so shocked to see no drones on gas. And in game 4, his 5-pool was a bit much really.

Not faulting Jaedong, perhaps his coach told him to play this way. It just seems that most of the time, his style isn't like this.


I think JD was confident enough with his ability to win with the all in builds, and no many people can deny that JD's ability
zincsterio
Profile Joined March 2008
119 Posts
March 28 2009 15:51 GMT
#17
On March 29 2009 00:39 QQplay wrote:
I can't believe the other Hwaseung players couldn't have beaten one person... If they had BackHo, I'm pretty sure SkyHigh would be screwed. Jaedong could've totally beaten SkyHigh with his normal strat and it surprises me he didn't..

Not too sure that Backho would have helped them, his PvT is quite suspect. Hiya should have won, but I guess the pressure of playing the 7th game got to him. He's always been a pretty bad player under pressure, that's why he's good as the starter not the finisher.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-28 17:18:40
March 28 2009 15:55 GMT
#18
Uh, if I can translate, do I post it here or do I post a new thread?

Edit: Ah, I'll just post it here. Put it in the OP later if needed, or PM me if I need to make a new topic.

On March 28 2009 23:20 infinity21 wrote:
K I gotta run for the Markham lan but I'll translate the other 2 when I get back.
I hope smix didn't post a translation already lol


I'll translate this since I'm quite free now.

[Proleague] Hwaseung Coach Cho : "I want to say "Good job" to all the (Hwaseung I suppose?) players."

On 28th, Hwaseung got reverse all-killed by CJ's SkyHigh and lost in the Winner's League 08-09 Finals, held in the Seoul Gymnastic Stadium (anyone knows the actual english name of this place?)

Hwaseung's coach Cho Jeong Woong said that '(he) would like to say 'Good job' to all the players who put in their best today", and that '(they'll) definitely win the Grand Finals to make up for this loss."

Next is the interview with coach Cho Jeong Woong.

- You lost just by a bit.
▲ A loss is always disappointing. However, I am satisfied that my players did their best, and we'll work hard for Round 4.

- You started off well.
▲ In game 4, if Jaedong sent the zerglings to the right direction we might have won, but that did not happen, so it was a pity. We played our protoss cards aggressively but the results weren't that good, but I believe they'll do well in Round 4. I hope today's losses will be a great help to them.

- The reason for sending protosses so aggressively?
▲ Up til now, the Jaedong-Hiya combo pulled our team a long way. But in Round 4, there will be a limit to how far they can pull us though. Therefore, to get our protosses to get used to everything, I sent them out. In Young's case, the build and strategy was off and didn't suit Skyhigh's build and led to his loss, which he was very unhappy about. I hope he will develop further through this loss. In Spear's case, he was too nervous, which I believe led to his poor gameplay. I will try my best to guide him further so that he'll perform better in Round 4.

- Now you have to prepare for Round 4.
▲ We'll push ahead head-on in round 4 and 5. I will tell myself that this is a new start, and that I'll show better results in the next round.

- Your final words?
▲ I think the fans are more disappointed than us. I am really sorry for today's loss, and I'll repay all the fan's support by showing better performance next time round. Many people came early to prepare (for supporting us) but because we lost like this, I'm very sorry. I'll shake off this loss by winning in the Grand Finals. Ending off, I'll like to say 'Good job' to all the players who worked hard today.

Next interview -

[Proleague] Cho Gyu Nam coach, Kim Dong Woo coach: "We'll also win in the Grand Finals"

On 28th in the Seoul Gymnastic Stadium (really, I need a proper name for this place), CJ Entus eventually emerged as the undisputed winner of the Winner's League 08-09.

Following up is the interview with the coaching staff.

- Your thoughts on the Winner's League win.
▲ Coach Cho: Actually, after 2006's formation of the team, I've built up a good environment with the company and its employees, but for two years we did not win anything, so I was very sorry. It was a long awaited win, so I believe it'll help us to work even harder, and I'll like to thank the company and the secretariat bureau employees who helped us tremendously.

- Your reason for sending Skyhigh on the verge of being all-killed
▲ Coach Cho: While thinking of this finals, we thought of all worst-case scenarios after seeing Jaedong being the first player. We worried a lot that we might get all-killed by Jaedong. I decided to send Savior, Iris and Skyhigh. I could not say this last time, but I want to give good experience to the newcomers, hence I sent out Effort and Skyhigh for game 1 and 4 respectively. We had not won before, so we treated this as a challenge to us when we sent Skyhigh. I think that contributed a lot to our win today.

- It wasn't an easy fight.
▲ Coach Cho: Before CJ, during the period of G.O, other people would say our team's atmosphere wasn't that good and lively, more of rigid. But the players were actually great within the team. When some went to the army, it felt like there was something missing, as though there was a gap, but our current players did their part and helped to fill up these holes, contributing greatly to the overall development of the team. We are now greatly supporting the B team. If one doesn't train and joins us immediately, it's hard to get used to, but if they train through B team, it's of great help to them. The B team did not play today, but it's because of them that the A team is here right now.

- You must have had a lot of thoughts.
▲ Coach Cho: When Winner's League 08-09 started off, the players did their best, so I was confident. Even if they lost, they practiced so hard that I could not fault them, and besides, the matches weren't so bad. If such experience accumulated, I believed results will show, and that became reality. I am very thankful towards the players who placed their trust in me and followed all the way. We practiced hard, that's why we did not lose our pace, and that's why we could win today. We would take this win to turn ourselves into an even stronger team. Today's experience will definitely help on a larger stage, hence we will definitely make it into the Grand Finals.

- Your thoughts on the 'winner stays' system.
▲ Coach Cho: We benefited the most from Round 3, so I love it (laughs). We were wondering what to show our fans when we were planning our schedule for the 08-09 season, and we came to a conclusion that the benefits of the team league style is dependent on the player's mindsets. Team league style's greatest difficulty is that the players have to be very skilled in order to survive. Our team's players all had great skills, hence it was good for us. As in the past, this will help to change the mood towards our favor.

- Any player you have in mind for Round 4 and 5?
▲ Coach Cho: I'm a coach, so there will no doubt be love for my players.My A team, B team and practice team are all very good, so I am very troubled over who not to choose for Round 4, which starts before April's selections. There are many other players who have not appeared this time round who wants to play, so I'm happy about that. There will no doubt be new players who we can send out in Round 4. If I had to choose, it'll be the zerg Shin Dong Wong (Hydra) and protoss Jang Yoon Chul (By.Snow) who I have in mind. If they practice hard, I believe they will get the chance to appear in Round 4.

- (To Coach Kim Dong Woo) Your thoughts on the win and also, how much did the players prepare?
▲ Coach Kim: Coach Cho has been the main coach but I've always been the number 2 coach. (laughs) I was the main coach for the first time today, so I was happy. I will not be content with just today's outcome, and I want to experience winning the Grand Finals. Our players practiced so hard, you don't even have to ask them how many times they practiced hard to aim for the finals. We really wanted to win, and after two losses we finally won. We worked the hardest amongst all the teams, and hence we could win.

- Your final words?
▲ Coach Cho: Using today's win as a benchmark, we will work even harder, and we will not let our guard down in Round 4 and aim for the Grand Finals and win for our fans.

P.S: My translation isn't perfect, so correct me if I made a mistake somewhere.

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[신한은행]화승 조정웅 감독, “선수들에게 수고했다는 말을 전하고 싶다”

28일, 서울 중구 장충체육관에서 열린 신한은행 위너스 리그 08-09 결승전에서 화승이 CJ의 조병세에게 역올킬을 당하며 아쉽게 준우승에 머물렀다.

화승의 조정웅 감독은 “오늘 열심히 해준 선수들에게 수고했다는 말을 전하고 싶다”며 “지금의 아쉬움은 광안리 무대에서 우승해 털어내겠다”고 말했다.

다음은 조정웅 감독과의 일문일답

- 아쉽게 패했는데
▲ 패배는 항상 아쉽다. 하지만 선수들이 최선을 다해준 것에 만족하고 4라운드를 열심히 준비할 것이다.

- 시작은 좋았다.
▲ 4세트에서 (이)제동이가 저글링을 제대로 보냈다면 승리할 수 있었을 텐데 그러지 못해서 조금 아쉽다. 프로토스를 적극적으로 기용한 것에 비해 결과는 그리 좋지 않았지만 4라운드에서는 잘해줄거라 믿는다. 오늘의 패배가 선수들에게 큰 교훈이 되길 바란다.

- 프로토스를 적극적으로 기용한 이유가 있다면
▲ 지금까지는 이제동-구성훈 체제로 팀을 이끌어왔다. 하지만 4라운드에서는 한계가 있을 것이 분명하기 때문에 프로토스를 육성하기 위해 이번 경기에서 기용해봤다. (노)영훈이의 경우 전략이 엇갈려서 패해서 본인도 많이 아쉬워하더라. 지금 패배를 기회로 더 발전했으면 좋겠다. (임)원기는 긴장을 해서 아쉬운 경기를 한 것 같은데 열심히 다듬어서 4라운드에서는 좋은 모습 보여줄 수 있도록 만들겠다.

- 이제 4라운드를 준비해야 하는데
▲ 4, 5라운드에서 본격적으로 달리겠다. 나는 이제부터 본격적인 시작이라고 생각하고 다음 라운드에서는 잘해서 좋은 모습 보여드리겠다.

- 끝으로 하고 싶은 말은
▲ 우리보다 팬들이 더 아쉬워하는 것 같더라. 이번에 패해서 정말 죄송하고 다음에는 더 좋은 모습으로 지금의 응원에 보답해드리겠다. 사무국에서 아침부터 와서 많은 준비를 하셨는데 이렇게 패해서 죄송하다. 지금의 아쉬움은 광안리 결승전 우승으로 털어내겠다. 끝으로 오늘 열심히 해준 선수들에게 수고했다는 말을 전하고 싶다.

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[신한은행]조규남 감독, 김동우 코치, “광안리에서도 우승하겠다”

28일, 서울 중구 장충체육관에서 열린 신한은행 위너스 리그 08-09 결승전에서 CJ엔투스가 결국 우승을 차지하며 위너스리그 최강자임을 입증했다.

다음은 CJ엔투스 코칭스태프와의 일문일답

- 위너스리그 우승 소감은
▲ 조규남 감독=사실 2006년 창단 이후 회사에서 좋은 지원과 환경을 만들어줬는데 2년 동안 우승을 못해서 미안했다. 오랫동안 기다린 우승이라서 앞으로 더 열심히 할 수 있는 동기부여가 될 것 같고 열심히 도와준 회사와 사무국 직원들께 고마움을 전하고 싶다.


- 올킬패 위기에서 조병세를 출전시킨 이유는
▲ 조규남 감독=이번 위너스 리그 결승에 임하면서 이제동 선수가 선봉으로 출전한 것을 보고 최악의 시나리오를 생각했다. 올킬을 당할지도 모른다는 생각으로 고민을 많이 했다. 마재윤 선수와 변형태, 조병세 선수의 출전 위치를 놓고 고심했다. 전에도 얘기했지만 신인 기용을 염두에 두고 있었기 때문에 가장 좋은 경험을 쌓게 해 주고 싶어 1세트와 4세트에 김정우와 조병세를 출전시킨 것이다. 러시아워3에서 조병세 선수를 내보낼 때는 창단 이후 우리가 우승을 해본 적이 없어서 도전하는 입장으로 시즌에 임했기 때문에 잃을 것이 없다는 마음이었다. 그것이 승리에 큰 도움이 된 것 같다.

- 쉽지 않은 승부였는데
▲ 조규남 감독=CJ전신인 G.O 시절 외부에서는 우리 팀 분위기가 딱딱하다고 했는데 사실 내부적으로는 팀원들간의 돈독함이 대단했다. 고참 선수들이 대거 군입대를 하면서 구멍이 생겼지만 지금 있는 선수들이 제 몫을 다해주면서 팀 전력 향상에 큰 도움이 됐다. 현재 CJ는 2군 숙소를 운영 중이다. 학원 스포츠가 갖춰지지 않은 상황에서 바로 숙소에 합류하면 적응이 힘든데 2군 숙소를 거치게 되면 선수들의 성장에 큰 도움이 된다. 오늘 출전하지 않았지만 밑에서 도움을 준 2군 선수들이 있었기에 지금 1군 선수들이 있을 수 있었다.


- 여러 생각이 들 것 같다
▲ 조규남 감독=처음 시작을 할 때 08-09 시즌에 대해 선수들이 열심히 해줬기 때문에 자신 있었다. 경기를 지더라도 탓 할 수 없을 정도로 열심히 해줬고 경기도 나쁘지 않았다. 이런 경험들이 쌓인다면 위너스리그에서 성적이 나올 거라고 생각했는데 정말로 현실이 됐다. 믿고 따라준 선수들에게 고맙다. 우리가 열심히 노력하고 있기 때문에 페이스가 더 떨어지지 않고 이번에 우승을 할 수 있었다. 이번 우승을 기회로 4라운드에서는 더 강한 팀이 되겠다. 오늘 경험이 더 큰 무대에서 도움이 될 수 있을 것이 확실하기 때문에 반드시 광안리 결승에 진출하겠다.

- 승자연전방식에 대해서 어떻게 생각하는지. 스타선수위주로 출전한다는 지적이 있는데
▲ 조규남 감독=일단은 3라운드에서 가장 큰 수혜를 입었기 때문에 개인적으로 위너스 리그가 사랑스럽다.(웃음) 이번 08-09 시즌 기획을 하면서 팬들에게 볼거리를 주기 위해 고민한 결과 팀배틀 방식의 리그를 채택한 것으로 아는데 신인을 육성하는 부분은 생각의 차이에 달린 것 같다. 팀배틀 방식의 가장 큰 장점이자 단점은 선수 개인의 기본적인 실력이 굉장히 뛰어나야 버틸 수 있다는 것이다. 우리 팀 선수들은 기본실력이 뛰어나기 때문에 잘 맞아떨어졌다. 예전과 마찬가지로 이번에도 분위기 전환을 위한 기폭제가 될 것 같다.

- 4, 5라운드에도 주목할 선수가 있다면
▲ 조규남 감독=감독이니까 선수 사랑은 당연하다. 4월에 숙소 이전을 할 것 같은데 이 기회에 여러가지 개편을 생각하고 있는데 1, 2군과 연습생 모두 버릴 선수가 하나도 없다는 것이 행복한 고민이다. 이번에 출전한 선수들을 제외하고도 다들 두각을 나타내고 있어서 기쁘게 생각한다. 4라운드에서도 새롭게 기용할 선수들이 있는 것은 분명하다. 굳이 얘기하자면 저그의 신동원 선수와 프로토스 장윤철 선수를 염두에 두고 있다. 열심히 한다면 4라운드에서도 출전 기회를 얻을 수 있을 것 같다.

- (김동우 코치에게) 우승 소감과 선수들이 얼만큼 준비했는지 궁금하다
.▲ 김동우 코치=감독님께서는 1등 감독을 많이 해보셨지만 나는 2등 코치만 많이 했던 것 같다.(웃음). 오늘 처음으로 1등 코치를 하게 돼서 기쁘다. 이번으로 만족하지 않고 통합 포스트시즌에서 다시 우승해서 이 기분을 느끼고 싶다. 우리 선수들은 지금까지 매번 결승전을 치르면서 열심히 했느냐고 물을 필요도 없을 정도로 최선을 다했다. 정말 우승하고 싶어서 노력했는데 두 번의 좌절 끝에 드디어 우승을 했다. 모든 팀들 중에서 제일 열심히 했기 때문에 우승을 할 수 있었던 것 같다.

- 마지막 한마디
.▲ 조규남 감독=위너스리그 우승을 기점으로 더 노력하는 CJ엔투스가 될 것이고 4라운드에서 방심하지 않고 열심히 해서 최종 목표인 광안리 무대에서도 팬들이 원하는 우승을 해내고 말겠다.

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Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
March 28 2009 16:24 GMT
#19
*GRRR*

I get so friggin annoyed when people call game 3 all-in. Game 2 was a straight up rape, and game 3 was NOT a all-in...
Mada Mada Dane
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
March 28 2009 16:25 GMT
#20
Thanks for the translations!
Mada Mada Dane
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
March 28 2009 16:38 GMT
#21
thanks for translating!
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
March 28 2009 16:38 GMT
#22
Jaedong vs Skyhigh rivalry go! Skyhigh is the tyrant killer.

Great translation, thanks.
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
March 28 2009 16:54 GMT
#23
Skyhigh is the Legend Killer Killer. Thanks for the translation~
this is my quote.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 28 2009 17:06 GMT
#24
Why did he 5 pool... godammit JD you can just straight up rape the guy, no need to cheese in revenge ;_;

Thanks for translating though :D
zincsterio
Profile Joined March 2008
119 Posts
March 28 2009 17:07 GMT
#25
On March 29 2009 00:24 Kyuki wrote:
Did you call his win vs Savior a Zergling all-in? Do you have the slightest understanding of ZvZ what so ever?

If you rewatch the game, both savior and JD scouted wrong with their first OL, and then went basically mirror builds (+1 drone before pool for savior). JDs second OL scounts the right direction while Savior for some reason sends his OL to the center. (Cross scouting)
With the intel that JD had (low ling count from savior) and with the basically nonexistant intel that savior had, JD capitalized on it and raped him HARD.

As soon as his lings was in making havoc, gas was up and running for JD and his spire was just 50% behind saviors.

Look, that game is great example of why JD is soo much better than everyone else on ZvZ. "All-in".. Jesus.

That 5-pool though... Win OSL now!

I stand corrected. Thanks for giving this analysis, I did not watch carefully enough.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
March 28 2009 17:13 GMT
#26
Skyhigh vs Jaedong next OSL Finals.
deathgodtoss
Profile Joined July 2008
Korea (North)189 Posts
March 28 2009 17:21 GMT
#27
rofl, idra wasnt even mentioned for possible future player for cj in proleague hahahaa

but on a side note, jaedong's ability to adapt in z v z is frightening...
its a shame anytime wasnt there to hold down the fort when jaedong lost with his 5 pool.
but seriously.. spear? you know he is gonna get ass raped by the coach... holy crap why did they even bother picking him up?
god is about as useful as a protoss scout
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
March 28 2009 17:55 GMT
#28
idra is still the toilet man.
555, kthxbai
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States528 Posts
March 28 2009 18:09 GMT
#29
thanks infinity and konadora.
I like how coach Cho credits and supports CJ's B team. No doubt that such support helped in their success.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
March 28 2009 18:10 GMT
#30
great read but seriously stupid question with the 'snipe' thing..
Xellos <3
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
March 28 2009 18:28 GMT
#31
(Z)Jaedong sounds fuckin pissd off as hell...

(T)sKyHigh was so calmed is fuckin amazing!
w/e
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
March 28 2009 19:05 GMT
#32
I wouldnt say skyhigh is legend killer killer or whatever u named him, they are 2-2 total and his loss came from failed 5pool and a cheesbuild on destination, lets not get ahead of ourselves with a firebather vs savior situation shall we? :O
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
March 28 2009 19:17 GMT
#33
Oh well, better luck next time Jaedong. I thought th 5 pool was a good idea as well but it seemed like he hesitated and backed off the attack. It's bittersweet. Jaedong surpassed Oov and Flash, he got 3 kills but damn. You know a player is amazing when you say "man that 3-0 was disappointing". Anyways, set 2 was amazing. It's something to see mutas picking off and harassing an m&m group to delay the push, it's a whole new animal to see them clash head to head and wipe them out! Awesome games.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
March 28 2009 19:32 GMT
#34
Thanks for the translation.
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
March 28 2009 20:01 GMT
#35
cool thx
fuck lag
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 28 2009 20:08 GMT
#36
I like that nickname ... "one in a million man" has a certain ring to it.
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Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
March 28 2009 20:15 GMT
#37
i refuse to believe Skyhigh can piss Jaedong off more then FBH has.
Firebathero is still the best!
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
March 28 2009 20:28 GMT
#38
Jaedong: I could feel CJ’s power today. Although we lost in regular and post season, I’ll sharpen and hone my skills to avenge this loss.
Even after losing Jaedong is skill scary.

I'm glad too see that he's rattled, but far from broken. Hopefully he'll emerge a wiser and more powerful player from this experience.
tutan-kamon
Profile Joined March 2009
9 Posts
March 28 2009 20:29 GMT
#39
great, some interviews with the other loosers from oz would have been great though, to see what hyva and young had to say about their loses and all.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
March 28 2009 20:38 GMT
#40
idra looks photoshopped
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
March 28 2009 20:39 GMT
#41
On March 29 2009 04:05 StylishVODs wrote:
I wouldnt say skyhigh is legend killer killer or whatever u named him, they are 2-2 total and his loss came from failed 5pool and a cheesbuild on destination, lets not get ahead of ourselves with a firebather vs savior situation shall we? :O

Yeah, I'm joking about the Legend Killer Killer whatnot. I was just in shock when Jaedong decided to 5 pool Skyhigh when he beat Flash on the same map. The first thought I had was, "Cheese?! He sees Skyhigh as a bigger threat than Flash?" But then I remember the Destination game and I was like "ahh, yeah." It was just one of those "whoa" moments.

And as I read this back to myself it is apparent that I suck at saying what is on my mind... -_-
this is my quote.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-28 20:41:21
March 28 2009 20:40 GMT
#42
@GTR: I don't see it.

@Ozarugold: I'm guessing his mindset went something like: "REVENGE" and "I can do whatever I want and still win"
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
March 28 2009 20:56 GMT
#43
Jaedong's mindset is amazing. Natural born killar ez

Thx for the translations!
pandabearguy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States252 Posts
March 28 2009 20:59 GMT
#44
skyhigh has such a great mindset

it's ridiculous how composed he is
aka [ucr]pandabearg. much <3
Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
March 28 2009 21:20 GMT
#45
Awesome. Thanks for the translations.
☺ ☻
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
March 28 2009 21:41 GMT
#46
All you people going "(Z)Jaedong why did you 5 pool TT_TT" watch game 2 and think about the amount of fatigue that (Z)Jaedong felt after that game
Its hard enough for some of us to (T)Control 1 (T)Control group of mutas, (Z)Jaedong was controlling 2
This may just be my opinion, but i think (Z)Jaedong went all zergling (T)aTtacK agianst (Z)sAviOr because he was tired. I'm pretty sure that when well rested, (Z)Jaedong would fight with mutas.
In the KTF vs OZ games, i'm pretty sure at the end of the (T)fOrGG game, (Z)Jaedong was not playing as intensely as he was when he faced (T)Iris
I think (Z)Jaedong knew 5 pool wouldn't work agianst (T)Flash, but he thought that maybe it might work on (T)sKyHigh (plus he wanted revenge for previous cheeses)
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
March 28 2009 22:05 GMT
#47
lol Jaedong seems pissed. He wants SkyHigh's blood!
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
berkguyyy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States151 Posts
March 28 2009 22:22 GMT
#48
Just out of the blue, they really should have like Jaedong vs rest of the World special event. Something like Jaedong vs 4 players best suited to take him out. Personally I'd nominate Bisu, Free, Flash, and Skyhigh. That'd be something worth watching.
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
March 28 2009 22:27 GMT
#49
On March 29 2009 07:22 berkguyyy wrote:
Just out of the blue, they really should have like Jaedong vs rest of the World special event. Something like Jaedong vs 4 players best suited to take him out. Personally I'd nominate Bisu, Free, Flash, and Skyhigh. That'd be something worth watching.


I don't think he has the skills to all-kill a team of the best players right now, although it WOULD be entertaining
jaedong forever~
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
March 28 2009 22:34 GMT
#50
Thank you so much for these translations!! Ah.. I'm SO proud of Skyhigh for stepping up as a young'n. I really got to witness firsthand CJ's cohesiveness as a team... and props to Jaedong for performing amazingly well even if he didn't all-kill. I just hope this doesn't ruin his mindset in preparation for the OSL finals...
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Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
March 28 2009 22:50 GMT
#51
On March 29 2009 06:41 OreoBoi wrote:
All you people going "(Z)Jaedong why did you 5 pool TT_TT" watch game 2 and think about the amount of fatigue that (Z)Jaedong felt after that game
Its hard enough for some of us to (T)Control 1 (T)Control group of mutas, (Z)Jaedong was controlling 2
This may just be my opinion, but i think (Z)Jaedong went all zergling (T)aTtacK agianst (Z)sAviOr because he was tired. I'm pretty sure that when well rested, (Z)Jaedong would fight with mutas.
In the KTF vs OZ games, i'm pretty sure at the end of the (T)fOrGG game, (Z)Jaedong was not playing as intensely as he was when he faced (T)Iris
I think (Z)Jaedong knew 5 pool wouldn't work agianst (T)Flash, but he thought that maybe it might work on (T)sKyHigh (plus he wanted revenge for previous cheeses)


Are you joking? :s

Jaedong is probably one of those players that practice the most out of any progamer, he is extremly dedicated and with that has SICK stamina.
First of all - he didnt rape Savior the way he did because he was tired... (I've posted about this already), and secondly I can't see tiredness as a reason for this monster to 5-pool in the FINAL game he would play that evening. That was straight up a way for him to be able to say "Fuck You!" and at the same time bring home the trofy - sadly it failed misserably and I'm sure he's somewhat regretful about it, but I think this experience will only strengthen him.

Even if he had won with a 5-pool I would be disappointed. Beating him straight up after beeing beated by cheese is alot greater for revenge. As in "You can't touch me in straight up play, go back to school".

Meh

Mada Mada Dane
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
March 28 2009 23:20 GMT
#52
JD vs Savior; the mass ling was a bit all-inish.

If savior let's say squezed a backdoor ling scout, JD would have lost that game.

I'm not saying it wasn't the right thing to do, but it was 'putting all your eggs in one basket'.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
March 28 2009 23:53 GMT
#53
I'll summarise:

CJ: Yay!

Jaedong: GRARRR JAEDONG KILL KILLLLL KILLL ::eats keyboard::

Progamer interviews are generally so modest and self-deprecating. Thanking the fans and teammates and whatnot. It's all very nice and helps you respect the players, but it's always such a breath of fresh air when you get an interview with Jaedong. He doesn't mince words.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
March 29 2009 00:13 GMT
#54
On March 29 2009 08:20 niteReloaded wrote:
JD vs Savior; the mass ling was a bit all-inish.

If savior let's say squezed a backdoor ling scout, JD would have lost that game.

I'm not saying it wasn't the right thing to do, but it was 'putting all your eggs in one basket'.


That's what people fail to see. It wasnt "putting all eggs in one basket".

His spire was 50% behind saviors and he was sure to atleast do heavy eco dmg because he was given the opportunity.

I mean if you call that all-in, you can just apply that to any type of advantage a player takes over someone else. T,,T

Gonna stop "defending" JD for that rape now..
Mada Mada Dane
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
March 29 2009 01:25 GMT
#55
As much as I love savior, it's wrong to twist the definition of 'all-in' to defend him.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 29 2009 01:40 GMT
#56
I honestly think this was one of the best ways this could have gone. Fucking Skyhigh doing a reverse all-kill on Jaedong and Oz?

That's just amazing.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 29 2009 01:42 GMT
#57
Thanks infinity21!

On March 29 2009 00:55 konadora wrote:
Uh, if I can translate, do I post it here or do I post a new thread?

Edit: Ah, I'll just post it here. Put it in the OP later if needed, or PM me if I need to make a new topic.

Thanks, I edited it into the OP.
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LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
March 29 2009 01:49 GMT
#58
thanks for the translations!
The_Australian
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia458 Posts
March 29 2009 02:13 GMT
#59
I've been a fan of skyhigh since GOMTV season 2, when he blocked that ramp against Best's zealot on destination with the scv. What an absolute delight this series was. thanks for the translations.
"Nothing should be unstoppable when you see it coming...." - Boxer
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 02:21:37
March 29 2009 02:21 GMT
#60
thanks for translation!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
March 29 2009 02:35 GMT
#61
Thanks a lot for translating guys!
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 29 2009 03:12 GMT
#62
On March 29 2009 10:42 SonuvBob wrote:
Thanks infinity21!

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2009 00:55 konadora wrote:
Uh, if I can translate, do I post it here or do I post a new thread?

Edit: Ah, I'll just post it here. Put it in the OP later if needed, or PM me if I need to make a new topic.

Thanks, I edited it into the OP.

Thanks SonuvBob
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latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
March 29 2009 05:00 GMT
#63
The 5 pool was a great idea! JD wouldn't regret a BO that actually was about to work. He just screwed up by backing away from the all-in. Skyhigh's micro wasn't good enough, and he lost his first 2 marines to JD's first 6 lings. That right there should have been gg, if JD had reinforced his lings. Instead he started making more drones, expanded, didn't even build a sunken, and got ling speed. He screwed himself over, even after he was about to win it with a 5 pool.
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 07:46:25
March 29 2009 05:23 GMT
#64
On March 29 2009 14:00 latent wrote:
The 5 pool was a great idea! JD wouldn't regret a BO that actually was about to work. He just screwed up by backing away from the all-in. Skyhigh's micro wasn't good enough, and he lost his first 2 marines to JD's first 6 lings. That right there should have been gg, if JD had reinforced his lings. Instead he started making more drones, expanded, didn't even build a sunken, and got ling speed. He screwed himself over, even after he was about to win it with a 5 pool.

Anyone think that the lecaf head coach made jaedong throw the game.
Coach:since your going to all kill if u don't throw the 4th game just 5pool and lose, so that the other players can get some exp and level up, don't worry there is no way that out of the entire lecaf team, only you can win a game.
(Z)Jaedong: Okay, np captain
(Z)Jaedong VS (T)sKyHigh
(Z)Jaedong: k time to 5pool and lose
(Z)Jaedong: oh shit i might actually win, this kid fucking sucks
(Z)Jaedong: better fuck up or something

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On March 23 2009 07:33 CDRdude wrote:
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On March 23 2009 06:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On March 23 2009 06:09 NeonFlare wrote:
I finally got around to watch it (it didn't get uploaded to youtube so I had to download it.) and I have to say it was much more interesting than the first episode.

The elimination challenge though felt little staged since it was all about one round, but things like that can happen so who knows.
Only real downside it had was the "VS AI" isolation challenge, should have been bo3 or single match games where everyone plays eachother and count the total scores.

Hopefully the quality increases even further in following episodes.


Can people please stop saying "this was staged" and take my word on this: NONE of the challenges real life / isolation / elimination were staged _at all_

You're full of shit, I know a stage when I see one.
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You can't tell me that it isn't a stage. And you were playing the real life Rock Band challenge on a stage...do you think I'm an idiot? They even say "please leave the stage" at the end. We know what's really going on here.
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Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
March 29 2009 05:55 GMT
#65
Thanks very much!
Respect is everything. ~ARchon
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
March 29 2009 06:20 GMT
#66
Thanks for the translation!
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
March 29 2009 06:25 GMT
#67
"I want to give good experience to the newcomers, hence I sent out Effort and Skyhigh for game 1 and 4 respectively."

Such bullshit! The guy who all killed was just there to "gain experience"?! When CJ sends out a newbie, the newbie usually puts up a decent performance and actually wins half the time. Darkelf a couple of PLs ago spring to mind, and so does nbs against Luxury. CJ's coach always sells himself short. Either he's sending out newbies to gain experience and manages to motivate them enough to play well, or he knows the players are capable of more than outsiders give them credit for. Either way, he's amazing.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
March 29 2009 11:08 GMT
#68
On March 29 2009 15:25 The Storyteller wrote:
"I want to give good experience to the newcomers, hence I sent out Effort and Skyhigh for game 1 and 4 respectively."

Such bullshit! The guy who all killed was just there to "gain experience"?! When CJ sends out a newbie, the newbie usually puts up a decent performance and actually wins half the time. Darkelf a couple of PLs ago spring to mind, and so does nbs against Luxury. CJ's coach always sells himself short. Either he's sending out newbies to gain experience and manages to motivate them enough to play well, or he knows the players are capable of more than outsiders give them credit for. Either way, he's amazing.

Same can be said for Hwaseung sending out Young and Spear though.
POGGERS
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 18:42:06
March 29 2009 18:35 GMT
#69
Thanks for the trans. I was very disappointed when I watched the 3-1 switch into a reverse all kill by skyhigh, but there were some excellent games in there. Poor Spear, and full props to Skyhigh, that was magnificent.

On March 29 2009 14:23 jodogohoo wrote:
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On March 29 2009 14:00 latent wrote:
The 5 pool was a great idea! JD wouldn't regret a BO that actually was about to work. He just screwed up by backing away from the all-in. Skyhigh's micro wasn't good enough, and he lost his first 2 marines to JD's first 6 lings. That right there should have been gg, if JD had reinforced his lings. Instead he started making more drones, expanded, didn't even build a sunken, and got ling speed. He screwed himself over, even after he was about to win it with a 5 pool.

Anyone think that the lecaf head coach made jaedong throw the game.
Coach:since your going to all kill if u don't throw the 4th game just 5pool and lose, so that the other players can get some exp and level up, don't worry there is no way that out of the entire lecaf team, only you can win a game.
(Z)Jaedong: Okay, np captain
(Z)Jaedong VS (T)sKyHigh
(Z)Jaedong: k time to 5pool and lose
(Z)Jaedong: oh shit i might actually win, this kid fucking sucks
(Z)Jaedong: better fuck up or something

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On March 23 2009 07:33 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 06:58 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On March 23 2009 06:09 NeonFlare wrote:
I finally got around to watch it (it didn't get uploaded to youtube so I had to download it.) and I have to say it was much more interesting than the first episode.

The elimination challenge though felt little staged since it was all about one round, but things like that can happen so who knows.
Only real downside it had was the "VS AI" isolation challenge, should have been bo3 or single match games where everyone plays eachother and count the total scores.

Hopefully the quality increases even further in following episodes.


Can people please stop saying "this was staged" and take my word on this: NONE of the challenges real life / isolation / elimination were staged _at all_

You're full of shit, I know a stage when I see one.
[image loading]

[image loading]

You can't tell me that it isn't a stage. And you were playing the real life Rock Band challenge on a stage...do you think I'm an idiot? They even say "please leave the stage" at the end. We know what's really going on here.
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And lol, is this fanboy fanaticism coming out? LJD's my favorite player, but let's face it, he lost on an all in build because of a couple sloppy mistakes. He just swept KTF and 3-1'd CJ, he's allowed to make some mistakes now and again.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
March 29 2009 19:01 GMT
#70
The reason for sending protosses so aggressively?
▲ Up til now, the Jaedong-Hiya combo pulled our team a long way. But in Round 4, there will be a limit to how far they can pull us though. Therefore, to get our protosses to get used to everything, I sent them out. In Young's case, the build and strategy was off and didn't suit Skyhigh's build and led to his loss, which he was very unhappy about. I hope he will develop further through this loss. In Spear's case, he was too nervous, which I believe led to his poor gameplay. I will try my best to guide him further so that he'll perform better in Round 4.


so coach sends out his inexperienced players in the championship. this guy has the easiest job in starcraft and he can't squeeze out just one more win.
malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States361 Posts
March 29 2009 19:27 GMT
#71
I'm new to this, and so I don't really understand the format. Do the coaches have to decide the lineup before the match? If not, why did they sacrifice savior to Jaedong? Here you have a player who can potentially eat up any protoss or terran, but is known to be weak at ZvZ. Seems to make little sense to waste him on the best zvz player of all time..
jnheart35
Profile Joined February 2009
United States178 Posts
March 30 2009 00:23 GMT
#72
On March 29 2009 00:02 BWdero wrote:
Jaedong is pissed and is probably gonna practice even more now. I feel bad for Fantasy.


Agreed.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
March 30 2009 01:11 GMT
#73
On March 30 2009 04:27 malathion wrote:
I'm new to this, and so I don't really understand the format. Do the coaches have to decide the lineup before the match? If not, why did they sacrifice savior to Jaedong? Here you have a player who can potentially eat up any protoss or terran, but is known to be weak at ZvZ. Seems to make little sense to waste him on the best zvz player of all time..

Hype, of course
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The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
March 30 2009 03:06 GMT
#74
On March 29 2009 20:08 konadora wrote:
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On March 29 2009 15:25 The Storyteller wrote:
"I want to give good experience to the newcomers, hence I sent out Effort and Skyhigh for game 1 and 4 respectively."

Such bullshit! The guy who all killed was just there to "gain experience"?! When CJ sends out a newbie, the newbie usually puts up a decent performance and actually wins half the time. Darkelf a couple of PLs ago spring to mind, and so does nbs against Luxury. CJ's coach always sells himself short. Either he's sending out newbies to gain experience and manages to motivate them enough to play well, or he knows the players are capable of more than outsiders give them credit for. Either way, he's amazing.

Same can be said for Hwaseung sending out Young and Spear though.


No, that's different. When Young and Spear went out, the way they played really was to "gain experience". When Skyhigh went up to play... there's no way someone playing like that is just "gaining experience".

Either that or CJ is just fucking scary... an all kill to them is just a new guy just gaining experience. God help their opponents when they really want to win.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
March 30 2009 04:56 GMT
#75
None of these guys are actually newbies. They're playing televised games in Korea. Effort and Skyhigh have been dominant in Proleague, winning games against name brand players and Spear has been playing televised games since the end of 2006.
Sullifam
AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
March 30 2009 17:17 GMT
#76
JD's mad mode activated.
Boxer is the truth.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
March 30 2009 17:31 GMT
#77
CJ is a better team overall imho and they deserve the title.. seriously the rest of Oz can't call themselves champions if Jeadong keeps all-kill-ing..

I guess Oz was caught off guard with Jeadong's loss and all was lost!
Xellos <3
RA
Profile Joined October 2008
Latvia791 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-30 18:41:25
March 30 2009 18:38 GMT
#78
Thanks for the translation, it was very interesting to watch the match and read this as well

SkyHigh surprised me, I knew he's good, but destroying some people like that... Wow, I was in awe.
gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-31 01:47:32
March 31 2009 01:46 GMT
#79
thanks for the translation
I am soooo pissed at OZ... LJD is pimpin, swept KTF and took 3 kills on CJ...
and no one else on his team can win 1 game against (T)sKyHigh.
I will say that yes, Skyhigh is 10th in ELO ranking, but...
I'd have to say, Oz will look a lot better once MustacheZerg, PirateZerg, and OzSucksBallsWithoutMe join the team.
but really, has anyone REALLY been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
March 31 2009 17:33 GMT
#80
I wonder how Jaedong is like in real life. I am literally scared of his face every time he comes out. He looks like he could shoot lasers out of his eyes and cut through steel walls. If anyone deserves a bonjwa title, it's him and only him right now.
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