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SickTighT
Profile Joined April 2007
United States337 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 10:33:12
March 21 2009 10:30 GMT
#141
On March 21 2009 19:14 Camlito wrote:
Seriously people get sooo worked up over idra... it just makes me laugh, honestly. You guys try and be smart, say things that are always said because you hate him for the reason he explained - "i get pissed off when i lose". If idra wasn't BM, he'd be a standard terran in korea who'd just be called a nerd. He wouldn't be critisized by internet psychologists that seem to be everywhere.

I just try and enjoy the drama now .


I'm not even that worked up but his lack of respect irks me

I get mad when I lose too but I don't flame the other person...other than a BM gg...in which case I tell them the game could be over now and I'd gg and leave but since you're a disrespectful bitch I'll go afk and make you kill all my shit

*shrug*
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3319 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 10:40:16
March 21 2009 10:38 GMT
#142
On March 21 2009 17:24 DragoonPK wrote:
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On March 21 2009 13:03 Yaqoob wrote:
On March 21 2009 11:12 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
On March 21 2009 11:05 talismania wrote:
who uses the name kafir? very disrespectful...

"Kafir (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic word meaning "rejecter" or "ingrate," also the term "Kuffar" the plural of the word "Kafir" is used to refer to peasants."

Hmmmmmm

Kafir means to reject and is usually used to refer to non-muslims or disbelievers in Islaam (i.e they rejected the truth --> rejectors). Kuffar is just the plural of 'Kafir'


Not non believers in Islam, but people who dont believe in a single god, hence jews and Christians are not considered kafirs xD

actually technically (in the grammar and Islamic sense) they are but they are usually referred to as 'ahlul-kitab' which means the people of the book (i.e Bible and Torah). People who don't believe in a single god would be mushrik.

Anyways, I don't want to get into Arabic grammar and linguistics cause a word in Arabic can have mulitple meanings especially when used as Islamic Terminology.
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isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 10:54:33
March 21 2009 10:42 GMT
#143
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On March 21 2009 11:36 fearus wrote:
LoL

the phil helmuth of sc

Well, no. Phil is a legend. Idra is not. Not at all.

On March 21 2009 10:47 Megalisk wrote:
Whats the big deal, Idra did some bm, its just him.

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On March 21 2009 10:47 Zoler wrote:
On March 21 2009 10:39 ilistis wrote:
Wow. Where is all that practice going? 8+ hours a day with progamers and yet he still loses to foreigners. tsk tsk.


This is just my own theory but maybe the koreans doesn't really care about IdrA and doesn't let him practice enough against koreans and IdrA is too proud to admit that he's being treated badly.

Maybe this is true, maybe not, I really want to find a reason other than IdrA is bad. I guess it's many conditions like language, culture and stuff that adds up too. Maybe Rekrul takes him out partying too much?


Idra is an asshole, but he doesn't suck at SC, he would own your ass any day.



Relevant input. Zoler beeing better then idra is what zoler was talking about. Ty sir.


On March 21 2009 13:18 yubee wrote:
idra acts like a little bitch when he loses, what else is new


idra acts like a little bitch period


On March 21 2009 14:15 daz wrote:
idra has such a horrible attitude for someones whos trying to become a "professional". seriously do his teammates and coaches know he acts like this? I cant imagine they would tolerate it. I dont even tolerate players on my amateur cs team acting like that. its fucking pathetic


Good question.

On March 21 2009 14:15 daz wrote:
idra has such a horrible attitude for someones whos trying to become a "professional". seriously do his teammates and coaches know he acts like this? I cant imagine they would tolerate it. I dont even tolerate players on my amateur cs team acting like that. its fucking pathetic



On March 21 2009 14:45 IdrA wrote:
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On March 21 2009 14:15 daz wrote:
idra has such a horrible attitude for someones whos trying to become a "professional". seriously do his teammates and coaches know he acts like this? I cant imagine they would tolerate it. I dont even tolerate players on my amateur cs team acting like that. its fucking pathetic

oh hell ive seen one of my teammates disc hacking on iccup
the 'professional' part just means we do this for a living


I like your attitude. It's time to grow up and realize that u might not be as good as you think. That might do u some good and help you improve.

On March 21 2009 14:50 Elite00fm wrote:
wow if you think this game was worth spending like 4 hours making a gigantic post about due to like 3 lines of e-drama, then you might want to step into a random 1v1 game on US east and play.

Why do people flock to shit on this kid? GOD FORBID SOMEONE HAVE BAD MANNERS OVER THE INTERNET.

Also, being an asshole and losing a game doesn't make him a bad player lol.


It's not really about someone beeing BM. It's about our hope in the foreign community acting like:


On March 21 2009 15:14 monstar123 wrote:
Idra doesnt deserve to be a progamer. After 1000 years of hard training he will still lose to foreign players. Cj shoul ban this BM.



On March 21 2009 15:32 Myrkskog wrote:
Idra constantly acts BM because it's the only attention he gets and he is desperate for some recognition, regardless of its nature. If there weren't any threads about what an asshole he was, his name wouldn't been seen until the 140th page.

I'm sure if any of us were as forgettable as Idra and going no where in a country we can't speak the language we would be crying out for any attention we could get also. Take it easy on him.


True.

On March 21 2009 15:54 No_eL wrote:
Strelok wins not only in the game... he wins in the life... Idra its a shame for all the foreigner players...

Strelok make vods for teaching their terran way to another gamers...

Idra its a faggot. The most famous BM around the world.

I hope the koreans realized that they make a mistake with this LITTLE guy.



On March 21 2009 18:06 Jovan wrote:
Just throwing this out there, not entirely related to IdrA vs Strelok but still on the topic.

Recently Boxer had an interview and he was asked what does he hope for and he said for e-sports to be recognized as real sports.

Looking at real sports, BM'ing is often met with either a penalty (bench time, yellow cards, etc) or heavy criticism. Icons like Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, David Beckham are rarely seen talking trash to their opponents (more often than not I see M.J. posters advocating reaching for your goals, which just adds a little bit more difference to what I am about to say).

Now, you have to decide. Do you want to promote BM'ing and laugh at it, or discourage it? The worst thing that can happen in a sport like soccer -- as an example -- is a fan riot, and I don't remember a single time one of those turned out well. I'd rather have more people playing SC and for the "foreigner scene" to be stopped called as such, and instead it all be called "SC scene," but without the role models, you won't get anywhere. I am happy that there's US players in S.K., but you need to have people who promote good sportsmanship if you want to have SC become more than something you play in your bedroom and comment about what some random progamer said/does/is.

Imagine if Boxer was a BMer. Would people like him as much? I've read at quite a few places that he's heralded as one of the people who pushed for e-sports to be recognized at all. He's one of the few "serious" gamers I've seen (the other being Fatal1ty), and I don't think SC would be half as good as it is without someone who's as professional about it as he is.

So yeah, it can either be a past-time game, or a sport, depending on you.



On March 21 2009 18:31 Patriot.dlk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 14:19 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On March 21 2009 11:36 fearus wrote:
LoL

the phil helmuth of sc

I was thinking more like Ziigmund, but Phil Helmuth is a pretty good match too lol, probably even better.


except Phil Helmuth is one of the best players ever and Idra is just one in the bunch



On March 21 2009 19:00 Tonkerchen wrote:
I saw the game yesterday and... LOL'd ahahaha löl#
sry but that's not the attitude that a progamer should have -_-





I just want to add. Promoting BM-players and players who do this for a living is just wrong and I really hope that the American community realizes that too, inspite of Greg beeing their/our only "good" foreigner in Korea. I always hoped he'd do well in Korea, but now I feel like it's time to send the kid home. Give someone who can reach the top a chance instead of a bitter washed up kid with tourettes syndrome. Either grow up and start acting like a professional gamer or just quit son.

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SBelmont
Profile Joined August 2008
United States122 Posts
March 21 2009 10:47 GMT
#144
I bet IdrA and Strelok were talking before the game and the conversation went something like this:

IdrA: Hey lets rile people up!
Strelok: How's that?
IdrA: Well, we'll start with me getting a huge advantange, and then things shall go downhill for me and you'll be victorious.
Strelok: I don't see how that will rile people up though!
IdrA: Simple, I go BM in the middle of the game and at the end.
Strelok: Oh, sure!
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
March 21 2009 10:48 GMT
#145
spoiler those quotes isbunk, you've nearly taken up the entire page jesus.
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isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
March 21 2009 10:54 GMT
#146
On March 21 2009 19:48 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
spoiler those quotes isbunk, you've nearly taken up the entire page jesus.

oki
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404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 10:56:50
March 21 2009 10:55 GMT
#147
I really greatly respect Idra. Why? Because he is probably the most successful troll I've ever seen. He trolls TL threads by proxy of a starcraft replay. He trolled all of you, even rekrul into making a huge drama post. He's basically the most successful troll I've ever seen, but he does it so covertly that nobody stops to think "Maybe I shouldn't shine a light on this!"

Everyone thinks they have something insightful to say or that they can actually change his mind but get real. Idra BM's when he loses. Who cares? Apparently enough of you guys do to make it worth doing for him.

And no, I don't think he bm's just for attention, or atleast not consciously. I just thought about it and if I look at idra from the perspective of an Oakhill or someother huge forum troll, I all of a sudden gain a ton of respect for him.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
March 21 2009 11:04 GMT
#148
drA's attitude was pathetic, I'm very disappointed, I thinked he was friendly and cool... fail ^^
Anyway, gg !
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
March 21 2009 11:14 GMT
#149
On March 21 2009 18:54 Phoned wrote:
McLovin + IdrA = McTerran

"Seth, Seth, Seth. Listen up, ass-face: every day, hundreds of kids log onto ICCUP with fake IDs, and every single one says they're B+. Pssh, how many B+ players do you think there are in this town? It's called fucking strategy, all right?"



hahaha nice one
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 21 2009 11:16 GMT
#150
On March 21 2009 19:38 Yaqoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 17:24 DragoonPK wrote:
On March 21 2009 13:03 Yaqoob wrote:
On March 21 2009 11:12 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
On March 21 2009 11:05 talismania wrote:
who uses the name kafir? very disrespectful...

"Kafir (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic word meaning "rejecter" or "ingrate," also the term "Kuffar" the plural of the word "Kafir" is used to refer to peasants."

Hmmmmmm

Kafir means to reject and is usually used to refer to non-muslims or disbelievers in Islaam (i.e they rejected the truth --> rejectors). Kuffar is just the plural of 'Kafir'


Not non believers in Islam, but people who dont believe in a single god, hence jews and Christians are not considered kafirs xD

actually technically (in the grammar and Islamic sense) they are but they are usually referred to as 'ahlul-kitab' which means the people of the book (i.e Bible and Torah). People who don't believe in a single god would be mushrik.

Anyways, I don't want to get into Arabic grammar and linguistics cause a word in Arabic can have mulitple meanings especially when used as Islamic Terminology.

i was just trying to think of an iccup smurf and googled 'cool words'
that came up defined as an insult that meant godless heathen
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
March 21 2009 11:16 GMT
#151
On March 21 2009 19:55 404.Nintu wrote:
I really greatly respect Idra. Why? Because he is probably the most successful troll I've ever seen. He trolls TL threads by proxy of a starcraft replay. He trolled all of you, even rekrul into making a huge drama post. He's basically the most successful troll I've ever seen, but he does it so covertly that nobody stops to think "Maybe I shouldn't shine a light on this!"

Everyone thinks they have something insightful to say or that they can actually change his mind but get real. Idra BM's when he loses. Who cares? Apparently enough of you guys do to make it worth doing for him.

And no, I don't think he bm's just for attention, or atleast not consciously. I just thought about it and if I look at idra from the perspective of an Oakhill or someother huge forum troll, I all of a sudden gain a ton of respect for him.


I don't think you know what a troll is, which would explain why you like idra.
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kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1355 Posts
March 21 2009 11:16 GMT
#152
give this nerd some love !

gg stre ahah
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janenba56
Profile Joined March 2009
Korea (South)57 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 11:18:47
March 21 2009 11:17 GMT
#153
On March 21 2009 14:41 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 11:38 brad3104 wrote:
Lol has Idra explained himself? or is he just hiding somewhere....I hope he fails in everything...constantly being BM is just annoying. Type GG and gtfo like a man.

whats to explain? i get pissed and say dumb shit when i lose.
strelok was the bigger man and brushed it off and is punishing me by refusing to play me on iccup
while you all are being a bunch of little drama queens. learn from him.


I hope that you do not act like this in our country in the future, you will not get very far and will only make yourself and future foreigners that come here to play starcraft look bad. When you decided to become a programer it became your responsibility to represent all foreigners whether you like it or not.
asdf
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
March 21 2009 11:19 GMT
#154
On March 21 2009 20:17 janenba56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 14:41 IdrA wrote:
On March 21 2009 11:38 brad3104 wrote:
Lol has Idra explained himself? or is he just hiding somewhere....I hope he fails in everything...constantly being BM is just annoying. Type GG and gtfo like a man.

whats to explain? i get pissed and say dumb shit when i lose.
strelok was the bigger man and brushed it off and is punishing me by refusing to play me on iccup
while you all are being a bunch of little drama queens. learn from him.


Please do not act like this in our country, you will not get very far and will only make yourself and future foreigners that come here to play starcraft look bad. When you decided to become a programer it became your responsibility to represent all foreigners whether you like it or not.


Our rep was trashed long ago when most of the white guys who went over there and ended up being a complete waste of time and money.
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SickTighT
Profile Joined April 2007
United States337 Posts
March 21 2009 11:20 GMT
#155
On March 21 2009 19:55 404.Nintu wrote:
Everyone thinks they have something insightful to say or that they can actually change his mind but get real. Idra BM's when he loses. Who cares? Apparently enough of you guys do to make it worth doing for him.


Insightful? Not so much...Truth? Much more likely

I don't care about changing his mind, if he had the balls to do it in person I'm fairly certain I'm not the only one who would make him think twice about doing it again.

He's not really trolling, because when he's speaking about the game and strategies he's very insightful and has a shitload of good points and makes the game look easy to play by the way he describes it. It's just when he gets like this and BM's someone good enough to beat him he won't give credit where credit is due.


Perhaps you consider that trolling?

And again I have a ton of respect for IdrA as far as playing the game of Starcraft goes but it doesn't go an inch past that.
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AltaiR_
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Korea (South)922 Posts
March 21 2009 11:21 GMT
#156
Translator
janenba56
Profile Joined March 2009
Korea (South)57 Posts
March 21 2009 11:26 GMT
#157
On March 21 2009 20:19 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 20:17 janenba56 wrote:
On March 21 2009 14:41 IdrA wrote:
On March 21 2009 11:38 brad3104 wrote:
Lol has Idra explained himself? or is he just hiding somewhere....I hope he fails in everything...constantly being BM is just annoying. Type GG and gtfo like a man.

whats to explain? i get pissed and say dumb shit when i lose.
strelok was the bigger man and brushed it off and is punishing me by refusing to play me on iccup
while you all are being a bunch of little drama queens. learn from him.


Please do not act like this in our country, you will not get very far and will only make yourself and future foreigners that come here to play starcraft look bad. When you decided to become a programer it became your responsibility to represent all foreigners whether you like it or not.


Our rep was trashed long ago when most of the white guys who went over there and ended up being a complete waste of time and money.


So then are you saying that it is OK to continue to trash that reputation?
asdf
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
March 21 2009 11:29 GMT
#158
I consider trolling to be anyone who manipulates people online to lavish attention upon him, even if it's negative attention. I realize it's a loose definition, but that's the way I meant it.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 21 2009 11:41 GMT
#159
On March 21 2009 18:54 Phoned wrote:
McLovin + IdrA = McTerran

"Seth, Seth, Seth. Listen up, ass-face: every day, hundreds of kids log onto ICCUP with fake IDs, and every single one says they're B+. Pssh, how many B+ players do you think there are in this town? It's called fucking strategy, all right?"


LOL
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
March 21 2009 11:57 GMT
#160
For anyone who doesn't get the McLovin reference.

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