On March 21 2009 11:36 fearus wrote:
LoL
the phil helmuth of sc
Well, no. Phil is a legend. Idra is not. Not at all.
On March 21 2009 10:47 Megalisk wrote:Whats the big deal, Idra did some bm, its just him.
Show nested quote +On March 21 2009 10:47 Zoler wrote:On March 21 2009 10:39 ilistis wrote:
Wow. Where is all that practice going? 8+ hours a day with progamers and yet he still loses to foreigners. tsk tsk.
This is just my own theory but maybe the koreans doesn't really care about IdrA and doesn't let him practice enough against koreans and IdrA is too proud to admit that he's being treated badly.
Maybe this is true, maybe not, I really want to find a reason other than IdrA is bad. I guess it's many conditions like language, culture and stuff that adds up too. Maybe Rekrul takes him out partying too much?

Idra is an asshole, but he doesn't suck at SC, he would own your ass any day.
Relevant input. Zoler beeing better then idra is what zoler was talking about. Ty sir.
On March 21 2009 13:18 yubee wrote:
idra acts like a little bitch when he loses, what else is new
idra acts like a little bitch period
On March 21 2009 14:15 daz wrote:
idra has such a horrible attitude for someones whos trying to become a "professional". seriously do his teammates and coaches know he acts like this? I cant imagine they would tolerate it. I dont even tolerate players on my amateur cs team acting like that. its fucking pathetic
Good question.
On March 21 2009 14:15 daz wrote:
idra has such a horrible attitude for someones whos trying to become a "professional". seriously do his teammates and coaches know he acts like this? I cant imagine they would tolerate it. I dont even tolerate players on my amateur cs team acting like that. its fucking pathetic
On March 21 2009 14:45 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2009 14:15 daz wrote:
idra has such a horrible attitude for someones whos trying to become a "professional". seriously do his teammates and coaches know he acts like this? I cant imagine they would tolerate it. I dont even tolerate players on my amateur cs team acting like that. its fucking pathetic
oh hell ive seen one of my teammates disc hacking on iccup
the 'professional' part just means we do this for a living
I like your attitude. It's time to grow up and realize that u might not be as good as you think. That might do u some good and help you improve.
On March 21 2009 14:50 Elite00fm wrote:
wow if you think this game was worth spending like 4 hours making a gigantic post about due to like 3 lines of e-drama, then you might want to step into a random 1v1 game on US east and play.
Why do people flock to shit on this kid? GOD FORBID SOMEONE HAVE BAD MANNERS OVER THE INTERNET.
Also, being an asshole and losing a game doesn't make him a bad player lol.
It's not really about someone beeing BM. It's about our hope in the foreign community acting like:
On March 21 2009 15:14 monstar123 wrote:
Idra doesnt deserve to be a progamer. After 1000 years of hard training he will still lose to foreign players. Cj shoul ban this BM.
On March 21 2009 15:32 Myrkskog wrote:
Idra constantly acts BM because it's the only attention he gets and he is desperate for some recognition, regardless of its nature. If there weren't any threads about what an asshole he was, his name wouldn't been seen until the 140th page.
I'm sure if any of us were as forgettable as Idra and going no where in a country we can't speak the language we would be crying out for any attention we could get also. Take it easy on him.
True.
On March 21 2009 15:54 No_eL wrote:
Strelok wins not only in the game... he wins in the life... Idra its a shame for all the foreigner players...
Strelok make vods for teaching their terran way to another gamers...
Idra its a faggot. The most famous BM around the world.
I hope the koreans realized that they make a mistake with this LITTLE guy.
On March 21 2009 18:06 Jovan wrote:
Just throwing this out there, not entirely related to IdrA vs Strelok but still on the topic.
Recently Boxer had an interview and he was asked what does he hope for and he said for e-sports to be recognized as real sports.
Looking at real sports, BM'ing is often met with either a penalty (bench time, yellow cards, etc) or heavy criticism. Icons like Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, David Beckham are rarely seen talking trash to their opponents (more often than not I see M.J. posters advocating reaching for your goals, which just adds a little bit more difference to what I am about to say).
Now, you have to decide. Do you want to promote BM'ing and laugh at it, or discourage it? The worst thing that can happen in a sport like soccer -- as an example -- is a fan riot, and I don't remember a single time one of those turned out well. I'd rather have more people playing SC and for the "foreigner scene" to be stopped called as such, and instead it all be called "SC scene," but without the role models, you won't get anywhere. I am happy that there's US players in S.K., but you need to have people who promote good sportsmanship if you want to have SC become more than something you play in your bedroom and comment about what some random progamer said/does/is.
Imagine if Boxer was a BMer. Would people like him as much? I've read at quite a few places that he's heralded as one of the people who pushed for e-sports to be recognized at all. He's one of the few "serious" gamers I've seen (the other being Fatal1ty), and I don't think SC would be half as good as it is without someone who's as professional about it as he is.
So yeah, it can either be a past-time game, or a sport, depending on you.
On March 21 2009 18:31 Patriot.dlk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2009 14:19 FrozenArbiter wrote:On March 21 2009 11:36 fearus wrote:
LoL
the phil helmuth of sc
I was thinking more like Ziigmund, but Phil Helmuth is a pretty good match too lol, probably even better.
except Phil Helmuth is one of the best players ever and Idra is just one in the bunch
On March 21 2009 19:00 Tonkerchen wrote:
I saw the game yesterday and... LOL'd ahahaha löl#
sry but that's not the attitude that a progamer should have -_-
I just want to add. Promoting BM-players and players who do this for a living is just wrong and I really hope that the American community realizes that too, inspite of Greg beeing their/our only "good" foreigner in Korea. I always hoped he'd do well in Korea, but now I feel like it's time to send the kid home. Give someone who can reach the top a chance instead of a bitter washed up kid with tourettes syndrome. Either grow up and start acting like a professional gamer or just quit son.