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[Translated] Idra/F91 "Interview" - Page 7

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MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
February 22 2009 00:25 GMT
#121
So then the question would be what kind of relationship f91 and IdrA had at the time of their interview..
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
plastic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States28 Posts
February 22 2009 00:29 GMT
#122
the real question would be who cares
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quiong
Profile Joined January 2008
United States268 Posts
February 22 2009 00:47 GMT
#123
I think there's a difference between talking shit before a game (for hype) and an actual lack of respect.

Very few of us have met Idra personally, so his online persona is all we have to work with. He comes off as someone who likes taking shits on other foreign players, beyond what is necessary to get people "hyped." Perhaps in real life he greatly respects his opponents, but online he simply doesn't show it. His not saying "gg" at the end of the last game doesn't help. It's like refusing to shake hands with your opponents after the match. It's just rude and shows a lack of respect.
tdotkrayz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States136 Posts
February 22 2009 01:19 GMT
#124
On February 22 2009 04:47 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 04:41 haz wrote:
why would you like someone more because everyone hates them? thats dumb

Underdog complex. Maybe he feels like he can relate to him better because he also feels hated by a lot of people? I dunno... Just speculating and making shit up He could also just have an irrational desire to rebel and go against the flow


THIS
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
February 22 2009 01:22 GMT
#125
I think there's a difference between a guy who is actually playing a match trash talking and dudes posting on the internet to say things about that guy when they themselves aren't playing matches.

Ironic that so many people who are like "lololol idra got owned shouldn't have said stuff before his showmatch lololol" are saying so much when they're not good enough to get invited for a showmatch. The fact that a bunch of nobodies on a game forum are saying crap about idra is pretty much proof that you think a bunch of nobodies have the right to talk trash with no repercussions or accountability for their own results or skill, so why would you get your panties all bunched up over idra talking trash?

Humility isn't in and of itself a good thing, especially fake humility. If people are confident and want to trash talk, who are you to tell them otherwise? News flash, not everybody is some shy, awkward Korean movie character bound to some Westerner's perception of Korean culture (that they've probably never experienced first hand anyhow), so I don't see why you would expect everybody (other than yourselves) to act that way.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
plastic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States28 Posts
February 22 2009 01:23 GMT
#126
On February 22 2009 09:47 quiong wrote:
I think there's a difference between talking shit before a game (for hype) and an actual lack of respect.

Very few of us have met Idra personally, so his online persona is all we have to work with. He comes off as someone who likes taking shits on other foreign players, beyond what is necessary to get people "hyped." Perhaps in real life he greatly respects his opponents, but online he simply doesn't show it. His not saying "gg" at the end of the last game doesn't help. It's like refusing to shake hands with your opponents after the match. It's just rude and shows a lack of respect.


OH NOES HOW HORRIBLE

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plastic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States28 Posts
February 22 2009 01:24 GMT
#127
what will this horrible man do next????
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quiong
Profile Joined January 2008
United States268 Posts
February 22 2009 01:48 GMT
#128
On February 22 2009 10:22 MCMcEmcee wrote:
I think there's a difference between a guy who is actually playing a match trash talking and dudes posting on the internet to say things about that guy when they themselves aren't playing matches.

Ironic that so many people who are like "lololol idra got owned shouldn't have said stuff before his showmatch lololol" are saying so much when they're not good enough to get invited for a showmatch. The fact that a bunch of nobodies on a game forum are saying crap about idra is pretty much proof that you think a bunch of nobodies have the right to talk trash with no repercussions or accountability for their own results or skill, so why would you get your panties all bunched up over idra talking trash?



Actually yeah, I think a bunch of nobodies have a right to talk trash with no repercussions. Because they're nobodies.

I can say whatever the fuck I want. The president can't.

Idra thinks of himself as somebody. Like it or not, he's the only foreign SC player right now on a korean proteam. He's our only representative, if you want to describe it like that. Does he have a right to trash talk and be BM? Sure. But he can't expect to do it with no repercussions, since he's not a nobody.

Sounds like a lot of Idra fans expected him to be able to trash talk without any backlash too. Are you delusional? Why are you getting YOUR panties in a bunch over the Idra haters getting their panties in a bunch?
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
February 22 2009 02:48 GMT
#129
No one would be saying anything if Idra wasn't acting like a dick and not even gg'ing at the end of the game. Its just adding further and further onto the bad reputation he already has so its no suprise everyone is going to comment negatively about it.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 22 2009 03:14 GMT
#130
[QUOTE]On February 22 2009 10:48 quiong wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 22 2009 10:22 MCMcEmcee wrote:
I think there's a difference between a guy who is actually playing a match trash talking and dudes posting on the internet to say things about that guy when they themselves aren't playing matches.

Ironic that so many people who are like "lololol idra got owned shouldn't have said stuff before his showmatch lololol" are saying so much when they're not good enough to get invited for a showmatch. The fact that a bunch of nobodies on a game forum are saying crap about idra is pretty much proof that you think a bunch of nobodies have the right to talk trash with no repercussions or accountability for their own results or skill, so why would you get your panties all bunched up over idra talking trash?

[/QUOTE]


I can say whatever the fuck I want. The president can't.
[QUOTE]
Don't get disillusioned by the impersonal interface of the internet. Also, it's called trash talking, people just hate on IdrA for his trash talking because of his normal personality. But if you're going to find something to hate on, don't let it be this because this situation is a losing battle.
Jaedong
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 22 2009 06:00 GMT
#131
On February 22 2009 10:24 plastic wrote:
what will this horrible man do next????


how many one liner's are you going to post in this thread, troll?
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
February 22 2009 06:26 GMT
#132
kind of lessening the blow f91 is a better player than you guys give him credit i mean i have reps of the man beating stork so i mean he is a better player than you guys give him credit it wasnt going to be so easy for idra as he though
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-22 07:21:16
February 22 2009 07:17 GMT
#133
who cares how players behave, all that matters are the results [image loading]
this loss of idra is very disappointing because he's been in korea for too much time to lose a bo7 to f91. no excuses or bullshit please, that won't help him at all considering the fact he has a long way to go before ever trying to consider himself a top foreign player.
on the other hand it has to be said f91 is amazing. i've also had the opportunity to see chinattt at wcg and he amazed me aswell. chinese players are just good, i wish their community was not so distant from ours.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
February 22 2009 07:24 GMT
#134
On February 22 2009 16:17 iG.ClouD wrote:
on the other hand it has to be said f91 is amazing. i've also had the opportunity to see chinattt at wcg and he amazed me aswell. chinese players are just good, i wish their community was not so distant from ours.


I'm really tired of seeing this USA vs Europe vs China hate that goes on. Can't we all just be friends
It felt like gravity.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 22 2009 07:27 GMT
#135
it would suck if Chinese players didn't lag so much + timezone issues make it hard for them to compete in foreign events.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
February 22 2009 07:28 GMT
#136
On February 22 2009 16:17 iG.ClouD wrote:
i wish their community was not so distant from ours.


That is so true.

As someone who frequents both European/American SC forums/sites and Chinese SC forums/sites, I do look at the many posts that are filled with mistakes/misunderstandings/complete bullshit due to a simple lack of communication.

Language barriers are hard to overcome =\
TranslatorBaa!
Strelok
Profile Joined January 2006
Ukraine320 Posts
February 22 2009 07:37 GMT
#137
On February 22 2009 09:17 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Yeah it's all debatable, and boils down to personal opinion. It's just much different actions and I don't see the need to connect them just because they're both called "talking shit". If I call my best friend an asshole, that has a much different meaning and a much different effect than if some stranger calls my best friend an asshole. The relationship between the two people makes a world of difference. People should just be aware. I definitely disapprove of fans talking shit about the players. But yeah I know it'll happen no matter what.


Sad but true

Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8190 Posts
February 22 2009 08:42 GMT
#138
On February 22 2009 16:17 iG.ClouD wrote:
who cares how players behave, all that matters are the results [image loading]
this loss of idra is very disappointing because he's been in korea for too much time to lose a bo7 to f91. no excuses or bullshit please, that won't help him at all considering the fact he has a long way to go before ever trying to consider himself a top foreign player.
on the other hand it has to be said f91 is amazing. i've also had the opportunity to see chinattt at wcg and he amazed me aswell. chinese players are just good, i wish their community was not so distant from ours.

I don't agree.

Imo the competition loses all its interest if players can't show respect to each other. A competition is a fight against yourself. When people stop respecting each other, the whole thing becomes just stupid.

And, as I said before, being cocky reveals a problem of self confidence. You can't be a top player lacking self-confidence.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
cRaZypYRo
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany191 Posts
February 22 2009 09:57 GMT
#139
nony go back to korea and show us foreign skill

the games of idra were just embarrassing
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
February 22 2009 10:36 GMT
#140
On February 22 2009 17:42 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 16:17 iG.ClouD wrote:
who cares how players behave, all that matters are the results [image loading]
this loss of idra is very disappointing because he's been in korea for too much time to lose a bo7 to f91. no excuses or bullshit please, that won't help him at all considering the fact he has a long way to go before ever trying to consider himself a top foreign player.
on the other hand it has to be said f91 is amazing. i've also had the opportunity to see chinattt at wcg and he amazed me aswell. chinese players are just good, i wish their community was not so distant from ours.

I don't agree.

Imo the competition loses all its interest if players can't show respect to each other. A competition is a fight against yourself. When people stop respecting each other, the whole thing becomes just stupid.

And, as I said before, being cocky reveals a problem of self confidence. You can't be a top player lacking self-confidence.


ehh the one thing annoying about a lot of people on this site is that none of them have really followed pro sports. I'm not saying you have to like pro sports, that's definitely 100% a matter of personal opinion. But most people who watch pro sports would never say something like this because they understand how false a statement such as "the competition loses all its interest if players can't show respect to each other" is
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