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United States889 Posts
I would rather be ashes than dust!
I would rather that my spark should burn out
in a brilliant Blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot.
I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom
of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet.
The function of man is to Live, not to exist.
I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them.
I shall use my time.
-Jack London
Save the Last Dance
As fans of StarCraft, we’re fascinated by the old-timers. We Love underdogs, but we Love our personalities of yesteryear even more. It’s a curious phenomenon that, being a die-hard Zerg (and by extension,  Jaedong) fan, that I found myself cheering for  Sunny in the ACE v Oz match. We cheered when ACE v FOX gave us NaDa v  Anytime, more than we cheered when KTF v Oz gave us Flash v Jaedong.
I remember getting excited every time KTF and ACE faced off, in hopes that the coaches were as nostalgic as I hoped they were. Don’t get me wrong; I haven’t been following progaming since the times of BoxeR and YellOw, but who could resist the prospect of another peek at the greatest Rivalry in StarCraft?
And we also feel despair as the old-timers lose their grip on the game they once dominated.
More often than not, the old-timers lose and we sigh and wait for ACE to send another of our washed-up heroes. However, every once in a while, after we’ve given up hope that one of our favorites has finally reached the end of the Line, that they’re not the player they once were, we get one Last look, and that magical occurrence: the comeback.
Sometimes it isn’t an old-timer. Sometimes it’s a former bonjwa, sometimes it’s a player who never made an impact giving it another shot. But each time, we’re thrilled. We can’t wait for the next game, and the next S-class victim of our first idols. Nobody cheered harder for YellOw, except for maybe Last Romantic, than me in the Classic season 1. He showed us he still had the game, and reminded us of what made his generation of players great: their heads. YellOw’s Classic run was, we all knew, his Last, but he gave it all he had the final time around.
There have been other comebacks like Jin Ho’s, some longer, some shorter, some more glorious or more frequent. Following this paragraph, I profile several comebacks of three distinct variants. I have classified the different types of comeback and provided examples, but first, there is the pivotal question: what’s in a career comeback?
From what I’ve investigated, and I admit I have limited data, particularly in comparison to my Last two articles, I can say these things for sure: a career comeback is a prolonged return to approximate original form after a prolonged removal from that form. I have defined this temporally, which may seem counter-intuitive, but I explain it this way: slumping players play fewer games. A return to form is correlated to two things: confidence and practice. This is consistent with intuition, I think. StarCraft is a very mental game, but there is doubtless a physical component. A temporal assessment rather than an assessment dependant on a constant number of games has the advantage of being perfectly accurate on, brace for it, time. An assessment based on the number of games up until a present range depending on an arbitrary player ‘form’ or baseline win rate would dramatically and deleteriously extend and skew periods of slumps until well past a recovery.
Now, from my examination, I am prepared to say that there are three types of comeback. Please forgive the cliché names.
The Roman Candle
This type, I think, is most common. It is fairly simple; a player comes on the scene, starts performing well for some time, consistently, and then a traumatic event, or perhaps a strong stylistic counter, or even general adaptation of the game, happens, and a slump ensues. After several months, or longer, of significant underperformance as juxtaposed against the consistent pre-event performance, a resurgence occurs.
This resurgence may be brief, maybe only a month or two, or it could be much longer. The necessary provision, and this is not arbitrary, is that the resurgent period does not exceed one cycle of the individual leagues. This is precisely why I like to call it the Roman candle, because it is in and out in a flash, the mystical one Last run. Invariably, these fail somewhere along the Line. Of course, this definition is not limited to individual leagues/3-4 month cycles. The example I took for this was XellOs’ 4 month late 2006 resurgence.
After the end of his dominant period, which, according to my fact-finding expedition, found its informal end on the 25th of October, 2005, XellOs slumped hard. His dominant-era win rate was approximately 62.28%, falling to 51.1% in the nine month period between 10-25-05 and his resurgent period between 8-4-06 to 12-14-06. During that time, XellOs was again rocking at 61.1%. But XellOs woke up on December 15th, 2006, and realized that the magic was gone. Since that day, XellOs’ overall win rate is a dismal 43.59%.
There are a few more examples of Roman candles that I can think of. I’m afraid Pusan just slumped out of a Roman candle period. Between 4-5-07 and 12-16-08, Pusan was at a 60.34% win rate. Between 5-17-2005 and 1-27-06, Pusan was at a solid 60%, then he slumped to a nasty 48.15% (26-28), Only to swing up, and now back down. I’d say it looks like he’s not coming back up. He’s 0-5 in 2009. DaezanG is another pretty clear example. There’s another name I should put here right now, but I can’t make myself do it. See if you can guess who it is before I profile him. It isn’t that hard.
The Phoenix
I’m gonna go straight up and say it. I don’t like the name because it’s pompous, corny, and cliché all at the same time, but it is apt for the description of this kind of comeback. I think this is well described with an example, so I’m going straight to the profile after a very brief overview. This comeback could be described simply as coming out of a protracted slump, but it’s far more than that. This is the renewal of a career in a dramatic way. To illustrate how it’s not just removal from a violent slump, consider Jaedong after being derailed by Flash. Jaedong slumped, but slowly returned to somewhere close to form. That is the rational and expected fluctuation in a career. The Phoenix is the sudden and violent return of a player, and then that player maintaining heightened performance with consistency for a very long time.
Here I examine the Classic case of this: July. July came out of nowhere, embarrassed a top player, and snagged a Golden Mouse. After his first few OSLs, July hit a wall, and we all knew he was never coming back. The players were just too good today, his old-school Style wouldn’t cut it against BeSt’s sick macro. We all, to our shame, forgot one thing: July is a StarCraft genius. Still, after trades and a 50.89% winrate post 9-23-05, it was common knowledge that July was done. Fortunately for Zerg fans, he wasn’t, and since 2-28-08 he’s been at a 65.31 win rate. That’s higher than before his slump. July is a beast.
The NaDa Syndrome
I’m just going to profile NaDa and that’s going to be the explanation, because I don’t understand the data. At all.
Here goes:
Through 2-26-2003, NaDa was 73-30 (70.87%)
To 9-12-2003, NaDa was at 33-29 (53.23%)
To 3-25-04, NaDa went 45-19 (70.31%)
To 11-14-04, NaDa went 34-28 (54.84%)
To 3-5-2005, NaDa went 43-18 (70.49%)
To the end of 2005 NaDa went BACK to 23-23 (50%)
From jan 1 '06 to sept 1 06 NaDa climbed up to 60%, going 18-12
From there NaDa finds consistency at ~55% winrate, with fluctuations from that point barely if ever exceeding 7% over any significant time frame. For 2 years, NaDa’s win rate fluctuated more than Rosie O’Donnell’s blood pressure. The most salient feature of these data is that these flips are never for a short period of time. The shortest duration is NaDa’s final return to 70%, but in those 4 months, NaDa still played 61 games. So the real question is, is this a comeback? I grappled with that question before listing it. In the end, I figured that it could really be nothing else. Long periods of complete domination interspersed with long periods of mediocrity, finally settling with consistent mediocrity. The other consideration is that it could merely be the simple fluctuation of a career, that players have hot streaks and cold streaks, and that’s how they play. There’s only one problem with that: it isn’t the way that most players play. Sure, a good many players do have hot and cold streaks. That is not being contested. What distinguishes this type of comeback from simple career fluctuation is the sheer duration, and the violence of the swings. Career fluctuation would not swing so violently, but here we see NaDa’s win rate frequently and wildly swinging from mediocre to incredibly dominant. A 70% win rate over a period of months is a rare occurrence. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, but only a few S-class players will Ever see that kind of streak over a couple of months, and at that usually only once or maybe twice. NaDa hit over 70% three times for prolonged periods. That is special. As such, this is the rarest type of ‘comeback’ if you will. The only other one who I have data for is Light (42.11-64.29-43.48-60-68.75-45.52-59.18) but if there are doubters about this one I suppose I could sift through and find a few more.
In Front of Our Very Eyes
So we come, Really, to the elephant in the room if we’re discussing comebacks.
Ma Jae Yoon has been on Fire. He’s broken his streak for consecutive wins, and he’s beaten some of the best players around. Granted, his latest MSL games were shaky, but he made it through with a good strategic decision, which shows that his mind is in shape.
Nearly every MJY fan, and indeed nearly all of TL, has been examining practically every play in every one of MJY’s most recent games, so there’s no need for me to go in depth. It looks like, from the perspective of the data, that MJY has fired off a Roman candle. I have several reservations about that ascription, including his win against Bisu, his strategic builds, and the breaking of his streak, but really the data points to a Roman candle. Here’s why:
From 8-16-03 to 3-2-07, MJY was 116-59 (66.29%)
From 3-3-07 to 9-20-08, he sucked it up at 51-53 (49.04%)
Since then, he’s gone 21-11 (65.63%)
So on first examination, the percentages and time intervals are classic. Dominant era, slump time, return to form, and then a final, precipitous fall, which we obviously have not seen yet. You could look at this, point to the July data and say ‘Could be that one!’ Yes, it could be that one, too, but there are a number of reasons why I think that it isn’t.
So I’ve stated the obvious. Anybody who has read the article can tell which MJY may be and why. Anybody even who hasn’t read this can tell that the future of the Maestro’s career hinges on this Starleague run, and knowing MJY, even despite his post-MSL interview, nothing but first place will leave him walking away satisfied.
His next set is against a Zerg. We don’t know which, but put this in perspective: YellOw[ArnC] is 3-6 career vs MJY, and his overall ZvZ win rate is below 50%, and ZerO is 0-1 v MJY, and has a 50% ZvZ win rate. Since his return, inaugurated by a ZvZ, MJY is 9-2 in the matchup. None of his opponents were particularly good in the matchup, but as has been established, neither are Yarnc and ZerO.
If this postulated categorization of comebacks has true merit, then it must be able to make some accurate predictions at least at greater frequency than TheRock wins games. So I could spit out the easy ones: Anytime, if he hasn’t already sputtered out, will, and Light will fluctuate some more before finding consistent mediocrity. That would take care of both the Roman candle and the NaDa syndrome. The final prediction regards, you guessed it, MJY.
So here is my very gutsy 2-part prediction. Part 1: If MJY wins the Lost Saga MSL, his return will be protracted, and he will again play with the S-class.
I had originally planned this section as a big hype for MJY’s side of the MSL bracket, and despite everybody winning who I thought would win (the outcome of Yarnc v ZerO doesn’t particularly interest or concern me, as I explained above, but if you’re dissatisfied, I called Yarnc), it does seem to fit, so I’ll summarize and conclude in the same section:
No matter how this Lost Saga bracket turns out, somebody will get a chance at glory. For some, it is a coveted and desperate second chance, the fulfillment of a comeback. For others it is the fulfillment of promise. With this in mind, you may be wondering what the second part of my ‘very gutsy’ and rather irrational prediction is.
I’m gonna regret it, I know, but, like with the old-timers, who we cheer for despite our better judgment and who we hope for against our reason, this is one of the best parts about being a true StarCraft fan:
My prediction:
+ Show Spoiler +Lost Saga MSL 2009 Finals: sAviOr 3-1 Jangbi
Edit: Spelling=fail
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Baa?21243 Posts
I predict [NC]YellOw winning the next starleague.
And also, very good write-up, agree. We have to support the old school players. Because at heart, even if it seems that Jaedong does better than YellOw, Flash better than Boxer, Bisu better than Reach, at heart, we still love our old idols <3
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Braavos36375 Posts
Good article and style. I agree particularly with the differences between Savior and July in their respective resurgences, which I think is mostly a product of how they were pre-slump. Imo, players that were extremely dominant for a long period of time pre-slump have a harder time coming back from that slump. I'd guess this is mainly psychological, but it makes sense, as players who aren't used to losing and recovering from losing don't deal with it well. Savior watching old VODs of himself and being in denial for the greater part of 2008 about what it will take to fully return is the largely the reason why it took so long.
Looking at this MSL, I knew the largest hurdle for Savior would be Survivor and Ro32. In Bo3/Bo5s, he can play toe to toe with just about anyone outside of Flash and Jaedong (I would put Bisu here but after that Neo Harmony game, who knows?). I've been extremely superstitious about this as last time when I wrote a lot re: Savior's run, he was summarily eliminated in horrible fashion. Keep the dream alive: MJY to MSL Finals. Even if he's a "Roman Candle", I still greatly enjoyed this run. Last dance, indeed.
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There's something that I can't quite pin my finger on about players wanting to make a comeback. If I had to guess though, it would be that the players actually appreciate the wins more than the "modern" top players.
When oov came out in Winners League and farmed up some key wins, you can literally see him going crazy inside as if he's happy to finally tell himself that he hasn't quite lost it just yet.
When Chrh played against Bisu in Proleague 07, he was grinning from ear to ear well before the match was even over.
I'm not in any position to make these assumptions, but it just always looks like people who have lost their ability to win make for so many more emotionally attaching games when they make a comeback.
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Even if this is a Roman Candle I'd still have to thank Savior for giving some of the newer people around here a view of what he used to be like, even if it's not completely there yet. You very rarely get to see a player with such incredible gaming sense play nowadays in an era of macro and full on mechanics.
MJY for MSL if only to see that sense in action again.
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Huge article and interesting read.
So true about the July comeback. I think it might have something to do w/ motivation or desire invested in the game. As you said, he is a great player (when he wants to be) and can obviously turn on his gosu-ness when he wants, through practicing and what not.. His display of desire for the golden-mouse during that starleague finals when he 3-0'd BeSt was surprising to say the least. I had such high hopes for Best in that series.. him coming off such a stellar season really making a name for himself and establishing himself as one of the premiere Dragons of the Golden Age of Protoss.
It's also nice to that [Oops]Reach is making a comeback w/ some strong performances. Hopefully he'll make another major attempt at being one of the staples in the Protoss ranks after his term is over w/ the Air-Force (like Boxers doing). GoodLuck for the Hero-Protoss!
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I don't like how they're only referring to these top gamers w/ only the likes of Flash and Jaedong but not including Bisu... I mean.. that's wtf?!
Bisu (like it or not) has done more and accomplished more w/ Protoss than ANY OTHER Protoss in history. He's also recently 3-0'd Flash in some tournament and Best also just man-handled Flash in the lost-saga MSL..
Since ppl are obviously trying to list a top-gamer of each race, using Flash/T, Jaedong/Z.. it only makes fair, justifiable sense to include Bisu/P. C'mon ppl!
GL
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9070 Posts
awesome job Arrian , I really love your job.
As for comebacks I expect Reach to do great in the months to come and oov will most likely make it into another SL, but only time will tell. For me its like this with the slumping players. Some of them, even in the time of their deepest fall, are managing to keep the good mechanics and you get the feeling there should be some confidence issue or smth like that. That was the case with Bisu for example in the beginning of the last year, he was just doing it wrong for some odd reason, and I believe savior had the same problem- he still has what it takes and his playing style is not really that much outdated and washed out.
July on the other hand is just amazing, his ZvP is like no other, and thou he relies sometimes way too much on low econ games and all-ins it works for him, because he is very confident in his great timings and control. To make a successful comeback the old stars must adapt, or like july be unique. The fact that NaDa is still there and July won the gold mouse recently says that old legends can make it both ways
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Very nicely written, the analysis and statistics were interesting. Good job.
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
Wow, thank you for this. Being still somewhat a newcomer to SC and the world of progaming this article really opened my eyes. Organization, substance, awesome job.
but, like with the old-timers, who we cheer for despite our better judgment and who we hope for against our reason, this is one of the best parts about being a true StarCraft fan
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this was really unique.2 thumbs up !
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
very interesting perspective, with good analysis. i know as much about nada's swings as anyone else but it's still shocking to see the actual numbers between them, goodness gracious the man is just nuts. from break even to SEVENTY PERCENT!!!! it's been said over and over, but i hope everyone can appreciate that achieving this obscene winrate in three distinct eras of starcraft is just... disgusting.
super minor correction in an otherwise excellent article, and only pointing it out because it's used prominently: + Show Spoiler +
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On February 20 2009 09:57 Sosha wrote:Huge article and interesting read. So true about the July comeback. I think it might have something to do w/ motivation or desire invested in the game. As you said, he is a great player (when he wants to be) and can obviously turn on his gosu-ness when he wants, through practicing and what not.. His display of desire for the golden-mouse during that starleague finals when he 3-0'd BeSt was surprising to say the least. I had such high hopes for Best in that series.. him coming off such a stellar season really making a name for himself and establishing himself as one of the premiere Dragons of the Golden Age of Protoss. It's also nice to that [Oops]Reach is making a comeback w/ some strong performances. Hopefully he'll make another major attempt at being one of the staples in the Protoss ranks after his term is over w/ the Air-Force (like Boxers doing). GoodLuck for the Hero-Protoss! edit: I don't like how they're only referring to these top gamers w/ only the likes of Flash and Jaedong but not including Bisu... I mean.. that's wtf?! Bisu (like it or not) has done more and accomplished more w/ Protoss than ANY OTHER Protoss in history. He's also recently 3-0'd Flash in some tournament and Best also just man-handled Flash in the lost-saga MSL.. Since ppl are obviously trying to list a top-gamer of each race, using Flash/T, Jaedong/Z.. it only makes fair, justifiable sense to include Bisu/P. C'mon ppl! GL
Bisu is in noway a focus of this article and neither is flash or jaedong who are just brought up to make a point this is just blatant annoying bisu fanboism.
-ps great read i thoroughly enjoyed it and definetly consider it FE worthy.
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is awesome32274 Posts
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On February 20 2009 12:05 intrigue wrote: otherwise excellent article, and only pointing it out because it's used prominently: + Show Spoiler +
just replace it with "fenix" and problem is solved :D
as an extra bonus, it actually makes sense, with the whole zlot -> goon deal... but that's unimportant
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StarCraft is so great :']
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Great article. I love reading about stuff like this.
I honestly think Savior is done for. He won't win this league. He won't resurge again. He will slowly flutter off the scene. Sorry, dreamers ): I kind of like him in a way too, but not that much to believe.
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On February 20 2009 12:30 Crahptacular wrote:just replace it with "fenix" and problem is solved :D as an extra bonus, it actually makes sense, with the whole zlot -> goon deal... but that's unimportant
OH SNAP
MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE HERO'S NAME IS FENIX?!
COULD IT BE?!
NOWAI~
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United States17042 Posts
Nada's swings are amazing, and the sheer fact that he's still competitive is a testament to how much he practices, as well as how dedicated he is to this game.
Not a teacher like Boxer.
Not a master of domination like oov.
But as a champion?
There is none other than Lee Yun Yeol.
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CA10828 Posts
On February 20 2009 13:11 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Nada's swings are amazing, and the sheer fact that he's still competitive is a testament to how much he practices, as well as how dedicated he is to this game.
Not a teacher like Boxer.
Not a master of domination like oov.
But as a champion?
There is none other than Lee Yun Yeol.
hehe well i can dispute that
not a teacher like boxer? he has mentored 3 key terran players. baby is still up and coming and has great potential but no real results yet. mind is without a doubt one of the best terrans on the scene. and flash is, well, flash.
not a master of domination? 앞마당 먹은 이윤열은 막을 수 없다. (you cannot stop lee yoon yeol when he takes his natural). he is considered one of the 4 bonjwas for a reason.
and of course, he is the winningest progamer ever.
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On February 20 2009 12:38 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2009 12:30 Crahptacular wrote:On February 20 2009 12:05 intrigue wrote: otherwise excellent article, and only pointing it out because it's used prominently: + Show Spoiler + just replace it with "fenix" and problem is solved :D as an extra bonus, it actually makes sense, with the whole zlot -> goon deal... but that's unimportant OH SNAP MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE HERO'S NAME IS FENIX?! COULD IT BE?! NOWAI~
WOAH, holy crap that just blew my mind!
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WOW. What a read!
I really wish I'd been around to see most of this history T.T
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On February 20 2009 16:18 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2009 12:38 fanatacist wrote:On February 20 2009 12:30 Crahptacular wrote:On February 20 2009 12:05 intrigue wrote: otherwise excellent article, and only pointing it out because it's used prominently: + Show Spoiler + just replace it with "fenix" and problem is solved :D as an extra bonus, it actually makes sense, with the whole zlot -> goon deal... but that's unimportant OH SNAP MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE HERO'S NAME IS FENIX?! COULD IT BE?! NOWAI~ WOAH, holy crap that just blew my mind!
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
WORLD CRASHING DOWN AROUND ME
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coincidence really. Just because it happened to some other players doesn't really mean anything. He could be around for a while or he could sink into nothing again...we'll see.
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savior goes 3:0 against bisu in the final (if the brackets do allow this 
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On February 21 2009 22:02 cRaZypYRo wrote:savior goes 3:0 against bisu in the final (if the brackets do allow this
I'm afraid the brackets don't allow this at all seeing as Bisu was dropped out of the MSL in the group stages...
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Hehehe, Fenix died to a spawn broodling.
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On February 21 2009 22:02 cRaZypYRo wrote:savior goes 3:0 against bisu in the final (if the brackets do allow this
bisu was eliminated by savior and i think zero in group stages.. didnt u watch the game? savior vs bisu epicness?
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Good prediction. Savior vs Jangbi 3:1 or (3:0)
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Lol Roman Candle is just like a part of a biography of Napoleon, kind of. Lol
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I think same logic applies to Bisu
His first game on GOMTV1 MSL until the finals of GOMTV3 MSL, he went 59-31 (65.56%), quite nice isn't it? Then he wakes up next day, he feels his bonjwa magic but suddenly he got crushed, his confidence got crushed, his mental state was crushed (save for Bisu vs Savior epic showdown)
and he was pathetic. He got owned by Stork 0-3, Xellos saved him in Bacchus osl, and he showed good games vs flash but this is his only good games during that dark period. He even needed to cheese against baby to qualify to the clubday msl.
Then something happened to him, he woke up, prapared to qualify the osl, his opponent was iris, and the games were close, he was still nowhere at his prime but actually he remembered how to win a serie.
Still he barely qualified through ro8 of incruit osl, lost a game vs FBH in clubday msl, but actually he started to win. Despite his loss vs Stork, his play was inspiring, and he played good starcraft. Then he just stormed through clubday msl and gom, he won 2 titles in one swipe and during this period he showed us that if he wants to win, he will win.
But suddenly, he dropped 4 games in osl and msl, he was out from both leagues but sc gods do not allow this and they got kicked backho's ass in order to bisu can qualify to OSL. And he qualified in a spectacular fashion, going 6-0.
As i'm writing this, even during his 1st prime bisu always plays in proleague poorly. Despite kicking everybodys face in starleagues, his proleague results were always abysmal. But now we have a difference, he is 10-4 in winners league and 15-3 in Round 1 and 2, making a combined record 25-7.
Are you curious about his recent record?
68-22 (75.56%) since his games vs iris in incruit osl. And more important, he's 13-2 in BoX series.
Watch Bisu's glorious OSL run, this OSL belongs to him.
To OP:I almost forgot , that was a nice read man. 
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On February 23 2009 03:16 Hyperionnn wrote:I think same logic applies to Bisu His first game on GOMTV1 MSL until the finals of GOMTV3 MSL, he went 59-31 (65.56%), quite nice isn't it? Then he wakes up next day, he feels his bonjwa magic but suddenly he got crushed, his confidence got crushed, his mental state was crushed (save for Bisu vs Savior epic showdown) and he was pathetic. He got owned by Stork 0-3, Xellos saved him in Bacchus osl, and he showed good games vs flash but this is his only good games during that dark period. He even needed to cheese against baby to qualify to the clubday msl. Then something happened to him, he woke up, prapared to qualify the osl, his opponent was iris, and the games were close, he was still nowhere at his prime but actually he remembered how to win a serie. Still he barely qualified through ro8 of incruit osl, lost a game vs FBH in clubday msl, but actually he started to win. Despite his loss vs Stork, his play was inspiring, and he played good starcraft. Then he just stormed through clubday msl and gom, he won 2 titles in one swipe and during this period he showed us that if he wants to win, he will win. But suddenly, he dropped 4 games in osl and msl, he was out from both leagues but sc gods do not allow this and they got kicked backho's ass in order to bisu can qualify to OSL. And he qualified in a spectacular fashion, going 6-0. As i'm writing this, even during his 1st prime bisu always plays in proleague poorly. Despite kicking everybodys face in starleagues, his proleague results were always abysmal. But now we have a difference, he is 10-4 in winners league and 15-3 in Round 1 and 2, making a combined record 25-7. Are you curious about his recent record? 68-22 (75.56%) since his games vs iris in incruit osl. And more important, he's 13-2 in BoX series. Watch Bisu's glorious OSL run, this OSL belongs to him. To OP:I almost forgot , that was a nice read man.
It didn't seem like his play vs. Iris was inspired even though he won there. I personally thought it was where after he prepped for Storks games (even though he lost) is where he got the magic back. Since the Stork games he is 61-17 (78.21%).
It's all kinda arbitrary though so whatever the case he's been pretty consistently above 75% for 4 months now... let's see how long he can hold it up.
Nice analysis btw OP. NaDa and July are beasts to be able to do what they have (and probably will) do.
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I know that record was higher and his play in game 3 was slightly off , he simply remembered how to win vs Iris.
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Ok this is a great article this deserves more attention
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I think the op has forgoten one piece of information pertaining to his Savior analysis on this, otherwise flawless, write up.
Savior' resurgeance is obviously going to be a case of a "Fenix" resurgeance, instead of a "whats-his-face Candle" or the notorious "Nada Syndrome". And I affirm that we can be sure of that based on one simple overlooked data piece: IT'S 2009 BABE!!!!!
Savior will win MSL 3-0 against anyone!.
Edit: 2009pool to victory!
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joohyunee
Korea (South)1087 Posts
@ ^^^^^
..... omg the 2009 thing is REALLY getting out of hand... WAIT UNTIL MA JAE YOON PROVES HIMSELF BY GETTING INTO THE SEMIFINALS TONIGHT (if he does) CUZ OTHERWISE, HE AIN'T BACK YET, NOT EVEN TO HIMSELF, as I translated a couple of days ago when he won RO16.
Chillax, let Savior prove himself. Oh, yes, and I am an AVID savior fan. I was terribly excited when I saw Savior vs Bisu. But it's STILL an uphill climb for Ma Jae Yoon at this point. so STOP getting all excited for nothing - once he gets to semifinals, go nuts, cuz I might start taking interest again. but for now, let's keep the fanboyism under check, please?
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United States889 Posts
On February 26 2009 16:34 joohyunee wrote:
@ ^^^^^
..... omg the 2009 thing is REALLY getting out of hand... WAIT UNTIL MA JAE YOON PROVES HIMSELF BY GETTING INTO THE SEMIFINALS TONIGHT (if he does) CUZ OTHERWISE, HE AIN'T BACK YET, NOT EVEN TO HIMSELF, as I translated a couple of days ago when he won RO16.
Chillax, let Savior prove himself. Oh, yes, and I am an AVID savior fan. I was terribly excited when I saw Savior vs Bisu. But it's STILL an uphill climb for Ma Jae Yoon at this point. so STOP getting all excited for nothing - once he gets to semifinals, go nuts, cuz I might start taking interest again. but for now, let's keep the fanboyism under check, please?
See that's sorta why I posted it nearly a week ago...
I'm not saying it makes any sense, my prediction; in fact, that's basically the point. I don't think I mentioned 2009, only the actual facts as of the articles' composition.
It really wasn't fanboyism...it was an analysis. The prediction was more just for 'funsies,' if you will. It's what I want to happen, certainly not what I think will happen. My actual analysis said that it's really not a safe bet, in the end. But yes, we'll see in just a little bit, won't we? It's time to be excited.
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