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Cesar2000
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden185 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 01:31:18
January 17 2009 21:39 GMT
#1
So now that signups are over, hopefully more people are willing to explain their teams. Why are YOU going to win it all this season?

Here's the quick rundown for me:

The big three triple-play:

(8) (T)Flash
(3) (Z)Luxury
(0) KTF

KTF is a massive steal at zero points. They had a poor run the last round, but form is temporary, talent is permanent. (T)Flash is the best Terran in the world, (Z)Luxury is the second best zerg in the world. For just 3 points I cant see how anyone could not pick (Z)Luxury. (T)Flash is dirt cheap at 8 as well.

The Samsung double-play:

(7) (P)JangBi
(6) (P)Stork

I wasnt sure about (P)Stork at first, I really wanted to fit him into the team but couldnt justify the 6 points. Then I saw he's starting out against ACE and he became an insta-buy. He's been having a poor run of form lately, but like (Z)Luxury I'm confident its just temporary. I picked (P)JangBi because he is the best Protoss right now and good value at 7 points. With the 2 best players in possibly the best team, it can only end in success.

The Stars double-play:

(5) (P)free
(1) (P)GuemChi

(P)free is the best player on Stars, and chances are high he's going to be scoring a lot of points from breaking streaks, and of course having streaks of his own. (P)GuemChi is hopefully the player who's going to get me to the top of the rankings since only 30 players have him on their team. He's going first in both games this week and only costs 1 point? How can I say no.


Players I had on my team at some points:
(4) (Z)Calm
(2) (P)Horang2
(1) (Z)by.hero

Too many have picked (P)Horang2 and (Z)by.hero for them to be a good choice I think. Even if I pick them and they do great - they're on 2-300 other teams and I'm no closer to nr 1! (Z)Calm is the player I'd have liked to fit into my team the most, so hopefully he plays horribly and I wont regret it.

Biggest sucker pick:

(12) (T)Leta - Just because he had an insane run last round and got to play in like a million ace matches, doesnt mean he's worth your first-born.
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 21:49:03
January 17 2009 21:47 GMT
#2
Effort + Skyhigh + Savior + CJ Entus because I am a CJ fan!

Anytime + Luxury + Stork because I think they will get me a good number of points for what they're worth.

I had Calm last round and he was definitely not worth it, so I didn't even think about choosing him this round. And how can anyone even afford Leta on their team?
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 21:52:34
January 17 2009 21:50 GMT
#3
(Z)(Z)July (Captain)
(P)(P)JangBi
(T)(T)firebathero
(T)(T)UpMagiC
(T)(T)Iris
(P)(P)DaezanG

Team is Samsung.

I kinda wanted to have snipers team, or at least close to it.I swapped Stork with FBH at the last moment, mostly due to Stork's recent performances... looks like it was bad move, considering FBH's game against Luxury's today and Stork being 1st in the lineup versus ACE.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 22:09:18
January 17 2009 22:02 GMT
#4
(8) (T)(T)Flash (Captain)
(7) (P)(P)JangBi
(2) (Z)(Z)sAviOr
(4) (Z)(Z)ZerO
(3) (P)(P)Pure
(1) (P)(P)Tazza

I chose FlaSh, simply because he's an excellent player. He's bound to get a lot of points in breaking streaks, as he's perfectly capable of shutting down BeSt/Bisu/Jaedong/Jangbi/Stork/EffOrt after they are streaking wins. He is captain because I feel he will be the most solid player.

JangBi has had very solid results, and went on a 2 game win streak v.s KTF just recently. Hopefully he can do even better in the future.

sAviOr has showed strong play in the MSL, and streaks of his former play in PL just recently. I have faith in sAviOr, if he ends up not doing well perhaps he can be traded.

ZerO is great, especially on a team like Stars where there isn't too many strong players. As one of the strongest players for Woongjin I imagine he'll be played quite a bit.

Pure is what happens when Mind loses. If it turns out he doesn't do so well, I may trade him.

Tazza is just one of the many promising 1 pointers. I chose him because I feel he is the best of all of them, and because I wanted an OGN player.

I chose SKT1, because I suspect they will do better than any other team in this format and will return lots of points.

I decided not to choose more than 1 player from the same team, because they're less likely to be played. Intrigue for instance has BeSt, Bisu, and Iloveoov. What is the likelihood that they will score points all in the same SKT1 game? BeSt will go streaking, Bisu will go streaking, or Iloveoov will get dominated by other players. One advantage he has here is 2 good players and 3 points for every SKT1 win, but I don't think the SKT1 fest is going to be at all beneficial in this format. The other advantage is that BeSt and Bisu are all very likely to come out during an SKT1 game and streak break. They're both power hitters, as well as Stork. The choice of Stork is one I'm slightly upset I didn't make however, since he's starting against ACE and will probably all-kill.
RIP Aaliyah
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
January 17 2009 22:09 GMT
#5
(T)Flash
(Z)Jaedong
(Z)EffOrt
(Z)Luxury
(P)Horang2
(P)DaezanG
KTF

My goal was to get as many players with All-Kill potential, then try to scrape by with the the left-overs. Flash, JD, and Effort are all their teams ace players and none of them have an exceedingly bad MU. Luxury was a huge steal at 3, and KTF as well at 0. Horang2 is the best P on his team, and pretty cheap.

And Daezang was just the best 0 pt player imo.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
klizzer
Profile Joined March 2008
517 Posts
January 17 2009 22:17 GMT
#6
SKT1 - Because I thought either Bisu or BeSt would do a lot of all-kills. Then I thought that SKT would give some other people like BoxeR a chance first, so B&B wouldn't actually do that many all-kills. Either way, SKT is prone to make some good performances with their beastly aces.

Flash - Well, all-kill potential.

JangBi - No weak matchup, and probably the strongest pillar of Khan. I first had Stork instead of him, but Stork, imho, isn't capable of all-kills with his random dropping of games.

Calm - I think he'll be the starter man for STX, so I hoped for him to have many many streaks. I had ZerO instead of him, but then thought that ZerO's stability was questionable.

NaDa - Well, why shouldn't I pick my fave player? I think WeMade will give him a lot of chances to play, as he's got some experience with the format and can, on any good day, beat everyone. And his recent games were promising.

sAviOr - yeah I jumped onto the bandwagon. He was by far the best 2 pointer though, and I couldn't convince myself to Horang2

Guemchi - I've seen him on the starter lineups and immediately picked him up. One point, not bad, and back in the time when he broke out, he looked pretty good.

What I regret now: Luxury. I had him on my team until the last day... I thought he wouldn't get to play that much because FlaSh would all-kill every time. But, it might be the other way around...
Other picks I had: Hwasin, UpMagiC, YellOw (both real and fake), and ZerO. The only one I might regret is Hwasin, cause he's a really good REDRED sniper. Plus, he's on a streak lately.

Anyway, given what I've seen from Lux today, I think my team is doomed already...
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
January 17 2009 22:18 GMT
#7
On January 18 2009 06:39 Cesar2000 wrote:
So now that signups are over, hopefully more people are willing to explain their teams. Why are YOU going to win it all this season?

Here's the quick rundown for me:

The big three triple-play:

(8) Flash
(3) Luxury
(0) KTF

KTF is a massive steal at zero points. They had a poor run the last round, but form is temporary, talent is permanent. Flash is the best Terran in the world, Luxury is the second best zerg in the world. For just 3 points I cant see how anyone could not pick Luxury. Flash is dirt cheap at 8 as well.

The Samsung double-play:

(7) Jangbi
(6) Stork

I wasnt sure about Stork at first, I really wanted to fit him into the team but couldnt justify the 6 points. Then I saw he's starting out against ACE and he became an insta-buy. He's been having a poor run of form lately, but like Luxury I'm confident its just temporary. I picked Jangbi because he is the best Protoss right now and good value at 7 points. With the 2 best players in possibly the best team, it can only end in success.

The Stars double-play:

(5) Free
(1) GuemChi

Free is the best player on stars, and chances are high he's going to be scoring a lot of points from breaking streaks, and of course having streaks of his own. GuemChi is hopefully the player who's going to get me to the top of the rankings since only 30 players have him on their team. He's going first in both games this week and only costs 1 point? How can I say no.


Players I had on my team at some points:
(4) Calm
(2) Horang2
(1) by.hero

Too many have picked Horang2 and by.hero for them to be a good choice I think. Even if I pick them and they do great - they're on 2-300 other teams and I'm no closer to nr 1! Calm is the player I'd have liked to fit into my team the most, so hopefully he plays horribly and I wont regret it.

Biggest sucker pick:

(12) Leta - Just because he had an insane run last round and got to play in like a million ace matches, doesnt mean he's worth your first-born.

I don't understand your logic with Horang2. You say he's on too many teams, yet you have flash/lux/ktf which are all on 200+ teams.

Just because a player is on a ton of teams isn't a reason to stay away from him. I understand that you might think it wouldn't matter because if they score you a ton of points, they'll be doing the same for 200+ others. But it's better to rise along with 200 others than to get passed up by those same people because you picked a worse player.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 17 2009 22:21 GMT
#8
(7) (Z)EffOrt (captain) - has showed exemplary ZvZ and ZvP of late, his ZvT isn't far behind and he's a       threat to all but the best TvZ players. Has shown the potential to put up some prodigious numbers       this round, and is fairly inexpensive.
(6) (T)Sea - one of the best all around players (solid vP, vT, and vZ).
(6) (T)fOrGG - Jaedong's schedule is about to get real busy very soon with Starleague play. I think       fOrGG will be ready to step up.
(3) (P)Anytime - ACE is using him as the player they send out when they want to stop a streak, and       he also has the chance of winning a few games in a row. He's not going to get that extra point for       team wins, but he's gonna get a great amount of opportunities compared to other players at his       price. Overall Anytime is just a solid value pick imo.
(2) (T)Iris - proficient in each matchup, plays a good amount, and has a decent chance of going on a       few streaks.
(2) (P)Horang2 - seems to have the most potential out of all the players worth 2 points. The X-Factor       on the team.

(4) CJ Entus - don't like having to root against CJ because of stuff like Liquibet/Fantasy, so that's why I       autovote in Liquibet and picked them in Fantasy WL.
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
January 17 2009 22:37 GMT
#9
I am going to win because I have the best player of each race.

(T)Flash - Hes the best Terran and fully able to perform allkills. Good in every MU.
(Z)Jaedong - Hes the best Zerg and fully able to perform allkills. Good in every MU.
(P)Bisu - Hes the best Protoss and fully able to perform allkills. Good in every MU.
(Z)HoeJJa . Always liked him, and expecting good things from him in the future. ACE MU - ZvT
(P)Shuttle - Always liked him, and expecting good things from him in the future. ACE MU - PvP
(P)han - Always liked him, and expecting good things from him in the future. ACE MU - PvZ
KTF - My favorite team, will be able to perform better with (T)Flash and/or (Z)Luxury performing allkills, and the price is suitable.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
Cesar2000
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden185 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 22:46:30
January 17 2009 22:44 GMT
#10
On January 18 2009 07:18 lgdDante wrote:
I don't understand your logic with Horang2. You say he's on too many teams, yet you have flash/lux/ktf which are all on 200+ teams.

Just because a player is on a ton of teams isn't a reason to stay away from him. I understand that you might think it wouldn't matter because if they score you a ton of points, they'll be doing the same for 200+ others. But it's better to rise along with 200 others than to get passed up by those same people because you picked a worse player.


Well what I meant is that Horang2 is a gamble. Most likely he wont get to play and wont score any points. When 200-300 people are taking that same gamble its not as appealing. Flash/lux I know will play every match, and do it well.

Its obviously not easy to find a player who is good value and also is not a popular choice among everyone else.
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 22:46:55
January 17 2009 22:45 GMT
#11
Luxury & KTF -> small price strong potential as said before.

Anytime -> hoping he'll play every ACE match and I'm sure he can squeeze a few wins (like today)

Bisu -> Strong in all 3 match-ups and all kill potential. He is also out of OSL and MSL which gives him time to prepare for Proleague

Hwasin -> strong sniper potential (vs Z or vs T)

Free -> Hoping he'll get sent out alot for the stars

Stork -> Was missing a point for Jangbi and I really like Stork anyways


Currently 6th of the competition, hope the future will be as good ^^
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 17 2009 22:51 GMT
#12
On January 18 2009 07:44 Cesar2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2009 07:18 lgdDante wrote:
I don't understand your logic with Horang2. You say he's on too many teams, yet you have flash/lux/ktf which are all on 200+ teams.

Just because a player is on a ton of teams isn't a reason to stay away from him. I understand that you might think it wouldn't matter because if they score you a ton of points, they'll be doing the same for 200+ others. But it's better to rise along with 200 others than to get passed up by those same people because you picked a worse player.


Well what I meant is that Horang2 is a gamble. Most likely he wont get to play and wont score any points. When 200-300 people are taking that same gamble its not as appealing. Flash/lux I know will play every match, and do it well.

Its obviously not easy to find a player who is good value and also is not a popular choice among everyone else.


I chose Pure for the same reason. I thought he would be the least picked of all the 3 pointers, but having seen his play in the 2008 Proleague, he has ridiculous potential. If he is played a bit more, he can do really well. We'll see.
RIP Aaliyah
Tonkerchen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
680 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 22:52:28
January 17 2009 22:51 GMT
#13
(P)Anytime - Always plays @ ACE team, so I hope he'll rape some chobos
(Z)Luxury - Just cus I love him and just got 11 points hahaha
(T)Flash - You know why
BeSt - I really really hope it was worth to change (P)Bisu with Best. Hope he's gonna rape this season.
(T)BoxeR - Autovote, and for 1 point pretty cheap, maybe he'll win some games with cheese or so.
(Z)sAviOr - It's 2009! And for 2 points fucking cheap too.

CJ Entus - Because I Love this team, just like (Z)sAviOr
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
January 17 2009 22:53 GMT
#14
(6) (P)Stork: figured hes more solid than jangbi
(2) (T)iloveoov: favourite progamer, played vs ACE and i knew he'd get some wins
(8) (T)Flash (Captain): solid good in all MUs
(2) (Z)sAviOr: will destroy everyone in 2009, cheap
(9) (P)Bisu: best protoss player in the world
(3) (Z)Luxury: cheap, solid player that would get some games

(0) KTF MagicNs: decent pick for 0 points...
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 23:04:18
January 17 2009 22:59 GMT
#15
Team name: Fortress Europe
(6) (Z)July (Captain)
I love him, he is performing excellent lately, he has balls of steel.
(1) (Z)by.hero
There are always two, the master and the apprentice. No more, no less...
(3) (T)NaDa
He is a very solid player for only 3 points.
(1) (T)BoxeR
He's cheap and I like his style, let's see if he can show us some great games.
(9) (P)BeSt
Because he's the best and can kill anyone out there in a very brutal way.
(5) (P)Kal
Because I like to be surprised.

(5) SK Telecom T1
Because it's the best team around.

I tried to balance my team by having 2 players in each race. I also got some older players (July, NaDa, Boxer) who have a lot of experience in various leagues, can handle the stress well and are definitely capable of performing all-kills and snipes.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
January 17 2009 23:00 GMT
#16
KTF - they're decent. and at 0 points!? a much smarter choice than picking another team - save points for players as well, which have more potential for points.

Anytime - i love anytime. he'll mostly be the player racking in wins for ACE. and i do still believe he's capable of an all kill, or at least going 2-0 or 3-0.

Bisu - i love bisu. he's capable of so much more; and although i'm saddened he's out of both leagues, it means he's going to concentrate on PL. either way, he's going to be back

Free - i love free. he's a staple in Stars. when he's on, he plays with such creativity and intelligence, it's kind of scary. expecting him to perform well.

Now for the other 3!
EffOrt- he's a really good player, with so much capabilities. i'm counting on him to become the zerg to be feared in the PL.

Firebathero - TvZ and TvT only please! not expecting any all kill. just 2-0 or 3-0 although i'd reckon the opposing coaches would immediately send out a P lol.

Reach - uhh i used up all my 30 points. and everyone else sucked.
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 17 2009 23:10 GMT
#17
Jaedong forgg young savior daezang foru lecaf oz

I only know jaedong and savior, the others were kinda random.
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imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
January 17 2009 23:10 GMT
#18
(10) (Z)Jaedong - cost less than Leta (I hate leta anyway) and he is very good, strong vs all 3 matchups
(6) (P)Stork - Samsung will almost always send him, again solid in all 3 MUs
(8) (T)Flash - same reason as above
(3) (Z)Luxury - KTF's zerg pretty much, he's pretty good
(1) (T)BoxeR (Captain) - just because he's Boxer, and because he's in SKT1 so he will get some points for team win
(2) (T)Iris - good CJ Terran

(0) KTF MagicNs - 0 points is a steal especially when you have Flash and Luxury. I have considered SKT1 and Samsung but I want more points for players
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
January 17 2009 23:10 GMT
#19

Bisu (Captain) : I chose Kim Taek because he is the only player I can trust right now and he is the living bonjwa ;]

Flash : Flash is his team's only notable player + Show Spoiler +
Well , there is also Luxury but nm
He can achieve all-kill , he has that potential.Well , wait and see for me ...

Stork : He is slumping a little bit but he is still good in shape. He is still Khan's # 1.

sAviOr: I didn't choose him because of his words -_- I think he is still out there somewhere , I wait for him to return and play like godlike not against Bisu of course

Pusan: MBC's toss ace. Although he is not that good like old days but he can still win games and for the price he can be bought.

Iris : Well , I kinda feel stupid for this choice but nevermind if he gets the chance I hope he will play good. I wish I took oov instead of him -_-

KTF: There is nothing to say about it. There is a proverb in my culture that goes " Cheap vinegar is sweetier than honey " Well that's it I think SK would be a good choice but to satisfy Bisu - Flash - Stork trio I had to choose KTF. I'm not regretful though.
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 23:34:57
January 17 2009 23:34 GMT
#20
(Z)Jaedong
He is the best player to (P)Ever play this game.

(P)JangBi
Fakesteve thinks he's best in the world right now. Fakesteve is ALWAYS right.

(P)free
Woongjin's gonna abuse him. One of the 6 Dragons Acorns

(T)BoxeR
Fuck yeah.

(T)RuBy
He's a sniper. He'll win games.

(Z)by.hero
Lol dunno.

Team: Samsung KHAN
(P)Stork/(P)JangBi/FBH combo. ggnore.

Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 23:54:46
January 17 2009 23:51 GMT
#21
Jaedong - He is the best zerg and the best player.
Flash - he is the best terran and he was a combo with 0 point KTF, team that is able to 4-0, 4-1 opponents easily.
Kal - Strong and cheap protoss, the best one cost/effectiveness imo.
Hwasin - On the rise, raped Mind, looks sharp, shows flawless gameplay episodically, cheap.
Savior - Very cheap, looks like he is on the rise, he is awesome
Boxer - Very cheap, got into a good pro-team, has elite sparring partners, he is awesome.

KTF - 0 cost, has Flash and Luxury both capable of the OCV.
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
January 17 2009 23:52 GMT
#22
On January 18 2009 07:44 Cesar2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2009 07:18 lgdDante wrote:
I don't understand your logic with Horang2. You say he's on too many teams, yet you have flash/lux/ktf which are all on 200+ teams.

Just because a player is on a ton of teams isn't a reason to stay away from him. I understand that you might think it wouldn't matter because if they score you a ton of points, they'll be doing the same for 200+ others. But it's better to rise along with 200 others than to get passed up by those same people because you picked a worse player.


Well what I meant is that Horang2 is a gamble. Most likely he wont get to play and wont score any points. When 200-300 people are taking that same gamble its not as appealing. Flash/lux I know will play every match, and do it well.

Its obviously not easy to find a player who is good value and also is not a popular choice among everyone else.

I disagree on a couple of things here. First of all I don't think Horang2 is as big a gamble as you think. He is by far the best protoss on his team, and there's a rule stating that 1 player of each race must be played in the first 4 matches, I think he's going to get a fair amount of games in. His biggest competition is Chalrenge, who hasn't played in forever, and Tazza, who is just as unproven, if not less, than Horang.

I was considering the same line of thinking as you, maybe taking some risks on players people wouldn't pick, but in the end i figured that it doesn't matter how many people have the same players as you, as long as they produce you will rise toward the top. The most common picks were the most common for a reason, I think it's actually a good thing if all your players were among the most picked.
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darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
January 17 2009 23:53 GMT
#23
On January 18 2009 08:34 3 Lions wrote:


(P)JangBi
Fakesteve thinks he's best in the world right now. Fakesteve is ALWAYS right.





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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 00:01:38
January 18 2009 00:00 GMT
#24
(0)KTF
--Can't go wrong with a 0 Point KTF.

(8)(T)Flash (KTF)(Captain)
--Heavy hitter who would likely play every match.

(3)(Z)Luxury (KTF)
--Cheap as hell, and a heavy hitter who will often play.

(2)(P)Tempest (KTF)
--Cheap player, will be sent out against lesser opponents often, as well as against ACE.

(10)(Z)Jaedong (Lecaf)
--Heavy hitter who would likely play every match.

(5)(P)free (Stars)
--Heavy hitter who would likely play every match.

(2)(Z)sAviOr (CJ)
--Couldn't refuse a 2 Point (Z)sAviOr, he'll likely be played a decent amount, always have the chance of him turning into a destroyer after his MSL performance.
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
January 18 2009 00:15 GMT
#25
(12) (T)Leta (Captain) - I regret not having played earlier rounds, because I could have trucked people by taking my favorite player

(8) (T)Flash - Continuing the theme of players who can randomly OCV any team

(2) (T)Lomo - There weren't many contenders at 2 points, so I took someone on Lecaf because they will win many matches

(5) (P)free - the only good player on stars and I wouldn't be surprised if he random went on rampages

(2) (Z)maGma - not much to be had at 2 points so I took a risk on magma. If he ever gets over his nerves maybe he will OCV some teams like he apparently did to samsung twice

(1) (T)BoxeR - same as lomo, except he's on t1

(0) KTF MagicNs - taking leta and flash kind of reduces your options, but ktf is a steal at 0 points
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Linx_101
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada166 Posts
January 18 2009 00:27 GMT
#26
So now that signups are over, hopefully more people are willing to explain their teams. Why are YOU going to win it all this season?

Here's the quick rundown for me:

The big three triple-play:

(8) Flash
(3) Luxury
(0) KTF

KTF is a massive steal at zero points. They had a poor run the last round, but form is temporary, talent is permanent. Flash is the best Terran in the world, Luxury is the second best zerg in the world. For just 3 points I cant see how anyone could not pick Luxury. Flash is dirt cheap at 8 as well.

The Samsung double-play:

(7) Jangbi
(6) Stork

I wasnt sure about Stork at first, I really wanted to fit him into the team but couldnt justify the 6 points. Then I saw he's starting out against ACE and he became an insta-buy. He's been having a poor run of form lately, but like Luxury I'm confident its just temporary. I picked Jangbi because he is the best Protoss right now and good value at 7 points. With the 2 best players in possibly the best team, it can only end in success.

The Stars double-play:

(5) Free
(1) GuemChi

Free is the best player on stars, and chances are high he's going to be scoring a lot of points from breaking streaks, and of course having streaks of his own. GuemChi is hopefully the player who's going to get me to the top of the rankings since only 30 players have him on their team. He's going first in both games this week and only costs 1 point? How can I say no.


Players I had on my team at some points:
(4) Calm
(2) Horang2
(1) by.hero

Too many have picked Horang2 and by.hero for them to be a good choice I think. Even if I pick them and they do great - they're on 2-300 other teams and I'm no closer to nr 1! Calm is the player I'd have liked to fit into my team the most, so hopefully he plays horribly and I wont regret it.

Biggest sucker pick:

(12) Leta - Just because he had an insane run last round and got to play in like a million ace matches, doesnt mean he's worth your first-born.



My thought process was basically the same as this, except that I picked by.Hero instead of Guemchi because I believe he will be riding high off beating Bisu for a while.

My Team:

(8) (T)Flash (Captain)
(7) (P)JangBi
(6) (P)Stork
(5) (P)free
(3) (Z)Luxury
(1) (Z)by.hero

(0) KTF MagicNs
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
January 18 2009 00:31 GMT
#27
JangBi - he's 7 points, a little pricey but worth it since he's pretty consistent imo
Flash - same as above
Jaedong (Captain) - he's the best zerg in the world right now and I hope he allkills every team he plays (except cj)
by.hero - i didn't want to pick him at first because he's so overhyped now, and stx already has calm and july, but i decided to sacrifice some more solid 3/4/5 pointers for the expensive guys above. probably a bad idea.
Horang2 - same as above, but he's a toss on ogn so he'll get some playing time hopefully
sAviOr - had to get a cheaper pick to match up with the three heavy hitters on my team, and after msl i had to get him
KTF - definitely a good pick for 0 points.

for the longest time i was going to use something like Flash, Horang2, Luxury, Jangbi, Free, Kal, KTF
after last night i'm pissed i didnt keep it -_-
Entusman #12
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
January 18 2009 00:39 GMT
#28
(P)free and (Z)ZerO make pretty pictures

(Z)Jaedong - obv
(T)Flash - obv

(P)free - <3
(Z)ZerO (Captain) - <3

(Z)sAviOr - 2009.
(P)GuemChi - I know..I know..3 Stars players. I won't win. But if a Stars player is going to do well I'd better have him on my team, dammit. Otherwise I'll feel like a traitor.

KTF MagicNs - All of my points so far! Good buy.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10705 Posts
January 18 2009 00:43 GMT
#29
July - My favorite player and he's done good... Couldn't root against him anyway so :D.

Flash and Jaedong - Can waste entire teams.

savior - 2 points... There are not many 2 pointers that could do better and i had no CJ player.

Horang2 - needed a Protoss and had not many points left, gamble...

Iloveoov - Wanted an SKT1 player and he was on the lineup.

KTF - It's free and capable of winning.



I settled for Jaedong/Flash/July and then just filled the other slots with players that seem to be capable of doing good and/or to get more good teams.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 18 2009 00:55 GMT
#30
Team name: cheap and expensive
(9) (P)Bisu (Captain)
Strong in all matchups (even tho hes been shaky PvZ latly), good all kill potential, will probably be used in most matches + strong team that should fare well in the all kill format

(8) (T)Flash
Needed a terran and Flash is pretty much given to play in every match unless KTF all kills before he gets to play + good all kill potential

(9) (P)BeSt
Pretty much the same as with Bisu, except 1 rather shaky matchup. One of these will always be fielded in SKT I expect

(2) (P)Horang2
Since I had pretty much spent all my points on the 3 first players I had to find cheap people for the 3 next slots, I think he will play a decent amount for OGN and hopefully be able to pick up alot of points.

(0) (P)DaezanG
My last pick, needed someone for 0 points, figured hes got a fair chance to play some games for ACE.

(2) (Z)OversKy
Needed a zerg and he will probably play in a decent amount of ACE games since he is their best zerg and can actually pick up some wins. + I figured that not many people would choose him.

(0) KTF MagicNs
At this Price there really was no other choice.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
January 18 2009 01:02 GMT
#31
Team name: 소녀시대
(2) (P)Horang2 (Captain) <- i wuv him
(7) (P)JangBi <- I was deciding who my staple player would be, after seeing the Power Ranking, I was really surprised to see him at #1, but he was a couple of points cheaper than SKT Protosses, so why not.
(6) (T)fOrGG <- Possible chance of All-Killing weaker teams.
(6) (T)Sea <- As above
(6) (Z)July <- It's July, mother fuckers.
(3) (Z)Luxury <- Well, I hope he gets out of his mini-slump.

(0) KTF MagicNs <- You have to be mentally retarded to not pick KTF.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 18 2009 01:18 GMT
#32
Or simply... uninformed.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
January 18 2009 01:21 GMT
#33
(7) (Z)(Z)EffOrt (Captain)

Solid and consistent, though with the inclusion of (Z)sAviOr, might not be CJ's pick. Still, (Z)EffOrt is bound to get tons of play time, and is strong enough in his match ups (especially ZvZ and ZvP, with ZvT being a weaker element) to get some streaks. He may also be used as a sniper, since his ZvZ is at such a strong level that there are few Zergs who can stand a ReaLchance against it. Also I'm TL.net's number one (Z)EffOrt fan, so he has to be my captain

(8) (T)(T)Flash

The (T)Flash/KTF combo comes to mind here. At the moment, (T)Flash is pretty much the indisputable Terran force on the scene, and will be used for massive points by KTF in the line up (except for Last night....in which he didn't appear. Weird). (T)Flash is bound to get massive game-time, anyway.

(9) (P)(P)Bisu

You just can't go wrong with (P)Bisu. He's probably going to be SKT's premier Zerg sniper, and he's just so consistent, along with (T)Flash and (Z)EffOrt, my other big points players, that he's probably going to be in for a streak. Like (T)Flash and (Z)EffOrt, he's also probably going to get tons of playtime, and with MSL and OSL out of the way, he can focus exclusively on the WL!

(2) (Z)(Z)sAviOr

(Z)sAviOr's just so damn cheap, it's hard to pass up such a good player at this point. Unfortunately, he's another CJ Zerg, so he and (Z)EffOrt will be splitting the airtime. Even so, I felt that he was one of the better 2 point picks.

(3) (Z)(Z)Luxury

(Z)Luxury for three points? What a steal. Like (Z)EffOrt and (Z)sAviOr, he's very, very consistent, and is one of the few Zergs doing well at the moment. For only three points, you get a solid Zerg player who is bound to last a few games. His ZvZ is also pretty consistently strong.

(1) (Z)(Z)by.hero

For one (P)Point, (Z)by.hero was the obvious choice. He's shown surprising skill for someone of his renown, and he could be used as a surprise sniper pick.

(0) KTF MagicNs

KTF for zeropoints? Obvious choice, since the other low point teams don't show the depth KTF does. Also, with my inclusion of (Z)EffOrt, (Z)sAviOr, and (P)Bisu, I had to be pretty thrifty with my remaining points.
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MisterKatosS
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
France352 Posts
January 18 2009 01:29 GMT
#34
My strategy was to get :
- Good player carying there team alone : this way no other player can end the match before they get to play.
- Zerg players : cause map pool is going their way.
- to gamble a lot : using player that I believe are getting back in shape, or getting good and thus underpriced, (the only way to get to the first place)
- To take players good in all the matchup, this way coach cannot use their weak match up to get rid of them


- Flash : The KTF guy, strong and lacking good team mates (too bad lux is getting back...) good all kill candidate (damn you lux !)
- Free : The wongjing guy,probably underpriced cause of his rough round 2 , buit he started to score at the end (GGplay you better stay out of shape !)
- Skyhigh : I believe in this guy, he play insane, and is getting more and more grip on his nerves, bonjwah material for 5 points, cool !
- TheZerg : he had an horrible start at SKT cause he played only ZvZ, I believe he is good in the other match ups (and I hope he pick it up...), I am sure he as potential, he will be SKT ace Zerg.
- Savior : Savior is good since blizzcon, he was ahead of FBH before the horrible "noob mistake", he played insanely against free in GSL even loosing, + Show Spoiler +
and now bisu ...
he lacked confidance but now I belive he is ready to get back.
- by.hero : well i dont now, he seem too lack a bit of training but have good inteligent game sens and I love that. I kind of went with my heart with this one, he is behind calm and July in STX, and I don't know if I can espect much of him, big gamble...

-SKT nothing too say here they are good and i went with my heart.

This line may have some weakness, two CJ player and they wont carry the team on their own (FU effort and Iris), TheZerg ZvZ and his teammates, by.hero, anyway you can't have everything for 30 points
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Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
January 18 2009 01:37 GMT
#35
HiyA: He's Lecaf's consistent Terran, even more consistent than fOrGG and he's racked up a few nice wins in his last few games.

sKyHigh: He's CJ's Terran, he's solid, and one of the few players to take down Leta in PL this season.

Kal: Kal can be one of the best players in progaming or just average, either way he'll get me some points and he's a really nice player to watch. Hoping for him to be the best in progaming this round .

Hwasin: Hwasin is always amazing even when he's slumping. He totally slaughtered his OSL group vs Mind and HoeJJa, and he beat really in his most recent PL match.

Saint: I love Saint, Saint rapes Protoss players, Saint is MBC's Zerg ace. Saint will be sent to snipe people like BeSt, Bisu, Stork, JangBi, etc.

Horang2: Solid up and comer, OGN's only realiable Protoss player (Tazza sucks sorry).

STX SouL: 2 STX players on my team, STX has July also. I think STX will do well like they did last season (3rd place behind Lecaf and Khan).

;D
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
January 18 2009 01:46 GMT
#36
My first time with fantasy PL AND all-kill format. Not sure what I did.

8 - Flash best T, will play many games

10 - Jaedong best Z, will play many games

9 - Bisu best P, will play many games

With these 3, that's 27 points. The other three were to be ones who weren't gonna play, but maybe might show up from time to time, also they might steal some points because their team wins.

1 - Stats KTF point steal, most likely protoss to be used (especially in this protoss era)

1 - Tazza OGN point steal, a likely protoss to be used, plus OGN is sorta on fire.

1 - Boxer SKT point steal, and likely to play

0 - KTF it's free. it was this or SKT. Lecaf is too expensive, and I hate khan
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
January 18 2009 01:49 GMT
#37
I think seasoned vets will do better in this format, where they don't always know which maps/matchups they'll play.

I picked players from 6 different teams so they don't compete with each other for lineup spots.

(10) (Z)Jaedong: All-kill potential, will show up in every game Lecaf plays. Favored against nearly every player in any matchup on any map

(8) (T)Flash: 1 point less than (P)Bisu, same potential, and his only lineup competition from his own team is (Z)Luxury. A bargain at 8 points.

(6) (P)Stork: All-kill potential, very experienced player, plays against ACE this week.

(3) (P)Pusan: Relatively cheap given how well he played in R1, has a near free-win against CJ's (T)Memory this week.

(2) (Z)sAviOr: Came down to (T)iloveoov, (P)Horang2, (T)Iris, and (Z)sAviOr. Oov was tempting since he was up against ACE, but I thought he'd get cut down by (P)Anytime in the second game. Horang2's probably a good pick, but there's no telling how he'll do in this format. And Iris never wins when I cheer for him. So fanboyism wins out, go sAviOr!

(1) (P)GuemChi: I had him on my team before lineups were out, so I sure as hell wasn't removing him when he was in two matches. Supposedly he has a ton of potential, though I've never seen him play. Worth it for 1 point. :p

(0) KTF: It's great that I don't have to care whether they win or lose, they'll still come out ahead this round.
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MaiBoA38
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
January 18 2009 02:15 GMT
#38
(4)(T)UpMagiC,
(9)(P)Bisu,
(4)(Z)Saint,
(4)(Z)Shine[kaL],
(2)(P)Tempest, and
(2)(T)Lomo.
(5) SK Telecom T1

I picked a lot of 3-4 point players from a variety of teams. I'm looking for a lot of upset wins and streak break points. They're all fairly solid players who, for me, will be interesting to look for this season. I doubt I'll end near the top 50% when this is all said and done.
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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 02:32:58
January 18 2009 02:29 GMT
#39
(12) (T)(T)Leta (Captain)
(9) (P)(P)Bisu
(1) (Z)(Z)by.hero
(4) (Z)(Z)hyvaa
(2) (Z)(Z)sAviOr
(2) (P)(P)Horang2

(0) KTF MagicNs

I thought (T)Leta would be an awesome (P)HerO to have as a captain, and because he was 12 points he is super powerful and will just rape everyone.

Then I just went for (P)Bisu since he was so hyped and he is pretty awesome.

(Z)by.hero cause he was taught by (Z)JulyZerg even if it was just a two (Z)Line conversation.

(Z)hyvaa cause he's I don't know he seemed like a decent pick.

(Z)sAviOr cause it's fucking (Z)Cool.

(P)Horang2 cause his nick is (T)Really hilarious and he is 100% winrate (I kno' rite he will (T)Kill everyone)
Kay Tee Eppu cause well I hate (T)Flash and everyone on Kay Tee Eppu except (Z)FireFist... but I HAD TO FREE UP SOME POINTS FOR TEH (Z)sAviOr RITE. And what the fuck I can't (T)Really pick ACE can I? that would be hilariously stupid.

Conclusion: Most of my picks are pretty random and shitty, I just went by feeling and general awesomeness not (T)Really caring about what place I end up at.
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
January 18 2009 03:09 GMT
#40
(7) (Z)EffOrt Capable to all kill
(7) (P)JangBi Very nice all around protoss
(4) (Z)ZerO He might get good all kills if he has some good luck
(1) (Z)by.hero Experimenting
(3) (Z)Thezerg (Captain) Who knows maybe SKT1 might play him and he might be beast to kill at this format
(5) (T)Really Pick something from eSTRO team

(3) OnGameNet SPARKYZ Should bring a lots of points.
G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
January 18 2009 03:16 GMT
#41
My Team:

Eff0rt: CJ's best zerg atm, will get played a lot and capable of all kill.
Flash: Relatively consistent, beast in proleague, will get played many times in WL by KTF
Thezerg: Only zerg on SKT who has shown some good results before, I think he will show some decent results and snag some wins.
Casy: I like Casy, even if he's not that great now and his vP sucks.
Boxer: Cuz he's Boxer. Boxer as team captain is kickass.
SKT1: A smarter choice would have been KTF, but I like SKT, and I chose to put a team that I would enjoy rooting for.

Overall I didn't really put that much strategic thought into this, I chose 2 good players who I think have proven themselves and the rest were just ones that were cheap/had potential/I liked.
The Emperor - The Genius - The Cheater - The Maestro
ssystem
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom337 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 03:37:30
January 18 2009 03:37 GMT
#42
Team name: Team Win
(10) (Z)(Z)Jaedong
(8) (T)(T)Flash
(4) (T)(T)Hwasin (Captain)
(1) (T)(T)RuBy
(2) (Z)(Z)sAviOr
(1) (P)(P)Tazza

(4) STX SouL

I felt that because of the all-kill format it would be wiser to spread out my players because potentially some of the big guns won't even get to play because one of their teammates already cleaned house.
STX Soul as the team because I think they're going to own this round with FOUR Ace capable players.
For my cheap points I went with Ruby (sniper) Savior (destroyer) and Tazza (not to sure on this one but he's bound to atleast be on the roster and leech some points).
Hwasin as the captain because if any of my big pointers start slumping I want to be able to trade them away. Also being on STX means he'll probably always be on the roster by virtue of his name but not get to play until he can start winning again so he doesn't lose me points.

Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
January 18 2009 03:41 GMT
#43
Flash- KTF will likely send Flash out a good amount of times and Flash is definently a top-tier player. He'll get the appearance points and the wins.
JangBi (Captain)- JangBi has been doing good lately and is a good bet to be consistent
July-July is relatively well-rounded and has been doing well in Proleague lately.
sKyHigh- He's an up and coming Terran and has been doing relatively well, esp. with his victory over BeSt
Luxury- I believe he was cheap for three points and its likely that he too will probably appear as often as Flash does.
BoxeR- He's the Emperor. That and he is in SKT, where he will probably get the one team point that he gets for an SKT win.

KTF MagicNs- KTF is a bargain for a mere 0 points.

I felt that it was good on paper. However, I wasn't really fond of having three KTF players on the roster because I felt I was too reliant on KTF's performance. If KTF suffers, then half my team goes down with them.
Cesar2000
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden185 Posts
January 18 2009 03:42 GMT
#44
You only have 2 KTF players
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 18 2009 03:49 GMT
#45
I started from this standpoint: I wanted Leta-> he is OGN's best player, an excellent Terran sniper, and one of the largest suspects for an all-kill this round. Also, it was motivated out of fanboyism a bit, as well.

As for July, Protoss sniper, but I have some confidence in him after his win over FBH... it's a bit of a gamble, but I think it might pay off.

Those two cost quite a few points. So, rather than picking players who I expect to do well, I wanted to diversify and be able to tap into "team win" points. Basically, taking 0-2 point players from the teams I expect to do well.

If I was really trying to win, I would've gone with more strength throughout the roster, and probably picked Bisu, but I was structuring my team around Leta in the first place. Even if he does well, I won't really be able to compete in this, but it doesn't matter.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
January 18 2009 05:37 GMT
#46
I'm waiting for Intrigue to post his reasoning in this thread, other than hacking. ><

I missed out, stupid family vacations, but KTF should have been an auto-pick at 0.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 18 2009 06:54 GMT
#47
On January 18 2009 14:37 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
I'm waiting for Intrigue to post his reasoning in this thread, other than hacking. ><

I missed out, stupid family vacations, but KTF should have been an auto-pick at 0.

Other than being prophet, I dont think he has much to explain about his choices.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
bugus
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania133 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 08:05:17
January 18 2009 08:03 GMT
#48
My team is this:

(T)Flash
(T)fOrGG
(P)Kal
(P)Stork
(P)free
(Z)YellOw (Captain)

Team: KTF MagicNs


I just wanted to get as man big guns as I could from different top teams. Ain't going to well yet
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
January 18 2009 10:26 GMT
#49
(P)Bisu
Best player in the world at the moment (IMO) as well as being on the best team. I was originally going to go with the Flash/lux/KTF combo, but then I decided to try to be as contrary to everyone else as possible, while still having a good team. Bisu was my pick instead of Flash, which works out for me because I hate Flash and Love Bisu.

(Z)Luxury
Second best zerg in the world; best zerg on the second best team in the league (for this format). Only 3 points. I don't think I have to justify this pick. I knew everyone would have him but he was simply a must-pick.

(T)fantasy
The best terran on the best team, and only 6 points. Hopefully Oov and BoxeR playing were just flukes and fantasy will be SKT1's terran ACE from now on.

(P)free
Best player on Stars and I wouldn't call him a severe underdog against anyone right now. Good bargain, in my opinion.

(Z)sAviOr
I originally had (P)Horang2, but after sAviOr's MSL showing I had to swap him for the Maestro. Other than going off the week 1 lineups, most 2 point and under picks were based solely on your best hunch as to who would have a break out season. That looked like Horang2 to me, but after that MSL night, a sAviOr resurgence looks possible. Besides, it's Ma Jae motherfucking Yoon.

(P)DaezanG
0 pointer who I thought had the best chance of getting play time and wins.
Xiberia
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden634 Posts
January 18 2009 10:55 GMT
#50
(2) (Z)(Z)sAviOr
(10) (Z)(Z)Jaedong
(1) (P)(P)Rock
(2) (T)(T)Iris
(6) (Z)(Z)July (Captain)
(5) (T)(T)sKyHigh

(4) CJ Entus
Total points: 30 (0 Point(s) to spare)

I just picked my favourite players and my favourite team. Oh and Rock to get me lots of points.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 11:10:57
January 18 2009 11:09 GMT
#51
(5) KHAN
I was having KTF for long, but I expect KHAN to be the winner of this format with 3 very steady players, even above SKT.
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(9) (P)Bisu
He's on fire, I couldnt bear the thought of not having him on the team, so I traded Flash, and an extra point. I expect him to finish in top 3. + Show Spoiler +
especially now that he's out of both big individual leagues.
(7) (P)JangBi (captain)
JangBi has been very steady for a very long time. His time will come once, and I'll play 7 points gladly for the chance that it starts now.
(5) (P)Kal
My favourite player. I didn't plan on having him first, but with the aforementioned trade I had to cut off a point Stork or FBH - the perfect opportunity to have him.
(2) (Z)maGma
I needed a zerg, and maGma is said to be as good as Jaedong himself in practice games, but too anxious to maintain his performance. Hopefully he gets rid of the latter
Also, JD was very expensive, and I thought Luxury was in a slump, silly me!:D
(1) (T)BoxeR
He's BoxeR, now with added points for teamwins
(1) (P)Tazza
despite his 1-3 record, I see great potential in this kid, especially vP. I expect him to deliver surprises, and also teamwin points from the flight of Leta
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