Blizzcon Tourney Participants Announced!

On September 26 2008 12:17 Straylight wrote:
Whoa lots of Koreans and hardly any foreigners this time around. Weird.

On September 26 2008 12:40 xenero wrote:
Why is Xellos and fOrGG the only one's with a mention of a starleague? Weird creds. How did they decide these players anywho?

On September 26 2008 13:10 anch wrote:
Part of Blizzcon is to have fun interact with progamers, I hope Xellos is not douche and antisocial like last year. Just my concern, thats a waste of invite this year. I rather see Rock, or Chalrenge taking his spot.

list of Terran cooler than Xellos.
Upmagic, Sea, Tossgirl.

On September 26 2008 17:32 ryung70 wrote:


#2 firebathero or julyzerg would have been awesome, too. imagine going to a karaoke bar with july ^^

On September 26 2008 12:43 Machine[USA] wrote:
i really hope greg wins !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On September 26 2008 18:26 likeaboss wrote:
chill what was the previous lineup?

On September 26 2008 17:54 G.s)NarutO wrote:
IdrA will take down YellOw, but I doubt Strelok stands a chance against sAviOr!

On September 26 2008 21:58 .risingdragoon wrote:
Savior, Yellow, Nada, Xellos, Forgg, Jangbi

Too many cripples, guess they got the time now.

On September 26 2008 13:10 anch wrote:
List is imba with different skill pools. Final is probably ForGG and Jangbi, with Jangbi from winners bracket. They are in their shape at least from previous season.

Part of Blizzcon is to have fun interact with progamers, I hope Xellos is not douche and antisocial like last year. Just my concern, thats a waste of invite this year. I rather see Rock, or Chalrenge taking his spot.

list of Terran cooler than Xellos.
Upmagic, Sea, Tossgirl.

On September 26 2008 20:57 motbob wrote:
god I love double elimination. Why can't TSL Ro8 be double elimination?

Now they just have to announce who'll be casting... hmmm...

On September 26 2008 12:19 JudgeMathis wrote:


Why is it weird? The foreigners never got far in the previous tournaments. I don't see how any non-koreans would make it to the finals. :-/

On September 26 2008 23:11 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Lame player choice, lame race distribution.
I guess ForGG or Jangbi wins.

On September 26 2008 23:21 Dutch wrote:
Savior is going to crush Strelok like a bug lol. Idra will get crushed 2nd round if he beats yellow. I see a Savior/Jangbi finish and I think Savior pulls it out. GO nada tho.

On September 26 2008 12:40 xenero wrote:
Why is Xellos and fOrGG the only one's with a mention of a starleague? Weird creds. How did they decide these players anywho?

On September 27 2008 00:24 pyrogenetix wrote:
lol i like how strelok has a European union flag instead of a Ukrainian flag but the koreans don't have some asian flag. people in US still think europe is like one big country yea?

On September 27 2008 00:59 HanN00b wrote:
http://www.mymym.com/en/news/14637.html

Strelok cant attend.

Why dont they invite Mondi instead. Mondi vs Savior the revenge would be awesome (Mondi won against Savior ZvZ last WCG)

On September 27 2008 01:41 Chill wrote:
Blizzard, you have no idea what you're doing, so listen to me.

Send Nony. He's cool and good.

If he can't go, send JianFei, he is arguably the best foreigner in the world right now.

If he can't go, send Mondragon, because he's cool and good.

Thanks in advance.

On September 26 2008 23:25 Chill wrote:

You should realize Blizzcon isn't about the competition.

On September 27 2008 01:43 Chill wrote:
Also, while you're at it cut ForGG and send 염보성, our hero, Yum BoSung, Sea[Shield].

On September 27 2008 00:59 HanN00b wrote:
http://www.mymym.com/en/news/14637.html

Strelok cant attend.

Why dont they invite Mondi instead. Mondi vs Savior the revenge would be awesome (Mondi won against Savior ZvZ last WCG)

On September 26 2008 19:26 Last Romantic wrote:


bisu instead of xellos

stork instead of jangbi.

On September 27 2008 01:42 Kennigit wrote:


This

On September 27 2008 02:39 HanN00b wrote:



Thats what I call north american teamliquid view. I know both communitys european and north amercian and I tell its a long time ago since a north american has been the best foreigner.

And no neither Idra, nor Nony or JF are the best foreigners atm. Mondi isnt too cause he is in bad shape atm (otherwise he would be the best of course). I think its Dreiven who is the best atm. But its hard to say I admit cause many MYM, a few ToT,Idra, JF and Nony are almost on the same level.

On September 27 2008 02:39 HanN00b wrote:



Thats what I call north american teamliquid view. I know both communitys european and north amercian and I tell its a long time ago since a north american has been the best foreigner.

And no neither Idra, nor Nony or JF are the best foreigners atm. Mondi isnt too cause he is in bad shape atm (otherwise he would be the best of course). I think its Dreiven who is the best atm. But its hard to say I admit cause many MYM, a few ToT,Idra, JF and Nony are almost on the same level.

On September 27 2008 02:47 Kennigit wrote:



Sorry i guess "this" doesn't make it very clear. Blizzard traditionally makes sketchy choices at best with regards to player selection...i mean...YELLOW? COME ON! I understand some players have leagues and playoffs to worry about and cant make it but sending washed up old school players who are applying for Airforce team in literally a week is ridiculous.

Last year Skew got sent. I like Skew but there were a fair number of better players that could have been selected and i dont think it was the right choice. Its not about north america or europe. Blizzard is probably trying to give "everyone a chance" but there should be more critical or selective thinking with regards to player picks.

"Blizzard, you have no idea what you're doing, so listen to me."
Like G5 said, look at Nada's achievement list....

On September 27 2008 03:10 Seku wrote:
Why couldn't they announce this before the tickets went on sale ;_;

Agreed on the bad choices for foreign players

On September 27 2008 02:47 Kennigit wrote:
YELLOW? COME ON! I understand some players have leagues and playoffs to worry about and cant make it but sending washed up old school players who are applying for Airforce team in literally a week is ridiculous.

On September 27 2008 02:39 HanN00b wrote:



Thats what I call north american teamliquid view. I know both communitys european and north amercian and I tell its a long time ago since a north american has been the best foreigner.

And no neither Idra, nor Nony or JF are the best foreigners atm. Mondi isnt too cause he is in bad shape atm (otherwise he would be the best of course). I think its Dreiven who is the best atm. But its hard to say I admit cause many MYM, a few ToT,Idra, JF and Nony are almost on the same level.

On September 27 2008 01:03 Ideas wrote:



Europe isn't that big of a country.

On September 27 2008 03:08 Chill wrote:
There, everyone says Nony/JF except MYMN00b, so send them 1/2 bang bang DO IT BIZZARD

On September 27 2008 07:12 Kennigit wrote:
Blizzcon usually only has 2 foreigners

On September 27 2008 07:46 Ilvy wrote:


2005 had 4
Testie
Mondragon
Assem
Legionnaire

:D

On September 27 2008 10:28 Kennigit wrote:
the first one i saw was WWI in korea it had tasteless with blue hair and had
nalra yellow reach and..... someone
eri fisheye mondi? and testie?

On September 27 2008 10:37 Boblion wrote:
In 2005 Assem and Legionnaire were pros so they weren't "real" foreigners .

On September 27 2008 10:21 blabber wrote:

was there even a wwi in 2005? 2007 WWI had Draco, Testie, PJ, and Sen

SAVIOR
Ma Jae Yoon
Zerg
Winner of the 3rd Shinhan Bank OSL, Pringles MSL S2, Pringles MSL S1, and UZOO MSL

YELLOW
Hong Jin Ho
Zerg
Winner of the GhemTV FindAll Challenger Starleague

NADA
Lee Yun Yeol
Terran
Winner of the Shinhan Bank OnGameNet Masters, 2nd Shinhan Bank OSL, IOPS OSL, KT-KTF Premiere League Championship, 1st GhemTV StarLeague, Panasonic OSL, Bankin Robbin KPGA Tour 4th League, Pepsi Twist KPGA Tour 3rd League, and Reebok KPGA Tour 2nd League

XELLOS
Seo Ji Hoon
Terran
Winner of the 2005 WCG Progamer Seed Selection, 3rd OnGameNet Challenge League, Olympus OSL, and OnGameNet Challenge League

NEVER
Park Ji Soo
Terran
Winner of the Arena MSL

...

and JANGBI, IDRA, and whoever the final player would be.

On September 27 2008 10:45 Tibs wrote:
Also if you're not going to the event but still want to experience live coverage and viewings, keep an eye out if you have Directv to purchase it.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/blizzcon-2008-to-be-televised-in-us

On September 27 2008 10:41 Last Romantic wrote:
did Idra end up taking one of CJ's progamer licenses or is he still going to do courage?

On September 27 2008 11:40 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Wish there was more foreigners. Blizzcon was like a mini-WCG for me where top foreigners play against pros. Too bad no Mondragon or NonY

Next Blizzcon, NonY may be on the roster since he is the favorite to go to Korea.

On September 27 2008 02:50 {88}iNcontroL wrote:


I like you hannoob so I will leave flaming out of this but you are wrong. You would have made a better case listing Draco.. the guy that actually won the WCG that Dreiven attended and took 3rd in? The reason you didn't is because Draco is a confusing person that nobody can really tell in regard to how serious he is. Draco is the best European atm.. perhaps foreigner. Mondragon is a close second for european.

Top foreigner is hard to tell. Credential wise JF has the best claim considering all players went balls out in TSL and he bested them all. NonY is in amazing shape but I'd still give the edge to JF as a more well rounded top player.

To say that a NA player hasn't been considered the best in a long time is... short sighted imo.. very short sighted. If winning TSL doesn't make you a good bid for top non korean I don't know what does.

On September 27 2008 11:44 Kennigit wrote:

there is going to be a free online stream

On September 27 2008 17:59 BlackStar wrote:
Canadians don't need visa?

On September 28 2008 08:14 Tibs wrote:


Any news on a link Kennigit?

On September 28 2008 08:42 Chill wrote:


Er... what is this Visa nonsense? In some countries you need a Visa to visit another country? Everywhere I've ever been I just hopped on a plane with my passport and flew there. Forgive my ignorance.

On September 28 2008 08:57 Raithed wrote:
i heard strelok cannot make it due to visa problems.

On September 28 2008 08:42 Chill wrote:
Er... what is this Visa nonsense? In some countries you need a Visa to visit another country? Everywhere I've ever been I just hopped on a plane with my passport and flew there. Forgive my ignorance.

On September 27 2008 18:33 HanN00b wrote:

Well you showed me once again that your name is not Skew, Idra or Nony but that you are one of the mannered americans. I apologize because my post was a bit too agressive. Maybe JF is the best foreigner atm (his reaver micro is simply amazing). But the last 3 years before were dominated by two european players. First Draco and then Mondragon. They were better as all the north american players at that time even better than Testie. I admit that it changed now because Idra has his korean training so he might be able to beat Draco and Mondi now, Nony became super strong especially in PvZ and JF won TSL. (Infact winning one tourney does not show to me who is the best, you have to judge the overall performance in all tournaments)

So what I generally critizize is the fact that teamliquid user tend to overrate the americans because they dont know the european scene too well. In addition guys like Idra or Nony seem very arrogant to me overrating themself (although they are good).

I think I expressed myself more clearly now without being so aggressive.
Thx for the friendly not flaming answer, although Nony and Idra might be more skilled atm, you are definitely my favourite north american player beside g5 and JF cause you guys behave like normal humans and not like flaming kids.

On September 27 2008 10:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote:


I guess that means IdrA isn't a real foreigner this year?

On September 28 2008 10:24 [X]Ken_D wrote:


Overrate? It is more like underrate. Europe is not as strong as it use to be. It's not that they got worse, it's that other countries gotten better. North American powerhouses are emerging like JF, Idra, and NonY. Mondragon said that amateur Korean terran gives him a lot of trouble. Idra is a pro terran. Mondragon will have great difficulty taking a game from Idra's mechanics. Not to mention that NonY may soon be going to Korea.

On September 28 2008 18:37 HanN00b wrote:



As I said the americans get better but the last years were dominated by europe players. JF and Nony are great players. I cant judge about Idra. Before he went to Korea he wasnt that good. The top europeans would have easy won against him. After a few weeks in Korea, the top europeans WHite-Ra, draco (and believe me Mondragon too) were still stronger than Idra. I guess that has changed now from what I have heard, but I am not sure since I did not see a game.

North American players (Nony, JF, Idra) became really strong the last year and they are slightly the strongest now (Meaning that a bunch of european players is still capable to dominate them if they have a good day and americans a bad). But beside these three top players that still might lose usa would still lose a game USA vs Europe (without Russia) because the amount of good players that comes after the top players is much higher in Europe.

On September 28 2008 21:01 likeaboss wrote:
top five foriegners are prolly in order
Draco
Idra
Mondragon
Nony
JF

Its a really big shame that two out of the top five wont be playing at wcg since usa has 1 spot and
canada has 0

On September 28 2008 23:31 lolaloc wrote:
Current top 10 foreigners (except Chinese) according to GosuGamers:
1 Mondragon
2 IefNaij
3 Strelok
4 Draco
5 Dimaga
6 White-Ra
7 DinOt
8 BRAT_OK
9 ClouD
10 Arew

On September 28 2008 23:31 lolaloc wrote:
Current top 10 foreigners (except Chinese) according to GosuGamers:
1 Mondragon
2 IefNaij
3 Strelok
4 Draco
5 Dimaga
6 White-Ra
7 DinOt
8 BRAT_OK
9 ClouD
10 Arew

On October 07 2008 14:20 Zzoram wrote:


How is NonY not on that list, he just won Spirit and easily won WCG US.

On September 26 2008 17:30 ChaoSbringer wrote:
lmao

I like how they list Nada's achievements as 3rd place at 05 Blizzcon

I'd have liked to see Much there too, but too many CJ imba with 3/8 already

On October 07 2008 16:11 iG.ClouD wrote:
lolol no! I'm trying to be serious there you know

On October 07 2008 16:34 AttackZerg wrote:



Dude you don't get paid to play and you have well over 1,000 fans internationally. A trademark isn't a bad thing!

btw, good luck man. I hope you do great!

On October 07 2008 17:33 GTR-2-Go wrote:


I beg everyone to eliminate Troy.

On October 08 2008 09:27 blabber wrote:

$10 says they're going to use Athena I and Colosseum I

On October 07 2008 17:33 GTR-2-Go wrote:


I beg everyone to eliminate Troy.

On October 09 2008 03:48 nemY wrote:


SOMEONE MUST BUY CLOUD ONE

On October 10 2008 22:50 HanN00b wrote:
22 cet as far as I know but no (free) live stream sucks. I really hope I will find an possibility to watch at least the vods.

On October 10 2008 23:49 Purind wrote:
hehe, Cloud, noone is disappointed. I think everyone here thinks you're an amazing player. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm excited to see you go

On October 11 2008 03:12 Raithed wrote:
yellow rapes idra GO!

On October 11 2008 03:12 Raithed wrote:
yellow rapes idra GO!

On September 26 2008 23:46 Uligor wrote:


Have you been living in a cave? :x