EPT[Poll] Will Flash win all tournaments? - Page 3
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On June 11 2008 23:59 IdrA wrote: didnt say he wasnt good in standard play as he most obviously is. just said in standard games vs jaedong jaedong has outplayed him every time. also, jaedong beat him in the only bo5 series they played 3-1, only losing to mech on katrina. flash beat him with a sunken break and mech 2-1 (losing a straight up game) in osl and won vs him in the gsi 2-1 all 3 games being cheese from one side or another. Idra you obviously know and see more about the game than I do but I'm surprised to see you say this. After watching players like Mind and Hwasin systematically take down (demolish) Jaedong in recent games on the current map pool, I was of the opinion that Flash would be able to do it even more easily. I don't think there's anything that Mind or Hwasin do better than Flash right now (that's just my opinion of course). Are there things you've seen in Flash's (or Jaedong's/Mind's/Hwasin's) play that would lead you to think otherwise? | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On June 12 2008 02:39 darktreb wrote: Idra you obviously know and see more about the game than I do but I'm surprised to see you say this. After watching players like Mind and Hwasin systematically take down (demolish) Jaedong in recent games on the current map pool, I was of the opinion that Flash would be able to do it even more easily. I don't think there's anything that Mind or Hwasin do better than Flash right now (that's just my opinion of course). Are there things you've seen in Flash's (or Jaedong's/Mind's/Hwasin's) play that would lead you to think otherwise? Let me explain it to you actually Hwasin has a better TvZ then Flash and Mind's is a little bit weaker but almost the same , 2nd those were Bo1 PL game in Bo5 JD usually kills . The fact that Hwasin beat JD in one game doesn't mean that Flash can too maybe he can maybe he can't but that is Bo1. Now if i may have your attention in Bo5 Hwasin has more of a chance beating JD then Flash that fact is backed up with Flash's non standard play vs him in both OSL and MSL and GSI , which tells that he is not confidant faseing JD on some map and if he doesn't have a plan he will lose - MSL , back then don't know how much he is improved now . Hwasin on the other hand was the best TvZ in 2007 and he is not scared of JD's late game skills . So if JD kills Hwasin in the next round he will most likely demolish Flash too , anyway after 1 week we will see if JD is the GOD OF DESTRUCTION and the legend killer . | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
On June 12 2008 02:37 GreEny K wrote: does anyone know where i can find a match of best beating flash?? | ||
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diggurd
Norway346 Posts
the game vs darkelf was on the verge of being bm  FE to wreitank on colosseum is a new gg flash build. he first took 12, then moved to 11. "fuck it ill go ~10 starports, lets get some gas".![[image loading]](http://b.imagehost.org/0758/vlcsnap-198778.png) | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
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AnyOne
Chile547 Posts
Best > Flash at OSL sAviOr > Flash at INTEL-CLASIC and then go slump and i hope he suicide | ||
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
 Flash will be beaten by....+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
On June 11 2008 22:56 IdrA wrote: he has yet to prove he can beat jaedong in a standard game. he beat him in 2 series but his wins were mmf sunken breaks, mech, and baekmagoji. jaedong won all of the biotankvessel vs muta ling lurk into defiler games, won them pretty easily for the most part. flash is better now than he was and jaedong seems a bit worse, but id still say jaedong is a favorite given current maps that favor standard play a bit more. Yo have quite a point, however Jaedong is slumping and Flash getting better and better... And yeah, the maps encourage more standard play, however it doesn't mean that Flash will be forced into standard play. To be honest I think Colosseum is encouraging Wraith TvZ a little, already seen 2 games like that (one of which was from Flash, in addition to his wraith-heavy tvt on that map vs. DarkElf in PL). Especially with the ling-proof wallability of the map. That's nearly impossible to do on Othello though... other maps Wuthering can be made with lingproof walls... but it's very open and hydras will have an easy chance vs. wraiths. Then again, as a rather shitty player I might just be talking out of my ass altogether. On June 12 2008 01:47 GunsofthePatriots wrote: ... Can you pull that off in Courage League? Or will you choke? i hate all the idra haters blegh why do people have to go out of their way to talk shit about him | ||
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Frits
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
I think he is fully capable if he plays the way he has been. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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B1nary
Canada1267 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32280 Posts
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
You are my new buddy ^_^ On June 12 2008 05:19 B1nary wrote: I just don't see him losing. Right now, he's looking even better than sAviOr in his prime since he doesn't have a weak matchup. I can't think of anyone except MAYBE Jaedong who can take him down. Dude How can you | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
its not possible he will win osl, lose in msl to jaedong, and (dreams...) lose to savior in intel classic | ||
Atrioc
United States1866 Posts
Plus: Heavily slumping 1/8th fraction-of-himself complete crap sAviOr still went 3-4 with him in Skins. | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
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