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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 11 2008 14:59 GMT
#21
On June 11 2008 23:23 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
after watching flash thrash every other competent player in the world do you honestly still think hes not good in standard play? I think flash is to bisu as jaedong is to savior, in other words - flash will always beat jaedong whenever they meet, but he'll eventually get crushed by a newcomer... The sc circle lol

didnt say he wasnt good in standard play as he most obviously is. just said in standard games vs jaedong jaedong has outplayed him every time.

also, jaedong beat him in the only bo5 series they played 3-1, only losing to mech on katrina. flash beat him with a sunken break and mech 2-1 (losing a straight up game) in osl and won vs him in the gsi 2-1 all 3 games being cheese from one side or another.
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kyjori
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
371 Posts
June 11 2008 15:16 GMT
#22
On June 11 2008 23:23 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
after watching flash thrash every other competent player in the world do you honestly still think hes not good in standard play? I think flash is to bisu as jaedong is to savior, in other words - flash will always beat jaedong whenever they meet, but he'll eventually get crushed by a newcomer... The sc circle lol


arent they 5-5 against each other? how are they similar to the raping savior gets from bisu?
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 15:27:16
June 11 2008 15:22 GMT
#23
MSL and OSL I'm betting due to who else is playing. Some are good but just not good enough to definitely take out Flash. As for Intel-Classic, I dunno who else is in it but I believe its safe to say Flash is taking it.

Edit: Jaedong is still a threat to Flash. However, I'm expecting Hwasin to take Jaedong out of the MSL. As for OSL, the only threat to Flash is possibly Best, who i believe Flash can overcome.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7865 Posts
June 11 2008 15:30 GMT
#24
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4892 Posts
June 11 2008 16:00 GMT
#25
On June 11 2008 23:23 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
after watching flash thrash every other competent player in the world do you honestly still think hes not good in standard play? I think flash is to bisu as jaedong is to savior, in other words - flash will always beat jaedong whenever they meet, but he'll eventually get crushed by a newcomer... The sc circle lol


Note that you,

1, mixed up the names, as you meant to say "Flash is to Jaedong is what Bisu is to sAvior"
2, made a completely dumb statement
3, they're 5-5 in those famous matches iirc, that's hardly "beating Jaedong whenever they meet"

Conclusion: well I'll try to be a bit more friendly, and just advise you to look around a lil' bit
Complete the cycle!
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 11 2008 16:05 GMT
#26
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.

because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool.
no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic.
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Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
June 11 2008 16:10 GMT
#27
I'd love to see a Jaedong vs Flash MSL final, and I'd also love for Jaedong to step up his ZvT for his games vs Hwasin so we can get some epic games.
Graphics
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 11 2008 16:15 GMT
#28
I think ITS FUCKING IMPORTANT for everyone to remember flash's age.

He's still got 4 years until he's 20 for god's sake. I think that he will have time to adapt his game to any up and comers. I think he will be high rank for a long time. Even if he doesn't win ANYTHING, it won't mean he sucks now, he'll still just be 16 ><!
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
June 11 2008 16:34 GMT
#29
Mind is my favorite terran right now, and I want him to rape Flash.

Mind ftw.

Flash is the best right now, but he is not better than that many other players.
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
June 11 2008 16:36 GMT
#30
On June 12 2008 01:05 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.

because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool.
no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic.


BTW how is it going in korea?

Getting your ass kicked?
Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
June 11 2008 16:36 GMT
#31
Flash will fall (plz plz plz)
#1 Shuttle Fan.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 11 2008 16:37 GMT
#32
On June 12 2008 01:36 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 01:05 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.

because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool.
no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic.


BTW how is it going in korea?

Getting your ass kicked?

nope i 20-0'd everyone on the team.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
June 11 2008 16:47 GMT
#33
On June 12 2008 01:37 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 01:36 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:05 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.

because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool.
no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic.


BTW how is it going in korea?

Getting your ass kicked?

nope i 20-0'd everyone on the team.


... Can you pull that off in Courage League?

Or will you choke?
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
June 11 2008 16:49 GMT
#34
On June 11 2008 23:42 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Unlikely that he'll win several at once. Even if Flash is currently in better shape than others, his skill level is not noticeably higher than Jaedong's or Best's and maybe 1-2 others' too (Kal? Mind?).


Dude, did you see Flash beat Mind or Kal? Not pretty sights
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 11 2008 16:49 GMT
#35
On June 12 2008 01:37 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 01:36 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:05 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.

because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool.
no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic.


BTW how is it going in korea?

Getting your ass kicked?

nope i 20-0'd everyone on the team.
It's true, I saw the replays
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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
June 11 2008 16:51 GMT
#36
On June 12 2008 01:47 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 01:37 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:36 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:05 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.

because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool.
no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic.


BTW how is it going in korea?

Getting your ass kicked?

nope i 20-0'd everyone on the team.


... Can you pull that off in Courage League?

Or will you choke?


Why are u being a dick?
w/e
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 16:53:13
June 11 2008 16:52 GMT
#37
On June 12 2008 01:49 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 01:37 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:36 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:05 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.

because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool.
no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic.


BTW how is it going in korea?

Getting your ass kicked?

nope i 20-0'd everyone on the team.
It's true, I saw the replays


Man pass them off to me please!

EDIT: IdrA has always been my favorite player even when he looked like a caveman!

I bow at his big monkey feet!

Reps? plz?
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
June 11 2008 16:55 GMT
#38
+ Show Spoiler +
Flash is X, he's looking right at joo

[image loading]
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 11 2008 16:58 GMT
#39
On June 12 2008 01:37 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 01:36 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:05 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.

because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool.
no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic.


BTW how is it going in korea?

Getting your ass kicked?

nope i 20-0'd everyone on the team.
Well there is a reason estro is last on the table...

+ Show Spoiler +
that was mean im sorry

Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
June 11 2008 16:58 GMT
#40
On June 12 2008 01:51 InfesTeD]i[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2008 01:47 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:37 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:36 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
On June 12 2008 01:05 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series?

Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents.

because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool.
no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic.


BTW how is it going in korea?

Getting your ass kicked?

nope i 20-0'd everyone on the team.


... Can you pull that off in Courage League?

Or will you choke?


Why are u being a dick?


I'm just joking around



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