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jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
July 24 2008 22:52 GMT
#221
ps- And for those who are saying that FBH and Savior actually get on well, then why did Savior ask Much to do that revenge ceremony on FBH (with the pylon heart). Sounds like you guys are reaching.


Don't you ever take the piss out of your mates?
콩까지마
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 24 2008 23:33 GMT
#222
Didn't FBH write in that "apology letter" to Savior that they never really talked? I don't see how they could possibly "get along well" if they barely know each other.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
July 25 2008 06:46 GMT
#223
i think what i wrote on the first page mislead some people.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 25 2008 06:56 GMT
#224
GOODFRIEND FUCK YOU GOODFRIEND YOUR ALWAYS LOSING WHEN I WATCH YOU
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
July 25 2008 07:45 GMT
#225
FBH's ceremonies are merely entertainment, not BM.. for me anyways.
Brood War loyalist
CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
July 25 2008 07:56 GMT
#226
On July 25 2008 08:33 B1nary wrote:
Didn't FBH write in that "apology letter" to Savior that they never really talked? I don't see how they could possibly "get along well" if they barely know each other.


i thought that was more of FBH mocking savior.
FBH = Most hated player
Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
July 25 2008 08:25 GMT
#227
I think people are confused as to what kind of profession Starcraft is. Some people see progamers as entertainers while some others see them as e-athletes. Thinking along that line, I think that when Firebathero tries to play both parts, he gets...well...a lot of hate for it. Especially since he ragged on THE Savior.

Anyways, I hate...no one. Wtf? I could have sworn I hated someone. Must think about this now...
this is my quote.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
July 25 2008 08:43 GMT
#228
Much, because his pylon heart is so tainted =P
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-25 08:46:30
July 25 2008 08:46 GMT
#229
On (Z)July 25 2008 16:56 CommanderFluffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (Z)July 25 2008 08:33 B1nary wrote:
Didn't FBH write in that "apology letter" to (Z)sAviOr that they never really talked? I don't see how they could possibly "get along well" if they barely know each other.


i thought that was more of FBH mocking (Z)sAviOr.
FBH = Most hated player


Have you ever made a joke or teased someone you liked? Maybe an acquaintance or someone, but you didn't mean any harm? But you didn't realize it hurt their feelings?

I'm pretty sure (T)firebathero never does his cermonies with the intention of hurting feelings. His fans think it's funny, his team thinks it's funny, the commentators think it's funny, I think it's funny. He's not trying to hurt anyone, it's just making light of the situation. But maybe it did hurt (Z)sAviOr and he feels bad.

RIP Aaliyah
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
July 25 2008 08:50 GMT
#230
On July 25 2008 16:56 CommanderFluffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2008 08:33 B1nary wrote:
Didn't FBH write in that "apology letter" to Savior that they never really talked? I don't see how they could possibly "get along well" if they barely know each other.


i thought that was more of FBH mocking savior.
FBH = Most hated player


meh, get things straight... you dont hate FBH, you just like savior too much.
..
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
July 25 2008 14:18 GMT
#231
On July 25 2008 17:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (Z)July 25 2008 16:56 CommanderFluffy wrote:
On (Z)July 25 2008 08:33 B1nary wrote:
Didn't FBH write in that "apology letter" to (Z)sAviOr that they never really talked? I don't see how they could possibly "get along well" if they barely know each other.


i thought that was more of FBH mocking (Z)sAviOr.
FBH = Most hated player


Have you ever made a joke or teased someone you liked? Maybe an acquaintance or someone, but you didn't mean any harm? But you didn't realize it hurt their feelings?

I'm pretty sure (T)firebathero never does his cermonies with the intention of hurting feelings. His fans think it's funny, his team thinks it's funny, the commentators think it's funny, I think it's funny. He's not trying to hurt anyone, it's just making light of the situation. But maybe it did hurt (Z)sAviOr and he feels bad.




Exactly. Did you see him on B.Net Atack? When he started in on Stork? I'm paraphrasing here, but the question was addressing his cartoonish confidence by asking what he thought of Stork's performance on b.net attack, losing to the random player. FBH was like "I thought : 'What are you doing, Stork?? You call yourself a progamer?' That's what I thought."

And that's his teammate - obviously someone he actually doesn't feel that sort of contempt for. It's all just a mix of show and personality.
콩까지마
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-25 14:24:57
July 25 2008 14:24 GMT
#232
On July 25 2008 17:50 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2008 16:56 CommanderFluffy wrote:
On July 25 2008 08:33 B1nary wrote:
Didn't FBH write in that "apology letter" to Savior that they never really talked? I don't see how they could possibly "get along well" if they barely know each other.


i thought that was more of FBH mocking savior.
FBH = Most hated player


meh, get things straight... you dont hate FBH, you just like savior too much.


I see what you did there.
sAviOr...
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
July 25 2008 15:10 GMT
#233
--- Nuked ---
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 25 2008 17:33 GMT
#234
(T)firebathero is a douche..that shit isnt funny,i mean poor (Z)sAviOr was like..;-;..

Pylon heart by (P)Much was amazing much love to (P)Much
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
July 25 2008 17:55 GMT
#235
FBH is just silly

go.go is hate deserving material.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
July 25 2008 18:05 GMT
#236
JD
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 25 2008 18:52 GMT
#237
On July 26 2008 03:05 disciple wrote:
JD


What? How could anyone not like Jaedong? I'm crying big fanboy tears right now. ㅠㅠ

tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 25 2008 19:14 GMT
#238
On July 25 2008 07:52 jgad wrote:
Show nested quote +
ps- And for those who are saying that FBH and Savior actually get on well, then why did Savior ask Much to do that revenge ceremony on FBH (with the pylon heart). Sounds like you guys are reaching.


Don't you ever take the piss out of your mates?


Of course, but how do you know they're mates? This is just circular reasoning now. You're just assuming that they're friends with each other without introducing any new points.

There's a simple answer to this: that there is indeed a rivalry between this players due to some extent to FBH's cocky ceremonies.

There's also a convoluted answer: that they are really good friends and this is some sort of faux-rivalry conspiracy concocted by FBH in order to help his 'best buddy' out of his slump. (Never mind that in beating Savior in the MSL semi-final FBH was at least in part responsible for this slump and that so far this rivalry does not seem to have helped Savior out of his slump).

I personally think that the simple answer sounds more convincing.


DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
July 25 2008 19:26 GMT
#239
On July 26 2008 04:14 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2008 07:52 jgad wrote:
ps- And for those who are saying that FBH and Savior actually get on well, then why did Savior ask Much to do that revenge ceremony on FBH (with the pylon heart). Sounds like you guys are reaching.


Don't you ever take the piss out of your mates?


Of course, but how do you know they're mates? This is just circular reasoning now. You're just assuming that they're friends with each other without introducing any new points.

There's a simple answer to this: that there is indeed a rivalry between this players due to some extent to FBH's cocky ceremonies.

There's also a convoluted answer: that they are really good friends and this is some sort of faux-rivalry conspiracy concocted by FBH in order to help his 'best buddy' out of his slump. (Never mind that in beating Savior in the MSL semi-final FBH was at least in part responsible for this slump and that so far this rivalry does not seem to have helped Savior out of his slump).

I personally think that the simple answer sounds more convincing.




The other answer is it's a joke that FBH means no harm by, and everyone takes it too seriously. Why can't we just laugh because it looks funny?
RIP Aaliyah
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