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Connor56205
Profile Joined November 2025
41 Posts
3 hours ago
#441
On September 28 2026 01:53 Rainalcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2026 01:43 Miragee wrote:
Seeing people this excited about a freaking AI boggles my mind.


Better than zvz


and or tvt
Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
151 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-27 17:20:00
3 hours ago
#442
On September 28 2026 02:01 Connor56205 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2026 01:53 Rainalcar wrote:
On September 28 2026 01:43 Miragee wrote:
Seeing people this excited about a freaking AI boggles my mind.


Better than zvz


and or tvt


and whinging about race 'imbalance' in general
Mrs Crabbleman
Profile Joined April 2026
44 Posts
2 hours ago
#443
On September 28 2026 01:43 Miragee wrote:
Seeing people this excited about a freaking AI boggles my mind.


Lmao I agree. It's like people are so bored with other humans.

I've checked it out a bit and the Artosis vs Pluto VOD made it sink in how horrifying this is for a broader reason. I did laugh throughout the VOD with Artosis going "my build should still be good against this" -----> dies spectacularly 2 minutes later LMAO--but at the same time thought this is exactly how an AI would smash us IRL, right after people cheered it on and were excited about its ability.

Bit of a rip in pepperonis moment if ya ask me, Johnson.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3473 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-27 18:17:32
2 hours ago
#444
On September 27 2026 23:14 TT1 wrote:
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On September 27 2026 21:54 vndestiny wrote:
Late game army control non-withstanding, but Pluto PvZ early mid game is incredibly strong.

It (almost) never dies against hydra burst, and corsair zeal goon timing attack is incredibly hard to hold. Feel like those at least can be studied by human Protoss.


study what? BW is a game of attention and it has an unlimited amount of it.. its not the same process, different worlds

funny enough the closest we have to its overall playstyle is Snow/Mini, Flash is more of a bot than this AI tbh, this AI is like a super degen version of Mini and Snow with unlimited attention


I mean mainly how to hold Hydra burst basically, since in that 30s windows it’s all the Protoss (and Zerg) player are paying attention to. How it just build 2-3 cannons, 2-3 goons, some zeal, pull probes, and somehow be bullet proof against hydra in these mini engagements.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7055 Posts
2 hours ago
#445
Something interesting about holding hydra bust is that no having sim city seems to help ? or atleast is my impression since workers and units bug less.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines927 Posts
1 hour ago
#446
On September 28 2026 03:23 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Something interesting about holding hydra bust is that no having sim city seems to help ? or atleast is my impression since workers and units bug less.


forge/gate in main base also keeps them safe, you never lose your upgrade and you don’t lose 1 production facility for free
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44321 Posts
1 hour ago
#447
On September 28 2026 03:15 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2026 23:14 TT1 wrote:
On September 27 2026 21:54 vndestiny wrote:
Late game army control non-withstanding, but Pluto PvZ early mid game is incredibly strong.

It (almost) never dies against hydra burst, and corsair zeal goon timing attack is incredibly hard to hold. Feel like those at least can be studied by human Protoss.


study what? BW is a game of attention and it has an unlimited amount of it.. its not the same process, different worlds

funny enough the closest we have to its overall playstyle is Snow/Mini, Flash is more of a bot than this AI tbh, this AI is like a super degen version of Mini and Snow with unlimited attention


I mean mainly how to hold Hydra burst basically, since in that 30s windows it’s all the Protoss (and Zerg) player are paying attention to. How it just build 2-3 cannons, 2-3 goons, some zeal, pull probes, and somehow be bullet proof against hydra in these mini engagements.

“Just micro perfectly”
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23421 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-27 19:06:38
1 hour ago
#448
Sim city delays the bust but once they have range they can snipe a close cannon or else you put cannons far and he gets 2 buildings for free.. i guess in theory no sim city might be better vs bust if you cannon up in time so you can fight easier with zealots and probes?

But then how do you deal with speedlings as a human with no sim city

On September 28 2026 03:55 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2026 03:15 vndestiny wrote:
On September 27 2026 23:14 TT1 wrote:
On September 27 2026 21:54 vndestiny wrote:
Late game army control non-withstanding, but Pluto PvZ early mid game is incredibly strong.

It (almost) never dies against hydra burst, and corsair zeal goon timing attack is incredibly hard to hold. Feel like those at least can be studied by human Protoss.


study what? BW is a game of attention and it has an unlimited amount of it.. its not the same process, different worlds

funny enough the closest we have to its overall playstyle is Snow/Mini, Flash is more of a bot than this AI tbh, this AI is like a super degen version of Mini and Snow with unlimited attention


I mean mainly how to hold Hydra burst basically, since in that 30s windows it’s all the Protoss (and Zerg) player are paying attention to. How it just build 2-3 cannons, 2-3 goons, some zeal, pull probes, and somehow be bullet proof against hydra in these mini engagements.

“Just micro perfectly”



Yes a lot of this thread is people analyzing the strategy of something that works with inhuman mechanics... probably no the best idea to copy it outright, but because it's very different from the mainstream it is interesting
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines927 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-27 19:21:10
1 hour ago
#449
it seems to like constantly producing zealots, it always has a lot of zealots to block the ramp/cannons. it also pokes out with the zealots constantly, in and out of its cannons’ range leash, so it knows when it needs to pull probes

larva tried to speedling bust it quite a bit, and a lot of the time his attack gets shuts down so hard that it’s game over
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
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