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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines926 Posts
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines926 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/live/cqkomOI93V0?si=sdBe2Q4lRvqhcZIc | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines926 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7607 Posts
They are playing a new bo5 now. I wish I could understand korean, I'm pretty sure Effort is talking shit the entire time he plays it. -- New match effort stomps it gane 1 with a 2 hat speedling/muta all-in on 13-15 drones. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7607 Posts
On September 27 2026 19:02 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: i wonder how pluto will respond if you parasite a corsair in its fleet, will it kill it, send it off to a distant part of the map, or ignore it? maybe it wouldn't care if you knew where its corsair fleet is going all the time I'm pretty sure vs Soma it took the parasited corsairs and placed them in the middle of it's main base. | ||
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Scarlett`
Korea (South)2435 Posts
On September 27 2026 19:03 AttackZerg wrote: Effort lost the first match 2:3 They are playing a new bo5 now. I wish I could understand korean, I'm pretty sure Effort is talking shit the entire time he plays it. -- New match effort stomps it gane 1 with a 2 hat speedling/muta all-in on 13-15 drones. yes hes talking shit you know? anyone could beat me if they just gamble im not playing 2hat muta even tyson would win stuff like this | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines926 Posts
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vndestiny
Singapore3473 Posts
On September 27 2026 17:23 quaristice wrote: if you watch carefully you can see that in situations where 2 workers would be mining the same mineral pluto manually switches them so it probably is mining significantly more efficiently than a human edit: this is probably why it makes less workers too Seems circumstances, since afaik Pluto doesnt do mineral boost. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7607 Posts
On September 27 2026 19:09 Scarlett` wrote: yes hes talking shit stuff like this haha, thank you! | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines926 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7607 Posts
Effort up 2/0 | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3473 Posts
On September 27 2026 16:47 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: he just logged off, set is over final score: + Show Spoiler + soma 4 - 3 pluto Much better than yesterday. Human is quick to figure out way to abuse the bot, while the bot cannot learn on the fly. That is, until it’s inevitable that bots finally patch out all abuse vectors i.e. like in chess. | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1764 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23421 Posts
On September 27 2026 18:54 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: soma using ensnare in zvp is a sick development in the meta. maybe calm was on to something, just needed better execution Because calm made an entire build around a single TACTIC which is actually very cheap to do in a normal game You use tactics to compliment your strategy not the other way around It's like trying to make a build around plaguing vessels and killing them with muta, and then going 2 hatch defilers to prove it works Whether or not it's going to be in the meta in real pro games is to be seen, but I wouldn't be surprised honestly, against 2 stargate corsair for example you can justify the cost of getting ensnare, rather than losing extra 20 scourge or 5 overlords It also makes more sense with fast hive builds as the queens nest + drone is half the investment, but Soma is rushing ultra/ling On September 27 2026 19:12 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: wow soma is a genius, ensnaring and wiping the corsair fleet enables Z to go ultraling, which turns the storm survivability dynamic upside down because ultras have more life than protoss units... because if protoss maintains corsair fleet, they can just hard counter ultraling with DT/sair It seems Soma gave up on using midgame army because Pluto P was just too efficient at dismantling it without losing anything? But Pluto is mixing in reavers so will be interesting to see.. Also Pluto is TERRIBLE at upgrading meaning that zerglings are just naturally way stronger Adrenalings with equal or better upgrades against P in the mid game?? Pluto Z makes a lot of lurker/ling it seems which is not surprising when Pluto P is getting very late upgrades | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines926 Posts
reavers are good answer to ultraling, but the ultimate answer is dark archon to protect corsair fleet with feedback, keeping corsair/DT comp on the table. feedback is cheaper energy-wise, more ranged, and frame-wise probably the fastest casting spell in the game | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7607 Posts
But mid game they are taking very different routes. Soma never stops fighting the air war and is always trying to trade into an opening where mutas/scourge become viable. Effort in macro games is focused entirely on holding on the ground strongly and getting into defiler/lategame. Both upgrade lurker aspect much sooner vs it now, but Soma's "you won't own the skies" approach distinctly different. He seems to fight for vision of the map alot more. Effort seems to snipe way more observers. | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1764 Posts
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quaristice
171 Posts
On September 27 2026 19:10 vndestiny wrote: Seems circumstances, since afaik Pluto doesnt do mineral boost. it's not mineral boosting in the traditional way, just if you watch its workers almost never idle at a mineral patch like a human's do once there are more workers than patches | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines926 Posts
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quaristice
171 Posts
On September 27 2026 19:46 quaristice wrote: it's not mineral boosting in the traditional way, just if you watch its workers almost never idle at a mineral patch like a human's do once there are more workers than patches to clarify what i mean: sometimes you'll see a worker mine from one mineral, return, and then go to a different mineral patch. other times you'll see a worker arrive, or go part of the way, then pluto sees the mineral is occupied and the worker instantly swaps to go to an empty patch. also to a degree it is doing the automatic mineral boosting, not return cargo micro or target the minerals as far as i can see, but there was one game i saw where it sent its worker to the correct corner of the mineral to make it do the automatic boost, and not do the weird bad diagonal path you get by naively clicking it | ||
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