EPTASL 22 Proposed Map Pool - Page 4
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3711 Posts
On June 29 2026 23:24 TMNT wrote: Bisu was also one Soma's thrown-game away from getting 1-4'd by Soma - if we're going by that logic. There's also no logic in mentioning Bisu and Snow's wins against the likes of Larva and Effort - whose rank are about 5th and 6th in the Zerg hierarchy - and using that as some kind of proof. Likewise for any near-win of Protoss vs Zerg. If you want to compare, you have to do top 1 vs top 1, top 2 vs top 2, etc. The overall win rate, once sample size grows big enough, essentially does that for you. The point I was arguing against was "Only mini can win a bo7 against zerg. Zerg design is broken" How does that have anything to do with whether we are talking about nr1 or nr6 Zerg in the world? Does nr1 toss have to be 50/50 against nr1 zerg, nr2 50/50 against nr2 etc. for it to be "winnable" and not "broken"? Does the PvZ winrate in ASL in bo7 have to be close to 50/50 for zerg to not be op? How far do we go down? Top 8 of each race? Top 16? Top 100? | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1560 Posts
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TMNT
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Miragee
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines973 Posts
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prosatan
Romania9391 Posts
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prosatan
Romania9391 Posts
On July 01 2026 16:41 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: rush needs to consult brain/byul for fastest map tvp openings +1 Crimson)S(hadow ! they can even ask BurgerSasu! or infinshin ! Fastest experts ! | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
If the games suck they will scrap the idea.Good to see something fresh if you ask me. | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines973 Posts
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Kraekkling
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prosatan
Romania9391 Posts
On July 01 2026 22:56 Kraekkling wrote: where are the gamessss the boys are playing right now a league on the new maps ! | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines973 Posts
On July 01 2026 23:10 prosatan wrote: the boys are playing right now a league on the new maps ! oh snap, proleague on the new maps! | ||
Peeano
Netherlands5963 Posts
Also the main's scanner becoming unavailable unitl it's mined out is huge. Also the main base mines out about 3 minutes earlier? Does that make Hydra bust vs stronger or weaker vs Protoss? Does forcing Terran to tech for detection that is not a scanner at the main. That fact with quicker early game income might make cannon/zealot viable against Terran? I love the exploration of this idea, but based on the scanner becoming unavaible might already make it an unviable approach. Perhaps 9x120 stacked and 9x1380 makes more sense for this approach. Players get to enjoy the same quick early game and when they're close to be saturated the stacked minerals are being emptied out. This way they don't get to abuse 18 fields, and it takes the turbo off for the need to expo early to not run dry. Also, and maybe more importantly, the main scanner becomes available before it starts mattering. | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines973 Posts
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Kraekkling
756 Posts
On July 02 2026 01:08 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: if you open odyssey up in scmdraft, its actually 10 stacked minerals can't confirm it's 9 | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines973 Posts
wait, the version i downloaded, (2)OdysseyRE_1.90 has 10 in the stack... is there a newer version? edit: oh, newer version 1.91b only has 9 in the stack | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines973 Posts
but i have seen flash hold 458’s full power un-nerfed midbuild 3gate zlot+cannon rush, even going CC first… was probably one of the most disgusting things i’ve ever witnessed on fastest map | ||
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oxKnu
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Darkwhite
Norway355 Posts
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