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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3381 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-02 13:49:48
October 02 2025 13:48 GMT
#241
On October 02 2025 22:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
So in case that Bisu actually beat Soma and Snow beat barracks. How is that final looking like ? Has Bisu any chance to beat Snow at protoss vs protoss ? Since i almost never watch pvp i have no idea if Bisu can put a challenge vs Snow.

Snow is the better PvP player judging from the eye test, no question, but the margin in this match up is so thin (unless you're Best) and BO luck decides a lot of the games so he's only slightly favorite against Bisu.

In terms of stats, lifetime record sees Snow 35-29 Bisu (it's mirror, they don't play each other ever , unless they are forced to) and actually 3-4 in 2025, so not much to digest. Snow beat Bisu convincingly 3-0 in ASL17 though.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1140 Posts
October 02 2025 17:01 GMT
#242
yeah and it's still the case. SnOw is very likely to sweep the series or win 4-1. From what i've seen, Bisu is trying to cheese SnOw in most of their encounters.
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
166 Posts
October 08 2025 15:03 GMT
#243
Is there a particular reason why there are 3 weeks between the first round of 8 match and the first round of 4 match this season compared to the standard 2?
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1324 Posts
October 08 2025 15:23 GMT
#244
On October 09 2025 00:03 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
Is there a particular reason why there are 3 weeks between the first round of 8 match and the first round of 4 match this season compared to the standard 2?

Korean holiday week.
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RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
166 Posts
October 08 2025 16:41 GMT
#245
On October 09 2025 00:23 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2025 00:03 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
Is there a particular reason why there are 3 weeks between the first round of 8 match and the first round of 4 match this season compared to the standard 2?

Korean holiday week.

Makes sense.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States741 Posts
October 08 2025 17:44 GMT
#246
On October 09 2025 01:41 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2025 00:23 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On October 09 2025 00:03 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
Is there a particular reason why there are 3 weeks between the first round of 8 match and the first round of 4 match this season compared to the standard 2?

Korean holiday week.

Makes sense.


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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44308 Posts
October 09 2025 07:42 GMT
#247
I would expect Snow vs Soma as the actual finals assuming Barracks and Bisu dont pull something out of the basket to take them out.

It's potentially the most interesting matchup too. Both players are basically hailed as the strongest of the race (with now soulkey out of the tourney and not like going full tryhard anymore) and both are uncrowned actually. Like so much expectation for both players to get a championship and them meeting in the finals would be really sick
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warandpeaches
Profile Joined March 2019
16 Posts
October 09 2025 22:14 GMT
#248
I'll take Soma over Bisu, he looks unyielding at the moment, and we know he has the builds and mentality to carry Zerg on his own.

BarrackS over Snow as every Terran player and their vibe-coded AI agent is lining up to pump BarrackS, mechanical god, full of the best strats.

Protoss' weakness is in numbers. If it had been Best or Snow alone in the Ro4 from that race, I'd favor them for victory.
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RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
166 Posts
October 10 2025 02:59 GMT
#249
On October 10 2025 07:14 warandpeaches wrote:
BarrackS over Snow as every Terran player and their vibe-coded AI agent is lining up to pump BarrackS, mechanical god, full of the best strats.

I don't know if it works that way. Some of the players are friends with Snow. (e.g. Rush was on CJ Entus with him) Others are going to practice with Snow because they might need help practicing with a Protoss player in the future. Some might even decide to hide builds for daily proleagues because that's where they make a lot of their money.
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
166 Posts
October 14 2025 20:23 GMT
#250
Does the fact that soma has shown how he wants to play ZvP on the maps over the previous two series help SnOw or does the fact that he's been practicing that matchup so much overcome that?
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines681 Posts
October 15 2025 05:22 GMT
#251
how's snow's online matchups vs soma? whats his winrate
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4180 Posts
October 15 2025 14:40 GMT
#252
On October 15 2025 05:23 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
Does the fact that soma has shown how he wants to play ZvP on the maps over the previous two series help SnOw or does the fact that he's been practicing that matchup so much overcome that?

Neither. There are so many different stats + specific executions that can be tailored vs particular opponents that repeating a match up series means close to nothing imo. Regarding the practices, they play so much and have so much time that it evens out at the end
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