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JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
December 12 2007 10:39 GMT
#41
rofl @by.sun ^_^
<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-12 10:42:15
December 12 2007 10:41 GMT
#42
On December 12 2007 19:34 Jayson X wrote:

Nada should have pulled of a Jerry Maguire.
+ Show Spoiler +

By.Sun: "YEAH I'M COMING WITH YOU!"
LOL. I don't know if it's the 5AM sleep deprived final studying or what but I can't stop laughing at the thought of him playing her part.
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 12 2007 10:42 GMT
#43
On December 12 2007 18:22 SayTT wrote:
Ok to make this clear, the punishment must be FOR THE REST of december? He played PL both 12.09 and 12.12 so it's a bit weird, then he must have gotten the punishment today or something?

the roster takes effect between Dec. 13th to Jan 7th.
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Kyttn
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom30 Posts
December 12 2007 10:56 GMT
#44
didnt realise wemade were doing so well.. probably been asked a million times before, is there somewhere i can check up on the PL table?
Oo
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 12 2007 10:57 GMT
#45
On December 12 2007 19:56 Kyttn wrote:
didnt realise wemade were doing so well.. probably been asked a million times before, is there somewhere i can check up on the PL table?

its in the featured threads section
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Kyttn
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom30 Posts
December 12 2007 10:59 GMT
#46
cheers.. not 100% how i didnt spot it there :/
Oo
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
December 12 2007 10:59 GMT
#47
wow those koreans are real hardasses. the foreigners used to be so blazay and lazy when it came to practice, it's almost shocking to hear such news. i guess that's how they roll though. have to be strict when it comes to practice in order to keep up their insane levels of play.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 12 2007 11:00 GMT
#48
mod edit

+ Show Spoiler +
no?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 12 2007 11:06 GMT
#49
On December 12 2007 19:41 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2007 19:34 Jayson X wrote:

Nada should have pulled of a Jerry Maguire.
+ Show Spoiler +

By.Sun: "YEAH I'M COMING WITH YOU!"
LOL. I don't know if it's the 5AM sleep deprived final studying or what but I can't stop laughing at the thought of him playing her part.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Ok, I really need to stop procrastinating.
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ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
December 12 2007 11:45 GMT
#50
I think this is meant as an example punishment. If the coach even risks losing matches for about 1 month the team will think twice about breaking rules. They now know he's serious about it so they are aware of it.
Seeing it from that perspective I think 1 month is not that much of a punishment. I just wonder what would've happened if Nada was unrependant.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 12 2007 11:56 GMT
#51
I think this is sad. Skipping out on practise 15 minutes is unacceptable, all his fans will know what he has done. I think his fanbase will shrink now.

He has a responsebility to show everyone that practising no less than 12 hour / day is not allowed. Even if you are a good player you must practise every minute of your trainingtime.

I am so mad at NaDa right now, you were my hero!!!

According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-12 12:06:28
December 12 2007 12:02 GMT
#52
Progamer's life is just so fcking tough. :'(

-EditL Off topic, Anoth3rday: your signature "Oh the army bedspread which comes to feel long" ~ is that a translation from Babelfish about Boxer?
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
December 12 2007 12:05 GMT
#53
On December 12 2007 18:11 The Storyteller wrote:
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On December 12 2007 17:27 One Page Memory wrote:
Rules are Rules, but its plain stupid to exclude one of your best players when there is a big chance to claim 4th spot.


Show nested quote +

They're stupid... Make him do dishes for the next month. Don't take him off the roster. Punish him without punishing the ENTIRE team.


That would be a bad move. What message would it send out? Basically, if you play really well, rules do not apply to you because your team needs you. In other words, a player will be able to hold his team hostage.

Apart from the obvious problem of a good player slacking off and not performing to the fullest, it is also very bad for morale.

The coach's decision was the correct one. Whether you are Nada or Mind or Rock or anyone else, the rules that apply to everyone also apply to you. I do not think anyone would say that a murderer should be allowed to roam the streets because he happens to be a talented scientist, artist or general. The country may need him, but it's still called a travesty of justice.

Uh, whatever. I'd say that washing dishes for a whole month is much more difficult than not being on the roster for a month. And that would show the rest of the team that even their star veteran can't skimp on rules.

Public humiliation is what he got. The coach just denied his best player for a month just for that. Many people will break small rules in order to accomplish what is needed. Since you gave an example:

If you were in a war, and your best soldier broke a minor rule. He was put in jail while the rest of his battalion was sent out to fight. Does that teach morale? Or was a mistake made? More of his teammates will die because the best soldier was not with them.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 12 2007 12:10 GMT
#54
On December 12 2007 21:05 WhatisProtoss wrote:If you were in a war, and your best soldier broke a minor rule. He was put in jail while the rest of his battalion was sent out to fight. Does that teach morale? Or was a mistake made? More of his teammates will die because the best soldier was not with them.


I don't like this analogy, for the simple matter that Starcraft is not life.

To me it seems like the coach treats his players like kids. Which, given their age, might be the right way to go. The closest one gets to is in professional sports, how do coaches treat players who were late to practice, for example? In the NFL, they might fine the player a bit, or not start them for one game. In the NBA it's usually tossed under the rug. But in professional sports, the people are mostly adults...
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-12 12:30:23
December 12 2007 12:29 GMT
#55
On December 12 2007 21:10 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2007 21:05 WhatisProtoss wrote:If you were in a war, and your best soldier broke a minor rule. He was put in jail while the rest of his battalion was sent out to fight. Does that teach morale? Or was a mistake made? More of his teammates will die because the best soldier was not with them.


I don't like this analogy, for the simple matter that Starcraft is not life.

To me it seems like the coach treats his players like kids. Which, given their age, might be the right way to go. The closest one gets to is in professional sports, how do coaches treat players who were late to practice, for example?
If the player has a history of good behavior and was only marginally late for sensible reasons (aka not to go bet on dog fights or hire prostitutes for a booze cruise), I'd imagine they'd do absolutely nothing.

I think the war analogy works. What's Wemade's primary goal? To win the Proleague. What is more likely going to help them accomplish that goal - letting NaDa play or "setting an example" over a minor offense? My vote is for #1.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 12 2007 12:35 GMT
#56
On December 12 2007 21:10 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2007 21:05 WhatisProtoss wrote:If you were in a war, and your best soldier broke a minor rule. He was put in jail while the rest of his battalion was sent out to fight. Does that teach morale? Or was a mistake made? More of his teammates will die because the best soldier was not with them.


I don't like this analogy, for the simple matter that Starcraft is not life.

To me it seems like the coach treats his players like kids. Which, given their age, might be the right way to go. The closest one gets to is in professional sports, how do coaches treat players who were late to practice, for example? In the NFL, they might fine the player a bit, or not start them for one game. In the NBA it's usually tossed under the rug. But in professional sports, the people are mostly adults...


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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
December 12 2007 12:40 GMT
#57
I personally think the punishment itself is flawed (agreed with WhatisProtoss here, plenty of alternatives that involve not taking him off the PL roster), if those are the rules they should be applied to everyone.

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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-12 13:28:59
December 12 2007 13:27 GMT
#58
WHY IS KINGDOM OFF THE ROSTER

Last game I saw was him vs Reach on Baekmagoji and Kingdom raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaped

edit: Lots of "mod edit"s -_-
^-^
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-12 14:43:52
December 12 2007 14:30 GMT
#59
Of course I am speculating, but it sounds to me this is more likely a case of nada wanting to take a break/vacation(a fairly well deserved one) and the WeMade PR people making the best possible story to make them both look good. Perhaps Nada feels burned out right now and believes it was best for the team to use players that have more passion and drive to win than himself. He will step aside and play a coaching role for now. The team knows that this would look very bad to nada's fans so they covered it up. Nada does not want to look like a quitter that's for sure.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 12 2007 14:34 GMT
#60
i dont think its the truth, either..
hatred outlives the hateful
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