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intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
On December 12 2007 16:55 WhatisProtoss wrote: They're stupid... Make him do dishes for the next month. Don't take him off the roster. Punish him without punishing the ENTIRE team. agreed | ||
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lamarine
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Sigrun
United States1655 Posts
On December 12 2007 17:53 JensOfSweden wrote: Btw, what's a HyunJun? The next Bonjwa of course. | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20667 Posts
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The Storyteller
Singapore2486 Posts
On December 12 2007 17:27 One Page Memory wrote: Rules are Rules, but its plain stupid to exclude one of your best players when there is a big chance to claim 4th spot. They're stupid... Make him do dishes for the next month. Don't take him off the roster. Punish him without punishing the ENTIRE team. That would be a bad move. What message would it send out? Basically, if you play really well, rules do not apply to you because your team needs you. In other words, a player will be able to hold his team hostage. Apart from the obvious problem of a good player slacking off and not performing to the fullest, it is also very bad for morale. The coach's decision was the correct one. Whether you are Nada or Mind or Rock or anyone else, the rules that apply to everyone also apply to you. I do not think anyone would say that a murderer should be allowed to roam the streets because he happens to be a talented scientist, artist or general. The country may need him, but it's still called a travesty of justice. | ||
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SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On December 12 2007 18:11 The Storyteller wrote: That would be a bad move. What message would it send out? Basically, if you play really well, rules do not apply to you because your team needs you. In other words, a player will be able to hold his team hostage. Apart from the obvious problem of a good player slacking off and not performing to the fullest, it is also very bad for morale. The coach's decision was the correct one. Whether you are Nada or Mind or Rock or anyone else, the rules that apply to everyone also apply to you. I do not think anyone would say that a murderer should be allowed to roam the streets because he happens to be a talented scientist, artist or general. The country may need him, but it's still called a travesty of justice. Your example is terrible and has nothing to do with this case. NaDa is the leader of the team. He is starting to come back to his old form. Taking him out of the team will surely have its effect on the morale of the whole team. I agree that rules are rules, but the punishment has to be according to the crime. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On December 12 2007 18:11 The Storyteller wrote: No, whether it's Nada or Mind or Rock, getting suspended for a month is completely over the top for missing 15 minutes of practice to get to a publicity event for the benefit of SC and Wemade.That would be a bad move. What message would it send out? Basically, if you play really well, rules do not apply to you because your team needs you. In other words, a player will be able to hold his team hostage. Apart from the obvious problem of a good player slacking off and not performing to the fullest, it is also very bad for morale. The coach's decision was the correct one. Whether you are Nada or Mind or Rock or anyone else, the rules that apply to everyone also apply to you. I do not think anyone would say that a murderer should be allowed to roam the streets because he happens to be a talented scientist, artist or general. The country may need him, but it's still called a travesty of justice. It's even worse for morale when people receive punishment they deem unfitting. It's obviously not as much of an issue for uber guilt tripping Koreans as it would be for Americans, but it's dumb none the less. | ||
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The Storyteller
Singapore2486 Posts
On December 12 2007 18:25 mdb wrote: Your example is terrible and has nothing to do with this case. NaDa is the leader of the team. He is starting to come back to his old form. Taking him out of the team will surely have its effect on the morale of the whole team. I agree that rules are rules, but the punishment has to be according to the crime. You, and the poster below you, are making 2 different points, one of which is completely separate from mine. My point is that if the punishment for being late for everything is a month's suspension, then it should apply equally to everyone, no matter who they are. That is the best for the team. Yes, they may not make it to the playoffs. But in the long run, it will help team discipline and morale and make them play better. Your point (or part of your point, anyway) is that the punishment did not fit the crime. That is a separate issue that has nothing to do with how Nada is playing. To draw an analogy, you are arguing that life imprisonment is too severe a punishment for murder. I'm arguing that whether that law is fair or not, it is applied equally to anyone, whether he's the prime minister or a beggar. | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
On December 12 2007 17:53 JensOfSweden wrote: Btw, what's a HyunJun? He's a Zerg player who can't ZvT worth a fuck. His other ID is Siz)ZergCom. So, team rules are a big deal to Koreans? WELL, I'LL BE DAMNED. | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
 I was hoping to see nada's rebirth this month.. | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20667 Posts
On December 12 2007 18:47 pubbanana wrote: He's a Zerg player who can't ZvT worth a fuck. His other ID is Siz)ZergCom. So, team rules are a big deal to Koreans? WELL, I'LL BE DAMNED. So how the fuck does pubbanana know EVERYTHING whaat the hell is a pubbanana anwyays. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
Also I was wondering who HyunJun is, Siz)zerg.com lolol | ||
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Alizee-
United States845 Posts
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
NaDa - Before I left to Japan for a show match I left practice about 15 minutes early NaDa - It's nothing to worry about. I was irresponsible and was late for practice about 15 minutes. So did he left early or was he late? Maybe my english just sucks and i should not see a difference. I smiled. Dunno why, i expected something like "i had sex with my gf in my managers office". But whatever. Rules are rules that's true. But wether he left early or was late. 15 Minutes? I mean wtf. So after ~6 years as a professional playing for 10 hours a day minimum he get's punished because of 15 minutes. Nada should have pulled of a Jerry Maguire. + Show Spoiler + "Well, don't worry. Don't worry. I'm not gonna to do what you all think I'm gonna to do, which is just FLIP OUT! But let me just, let me just say, as I ease out of the team I helped build -- I'm sorry, but it's a FACT! -- that there is such a thing as manners, a way of treating people. [Noticing the fish tank nearby] These fish have manners. These fish have manners. In fact, they're coming with me. I'm starting a new team, and the fish will come with me. You can call me sentimental. The fish -- they're coming with me. [grabs a fire-tailed Peruvian beauty fish with a cup and dumps the fish inside a baggie] Okay. If anybody else wants to come with me, this moment will be the moment of something real, and FUN, and inspiring in this god-forsaken business, and we will do it together. Who's comin' with me? Who's coming with me? Who's coming with me besides "Flipper," here? By.Sun: "YEAH I'M COMING WITH YOU!" | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On December 12 2007 18:45 The Storyteller wrote: True, I suppose you're right. However, if the championship were on the line, would you still treat him the same?You, and the poster below you, are making 2 different points, one of which is completely separate from mine. My point is that if the punishment for being late for everything is a month's suspension, then it should apply equally to everyone, no matter who they are. That is the best for the team. Yes, they may not make it to the playoffs. But in the long run, it will help team discipline and morale and make them play better. Your point (or part of your point, anyway) is that the punishment did not fit the crime. That is a separate issue that has nothing to do with how Nada is playing. To draw an analogy, you are arguing that life imprisonment is too severe a punishment for murder. I'm arguing that whether that law is fair or not, it is applied equally to anyone, whether he's the prime minister or a beggar. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
LOL | ||
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