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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
January 08 2008 23:54 GMT
#241
just wondering.... since bisu lost will the story continue? him winning the OSL? cuz if he doesnt that means Bisu was never Bonjwa rite?
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
January 08 2008 23:55 GMT
#242
If Bisu loses this OSL and next MSL as well, then hes not bonjwa.
ScoutWBF
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany639 Posts
January 09 2008 00:42 GMT
#243
The Protoss fails, like always :D
joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
January 09 2008 00:42 GMT
#244
IMHO bisu never attained the "bonjwa" status.. he was a strong player, yes, but he was never dominating everyone - he was defeated plenty of times during his "reign", including a few games by savior/Mind/Stork (i might add Stork has been competing for that Bonjwa status as well - perhaps the two protoss forces ended up canceling each other out, neither one of them becoming an official "bonjwa")
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
January 09 2008 00:48 GMT
#245
On January 09 2008 09:42 joohyunee wrote:
IMHO bisu never attained the "bonjwa" status.. he was a strong player, yes, but he was never dominating everyone - he was defeated plenty of times during his "reign", including a few games by savior/Mind/Stork (i might add Stork has been competing for that Bonjwa status as well - perhaps the two protoss forces ended up canceling each other out, neither one of them becoming an official "bonjwa")

Shit if they can get together w/ stork's PvP PvT mechanics and Bisu's PvT and PvZ charms it'll be amazing.
Why do protss have to...
ah well it always has been this way.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 09 2008 01:05 GMT
#246
On January 09 2008 04:32 jimminy_kriket wrote:
aww fuck i just got spoilered. damn it.

+ Show Spoiler +
Could you put the "Bisu wins next msl prediction" with a slash through it in a spoiler for a while?


I think there is a spoiler tag in the title of the thread? I understand what you mean though, I hate when I'm looking at VODS in the Small Vod Thread and I click on a spoiler tag, assuming it pertains to a game I either already know the results to or don't care about, and then I find out the results to the recent sAviOr game that I wanted to watch Maybe in threads (and maybe titles) we should try harder to make the spoilers + Show Spoiler [what is being spoiled] +
like this
so that I know which spoilers are safe :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-09 03:47:46
January 09 2008 03:40 GMT
#247
On January 09 2008 04:30 BlackSphinx wrote:
I'm just wondering if Bonjwa is just simply the french "Bon joueur", or, good player. That's the kind of things Grrr could say.

And it sounds exactly like how an asian would say it.

Just an idea...

Whoa boy, let me school you.

bonjwa = 本座

Loose translation in English that works the best is probably "The Throne".
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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
January 14 2008 00:38 GMT
#248
Wow really nice write up. This actually explains the bonjwa a lot better to me.

Why in the fucking world do people throw that word around like its nothing...? calling everyone the next bonjwa when they dont even come close to nada,iloveoov,savior
w/e
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-15 19:31:34
January 15 2008 19:23 GMT
#249
i donno if bonjwa = 本座
but 本座 literally translates to "this seat" in chinese. in ancient times "this seat" is a term for someone in office (usually used by a high ranked monk or buddist) to refer to themselves. you would use it like the words "me" or "i" in a sentence.

the more powerful term is 朕 pronounced "zhen", which also means and can be used as "i" or "me" in a sentence. however, this term is used only by the emperor. anyone else using this term will be executed on charges of treason or insults against the throne.

a more correct term would be 陛下, pronouced "bi xia" in chinese which translates to "his majesty". the japanese term for it is spelt the same, pronouced "heika". the emperors of japan can be formally referred to using "tenno heika" meaning "his majesty the emperor"
...from the land of imba
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 15 2008 19:45 GMT
#250
Poor Bisu -_-
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 16 2008 01:45 GMT
#251
yes hes performing too poorly to be called a bonjwa. ^^
...from the land of imba
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 16 2008 02:31 GMT
#252
Everyone here thought Bisu was going to be the next Bonjwa, but is was for naught. Bisu was the false Bonjwa. We all thought he was the next light, because he defeated Savior, as Savior defeated oov, as oov defeated NaDa, as new Bonjwa defeats old Bonjwa. But now we know the truth. Now we know the true Bonjwa is not Bisu. So who do we see most likely to become the next Bonjwa? I'm saying it right now, if Jaedong kills Savoir this OSL 16, he could be the true Bonjwa. Destined to be great, and destined to fall.

:o...
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
January 16 2008 02:39 GMT
#253
On January 16 2008 11:31 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Everyone here thought Bisu was going to be the next Bonjwa, but is was for naught. Bisu was the false Bonjwa. We all thought he was the next light, because he defeated Savior, as Savior defeated oov, as oov defeated NaDa, as new Bonjwa defeats old Bonjwa. But now we know the truth. Now we know the true Bonjwa is not Bisu. So who do we see most likely to become the next Bonjwa? I'm saying it right now, if Jaedong kills Savoir this OSL 16, he could be the true Bonjwa. Destined to be great, and destined to fall.

:o...


That was so epic that I almost shit myself.

What if Bisu wins the next MSL and OSL? Will he be qualified to claim the Bonjwa name then?
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
January 16 2008 02:41 GMT
#254
he already lost 2 msl in a row
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
January 16 2008 02:49 GMT
#255
On January 16 2008 11:31 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Everyone here thought Bisu was going to be the next Bonjwa, but is was for naught. Bisu was the false Bonjwa. We all thought he was the next light, because he defeated Savior, as Savior defeated oov, as oov defeated NaDa, as new Bonjwa defeats old Bonjwa. But now we know the truth. Now we know the true Bonjwa is not Bisu. So who do we see most likely to become the next Bonjwa? I'm saying it right now, if Jaedong kills Savoir this OSL 16, he could be the true Bonjwa. Destined to be great, and destined to fall.

:o...


Or this can simply prove that Bonjwas are a silly concoction that people try to use to generalize and romanticize pro-gamers careers.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 16 2008 03:51 GMT
#256
BLASPHEMY~!
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-16 04:57:21
January 16 2008 04:54 GMT
#257
I'd like to mention that the pattern discussed here is a cute pattern, nothing more. Following this pattern is not the prerequisite for becoming a "bonjwa". Be dominant enough, the titles will follow.

This "will Bisu be bonjwa if he wins the next MSL?" is getting old. If Bisu ever does become "bonjwa", it'll be because he destroyed his opponents left and right (something he never quite managed to do) regardless of the situation.

"Bonjwa" needs to dominate, that's all. And by domination, I mean utter domination, winning against ALL, not just "he was unstoppable in proleagues" or "he may have not done well in proleagues but he got the most titles in individual leagues". Can anyone lay claim to such level of domination currently? Does anyone's play right now just REEK of raw domination? Nope. Can Bisu do it? Maybe. But it won't be because he managed to complete some pattern.

I personally find hope in Jaedong. But I'm biased because I have a soft spot for zerg users.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 16 2008 05:28 GMT
#258
It's going to be Jaedong because Bisu was the False Bonjwa. I thought I explained this quite clearly, non-believer :D
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17741 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-16 06:43:22
January 16 2008 06:41 GMT
#259
Out of everyone so far jaedong comes the closest in being a bonjwa. Look at the guy's zvt zvz stats.They scream oov all over. And his zvp is top too and still getting better. Jaedong is a monster. Hes the one to beat. And i think he will until some terran or zerg dominates him like 3-0 in a final.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 16 2008 06:52 GMT
#260
i think jaedong still got some more proofs to do.

sure he w00ped bisu in a classic arm wrestling match, but bisu wasnt bonjwa anyways.
i see stork as a strong contender if he can polish his pvz.
...from the land of imba
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