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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 16 2008 07:09 GMT
#261
Out of everyone so far jaedong comes the closest in being a bonjwa. Look at the guy's zvt zvz stats.They scream oov all over. And his zvp is top too and still getting better. Jaedong is a monster. Hes the one to beat. And i think he will until some terran or zerg dominates him like 3-0 in a final.

There is... one other. Inter.Mind :O He crushed through a very diverse number of match ups, and did it without any trouble. He just didn't do it very flashily, and he came out of no where, so no one's gotten a chance to really look at him yet.

Still...

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LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
January 28 2008 02:13 GMT
#262
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)
MenzieK
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States123 Posts
January 28 2008 02:22 GMT
#263
Savior didn't win the first MSL that he appeared in.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 28 2008 02:37 GMT
#264
On January 28 2008 11:13 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)


Woah wtf? Multitasking eventually makes you bad at multitasking?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-28 02:41:43
January 28 2008 02:38 GMT
#265
On January 28 2008 11:13 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)


Well, you just terrified me for a second, then I read it, It doesn't mean byStarcraft. Although that can be right because Progamers, it's a regular Starcraft game except with like 1000X the stress. And Savior, right now is probably stressed out of his mind 2x
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 28 2008 02:48 GMT
#266
Jaedong is totally the next Bonjwa. He dismantled Bisu. I can't picture another Protoss laying a glove on him, as Free lost to Savior, Ra is in iffy form, and Anytime plays on his team (I think Anytime JD would be a great matchup). Basically, if anybody has a shot at JD it's Anytime. His ZvT is absolutely monstrous. His ZvZ is perfect. Basically, I think that Lux has a shot of eking out a ZvZ win, as Anytime has a chance of beating him, otherwise this MSL belongs to him, and he looks miles ahead of anybody in the OSL.

Jaedong double champion this season, you heard it here first (probably not :|)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 28 2008 03:03 GMT
#267
He dismantled Bisu.


This is an awful statement. Jaedong was on the edge of his seat most of the game, and Jaedong miraculously won. Sure, Jaedong did win, but he didn't totally dismantle as you claim. Nevertheless, the game was on Blue Storm, so... ;D
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 28 2008 03:12 GMT
#268
On January 28 2008 12:03 Seraphim wrote:
Show nested quote +
He dismantled Bisu.


This is an awful statement. Jaedong was on the edge of his seat most of the game, and Jaedong miraculously won. Sure, Jaedong did win, but he didn't totally dismantle as you claim. Nevertheless, the game was on Blue Storm, so... ;D


I'm a JD fan, give me a little artistic freedom

Any other map and JD probably wouldn't have won. But, the case is made. JD can play ZvP in a very big way.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 02:58:37
January 29 2008 02:57 GMT
#269
On January 28 2008 11:13 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)



This is so interesting and scary at the same time.

If this article is right progamers are literally burning themselves out.

Multitasking constantly for 10 hours a day 6-7 days a week for a huge portion of the year... thats gotta put so much stress on the nervous system and body.
I will eat you alive
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 29 2008 03:03 GMT
#270
On January 28 2008 11:48 GeneralStan wrote:
Jaedong is totally the next Bonjwa. He dismantled Bisu. I can't picture another Protoss laying a glove on him, as Free lost to Savior, Ra is in iffy form, and Anytime plays on his team (I think Anytime JD would be a great matchup). Basically, if anybody has a shot at JD it's Anytime. His ZvT is absolutely monstrous. His ZvZ is perfect. Basically, I think that Lux has a shot of eking out a ZvZ win, as Anytime has a chance of beating him, otherwise this MSL belongs to him, and he looks miles ahead of anybody in the OSL.

Jaedong double champion this season, you heard it here first (probably not :|)


my man Lux is going to own JD
bash9
Profile Joined February 2008
25 Posts
February 10 2008 09:10 GMT
#271
On January 29 2008 11:57 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2008 11:13 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)



This is so interesting and scary at the same time.

If this article is right progamers are literally burning themselves out.

Multitasking constantly for 10 hours a day 6-7 days a week for a huge portion of the year... thats gotta put so much stress on the nervous system and body.


Most tasks you perform in BW are incredibly simple in nature. With the amount of practice progamers are getting, almost everything that can be multitasked is done completely mechanically and doesn't require any higher brain functions. I don't think BW multitasking puts a lot of stress on the brain per se.

However progamers don't play casual games. They're trying to push it as far as it will go. You can make any simple task stressful by trying to do it faster, better, stronger, whatever. I don't think burnout results from multitasking as much as from the stress one naturally expects in such a pressure-rich environment.
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
February 10 2008 11:10 GMT
#272
Yeah, pretty much what Bash9 said.

If this were true, Nada would be dead, instead of the sexy, miraculously long lasting schmuck he is.

"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
April 01 2008 04:16 GMT
#273
Theres something wrong with the thing on the front page..
on the Trigem MSL Iloveoov defeated Nada on the semifinals (checked on TLPD) and defeated Yellow on the finals.
My Theory
It seems like the Bonjwa seems to be going by defeating the last Bonjwa on the semifinals, like Savior beating Iloveoov on the semifinals, and people were thinking Bisu was going to be Bonjwa because he beat Savior on the MSL Finals, but when Mind came and played on GOM TV MSL Season 3 he defeated the last bonjwa (Savior) 3-2 and some reason it seems that Mind could be the next Bonjwa. again this is my theory it could be wrong
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 01 2008 04:22 GMT
#274
I think flash has a shot at becoming a legitimate bonjwa contender in the future

sun is pretty set on bisu and setting on jaedong
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
April 01 2008 05:20 GMT
#275
On April 01 2008 13:22 fusionsdf wrote:
I think flash has a shot at becoming a legitimate bonjwa contender in the future

sun is pretty set on bisu and setting on jaedong

what? setting on JaeDong? I'd say it's just started to rise.

imo, Bisu is an OSL title short of having the "Bonjwa" title.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
April 01 2008 05:26 GMT
#276
On April 01 2008 13:22 fusionsdf wrote:
I think flash has a shot at becoming a legitimate bonjwa contender in the future

sun is pretty set on bisu and setting on jaedong

jaedong's last match was an MSL Finals win
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
April 01 2008 06:18 GMT
#277
On April 01 2008 14:20 Live2Win wrote:
imo, Bisu is an OSL title short of having the "Bonjwa" title.

If Bisu had won the Ever OSL, or the Gom3 MSL then maybe. If both, definitely. Bisu was the best player since march and has been the best player up untill the end of the fall season. Winning either of those starleagues would give Bisu almost a whole year of uninterrupted domination over the progaming scene. In other words he'd have been sitting on the "throne" for almost a year.

If Bisu somehow wins a starleague in the future, it would be hard calling him a bonjwa because there will be players like Flash and Jaedong around who are better than him. How can you be called a bonjwa when there are two or more players who are better? He needed long term domination.
nerium
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Philippines512 Posts
April 01 2008 06:48 GMT
#278
On April 01 2008 13:22 fusionsdf wrote:
I think flash has a shot at becoming a legitimate bonjwa contender in the future

sun is pretty set on bisu and setting on jaedong


how the fuck is the sun setting on jaedong? last game was an MSL finals win
Lulz is a corrupted version of LOL
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-01 07:24:46
April 01 2008 07:20 GMT
#279
Ionno if (P)Bisu counts lol i mean if you check (T)iloveoov, (T)NaDa, (Z)sAviOr they have in their tlpd profiles atlest a highlights section if not more.

Not much love for (P)Bisu eh?
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Felagund
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines504 Posts
September 23 2008 18:38 GMT
#280
I do hope you forgive the bump, but with the new MSL season (and JD playing soon) . . .

I know bonjwas no longer exist cos of the closeness of skill gaps between players, where A classes can take on S classes on a good day, but what if, what if, what if . . .

Jaedong, who already won and OSL and an MSL (out of two straight finals appearances) reverses the trend? Winning an OSL before winning 3 (out of 4) MSLs?

That would be a beautiful, beautiful thing, wouldn't it?
TL CJ Entusman #5 "now she is unarmed, u shall go gather ur army, siege ur tanks and her choke and send some vessels to spot her lurkers, at this time she may have defilers so, if u spot some, unsiege and bring fbs" -Ki_Do
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