• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:12
CET 14:12
KST 22:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros6[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win52025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest4
StarCraft 2
General
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" DreamHack Open 2013 revealed
Tourneys
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
KPDH "Golden" as Squid Game…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1358 users

[Spoilers] The Bonjwa Story - Page 14

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 Next All
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 16 2008 07:09 GMT
#261
Out of everyone so far jaedong comes the closest in being a bonjwa. Look at the guy's zvt zvz stats.They scream oov all over. And his zvp is top too and still getting better. Jaedong is a monster. Hes the one to beat. And i think he will until some terran or zerg dominates him like 3-0 in a final.

There is... one other. Inter.Mind :O He crushed through a very diverse number of match ups, and did it without any trouble. He just didn't do it very flashily, and he came out of no where, so no one's gotten a chance to really look at him yet.

Still...

[image loading]
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
January 28 2008 02:13 GMT
#262
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)
MenzieK
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States123 Posts
January 28 2008 02:22 GMT
#263
Savior didn't win the first MSL that he appeared in.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 28 2008 02:37 GMT
#264
On January 28 2008 11:13 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)


Woah wtf? Multitasking eventually makes you bad at multitasking?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-28 02:41:43
January 28 2008 02:38 GMT
#265
On January 28 2008 11:13 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)


Well, you just terrified me for a second, then I read it, It doesn't mean byStarcraft. Although that can be right because Progamers, it's a regular Starcraft game except with like 1000X the stress. And Savior, right now is probably stressed out of his mind 2x
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 28 2008 02:48 GMT
#266
Jaedong is totally the next Bonjwa. He dismantled Bisu. I can't picture another Protoss laying a glove on him, as Free lost to Savior, Ra is in iffy form, and Anytime plays on his team (I think Anytime JD would be a great matchup). Basically, if anybody has a shot at JD it's Anytime. His ZvT is absolutely monstrous. His ZvZ is perfect. Basically, I think that Lux has a shot of eking out a ZvZ win, as Anytime has a chance of beating him, otherwise this MSL belongs to him, and he looks miles ahead of anybody in the OSL.

Jaedong double champion this season, you heard it here first (probably not :|)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 28 2008 03:03 GMT
#267
He dismantled Bisu.


This is an awful statement. Jaedong was on the edge of his seat most of the game, and Jaedong miraculously won. Sure, Jaedong did win, but he didn't totally dismantle as you claim. Nevertheless, the game was on Blue Storm, so... ;D
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 28 2008 03:12 GMT
#268
On January 28 2008 12:03 Seraphim wrote:
Show nested quote +
He dismantled Bisu.


This is an awful statement. Jaedong was on the edge of his seat most of the game, and Jaedong miraculously won. Sure, Jaedong did win, but he didn't totally dismantle as you claim. Nevertheless, the game was on Blue Storm, so... ;D


I'm a JD fan, give me a little artistic freedom

Any other map and JD probably wouldn't have won. But, the case is made. JD can play ZvP in a very big way.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 02:58:37
January 29 2008 02:57 GMT
#269
On January 28 2008 11:13 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)



This is so interesting and scary at the same time.

If this article is right progamers are literally burning themselves out.

Multitasking constantly for 10 hours a day 6-7 days a week for a huge portion of the year... thats gotta put so much stress on the nervous system and body.
I will eat you alive
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 29 2008 03:03 GMT
#270
On January 28 2008 11:48 GeneralStan wrote:
Jaedong is totally the next Bonjwa. He dismantled Bisu. I can't picture another Protoss laying a glove on him, as Free lost to Savior, Ra is in iffy form, and Anytime plays on his team (I think Anytime JD would be a great matchup). Basically, if anybody has a shot at JD it's Anytime. His ZvT is absolutely monstrous. His ZvZ is perfect. Basically, I think that Lux has a shot of eking out a ZvZ win, as Anytime has a chance of beating him, otherwise this MSL belongs to him, and he looks miles ahead of anybody in the OSL.

Jaedong double champion this season, you heard it here first (probably not :|)


my man Lux is going to own JD
bash9
Profile Joined February 2008
25 Posts
February 10 2008 09:10 GMT
#271
On January 29 2008 11:57 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2008 11:13 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Why do bonjwas fall regularly? Mystery solved:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/27/2221228&from=rss
*g* (or not "*g*" ?)



This is so interesting and scary at the same time.

If this article is right progamers are literally burning themselves out.

Multitasking constantly for 10 hours a day 6-7 days a week for a huge portion of the year... thats gotta put so much stress on the nervous system and body.


Most tasks you perform in BW are incredibly simple in nature. With the amount of practice progamers are getting, almost everything that can be multitasked is done completely mechanically and doesn't require any higher brain functions. I don't think BW multitasking puts a lot of stress on the brain per se.

However progamers don't play casual games. They're trying to push it as far as it will go. You can make any simple task stressful by trying to do it faster, better, stronger, whatever. I don't think burnout results from multitasking as much as from the stress one naturally expects in such a pressure-rich environment.
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
February 10 2008 11:10 GMT
#272
Yeah, pretty much what Bash9 said.

If this were true, Nada would be dead, instead of the sexy, miraculously long lasting schmuck he is.

"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
April 01 2008 04:16 GMT
#273
Theres something wrong with the thing on the front page..
on the Trigem MSL Iloveoov defeated Nada on the semifinals (checked on TLPD) and defeated Yellow on the finals.
My Theory
It seems like the Bonjwa seems to be going by defeating the last Bonjwa on the semifinals, like Savior beating Iloveoov on the semifinals, and people were thinking Bisu was going to be Bonjwa because he beat Savior on the MSL Finals, but when Mind came and played on GOM TV MSL Season 3 he defeated the last bonjwa (Savior) 3-2 and some reason it seems that Mind could be the next Bonjwa. again this is my theory it could be wrong
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 01 2008 04:22 GMT
#274
I think flash has a shot at becoming a legitimate bonjwa contender in the future

sun is pretty set on bisu and setting on jaedong
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
April 01 2008 05:20 GMT
#275
On April 01 2008 13:22 fusionsdf wrote:
I think flash has a shot at becoming a legitimate bonjwa contender in the future

sun is pretty set on bisu and setting on jaedong

what? setting on JaeDong? I'd say it's just started to rise.

imo, Bisu is an OSL title short of having the "Bonjwa" title.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
April 01 2008 05:26 GMT
#276
On April 01 2008 13:22 fusionsdf wrote:
I think flash has a shot at becoming a legitimate bonjwa contender in the future

sun is pretty set on bisu and setting on jaedong

jaedong's last match was an MSL Finals win
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
April 01 2008 06:18 GMT
#277
On April 01 2008 14:20 Live2Win wrote:
imo, Bisu is an OSL title short of having the "Bonjwa" title.

If Bisu had won the Ever OSL, or the Gom3 MSL then maybe. If both, definitely. Bisu was the best player since march and has been the best player up untill the end of the fall season. Winning either of those starleagues would give Bisu almost a whole year of uninterrupted domination over the progaming scene. In other words he'd have been sitting on the "throne" for almost a year.

If Bisu somehow wins a starleague in the future, it would be hard calling him a bonjwa because there will be players like Flash and Jaedong around who are better than him. How can you be called a bonjwa when there are two or more players who are better? He needed long term domination.
nerium
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Philippines512 Posts
April 01 2008 06:48 GMT
#278
On April 01 2008 13:22 fusionsdf wrote:
I think flash has a shot at becoming a legitimate bonjwa contender in the future

sun is pretty set on bisu and setting on jaedong


how the fuck is the sun setting on jaedong? last game was an MSL finals win
Lulz is a corrupted version of LOL
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-01 07:24:46
April 01 2008 07:20 GMT
#279
Ionno if (P)Bisu counts lol i mean if you check (T)iloveoov, (T)NaDa, (Z)sAviOr they have in their tlpd profiles atlest a highlights section if not more.

Not much love for (P)Bisu eh?
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Felagund
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines504 Posts
September 23 2008 18:38 GMT
#280
I do hope you forgive the bump, but with the new MSL season (and JD playing soon) . . .

I know bonjwas no longer exist cos of the closeness of skill gaps between players, where A classes can take on S classes on a good day, but what if, what if, what if . . .

Jaedong, who already won and OSL and an MSL (out of two straight finals appearances) reverses the trend? Winning an OSL before winning 3 (out of 4) MSLs?

That would be a beautiful, beautiful thing, wouldn't it?
TL CJ Entusman #5 "now she is unarmed, u shall go gather ur army, siege ur tanks and her choke and send some vessels to spot her lurkers, at this time she may have defilers so, if u spot some, unsiege and bring fbs" -Ki_Do
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Epic.LAN
13:00
Epic.LAN 46 Group Stage
Liquipedia
CrankTV Team League
13:00
Playoffs: Bo13
BASILISK vs Team Liquid
LiquipediaDiscussion
WardiTV Invitational
12:15
Playoffs
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
WardiTV652
TKL 208
IndyStarCraft 108
Rex72
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 219
TKL 213
Lowko180
IndyStarCraft 108
Rex 72
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 4218
Calm 2231
Flash 1333
Bisu 1306
Shuttle 514
Mini 429
actioN 386
firebathero 345
Backho 199
Sharp 151
[ Show more ]
Mong 92
Liquid`Ret 67
PianO 55
yabsab 47
Soulkey 41
Aegong 39
JulyZerg 30
Free 27
soO 19
Shine 16
Sacsri 11
Icarus 10
HiyA 9
Dota 2
Gorgc6189
qojqva1046
Dendi682
XcaliburYe257
KheZu219
420jenkins159
canceldota103
Counter-Strike
fl0m1992
allub133
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor143
Other Games
singsing2063
B2W.Neo840
Pyrionflax462
crisheroes265
Sick145
Fuzer 89
Liquid`LucifroN82
QueenE42
nookyyy 34
ArmadaUGS26
djWHEAT17
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL6775
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Epic.LAN
22h 48m
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
1d 5h
BSL Team A[vengers]
2 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.