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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49885 Posts
July 18 2023 11:51 GMT
#1
Source: https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/post/104786725

Qualifiers July 28-29th!

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TL+ Member
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria358 Posts
July 18 2023 12:27 GMT
#2
Expecting a flash of light on the stage, it's a fantasy of mine.
Sokokrey
Profile Joined January 2018
74 Posts
July 18 2023 12:29 GMT
#3
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!! CAN'T WAIT 😍😍
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
July 18 2023 13:53 GMT
#4
Great news
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1302 Posts
July 18 2023 15:49 GMT
#5
I am so happy!
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1049 Posts
July 18 2023 20:34 GMT
#6
Soulkey's season
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3672 Posts
July 18 2023 22:59 GMT
#7
So two weeks for Flash to make his comeback, fingers crossed!

Would also be daft to see Fantasy play the qualifiers.
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1669 Posts
July 19 2023 01:09 GMT
#8
RAIN PLEASE FUCKING PLAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
301 Posts
July 19 2023 03:20 GMT
#9
I really want Snow to win this season. It feels like he's been floating around as potentially the best in the world for a while now
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
430 Posts
July 19 2023 03:37 GMT
#10
Jangbi pls come back and save the protoss race of this terrible drought.
Broodwar Forever
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
July 19 2023 05:59 GMT
#11
sweet
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain591 Posts
July 19 2023 06:08 GMT
#12
Bisu Fightning!!!!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 19 2023 06:12 GMT
#13
OK! We got this !! Let's go !!!!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 19 2023 06:12 GMT
#14
It would be nice to be able to see the qualifiers games also
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States339 Posts
July 19 2023 08:35 GMT
#15
Rip my LB standing
Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark353 Posts
July 20 2023 14:45 GMT
#16
Gogogo! Please legend of the fall!
vtv.Teacher
Profile Joined August 2019
Thailand39 Posts
July 20 2023 16:03 GMT
#17
Having Flash, Rain & Fantasy for this season would be AMAZING.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
828 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-20 16:34:46
July 20 2023 16:33 GMT
#18
On July 19 2023 12:20 angry_maia wrote:
I really want Snow to win this season. It feels like he's been floating around as potentially the best in the world for a while now

Agreed, a Snow victory is overdue.

Also, really hope Afreeca use the "no swapping first choices" rule that they put in place for Champions Cup, would make for a much better Ro16.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 20 2023 18:34 GMT
#19
FlaSh, FanTaSy and Jangbi on this ASL and I'm locking myself in my room.
sunbeams are never made like me...
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States669 Posts
July 21 2023 02:29 GMT
#20
So excited! With the new map pool looking so solid, and SSAK bring himself into the upper tier of skill... with the return of Flash... so much to look forward to
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 21 2023 04:35 GMT
#21
As much as I love Jaedong , I really think Snow has to take this! He is in great shape! But I fear for him vs action, hero or rain. These 3 could easily beat him...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 21 2023 11:31 GMT
#22
Hmm... Rain has been playing a lot of BW lately. Maybe Flash asked him to join ASL as well, you know, to divide attention of the community. All guess work though. We'll see in a week time.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines525 Posts
July 21 2023 12:07 GMT
#23
if flash comes back, i won’t mind another tvt finals
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
BlindingLight
Profile Joined November 2012
Bulgaria2 Posts
July 25 2023 08:49 GMT
#24
Any news on the map pool?
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China129 Posts
July 25 2023 12:58 GMT
#25
On July 21 2023 21:07 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
if flash comes back, i won’t mind another tvt finals

No
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 25 2023 13:23 GMT
#26
What if Flash comes back but the TvT finals is between two other Terrans lol.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
July 25 2023 17:32 GMT
#27
On July 25 2023 17:49 BlindingLight wrote:
Any news on the map pool?



https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/614031-official-asl-16-mappool
I like starcraft
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-25 17:34:08
July 25 2023 17:33 GMT
#28
On July 25 2023 22:23 TMNT wrote:
What if Flash comes back but the TvT finals is between two other Terrans lol.


If rain is back too he has a good chance of making it to finals and then losing to flash

rooting for snow and soma though
I like starcraft
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 25 2023 18:06 GMT
#29
On July 26 2023 02:33 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2023 22:23 TMNT wrote:
What if Flash comes back but the TvT finals is between two other Terrans lol.


If rain is back too he has a good chance of making it to finals and then losing to flash

rooting for snow and soma though

Idk man he lost 0-2 to Leta just now.

But the last time I saw Rain playing BW at 3am he was preparing for ASL so maybe this time as well.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49885 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-27 03:00:02
July 27 2023 02:52 GMT
#30
reminder that qualifiers are tomorrow.

On July 26 2023 03:06 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2023 02:33 Ideas wrote:
On July 25 2023 22:23 TMNT wrote:
What if Flash comes back but the TvT finals is between two other Terrans lol.


If rain is back too he has a good chance of making it to finals and then losing to flash

rooting for snow and soma though

Idk man he lost 0-2 to Leta just now.

But the last time I saw Rain playing BW at 3am he was preparing for ASL so maybe this time as well.


you know these dudes lose the most random games to each other all the time, but I'll be happy to see him try to qualifiy
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-27 07:45:54
July 27 2023 07:44 GMT
#31
[image loading]


early group leaking indicates that both Rain and Effort are playing. Damn, those 24 slots suddenly seems too crowded.
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain591 Posts
July 27 2023 08:28 GMT
#32
Any new information on Flash or Fantasy?

Bisu Fightning!!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
July 27 2023 08:55 GMT
#33
So.. when are the qualifiers starting?

any info on that?
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 27 2023 09:10 GMT
#34
~ 2am tomorrow European time.

Fantasy sadly won't play, but he's going to Saudi with Bisu.
Flash - we need to wait if he shows up on challonge tomorrow as if he register he'd use a new ID not recognized by other pros.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
July 27 2023 09:37 GMT
#35
Tomorrow will be exciting
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 27 2023 11:24 GMT
#36
Holy !!! effort and Rain !!

Tomorrow is a big day! Let's hope we can see the games somewhere...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine109 Posts
July 27 2023 11:25 GMT
#37
According to the Tyson's stream:
Group 1: Light, Killer, Tyson
2: Rush, ggaemo, Calm
3: sorry, Sacsri, Sea[Shield]
4: Soma, Leta, Huro (chubby toss)
5: Soulkey, Mong, Motive
6: Zero, Sharp, Paralyze
7: JD, Barracks, Ample
8: Action, Shine, Scan
9: Mini, Stork, Hyuk
10: Bisu, Ssak, Hyun
11: Snow, Effort, 815
12: Shuttle, Rain, Yoon, Free, zelot
Du kan om du vill...
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 27 2023 14:36 GMT
#38
Only 3 players in the groups ?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine109 Posts
July 27 2023 14:59 GMT
#39
On July 27 2023 23:36 prosatan wrote:
Only 3 players in the groups ?

This is the list of featured players (ex-pros or gosu amateurs) among the all others who have signed up.
Du kan om du vill...
bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
July 27 2023 15:06 GMT
#40
Those line ups is sick! ASL could go easily with more groups and players!
Is there any chance Flash is in one of those groups for day 1 with new ID?
With Effort and Rain come back,Flash would be cherry on the top!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 27 2023 15:42 GMT
#41
This is the strongest qualifier we've had in a while since the 4 seeded players are actually weaker than the 12 who will qualify tomorrow lol.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States339 Posts
July 27 2023 15:57 GMT
#42
RAIN AND EFFORT? holy crap it's gonna be a lit season.

any notable non-participants? "mysterious ladder terran" and Fantasy?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 27 2023 16:16 GMT
#43
Well first of all they have to pass the qualifiers. If you follow their games recently then you would know them qualifying is not a given (like a Light or a Soma or a Mini who always just 2-0 all the way through qualifiers). Their play is shaky enough to be upset by lower tier players in a BO3 (like a Sacsri or a Piano).
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3343 Posts
July 27 2023 17:18 GMT
#44
poor Tyson man, "hey guys let s see the groups" -> gets Light
Horang2 fan
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1010 Posts
July 27 2023 17:30 GMT
#45
Good to see Rain and Effort back, as well as JD/Bisu/Stork yet again.

However... let's go Leta!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 27 2023 18:26 GMT
#46
On July 27 2023 23:59 marwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2023 23:36 prosatan wrote:
Only 3 players in the groups ?

This is the list of featured players (ex-pros or gosu amateurs) among the all others who have signed up.

Happy bday marwin!
Thank you for the info!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 27 2023 18:27 GMT
#47
I wish Shinee, the terran player, was there too! And hyun also...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 27 2023 18:28 GMT
#48
My bad, sorry! Hyun is there haha
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine109 Posts
July 27 2023 18:47 GMT
#49
On July 28 2023 03:27 prosatan wrote:
I wish Shinee, the terran player, was there too! And hyun also...

Shinee is banned from ASL, because he used to pass qualifications but refused to take part in main event.
Du kan om du vill...
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 27 2023 19:25 GMT
#50
On July 28 2023 03:47 marwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2023 03:27 prosatan wrote:
I wish Shinee, the terran player, was there too! And hyun also...

Shinee is banned from ASL, because he used to pass qualifications but refused to take part in main event.

Aaaaaa ! I swear I remember smth hmmm
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
July 27 2023 19:40 GMT
#51
Just 1 player advancing to Ro24 from each group? Do losers get to try again in the next day? That's how it usually works right?
I like starcraft
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 27 2023 21:56 GMT
#52
On July 28 2023 04:40 Ideas wrote:
Just 1 player advancing to Ro24 from each group? Do losers get to try again in the next day? That's how it usually works right?


Yes, they take the train to Busan.
sunbeams are never made like me...
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 00:19:54
July 28 2023 00:11 GMT
#53
looks like the groups Tyson revealed yesterday was completely off. Tyson Soulkey and Sea in group 1 now. Updating...

Damn challonge this year doesn't show the players real name, so you can only identify them by Blizzard IDs which makes it harder to spot "anonymous gosus"
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 00:29:28
July 28 2023 00:28 GMT
#54
On July 28 2023 09:11 TMNT wrote:
looks like the groups Tyson revealed yesterday was completely off. Tyson Soulkey and Sea in group 1 now. Updating...

Damn challonge this year doesn't show the players real name, so you can only identify them by Blizzard IDs which makes it harder to spot "anonymous gosus"


Scan is also in that group.
Skey is second final for winning ACS.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 06:10:47
July 28 2023 00:31 GMT
#55
Group 1: Soulkey, Tyson, Scan, Sea, Motive, Skey (ACS champion)

Group 2: Rush, Effort, Noob, True, Ridesky, Bale, Xiaoshuai

Group 3: Soma, Ssak, Zelot, Bishop, Piano

Group 4: Royal, Shine, Beast, Killer, Yoon, Artuser, Pusan (lmao they put all the low tier Zergs into this group for Royal to massacre)

Group 5: Queen, Barracks, Firebathero, SRich, Ddasik, Absolute

Group 6: Shuttle, Stork, Free, 815, Fleta

Group 7: Bisu, Sacsri, Calm, Taenggu

Group 8: Light, Hyun, Hyuk, Ruin, Kop

Group 9: Snow, Ample, Paralyze

Group 10: JD, Sharp, YSC, Noble, Mihu

Group 11: Rain, Action, Ggaemo, Leta, Spire (wtf is this group - it looks more like Ro24 ASL)

Group 12: Mini, Mong, Hm, Horang2, Zhanhun

Best is doing live update of the qualifiers, just watch him and you get the latest results possible
Incredible that Sharp and Action don't even get top seed in first day.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
July 28 2023 00:33 GMT
#56
On July 28 2023 09:31 TMNT wrote:
Group 1: Soulkey, Tyson, Scan, Sea, Skey (ACS champion)
Group 2: Rush, Effort, Noob, True, Ridesky
Group 3: Zelot, Bishop
Group 4: Royal, Beast, Killer, Pusan
Group 5: Firebathero
Group 6: Shuttle, Stork, Fleta
Group 7:
Group 8: Hyun
Group 9:
Group 10: YSC, Noble
Group 11: Rain
Group 12:


is that Bum Su nOOB or the other Noob?
Got a link to the challonge?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 28 2023 00:36 GMT
#57
On July 28 2023 09:33 RJBTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2023 09:31 TMNT wrote:
Group 1: Soulkey, Tyson, Scan, Sea, Skey (ACS champion)
Group 2: Rush, Effort, Noob, True, Ridesky
Group 3: Zelot, Bishop
Group 4: Royal, Beast, Killer, Pusan
Group 5: Firebathero
Group 6: Shuttle, Stork, Fleta
Group 7:
Group 8: Hyun
Group 9:
Group 10: YSC, Noble
Group 11: Rain
Group 12:


is that Bum Su nOOB or the other Noob?
Got a link to the challonge?

There are two Noobs? It's the Bumsu one.
The challonge link should be easy to find, but I just watch Best's stream. He even got access to the discord channel of the groups lol. Here it is:
https://challonge.com/ASL_S16_A

RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 00:48:43
July 28 2023 00:42 GMT
#58
On July 28 2023 09:36 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2023 09:33 RJBTV wrote:
On July 28 2023 09:31 TMNT wrote:
Group 1: Soulkey, Tyson, Scan, Sea, Skey (ACS champion)
Group 2: Rush, Effort, Noob, True, Ridesky
Group 3: Zelot, Bishop
Group 4: Royal, Beast, Killer, Pusan
Group 5: Firebathero
Group 6: Shuttle, Stork, Fleta
Group 7:
Group 8: Hyun
Group 9:
Group 10: YSC, Noble
Group 11: Rain
Group 12:


is that Bum Su nOOB or the other Noob?
Got a link to the challonge?

There are two Noobs? It's the Bumsu one.
The challonge link should be easy to find, but I just watch Best's stream. He even got access to the discord channel of the groups lol. Here it is:
https://challonge.com/ASL_S16_A


thank you for the link. yeah the other noob uses different capitalization. Bumsu uses nOOB. the other Noob. he has Dic_Noob and Noob[is] usernames on ladder usually.

Who is seed 12 in group 1? the Blizzard id looks familiar.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 00:50:05
July 28 2023 00:49 GMT
#59
On July 28 2023 09:42 RJBTV wrote:
Who is seed 12? the Blizzard id looks familiar.

No idea lol. Takes some next level knowledge to identify players based on IDs. If not for Best's notepad I wouldn't know 똑똑한망치 is Sea lol.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
July 28 2023 01:06 GMT
#60
On July 28 2023 09:49 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2023 09:42 RJBTV wrote:
Who is seed 12? the Blizzard id looks familiar.

No idea lol. Takes some next level knowledge to identify players based on IDs. If not for Best's notepad I wouldn't know 똑똑한망치 is Sea lol.

can you enter the ID into bnet ladder and give me the name it gives back? i should know who it is based off that. i currently do t have access to my pc.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 28 2023 01:12 GMT
#61
On July 28 2023 10:06 RJBTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2023 09:49 TMNT wrote:
On July 28 2023 09:42 RJBTV wrote:
Who is seed 12? the Blizzard id looks familiar.

No idea lol. Takes some next level knowledge to identify players based on IDs. If not for Best's notepad I wouldn't know 똑똑한망치 is Sea lol.

can you enter the ID into bnet ladder and give me the name it gives back? i should know who it is based off that. i currently do t have access to my pc.

No need to. It's Motive
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 04:40:43
July 28 2023 01:26 GMT
#62
Results:

Group 1: (Soulkey 2 vs 0 (Scan 1 vs 2 Motive)) 2 vs 0 (Tyson 2 vs 0 Sea). Soulkey then beat Skey (ACS champion) 2-0 to advance.

Group 2: (Rush 2 vs 0 Bale) 2 vs 1 (Noob 0 vs 2 Effort). Rush advances, Effort has to retry in day 2.

Group 3: (Soma 2 vs 0 (Zelot 0 vs 2 Bishop)) 0 vs 2 (Piano 1 vs 2 ivOry). We'ivOry (aka In Ji Ho) advances in the biggest surprise in ASL qualifiers in recent memory..
- 1st upset in group 3: Ssak eliminated by an amateur Zerg
- 2nd upset in group 3: Piano then eliminated by that same Zerg (We`ivOry)
- 3rd upset: that guy knocked Soma out as well to complete his incredible run.

Group 4: (Royal 2 vs 0 Pusan) 2 vs 0 (Beast 2 vs 0 Shine). Royal advances.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
July 28 2023 02:42 GMT
#63
On July 28 2023 10:26 TMNT wrote:
Results:

Group 1: (Soulkey 2 vs 0 (Scan 1 vs 2 Motive)) vs (Tyson 2 vs 0 Sea)

Group 2: (Rush vs Bale) vs (Noob 0 vs 2 Effort)

Group 3: (Soma vs (Zelot 0 vs 2 Bishop)) vs (Piano vs ?)
upset in group 3: Ssak eliminated by an amateur Zerg

Group 4:

ssak beasting in kcm, proleague and spons. loses to amateur zerg..
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 28 2023 03:20 GMT
#64
Queen got a scare as he lost to Sodam_Force (amateur Zerg) in the first game of round 2, but was able to come back 2-1 later.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 08:12:07
July 28 2023 03:50 GMT
#65
Group 5: (Queen 2 vs 1 SRich) 2 vs 0 (Barracks 2 vs 0 Absolute). Queen advances.

Group 6: (Shuttle 1 vs 2 Free) 1 vs 2 (Stork 2 vs 1 815). Stork advances.

Group 7: (Bisu 2 vs 0 Taenggu) 2 vs 1 (Sacsri 0 vs 2 Calm). Bisu advances.

Group 8: (Light 2 vs 1 Hyun) 2 vs 1 (Hyuk 0 vs 2 Ruin). Light advances.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
July 28 2023 04:10 GMT
#66
No official stream this time ?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 28 2023 04:17 GMT
#67
On July 28 2023 13:10 HOLYBATS wrote:
No official stream this time ?

starts in about 1 hour
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 04:42:00
July 28 2023 04:28 GMT
#68
On July 28 2023 11:42 RJBTV wrote:
ssak beasting in kcm, proleague and spons. loses to amateur zerg..

Holy shit Soma lost the first game vs this guy in the finals of group 3. He's no joke.
Omg Soma was knocked out by that guy, 0-2.

We already have Soma Shuttle Ssak Effort and Shine waiting for day 2.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
828 Posts
July 28 2023 04:46 GMT
#69
On July 28 2023 13:28 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2023 11:42 RJBTV wrote:
ssak beasting in kcm, proleague and spons. loses to amateur zerg..

Holy shit Soma lost the first game vs this guy in the finals of group 3. He's no joke.
Omg Soma was knocked out by that guy, 0-2.

We already have Soma Shuttle Ssak Effort and Shine waiting for day 2.

Soma got knocked out? The others I can kinda understand, but that's a bit of a shock.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 28 2023 04:53 GMT
#70
Official stream is now up https://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1/247529046
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 28 2023 04:53 GMT
#71
Please keep us update
And one question: Bishop plays with terran, right?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 04:55:46
July 28 2023 04:55 GMT
#72
Light lost the first game vs Hyun in the semifinals of group 8 while Queen is tying 1-1 with SRich. Scary time.

Yes Bishop is now permanently Terran.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
July 28 2023 04:55 GMT
#73
On July 28 2023 13:46 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2023 13:28 TMNT wrote:
On July 28 2023 11:42 RJBTV wrote:
ssak beasting in kcm, proleague and spons. loses to amateur zerg..

Holy shit Soma lost the first game vs this guy in the finals of group 3. He's no joke.
Omg Soma was knocked out by that guy, 0-2.

We already have Soma Shuttle Ssak Effort and Shine waiting for day 2.

Soma got knocked out? The others I can kinda understand, but that's a bit of a shock.

Props to this player. BW needs new comers.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 28 2023 04:56 GMT
#74
On July 28 2023 13:55 HOLYBATS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2023 13:46 QOGQOG wrote:
On July 28 2023 13:28 TMNT wrote:
On July 28 2023 11:42 RJBTV wrote:
ssak beasting in kcm, proleague and spons. loses to amateur zerg..

Holy shit Soma lost the first game vs this guy in the finals of group 3. He's no joke.
Omg Soma was knocked out by that guy, 0-2.

We already have Soma Shuttle Ssak Effort and Shine waiting for day 2.

Soma got knocked out? The others I can kinda understand, but that's a bit of a shock.

Props to this player. BW needs new comers.

He was born in 1996 - as young as Ddasik who made ASL 2 seasons ago. Both of them Zerg.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51397 Posts
July 28 2023 05:08 GMT
#75
zvz is very volatile especially in a bo3 online setting so i'm not too surprised tbh that soma got knocked out.

it has been his achilles since bursting onto the scene.
Commentator
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 05:24:30
July 28 2023 05:12 GMT
#76
Guys, a certain Lee Young Ho just popped out in Group 12. No information on ladder at all.

It's like a fresh account. It must be the one.

Edit: never mind, it's Mong. I didn't realize his battlenet ID was always Lee Young Ho's disciple lmao
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1141 Posts
July 28 2023 05:13 GMT
#77
beating ssak and piano is the more surprising results. probably went full zelot in them ironically
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 28 2023 05:22 GMT
#78
I am watching on Best stream.
soma vs ivory right now (zvz)
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 28 2023 05:23 GMT
#79
On July 28 2023 14:12 TMNT wrote:
Guys, a certain Lee Young Ho just popped out in Group 12. No information on ladder at all.

It's like a fresh account. It must be the one.

This is it TMNT ! The return of GOD!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 05:25:51
July 28 2023 05:25 GMT
#80
On July 28 2023 14:23 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2023 14:12 TMNT wrote:
Guys, a certain Lee Young Ho just popped out in Group 12. No information on ladder at all.

It's like a fresh account. It must be the one.

This is it TMNT ! The return of GOD!

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's actually Mong Looks like he deliberately hid one part of his ID on challonge to make it look like Flash lol
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 28 2023 05:32 GMT
#81
haaaaaaa!! He got me
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 09:41:23
July 28 2023 05:34 GMT
#82
Group 9: Snow 2 vs 0 (Ample 1 vs 2 Paralyze). Snow advances.

Group 10: (Jaedong 2 vs 0 Noble) 2 vs 0 (Sharp 1 vs 2 YSC). Jaedong advances.

Group 11: (Action 2 vs 0 Ggaemo) 2 vs 1 (Rain 2 vs 0 Leta). Action advances.

Group 12: (Mini 2 vs 0 Horang2) 2 vs 1 (Mong 2 vs 1 Hm). Mini advances.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1141 Posts
July 28 2023 05:34 GMT
#83
so much flash hopium lol. if he didnt show up for saudi event (easier since he would be distanced from the korean public) why would he for the national ASL event.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
July 28 2023 05:51 GMT
#84
Rush vs Effort on stream
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 07:55:56
July 28 2023 07:40 GMT
#85
I think Light vs Ruin currently 1-1.
edit: and JD seems to have qualified 2-0 Huro/YSC
edit2: Light apparently beat Ruin 2-1
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 28 2023 08:09 GMT
#86
YESSS !! Go JD!!!! pleaseeeeeeee
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51397 Posts
July 28 2023 08:13 GMT
#87
i love it when they just down a whole can of hot6ix on stream lmao
Commentator
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 08:54:16
July 28 2023 08:46 GMT
#88
Big names who have to fight in day 2: Soma, Effort, Ssak, Shuttle, Rain, Sharp, Shine, Barracks, Mong (probably), Free, Sacsri, Calm

That is 12 slots already.

Mini drawing 1 1 with Mong in the finals of group 12. Potentially another upset?
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
July 28 2023 08:49 GMT
#89
Ivory qualifying is in fact the greatest upset in starcraft history.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49885 Posts
July 28 2023 08:55 GMT
#90
Its a cause for celebration when anyone attempts to make a change to the status quo of the player pool. congrats to ivory for qualifying.
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masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain591 Posts
July 28 2023 08:58 GMT
#91
How old is Ivory?
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
July 28 2023 09:35 GMT
#92
On July 28 2023 17:46 TMNT wrote:
Big names who have to fight in day 2: Soma, Effort, Ssak, Shuttle, Rain, Sharp, Shine, Barracks, Mong (probably), Free, Sacsri, Calm

That is 12 slots already.

Mini drawing 1 1 with Mong in the finals of group 12. Potentially another upset?


personally wouldn't call Mong over Mini a real upset. Mong is known to have crazy highs, he just doesn't always reach those heights lol.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 28 2023 09:52 GMT
#93
Summary of day 1. Qualified players:

Stork, Bisu, Snow, Mini
Rush, Royal, Light
Soulkey, Queen, Jaedong, Action, IvOry

Soulkey, Royal, Jaedong and Snow just cruised through their groups.

Rush and Action unlucky to get Effort and Rain in their group, and had to fight hard in 3 games to beat them.

Slight scare for Light, Bisu, Queen and Mini but in the end the clear favorites got through.

Stork Shuttle and Free fought each other in a PvP slug fest with no clear favorite. Stork got chosen.

IvOry had probably the greatest underdog run in ASL qualifier, defeating Ssak, Piano and Soma to get himself his first ASL appearance. He's a ~2500 mmr Zerg born in 1996, was previously put in Joker tier in the Korean SC university system (the tier where the likes of Britney and Terror belong to)
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 18:52:13
July 28 2023 18:50 GMT
#94
Will be cool to see Ivory in Ro24, hopefully he's got some skill and didn't just cheese his way through his group. But beating Ssack and Soma is no joke! IIRC Soma hung around a lower amateur level for a long while before upping his game and bursting into pro-tier, so anything is possible. As far as I can tell, in BW terms being 26yo is pretty young nowadays
I like starcraft
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-28 19:45:16
July 28 2023 19:43 GMT
#95
It is time to make predictions! Who will qualify on day 2?

Honestly just want the entire OG Moonlight pro league crew to qualify. Ryoo Seung Gon Scan, Kim Taeyoung Ample, Won Seon Jae Motive, Kim Bum Soo nOOB, Bae Byung Woo Kante, Lee yehoon Sacsri, Hwang Byung Yung Barracks, Lee Young Woon Speed, Park Jae "Hyuk", Yoo Jin Woo Beast, Kim Yoon Hyuk Yabsab, Hong Deok Ruin, and Ko Seok "Hyun"

But these are not really predicitons, just what my heart wants to see.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 28 2023 21:52 GMT
#96
God, i love starcraft....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 04:32:18
July 29 2023 00:58 GMT
#97
Lineups for second qualifiers are up:

Group 1: Barracks, Zelot, Free, Paralyze, Soso

Group 2: Effort, Whyman (aka MC), Bale, Taenggu, Ridesky

Group 3: Shuttle, Hyuk, SRich, TY, Skey, Khala

Group 4: Rain, Ggaemo, Bishop, Yoon, Alone

Group 5: Mong, 815, Motive

Group 6: Sharp, Tyson, Noob, Jjabnewda (aka Ddasik)

Group 7: Ruin, Calm, Firebathero, Kop, Terror, Spire

Group 8: YSC, Leta, Beast, Hm

Group 9: Soma, Scan, Noble, Rock

Group 10: Shine, Ample, Piano

Group 11: Ssak, Sacsri, Killer

Group 12: Sea, Horang2, Hyun, Pusan, Saber (this group is rigged for Sea for sure - who's even the seed here?)
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile157 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 02:09:53
July 29 2023 01:57 GMT
#98
Khala in group 3 i think
Noob and 짭뉴다 (who played in asl 14) are in group 6

Is Scan not participating in day 2?
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 29 2023 02:18 GMT
#99
Scan will play for sure.

Some players only show up on day 2 like TY because they know they have no chance in day 1.

Shuttle suffered a minor scare as he lost the first game against a 2500 Zerg, but came back successfully.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1397 Posts
July 29 2023 02:53 GMT
#100
action said flash will not be participating on ASL due to health problem preventing him from practicing as planned

TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 10:04:00
July 29 2023 03:16 GMT
#101
Results:

G1: (Barracks 2 vs 1 Zelot) 1 vs 2 (Free 2 vs 1 Paralyze). Free advances.

G2: doesn't matter. Effort owns this group. 2-0 all the way through to advance first.

G3: (Shuttle 2 vs 0 Skey) 2 vs 0 ((TY 2 vs 1 SRich) 2 vs 1 (Hyuk 2 vs 0 Khala)). Shuttle advances

G4: Rain 2 vs 0 ((Yoon 2 vs 1 Ggaemo) 1 vs 2 Bishop)). Rain advances.

G5: Mong 2 vs 1 (Motive 1 vs 2 815). Mong advances.

G6: Sharp 2 vs 0 (Tyson 2 vs 0 Noob). Sharp advances

G7: Ruin 0 vs 2 Calm. Calm heartbroken record at ASL qualifiers finally came to an end. He returns to ASL after 7 seasons

G8: Leta 2 vs 1 (Beast 2 vs 1 Hm). Leta advances.

G9: Soma 2 vs 0 Scan. Soma advances.

G10: (Shine vs Ample) 2 vs 1 Artuser. Ample advances.

G11: Ssak 0 vs 2 (Sacsri vs Killer). Killer advances.

G12: (Horang2 2 vs 0 Hyun) 1 vs 2 (Sea 2 vs 0 Pusan) . Sea returns to ASL after 5 years.

TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 29 2023 03:53 GMT
#102
Lmao Calm lost his first qualifier game against Chaelyn the female Zerg player. Gonna be the butt of the joke for years.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
828 Posts
July 29 2023 03:57 GMT
#103
On July 29 2023 12:53 TMNT wrote:
Lmao Calm lost his first qualifier game against Chaelyn the female Zerg player. Gonna be the butt of the joke for years.

Wow, he lost to a player who didn't qualify for LASL16. That's impressive.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 04:05:33
July 29 2023 04:03 GMT
#104
On July 29 2023 12:57 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2023 12:53 TMNT wrote:
Lmao Calm lost his first qualifier game against Chaelyn the female Zerg player. Gonna be the butt of the joke for years.

Wow, he lost to a player who didn't qualify for LASL16. That's impressive.

No, she doesn't play LASL, not that she doesn't qualify for LASL. She's low S rank Zerg so a very good player. Probably better than most of the foreign Zergs too.

Still, embarassing for Calm nonetheless. But at least he managed to win the BO3 2-1 though.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
828 Posts
July 29 2023 04:17 GMT
#105
On July 29 2023 13:03 TMNT wrote:
No, she doesn't play LASL, not that she doesn't qualify for LASL

Dang, that's my only real way to evaluate female players gone...

Anyway, really glad to see Effort go through. Even if he's not at the height of his strength, he's been half of some of ASL's best series.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 29 2023 04:44 GMT
#106
Once again, TY advances to the finals of ASL qualifiers. He will face Shuttle this time. Tough one but Shuttle has a tendency to throw games and last time in ASL qualifiers TY took a game off Best, so who knows?
KarlHungus1908
Profile Joined May 2017
67 Posts
July 29 2023 05:29 GMT
#107
Barracks vs Free 3th set: such a late game and terran grades still 1-2..
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
54 Posts
July 29 2023 07:35 GMT
#108
ruin vs calm set broke my heart
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
July 29 2023 07:47 GMT
#109
Most likely Ample vs ArtUser in Group 10. Ample almost guaranteed qualified.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States339 Posts
July 29 2023 07:48 GMT
#110
NOOOO barracks at least Rain made it in, good amount of protoss this time
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 07:57:14
July 29 2023 07:53 GMT
#111
Scan lost vs Soma 0-2
Killer beat Ssak 2-0
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 08:10:18
July 29 2023 08:06 GMT
#112
Wtf Ssak. All those performances in KCM and Proleague only to crash out of ASL qualifiers? Legitimately a god tier player upset.

The change from Vermeer + Sylphid to Retro + Dark Origin has reduced the number of Terrans qualified this season it seems.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
July 29 2023 08:23 GMT
#113
Ample beat Shine and then Artuser to qualify.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
July 29 2023 08:39 GMT
#114
Sea 1-0 vs Horang2. Can he do it?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
July 29 2023 08:45 GMT
#115
On July 29 2023 17:06 TMNT wrote:
Wtf Ssak. All those performances in KCM and Proleague only to crash out of ASL qualifiers? Legitimately a god tier player upset.

The change from Vermeer + Sylphid to Retro + Dark Origin has reduced the number of Terrans qualified this season it seems.

good! ^^
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
July 29 2023 08:55 GMT
#116
Classic Leta 2port nets him the final 2-1 win over Beast to qualify.
FBH #1!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 29 2023 09:09 GMT
#117
All eyes on Sea right now
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
July 29 2023 09:18 GMT
#118
On July 29 2023 18:09 TMNT wrote:
All eyes on Sea right now

Especially as Calm qualifyed.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 10:03:31
July 29 2023 09:27 GMT
#119
He did it. Sea returns to ASL after 9 seasons.

Everyone expected Flash, and then Fantasy. Get Sea instead lmao.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
July 29 2023 09:28 GMT
#120
Sea won!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
July 29 2023 10:19 GMT
#121
Effort is back!!!! holy this season gonna be so dope.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
July 29 2023 10:51 GMT
#122
Happy to see Rain,Effort and Stork.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49885 Posts
July 29 2023 11:27 GMT
#123
On July 29 2023 12:53 TMNT wrote:
Lmao Calm lost his first qualifier game against Chaelyn the female Zerg player. Gonna be the butt of the joke for years.


oh boy this will be fun to write about.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
ateriavia
Profile Joined September 2022
2 Posts
July 29 2023 11:56 GMT
#124
sea's group was rigged lol
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
July 29 2023 12:06 GMT
#125
Great looking lineup!

Makes me wish for 3 ASL seasons per year even more..

Hope for some sick games. Protoss FIGHTING!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1000 Posts
July 29 2023 12:48 GMT
#126
Once again, Sharp "stole" a spot. Happy to see Free though, will miss action
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
July 29 2023 12:56 GMT
#127
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1000 Posts
July 29 2023 13:01 GMT
#128
And super happy to see Killer. Hope he find some motivation, guy is gifted and entertaining also
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 13:14:54
July 29 2023 13:09 GMT
#129
Expect at least 4 out of 6 groups to be groups of death lol.
Wouldn't be surprised if some tier 1 players go home after the first round.

Btw how nice a distribution we have this time? Tier 1 2 3 all have 2P 2T 2Z
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
54 Posts
July 29 2023 13:21 GMT
#130
Sad about Shine and sSak not making it - two of the most fun and unusual players to watch in my opinion.
Ruin must have been really stressed to let Calm of all people ling-flood him twice, also a bummer.
Having Ample instead of Barracks feels strange.
A newcomer like Ivory is always a nice surprise.and of course with Rain, Sea and Effort we're in for a show.

Still feels like a Protoss season somehow which is good to me.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 29 2023 13:27 GMT
#131
On July 29 2023 20:56 ateriavia wrote:
sea's group was rigged lol

Not really. Now that I saw Sea's ASL points that put him in tier 3, it makes total sense.

It seems like the ASL pts accumulated by a player does not disappear over time, or the counting period is very long, unlike in other sports where it's only counted for the last few years. In Sea's group, Horang2 is the top seed since he played many ASLs before with decent results. If you look up the other groups, it's hard to find a player with better coefficient than him.

So maybe we can make a case for Sea to be deliberately put in the group with the weakest (inactive) seed, but it could also be totally his luck.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3672 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 13:49:39
July 29 2023 13:48 GMT
#132
No Flash, no Fantasy, feelsbadman.
On the other hand having Rain and Effort is absolutely amazing! Gonna be a sick season for sure.
Sea being back after such a long time is also awesome to see, his finals vs flash was some great tvt, esp the battlecruiser game.

Crazy how stacked these qualifiers still are after all those years. Could start ASL with a Ro64 and still have an amazing lineup of players.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 14:34:37
July 29 2023 14:34 GMT
#133
The line-up is reminiscent of the early ASL seasons. Groups were awesome overall. Effort's group was criminally understacked though.

Ivory, Leta, Calm and Sea seem to be the weakest four players based on online performance over the past year. Actually got nothing to base Ivory's online performance on because he's that much of an unexpected "low tier" qualifier that I can't find any data anywhere...

Ample, Free, Killer seem to be the next in line skill wise followed by Stork, Mong, Sharp and Shuttle. After that most players are all very close in skill to each other until you get to Snow who has been extremely dominant in online play. But Online is different from on stage. At this point in time Snow seems to be favored along with Light and Soma, Maybe HerO. But as last season showed anything can happen.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
July 29 2023 14:54 GMT
#134
On July 29 2023 22:48 Lorch wrote:
No Flash, no Fantasy, feelsbadman.
On the other hand having Rain and Effort is absolutely amazing! Gonna be a sick season for sure.
Sea being back after such a long time is also awesome to see, his finals vs flash was some great tvt, esp the battlecruiser game.

Crazy how stacked these qualifiers still are after all those years. Could start ASL with a Ro64 and still have an amazing lineup of players.

+1 Lorch !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1010 Posts
July 29 2023 20:29 GMT
#135
This is an insane lineup most of the best players of each race (only Flash, Larva and Shine missing), 8 out of 11 ASL winners as well as players from the past and a completely new guy.

Most importantly, my boy Leta made it, with Wraiths no less.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 30 2023 00:12 GMT
#136
Wowow I was out of touch and didn't follow, this season looks wild even without our best terran comrades. Rain, EffOrt, Stork, Killer, Free, Leta and especially Sea!!! - I missed these guys. And very nice seeing JD competing.
sunbeams are never made like me...
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
July 30 2023 01:25 GMT
#137
rain is back?

with a little bracket luck (if he can avoid super defensive macro terran like light) i wonder if he could win ASL... or has he been playing too much LoL and other games?

maybe that world cup sc match where rain beat mini in the ace match was foreshadowing?

i need snow to take out light and then lose to rain, pls!
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1000 Posts
July 30 2023 05:37 GMT
#138
On July 29 2023 23:34 RJBTV wrote:
The line-up is reminiscent of the early ASL seasons. Groups were awesome overall. Effort's group was criminally understacked though.

Ivory, Leta, Calm and Sea seem to be the weakest four players based on online performance over the past year. Actually got nothing to base Ivory's online performance on because he's that much of an unexpected "low tier" qualifier that I can't find any data anywhere...

Ample, Free, Killer seem to be the next in line skill wise followed by Stork, Mong, Sharp and Shuttle. After that most players are all very close in skill to each other until you get to Snow who has been extremely dominant in online play. But Online is different from on stage. At this point in time Snow seems to be favored along with Light and Soma, Maybe HerO. But as last season showed anything can happen.


You will be surprised to see how Leta has improved over the last few months
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-30 10:16:30
July 30 2023 10:15 GMT
#139
On July 30 2023 14:37 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2023 23:34 RJBTV wrote:
The line-up is reminiscent of the early ASL seasons. Groups were awesome overall. Effort's group was criminally understacked though.

Ivory, Leta, Calm and Sea seem to be the weakest four players based on online performance over the past year. Actually got nothing to base Ivory's online performance on because he's that much of an unexpected "low tier" qualifier that I can't find any data anywhere...

Ample, Free, Killer seem to be the next in line skill wise followed by Stork, Mong, Sharp and Shuttle. After that most players are all very close in skill to each other until you get to Snow who has been extremely dominant in online play. But Online is different from on stage. At this point in time Snow seems to be favored along with Light and Soma, Maybe HerO. But as last season showed anything can happen.


You will be surprised to see how Leta has improved over the last few months


I saw he has been in a large number of spon matches and K leagues. Sea and Calm have been doing a lot more too. But I still rank them there based on what I have seen their winrates vs specific levels of players be. while I think they are weakest I dont think the gap between the skill tiers I gave are remotely significant. It is a very narrow gap.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 30 2023 10:36 GMT
#140
These guys being the head of their respective SC university definitely helps getting them back to the competitive scene.

I believe Calm received ~20k usd in donation from his stream yesterday after qualifying for ASL. Mental.
Jumnii
Profile Joined November 2022
2 Posts
July 30 2023 10:37 GMT
#141
I'm looking forward to ASL. Really awesome if you love Starcraft 1.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-30 17:30:15
July 30 2023 15:21 GMT
#142
On July 30 2023 19:36 TMNT wrote:
These guys being the head of their respective SC university definitely helps getting them back to the competitive scene.

I believe Calm received ~20k usd in donation from his stream yesterday after qualifying for ASL. Mental.


Damn that's so awesome. I loved Calm in the kespa days and it's so cool that he has such a big fanbase in Korea

Looking forward to seeing him plan a really brain-zerg style tricky build that he will probably fail to successfully pull off in the Ro24
I like starcraft
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-30 17:07:12
July 30 2023 17:06 GMT
#143
On July 30 2023 19:36 TMNT wrote:
These guys being the head of their respective SC university definitely helps getting them back to the competitive scene.

I believe Calm received ~20k usd in donation from his stream yesterday after qualifying for ASL. Mental.


Sea specifically disbanded his previous team after he(and his team) got smacked around by Shuttle and his team. He got ridiculed for it by his fans. He wasn't playing brood war seriously enough. Since then he's been serious again.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2825 Posts
July 30 2023 17:41 GMT
#144
On July 29 2023 21:56 HOLYBATS wrote:
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Thanks for the relay, Holybats!

This is gonna be a burn barner. Really hoping the bed shitting is off the table for Mini and soma and they eat everyone's guts like they should. /gets popcorn

aka wilted_kale
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 30 2023 21:53 GMT
#145
Im so fucking hypeeeuuu ! ! !
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Zealgoon
Profile Joined January 2013
China187 Posts
July 31 2023 03:44 GMT
#146
On July 30 2023 19:36 TMNT wrote:
These guys being the head of their respective SC university definitely helps getting them back to the competitive scene.

I believe Calm received ~20k usd in donation from his stream yesterday after qualifying for ASL. Mental.

I thought the university thing had ended? Is there a new season?
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
July 31 2023 07:20 GMT
#147
Results of the past 15 ASL seasons:
Terrans - 7 wins
Zerg - 4 wins
Protoss - 3 wins

Combinations in the final:
TvsP - 5 times
TvsZ - 4 times
TvsT - 3 times
PvsZ, ZvsZ, PvsP - 1 time each

Therefore, we need a final: PvsZ and the victory of the protoss!
Rivo, rivo, rivo, lego, plego, plego))
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-31 12:54:36
July 31 2023 12:54 GMT
#148
On July 31 2023 16:20 Sonic_md wrote:
Results of the past 15 ASL seasons:
Terrans - 7 wins
Zerg - 4 wins
Protoss - 3 wins

Combinations in the final:
TvsP - 5 times
TvsZ - 4 times
TvsT - 3 times
PvsZ, ZvsZ, PvsP - 1 time each

Therefore, we need a final: PvsZ and the victory of the protoss!
Rivo, rivo, rivo, lego, plego, plego))


So actually in premeire starleagues (OSL/MSL/ASL) there have only ever been 3 times that a protoss beat a zerg in a final: Grrr and garimto winning the first 2 OSLs in 2000 and then Bisu beating Savior in 2007. Besides that every time there was a PvZ finals the zerg won. And honestly it feels like those 1st 2 don't even count since meta and map design was sooo different back then lol.
I like starcraft
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-31 13:38:15
July 31 2023 13:29 GMT
#149
On July 31 2023 12:44 Zealgoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2023 19:36 TMNT wrote:
These guys being the head of their respective SC university definitely helps getting them back to the competitive scene.

I believe Calm received ~20k usd in donation from his stream yesterday after qualifying for ASL. Mental.

I thought the university thing had ended? Is there a new season?

It was reborn under slightly difference form. This time the number of pros involved is less than the last time (when almost everyone was involved), but we don't know if more will join later.

For anyone curious, here are the list of current university/academy/club (whatever it's called):

- UKKZ, lead by Leta
- CSWU, lead by Calm & Action, with Effort, 815, Hyun, Miso (Cadenzie is here too)
- JSA, with Shuttle, Ruin, Killer, Ample
- BSU, with GoRush, Shine, Sharp, Free, Pusan
- NZU, with Ssak, Shinee
- GSU, with Piano, Motive, Beast, Zelot, Bishop
- DP, lead by Best, Hyuk and Royal
- YB, lead by Sea, with Rush, ggaemo, Stork, Scan, Tossgirl
- CGU, lead by Terror, with Soma, Mong
- LC, lead by Rain, with Soulkey & Tyson
... and there are also a couple more with less known players

If you look at it, the top pros (like Major Proleague players) are not as involved as the last time, except for a few. They are earning more than enough via streaming and proleague. But this model largely benefits the mid to low tier pros in that now they can participate in team events and coaching and increase their popularity, all of which leads to higher incomes.

Guys like Rain, Calm, Sea, Terror and Shuttle are key in this movement as they are both ex-pros and very popular variety streamer. Their involvement alone have helped bringing hunder of thousands of dollar into the scene (and their pocket as well :D)
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
July 31 2023 13:43 GMT
#150
That's so cool. Is the goal of the university system to train up a newer generation of players (like a mentorship-style thing)? Or more of just a sort of "for fun" streaming event thing?
I like starcraft
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
July 31 2023 13:52 GMT
#151
On July 31 2023 22:43 Ideas wrote:
That's so cool. Is the goal of the university system to train up a newer generation of players (like a mentorship-style thing)? Or more of just a sort of "for fun" streaming event thing?

I think the main goals are just to create streaming content and have fun, while also maintain/increase BW popularity in Korea. Of course money is an incentive as well.

You do have new generation of players "training" in these universities though, like Skey the current ACS champion. But without the crazy training regime enforced during Kespa, it's largely their own effort to improve, still. But at least with this university scene, they earn money playing BW, compared to the past when it was really hard for non top pros.
ForTheTrees1
Profile Joined July 2023
1 Post
July 31 2023 23:45 GMT
#152
Hello, i am lucky enough to be going to SK in September and would like to attend an ASL event.

Can someone help me pinpoint where the studio is and how i can get tickets to the event? Tried googling whats in the OP but cant seem to get a location.
Postaljester_
Profile Joined April 2023
27 Posts
August 01 2023 05:31 GMT
#153
Great line up. Big fan of snow, if my heart could choose I am feeling mong this season.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
August 01 2023 06:54 GMT
#154
[image loading]

Some brutal groups. As I said, tier 1 and tier 2 players going home after the first round is to be expected.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7763 Posts
August 01 2023 07:17 GMT
#155
This is it boys and girls!

Let the LB start !!!

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
August 01 2023 07:24 GMT
#156
On August 01 2023 15:54 TMNT wrote:
Some brutal groups. As I said, tier 1 and tier 2 players going home after the first round is to be expected.


There is such. The groups are as even as possible. Unless the favorites of the groups can be called Light and Queen. Yes, even with a stretch.
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Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
August 01 2023 07:24 GMT
#157
Niceoo!!!!

Dear gentlemen progamers. Please. show some new options for build orders. I understand that good money is at stake as a prize and there is no time for experiments, you need to use tactics that have been proven over the years. But still. We all love this game for its variety, which has been lacking lately. Thx
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
August 01 2023 07:49 GMT
#158
some really strong groups, indeed!

this is shaping up to be an awesome season of ASL Brood War

hope it actually delivers, too ^^
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
54 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-01 08:03:24
August 01 2023 08:02 GMT
#159
Group B looks like a thoroughly planned prank. Imagine how much views Afreeca will get for this battle of three streaming divas.(Rain by the way should go through)
iRkSupperman
Profile Joined October 2022
Norway130 Posts
August 01 2023 08:07 GMT
#160
Group B is extremely troll, putting all of the variety streamers (Calm, Rain, Sea) together like that.
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
54 Posts
August 01 2023 08:08 GMT
#161
These are super fun groups. Group B looks like a good show. Group C looks hilariously easy for Snow. Group D looks the most lethal. Shoutout to iVory who made it through qualifiers for the first time in his life only to find himself immediately in the company of Bisu, Stork and Rush.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
August 01 2023 08:10 GMT
#162
Interesting line ups. Both challenging and exciting.
vtv.Teacher
Profile Joined August 2019
Thailand39 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-01 09:11:09
August 01 2023 09:09 GMT
#163
My picks:

A: Soma (Z) - Mong (T) ----- (Yeah I think Mong is gonna cause an upset and top Mini in that group)
B: Soulkey (Z) - Rain (P)
C: Snow (P) - Royal (T)
D: Light (T) - Action (Z)
E: Queen (Z) - Sharp (T)
F: Rush (T) - Bisu (P) ----- (hard to pick here between Bisu & Stork -- I'll go with Bisu though)
vtv.Teacher
Profile Joined August 2019
Thailand39 Posts
August 01 2023 09:28 GMT
#164
Does anyone have any informations about ivOry?

The way he beat Soma in the qualifier during day 1 was quite impressive (esp game 2 where he just literally stomped him out).

EnZo-
Profile Joined August 2023
1 Post
August 01 2023 12:29 GMT
#165
Is there any way to get the replays or vods from the qualifiers of ASL?
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
August 01 2023 12:58 GMT
#166
anything can happen in a bo1 unfortunately...

A: Mini / Soma - Mong much inferior to the favorites but good enough to pull off a bo1 upset, Mong's weak bio might make Soma the tougher matchup

B: Soulkey / Rain - I can actually see Calm pulling of the ZvZ upset vs Soulkey but besides that Soulkey and Rain are heavily favored in a soft group

C: Snow / Royal - soft group for the favorites

D: Light / Action - group of death but Light should be favored against the Zergs and a relatively weak P in Free. Action edges out Effort (but I am rooting for Effort)

E: Queen / JD - I generally root for Sharp but he has shown nothing for several ASLs in a row. Sharp's TvZ is his worst matchup and his once great TvT has been underwhelming in recent times. Clear case of putting strongest tier 3 w the weakest tier 2

F: Rush / Bisu - Rush gets an "easier" group than Light, but has to face 2 formidable Protoss that can take him out in a bo1. Ivory should be fodder
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
August 01 2023 13:44 GMT
#167
ASL16ChampionAction
or
ASL16ChampionBest

gogo
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vtv.Teacher
Profile Joined August 2019
Thailand39 Posts
August 01 2023 14:22 GMT
#168
On August 01 2023 21:29 EnZo- wrote:
Is there any way to get the replays or vods from the qualifiers of ASL?


https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/105228243
https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/105265147

Right here -- enjoy!
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States339 Posts
August 01 2023 16:37 GMT
#169
Rn I'm mostly going with T1/T2s, but gotta acknowledge group D is kind of a tossup, especially if Flash was talking to Action (and maybe sharing some novel strategies). Very excited about the Ro24 this time! Hope the new maps allow some wacky strats to appear.

A - Mini / Soma
B - Rain / SK
C - Snow / Royal
D - Light / Effort
E - JD / Sharp
F - Rush / Bisu
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
828 Posts
August 01 2023 17:49 GMT
#170
This season is just insanely stacked, even if some of the competitors are a little rusty. Like all of these could be Ro16 groups. A few Ro16 Group A, but still.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-01 18:00:05
August 01 2023 17:58 GMT
#171
such a shame that ro24 is still bo1..

ugh
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-01 19:08:49
August 01 2023 19:06 GMT
#172
In every new ASL draw since seasons 2-3, I always support the player rotation at least at the semi-final stage. If you look at all the players who have never (!) been in the finals and at least were in the semi-finals, I am rooting for those.
That's why I support these players: Jaedong, Best, Bisu, SoulKey, Action.

I think these legendary players deserve to play at least in the final. It's even surprising that none of them played in the final in 15 ASL seasons. Therefore, I am for this 5.
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RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-02 11:26:47
August 02 2023 11:24 GMT
#173
On August 01 2023 15:54 TMNT wrote:
[image loading]

Some brutal groups. As I said, tier 1 and tier 2 players going home after the first round is to be expected.


A:
Mini/Soma > Mong > Leta. Mong can upset if he's in peak condition but seems unlikely.

B:
Rain/Soulkey >>> Calm/Sea. Big gap between top 2 and bottom 2. Pretty much set in stone.

C:
Snow > RoyaL > Shuttle > Killer. Snow and Royal seems guaranteed but both Killer and Shuttle are capable of upsetting this group. Weird group that will have upsets but based on statistics Snow and Royal should roll this.

D:
Light > Action/Effort > Free. Light seems favored but Action and Effort have the potential to take Light out. Free seems shaky in his consistency. Good form Free can upset either Action or Effort, but he's clearly the weakest in this group. Group of death?

E:
Queen/Jaedong > Sharp > Ample. Last season, Ample was with Soma, Mind and Best(who went to semi-finals and finals) which was in hindsight arguably the strongest group in ASL15. Ample upset Soma and he's capable of upsetting either Queen or Jaedong with TvZ being his best. I don't see Ample upsetting Sharp however. Sharp seems stronger in TvT. Sharp is capable of taking Jaedong or Queen if he doesn't choke. I am calling this group for upsets.

D:
Bisu/Rush >> Stork >> Ivory. Saw some sponmatches with Ivory and he doesn't seem to be on he same level. He has good early all in play but Bisu and Rush are both strong against that. There's potential for Ivory to upset stork, but neither Stork or Ivory can take on Bisu or Rush.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-02 12:31:15
August 02 2023 12:30 GMT
#174
On August 02 2023 20:24 RJBTV wrote:
D:
Bisu/Rush >> Stork >> Ivory. Saw some sponmatches with Ivory and he doesn't seem to be on he same level. He has good early all in play but Bisu and Rush are both strong against that. There's potential for Ivory to upset stork, but neither Stork or Ivory can take on Bisu or Rush.

Bisu is in general the better player (much better) compared to Stork. But in PvP I feel like you can't say anything unless it's Best playing. The skill gap between players seem to be blurred the most in PvP among all match-ups, if you know what I mean. For example if you compare Bisu's PvT and PvZ to someone like Shuttle, it's day and night, but if you look at the head to head record, Bisu only won 2 out of 3 times vs Shuttle, which means in a BO1 Shuttle can eliminate Bisu quite easily. Same for Stork.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-02 17:55:21
August 02 2023 13:29 GMT
#175
One thing is for sure, Stork cannot complain about his group. Far from being a Stork fan myself, but i see him reaching RO16 a good % with that group. (~35%)

- I cannot believe that, in 2023, people still believe in Sharp. Hes on pace to reach the Movie tier quite soon.

Group A is definately the funniest group. Fun players, and everyone has a shot to advance. I am quite impressed about Leta lately. I dont count him out.

Also, poor shuttle. RO16 has to wait again, it looks like.

.

Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
August 02 2023 14:13 GMT
#176
> Ivory beats Rush
> Ivory beats Bisu
> Enraged Bisu fan rushes the stage and rips off Ivory’s mask
> It’s MustacheZerg
May the BeSt man win.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
August 02 2023 16:12 GMT
#177
On August 02 2023 21:30 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2023 20:24 RJBTV wrote:
D:
Bisu/Rush >> Stork >> Ivory. Saw some sponmatches with Ivory and he doesn't seem to be on he same level. He has good early all in play but Bisu and Rush are both strong against that. There's potential for Ivory to upset stork, but neither Stork or Ivory can take on Bisu or Rush.

Bisu is in general the better player (much better) compared to Stork. But in PvP I feel like you can't say anything unless it's Best playing. The skill gap between players seem to be blurred the most in PvP among all match-ups, if you know what I mean. For example if you compare Bisu's PvT and PvZ to someone like Shuttle, it's day and night, but if you look at the head to head record, Bisu only won 2 out of 3 times vs Shuttle, which means in a BO1 Shuttle can eliminate Bisu quite easily. Same for Stork.

3 games is a very small sample size though. But you are right. The fewer the amount of games to be played, the higher the upset potential.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
August 02 2023 17:40 GMT
#178
It's only round of 24 and I'm seeing so many groups of death! Ro16 gonna be crazy.
sunbeams are never made like me...
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1669 Posts
August 02 2023 17:50 GMT
#179
RAIN IS FUCKING BACK LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

IM SO HAPPY

ASL SEASON 16 CHAMPION RAIN

•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
August 02 2023 19:12 GMT
#180
On August 01 2023 18:28 vtv.Teacher wrote:
Does anyone have any informations about ivOry?

The way he beat Soma in the qualifier during day 1 was quite impressive (esp game 2 where he just literally stomped him out).



I think I never thought of any zerg ever of being amazing or impressive for winning a ZvZ (rofl)
hatred outlives the hateful
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
August 02 2023 19:22 GMT
#181
On August 03 2023 04:12 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2023 18:28 vtv.Teacher wrote:
Does anyone have any informations about ivOry?

The way he beat Soma in the qualifier during day 1 was quite impressive (esp game 2 where he just literally stomped him out).



I think I never thought of any zerg ever of being amazing or impressive for winning a ZvZ (rofl)

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



He displayed really good muta+scourge control.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1000 Posts
August 02 2023 19:34 GMT
#182
On August 03 2023 04:12 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2023 18:28 vtv.Teacher wrote:
Does anyone have any informations about ivOry?

The way he beat Soma in the qualifier during day 1 was quite impressive (esp game 2 where he just literally stomped him out).



I think I never thought of any zerg ever of being amazing or impressive for winning a ZvZ (rofl)


what? you must be quite good
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada73 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-02 23:51:25
August 02 2023 21:46 GMT
#183
On July 31 2023 02:06 RJBTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2023 19:36 TMNT wrote:
These guys being the head of their respective SC university definitely helps getting them back to the competitive scene.

I believe Calm received ~20k usd in donation from his stream yesterday after qualifying for ASL. Mental.


Sea specifically disbanded his previous team after he(and his team) got smacked around by Shuttle and his team. He got ridiculed for it by his fans. He wasn't playing brood war seriously enough. Since then he's been serious again.


I thought the Yuamseok University won the season 1 champion? As record goes all the champion team are disbanded.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
August 02 2023 22:33 GMT
#184
On August 03 2023 04:12 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2023 18:28 vtv.Teacher wrote:
Does anyone have any informations about ivOry?

The way he beat Soma in the qualifier during day 1 was quite impressive (esp game 2 where he just literally stomped him out).



I think I never thought of any zerg ever of being amazing or impressive for winning a ZvZ (rofl)


I mean jaedong having 75+ % ZvZ until like 2010 was super impressive until the rest of the zergs caught up with him.
I like starcraft
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
August 03 2023 06:36 GMT
#185
do we know the map choices availible to players for sets 3-5?
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
August 03 2023 08:04 GMT
#186
Game 1 and 2 on Apocalypse
Winners and losers matches: each player ban 1 out of Tempest, Campanella, Invader
Final match: each player ban 1 out of Dark Origin, Retro, Polypoid
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
August 03 2023 08:20 GMT
#187
On August 03 2023 06:46 End1ess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2023 02:06 RJBTV wrote:
On July 30 2023 19:36 TMNT wrote:
These guys being the head of their respective SC university definitely helps getting them back to the competitive scene.

I believe Calm received ~20k usd in donation from his stream yesterday after qualifying for ASL. Mental.


Sea specifically disbanded his previous team after he(and his team) got smacked around by Shuttle and his team. He got ridiculed for it by his fans. He wasn't playing brood war seriously enough. Since then he's been serious again.


I thought the Yuamseok University won the season 1 champion? As record goes all the champion team are disbanded.

it happened early this year. championship was in november. He changed to a less serious format with YB.
vtv.Teacher
Profile Joined August 2019
Thailand39 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-03 10:23:51
August 03 2023 10:21 GMT
#188
On August 03 2023 04:22 RJBTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2023 04:12 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On August 01 2023 18:28 vtv.Teacher wrote:
Does anyone have any informations about ivOry?

The way he beat Soma in the qualifier during day 1 was quite impressive (esp game 2 where he just literally stomped him out).



I think I never thought of any zerg ever of being amazing or impressive for winning a ZvZ (rofl)

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



He displayed really good muta+scourge control.


More than good -- he did amazing. He literally treated Soma as if he was his children. If you guys haven't seen the games I suggest you do. It wasn't even close.

It's a shame we know so little about him going into ASL because I would love to know how he fare against T-P..

Seeing fresh bloods in ASL is always a good thing.
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
August 03 2023 12:44 GMT
#189
It seems ivory is Flash playing with Zerg. Exciting times...
http://weclan.cafe24.com/v2/main/default.aspx
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
August 03 2023 13:08 GMT
#190
You mean his style is like Flash playing Zerg? But what was Flash's style with Zerg anyway?

By the way, after the qualifier ivory earned himself a series of games with the big names, but he lost all of them: 0-4 to Royal, 0-1 to Snow, 0-2 to Sharp, 0-2 to Shuttle, even 0-2 to Sea. Maybe he was just playing out of his mind on qualifier day.
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
August 03 2023 13:42 GMT
#191
well, like Flash always will be ready when ASL starts...
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-03 15:04:33
August 03 2023 15:04 GMT
#192
On August 03 2023 22:08 TMNT wrote:
You mean his style is like Flash playing Zerg? But what was Flash's style with Zerg anyway?

By the way, after the qualifier ivory earned himself a series of games with the big names, but he lost all of them: 0-4 to Royal, 0-1 to Snow, 0-2 to Sharp, 0-2 to Shuttle, even 0-2 to Sea. Maybe he was just playing out of his mind on qualifier day.

Yeah those sponmatches got my hopes for IvOry down a little. specifically the 0-2 vs Sea whom I consider among the weakest this ASL.
bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
August 03 2023 15:12 GMT
#193
Is there any official news about Flash health and reason he skip this ASL season?
I really hope crypto scandal wont affect his return...If someone is so stupid to invest money cause some streamer gamer told them on stream...
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6167 Posts
August 03 2023 17:07 GMT
#194
Will Nyoken cast ASL?
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-03 17:45:20
August 03 2023 17:44 GMT
#195
On August 04 2023 00:12 bracala wrote:
Is there any official news about Flash health and reason he skip this ASL season?
I really hope crypto scandal wont affect his return...If someone is so stupid to invest money cause some streamer gamer told them on stream...


I asked same question on BW general and I heard (original post from jinjin) that Action said FlaSh has health issues that doesn't let him to practice as he wants. That's all we know. Kinda strange if it's wrist related because he came back from military not long ago.

In other hand so glad we got EffOrt back, I thought he retired because of wrist issues but he's back to bang!
sunbeams are never made like me...
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
August 03 2023 18:26 GMT
#196
On August 03 2023 17:04 TMNT wrote:
Game 1 and 2 on Apocalypse
Winners and losers matches: each player ban 1 out of Tempest, Campanella, Invader
Final match: each player ban 1 out of Dark Origin, Retro, Polypoid

Thank You very much
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
August 03 2023 18:34 GMT
#197
On August 04 2023 03:26 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2023 17:04 TMNT wrote:
Game 1 and 2 on Apocalypse
Winners and losers matches: each player ban 1 out of Tempest, Campanella, Invader
Final match: each player ban 1 out of Dark Origin, Retro, Polypoid

Thank You very much

Hopefully we will get nice distribution in the ro24
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
August 09 2023 19:07 GMT
#198
will there be ASL in Liquibet this season? or is LB dead?
hatred outlives the hateful
ERSJ
Profile Joined October 2018
Sweden57 Posts
August 11 2023 13:17 GMT
#199
Hype!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19207 Posts
August 11 2023 13:31 GMT
#200
On August 10 2023 04:07 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
will there be ASL in Liquibet this season? or is LB dead?

Liquibet is not dead lol. I thought the season started the 17th. I'll be adding bets shortly.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
August 11 2023 14:22 GMT
#201
Since group A starts in 3 days, I'm gonna drop a telling stats here:

Mini's form has dipped real fast since June. Despite being the top 3 player in Proleague for the first half of the year, he was only 50% in July and now in August currently sitting at 33% win rate. He just lost to Barracks today as well. Mini vs Mong could certainly go either way.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1143 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-11 14:56:35
August 11 2023 14:55 GMT
#202
Rain looks like he doesn't take it seriously when he joins those PL matches.

I was trying to recall what he was like earlier on in his career. I think the financial success kind of took the edge of his competitive spirit and he's just happy to be around for his fans.

Makes me appreciate Flash and Jaedong even more. Those guys were set awhile back but whenever they play they're still eager to destroy their opponents. Bisu and Rain give me the opposite vibes.
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1010 Posts
August 11 2023 15:03 GMT
#203
My god group B... anyway:

A: Mini, soma
B: SoulKey, Rain
C: SnOw, RoyaL
D: Light, effOrt
E: Queen, JD
F: Bisu, Rush
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
August 11 2023 16:27 GMT
#204
I'm hoping for Leta and the new kid to surprise us.
FBH #1!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
August 12 2023 06:52 GMT
#205
Hoping for a royal roader!!
The heart's eternal vow
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-12 08:06:27
August 12 2023 08:03 GMT
#206
Cadenzie vs Tossgirl in Ladies ASL16 final is starting now if i am not wrong. Scan(?) as a Mr Translator and FBH on stage also
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2825 Posts
August 12 2023 16:00 GMT
#207
On August 11 2023 23:55 oxKnu wrote:
Rain looks like he doesn't take it seriously when he joins those PL matches.

I was trying to recall what he was like earlier on in his career. I think the financial success kind of took the edge of his competitive spirit and he's just happy to be around for his fans.

Makes me appreciate Flash and Jaedong even more. Those guys were set awhile back but whenever they play they're still eager to destroy their opponents. Bisu and Rain give me the opposite vibes.


Yeah, well said. Bisu looks asleep in most of his games these days. It's like super safe/textbook play, no teeth. And these early carrier builds in PvT are making me cringe a lil.
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