p looking too strong this season and
jaedong needs to improve his zvp.
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
p looking too strong this season and jaedong needs to improve his zvp. | ||
triangle
United States3803 Posts
His odds aren't great, but I'd say he has a chance. | ||
IaniAniaN
Canada555 Posts
EDIT: whoops I'm retarded, we're talking about OSL here. Well, in that case I'm giving Jaedong even less of a chance because I don't see Bisu or Stork getting anyone they can't handle. | ||
s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On October 13 2007 07:26 MYM.Testie wrote: I'm not confident his ZvT is the best right now, and want to see how well he does on hard maps for zerg vs top terrans who are practicing vs zerg for a week or more straight. This is one of those times where the statistics are a bit too early despite being really good for him. Obviously if he wins this league i'll definitely change my stance. I am just doubtful he could be far in the lead of ZvT when there's so many good zergs, and that Savior is probably still top but has had to play on some rougher maps. Quite sensible thing to say. | ||
samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On November 07 2007 07:57 bumatlarge wrote: Ugh, he lost to Stork... and then proceeded to lose to a terran(Sheis) after? Jaedong! Dont worry ur still me hero :D Sheis sir is 7-0 against zerg you cannot knock his tvz play | ||
ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On November 07 2007 07:57 bumatlarge wrote: Ugh, he lost to Stork... and then proceeded to lose to a terran(Sheis) after? Jaedong! Dont worry ur still me hero :D It's alright, he obviously threw those games for *insert reason here* | ||
.dragoon
United States749 Posts
Savior dropped a game to bifrost on desertfox, I remember that stinker as clear as day. Towards Shin3 Savior said his games were becoming increasingly tougher. Well of course, he's been owning since UZOO in 05, he's been THE GUY for whom everyone trained to win against. Jaedong's zvt is rock solid, his zvz is immaculate, but his zvp is morbid. He's not gonna win a starleague without a ton of luck like what happened to Casy or Gorush, especially now in this era. God I wouldn't want him to be another Casy, big ZvT/Mirror MUs, with vP so shit the quickest way to eliminate him from a starleague is just to drop a P into his group. | ||
Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On November 07 2007 11:02 .dragoon wrote: People are referring too much to TLPD for their arguments (HotBid anyone?). Savior dropped a game to bifrost on desertfox, I remember that stinker as clear as day. Towards Shin3 Savior said his games were becoming increasingly tougher. Well of course, he's been owning since UZOO in 05, he's been THE GUY for whom everyone trained to win against. Jaedong's zvt is rock solid, his zvz is immaculate, but his zvp is morbid. He's not gonna win a starleague without a ton of luck like what happened to Casy or Gorush, especially now in this era. Keep in mind that if Frozean loses to Rock on Thursday, then Jaedong won't face any Protoss players unless: A) Stork somehow overcomes Savior. B) He meets Bisu in the finals. | ||
.dragoon
United States749 Posts
Can you imagine the anti-climax that is Dragon Bisu >>>>>>>3:0>>>>>>> Puppy Jaedong? He won't be able to walk straight or sit down for weeks. I love the newschool players of Upmagic/Jaedong/Free, I think they're fun to watch and want them to succeed. However you just can't have a weakness as evident as one whole MU and think you'll walk away unscathed by opinion. | ||
TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
On November 07 2007 11:17 .dragoon wrote: Meeting Bisu in the finals is EXACTLY what I'm worried about. Can you imagine the anti-climax that is Dragon Bisu >>>>>>>3:0>>>>>>> Puppy Jaedong? He won't be able to walk straight or sit down for weeks. I love the newschool players of Upmagic/Jaedong/Free, I think they're fun to watch and want them to succeed. However you just can't have a weakness as evident as one whole MU and think you'll walk away unscathed by opinion. No man, it's called protoss dodging although Jaedong has not achieved mastery of this crucial skill. | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 07 2007 11:02 .dragoon wrote: Jaedong's zvt is rock solid, his zvz is immaculate, but his zvp is morbid. He's not gonna win a starleague without a ton of luck like what happened to Casy or Gorush, especially now in this era. gorush doesnt belong on that list, his zvp is bad now but when he won his msl and got 3rd in osl he was insanely good in all 3 matchups. | ||
.dragoon
United States749 Posts
And I guess it's just Casy then. But it's a stretch to say that his ZvP was good with your 2 examples since he didn't play a P once in those 2 leagues and ZvP in 2004 was exceedingly easy. | ||
Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On November 07 2007 11:37 .dragoon wrote: Dodging is for group stage, you can't dodge a starleague final. And I guess it's just Casy then. Jaedong can totally dodge Bisu in the OSL final: He can pray that Shudder pulls a successful cheese on Bluestorm He can hope that someone can luck a few wins vs him in the RO8. He can slip horse-tranquilizer into Bisu's breakfast of rum and beef jerky prior to the RO4. Then, if that doesn't work, he pretty much runs out of options and must submit to biting down on a cyanide pill rather than lose 3-0 to Bisu. | ||
blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
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ScvRushGGNoRe
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On November 07 2007 12:03 blagoonga123 wrote: His zvp isn't TOO bad. it's just not as good. no dude, its pretty bad the only zerg playing worse against protoss right now is gorush | ||
ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
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Deleted User 31060
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If both meet in the finals, though, Jaedong should take the cyanide pill | ||
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