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i.play.ZERG
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada276 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-07 05:01:34
November 07 2007 05:01 GMT
#101
I doubt Jaedong can take Hwasin or Iris
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
November 07 2007 05:11 GMT
#102
Jaedong v Bisu wouldn't be much of a fight - But I'd pay to see a bo5 between Jaedong and Hwasin. That would be something.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
November 07 2007 05:31 GMT
#103
On November 07 2007 14:01 i.play.ZERG wrote:
I doubt Jaedong can take Hwasin or Iris


i really think Jaedong would stomp iris, but HwaSin would be a great match. two players just monsters at what they do
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
ScvRushGGNoRe
Profile Joined November 2007
13 Posts
November 07 2007 06:01 GMT
#104
Iris' TvZ is not that horrible but it pales in comparison to his TvT.
davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
November 07 2007 06:38 GMT
#105
I actually haven't gotten the chance to see too many Jaedong games. The ones I have seen of him were just so-so; I'm surprised his stats are that insanely high.
There's crashing?
ScvRushGGNoRe
Profile Joined November 2007
13 Posts
November 07 2007 07:00 GMT
#106
Yeah his ZvZ seems to be exceptionally good as he can take on people like Savior on an equal basis.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-07 10:40:00
November 07 2007 09:21 GMT
#107
The only terran i think currently that has a chance is Hwasin because of his timing 50/50 and momentum. But if hwasin is unlucky he might not qualify for next round.
And Iris might have a slight chance. 40-60ish. He comes with nice builds and has nice macro and hes pretty agressive.
Wait flash might have a chance. His game vs Jaedong on python i remember.
Statisticwise
Only 3 terrans have a winning record vs jaedong currently
Casy who is 3-0 vs Jaedong
Flash who is 1-0
And Sheis who is 2-0 which ended jaedong's 13 zvt win streak Holy shit and hes 7-0 Damn hes like midas's tvp but with tvz
Iris is untested vs jaedong
Out of all of them only flash is in osl

Jaedong has a high chance to win this osl as long as he doesnt meet bisu.
On November 07 2007 11:37 .dragoon wrote:
Dodging is for group stage, you can't dodge a starleague final.

And I guess it's just Casy then. But it's a stretch to say that his ZvP was good with your 2 examples since he didn't play a P once in those 2 leagues and ZvP in 2004 was exceedingly easy.

In gorush yrtgk 2005 prime the only toss he lost too was ra. He went like 13 televised wins. His zvp was like 15-2 than. He was considred the best zvp and zvz at that time. And his zvt was really good too going 4-2 vs a in shape nada in bo7. Im pretty sure even if he met tosses he would have won.

Luck is someone like silver with his zvp hydra rush. Or chojja with his zvz.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-07 10:24:43
November 07 2007 10:20 GMT
#108
On November 07 2007 18:21 Ilikestarcraft wrote:


Luck is someone like silver with his zvp hydra rush. Or chojja with his zvz.


Why do you think that chojja has luck with his zvz?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-07 10:27:26
November 07 2007 10:24 GMT
#109
Because he would have lost that msl if it wasnt for his zvz. If savior lost to oov i am 99% sure chojja would have lost to oov. But i wouldn't consider it as lucky as silver or casy. Cause chojja's other mus arent that bad. Compared to silver's zvt and casy's tvp.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
November 07 2007 10:27 GMT
#110
Oh I see, I agree with you. He had luck with his matchups,no doubt about it. I thought you were speaking about his gameplay. I`ve always thought that chojja has the best zvz .
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
November 07 2007 13:51 GMT
#111
On November 07 2007 14:11 mensrea wrote:
Jaedong v Bisu wouldn't be much of a fight - But I'd pay to see a bo5 between Jaedong and Hwasin. That would be something.


Seconded for truth.

Too bad Jaedong's ZvP is so mediocre
returns upon momentous occasions.
Schiller
Profile Joined March 2006
Germany308 Posts
November 07 2007 15:33 GMT
#112
maybe jaedong will be the zerg who shows how to kill Bisu like Bisu did it to savior.... we will see
diehilde1
Profile Joined September 2006
Germany522 Posts
November 07 2007 17:08 GMT
#113
On November 08 2007 00:33 Schiller wrote:
maybe jaedong will be the zerg who shows how to kill Bisu like Bisu did it to savior.... we will see

he cant even beat stork... no way hed have a chance against bisu
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
November 07 2007 17:09 GMT
#114
I like JD, though.
aka. Samael
ConceptX
Profile Joined December 2007
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 02:43:39
December 28 2007 02:22 GMT
#115
reading this post in light of the recent outcome of the EVER OSL finals is incredibly interesting. i'm amazed at the quality of analysis from TL.net forum posters. after searching this forum, i think the complete list of "Royal Roaders" follows:
+ Show Spoiler +
GARIMTO - 2000 Freechal Open
BoxeR - 2001 Hanbitsoft
NaDa - 2003 Panasonic
July - 2004 Gillete
Anytime - 2005 So1
sAviOr - 2007 3rd ShinHan
Jaedong - 2007 EVER


is there a title for players who win the MSL upon their first entry? i think that list would be:
+ Show Spoiler +
BoxeR - 2002 KPGA 1st Tour
NaDa - 2002 KPGA 2nd Tour
ilovoov - 2003 TriGem
Bisu - 2006 GOMTV S1
Mind - 2007 GOMTV S3


obviously I am new to TL.net. if this is an unnecessary use of the spoiler tag, please let me know.
*OSL list updated - thanks
*MSL list updated - thanks again!
www.youtube.com/user/conceptxsc
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7231 Posts
December 28 2007 02:28 GMT
#116
Didn't Savior walk the royal road too?
日本語が分かりますか
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
December 28 2007 02:29 GMT
#117
savior royal road in osl i think
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 02:41:37
December 28 2007 02:40 GMT
#118
im pretty sure savior didn't win the msl on his first try lemme check

edit: ya he lost to themarine in Spris MSL
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 28 2007 03:01 GMT
#119
Royal Road is just an OSL thing. MSL is just first timers. :x
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 10:32:16
December 28 2007 10:32 GMT
#120
If we're counting Freechal for Garimto, shouldn't Freemura get an automatic Royal Road title for taking '99 Progamer Korea Open? :p
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