Do note tossgirl was fine with all these and her relationship with shinee was very good until recently where he stepped out of line and was removed from Moochin university staff. Thats another can of worms. Posted why on my community post tho.
On other note, why Shinee is banned from all afreeca events:
1st he qualified for ASL but he said it won't be enough to pay for his transportation anyway so he forfeited right after final qualification even though he qualified.
2nd incident- he went to ro16 on Afreeca minor league but he skipped it for Chinese tournament instead (and won it)
3rd incident- he said he was going to troll ACS (lower tier ASL that gives ASL group stage seed if won) by participating in all 4 qualifiers and getting no1 and then throw game vs easy opponent and give seed to them. This happened right after Sky matchfixing incident and when it was super sensitive. The final straw
On November 14 2022 05:56 Puosu wrote: never heard progamers sound so incel
Shinee is the main offender really. Other pros all worked with Tossgirl before in pro days and she's basically same as them and equal/respected in their eyes.
the whole aggressive coaching is content in itself. Threading on glass and not being harsh would be way worse tbh. If you note, the progamers put tossgirl on progamer standards
Some foul language when you're hanging out with your guy friends can be quite entertaining. Doing it when women are around always feels off imo, also peer pressuring her into saying ssibal... Meh. This is not how I would want to attract new players and sponsors to the game.
Ignoring all the foul language I think ggaemo seems like a pretty good coach and some true things were said. Tossgirl sort of implements what's meta through mechanics, but she hardly ever improved her understanding of the game. There is a reason she never became a relevant progamer, but instead just stayed the best (only) female BW player that later became STX Soul's figurehead. Btw that (show)match vs Reach near the end of the golden days, Reach 100% let her win :/
Some caveat: foreign viewers may feel a bit off, especially when watching via translation, and see this like four guys berating a girl, but in reality this is similar to friends banter, no more. Imagine a group of close friends playing and we'd be calling each other stupid all the time but everyone's laughing.
Also there's the element of putting on a show for the viewers and creating drama (and profiting from that). It's even worse when they coach the female BJs from Afreeca. In a way it's similar to how Artosis makes his stream so popular - but in this case we have collaboration from both sides.
This university thing is really peak entertainment BW content. Shame foreign viewers can't enjoy it much.
On November 14 2022 18:48 TMNT wrote: Some caveat: foreign viewers may feel a bit off, especially when watching via translation, and see this like four guys berating a girl, but in reality this is similar to friends banter, no more. Imagine a group of close friends playing and we'd be calling each other stupid all the time but everyone's laughing.
Also there's the element of putting on a show for the viewers and creating drama (and profiting from that). It's even worse when they coach the female BJs from Afreeca. In a way it's similar to how Artosis makes his stream so popular - but in this case we have collaboration from both sides.
This university thing is really peak entertainment BW content. Shame foreign viewers can't enjoy it much.
culture doesn't exactly translate well but shinees comments are pretty out there even with all that (altho its all consensual both sides)
maybe i should have put that clip where they clarify to viewers its all fine and she's willing participant. Next one maybe but i only saw 2-3 good games
Wow op this thread is actually shit talking garbage . Take an L for jumping the gun and painting a narrative. Btw they just had a collab stream today and all is well.
On November 19 2022 18:18 staatbauhaus wrote: Wow op this thread is actually shit talking garbage . Take an L for jumping the gun and painting a narrative. Btw they just had a collab stream today and all is well.
Lol that was their make up stream where shinee of all people apologized and said he would do better going forward. Seems like you know korean and If you know korean and followed scene youd know shinee-tossgirl mess got him removed in first place. Now they made up and they are cool again but that mess was pretty big when it happened
And afreeca ban stuff was already done in first place. Wheres the jumping gun?
Shinees comment style has always been little out there in tone (and thats what people watch him for in first place a lot of times, admittedly including me). Tossgirl-shinee had good chemistry going and It was disheartening when he went too far and posted that 물소 comment
On November 19 2022 18:18 staatbauhaus wrote: Wow op this thread is actually shit talking garbage . Take an L for jumping the gun and painting a narrative. Btw they just had a collab stream today and all is well.
Lol that was their make up stream where shinee of all people apologized and said he would do better going forward. Seems like you know korean and If you know korean and followed scene youd know shinee-tossgirl mess got him removed in first place. Now they made up and they are cool again but that mess was pretty big when it happened
And afreeca ban stuff was already done in first place. Wheres the jumping gun?
Shinees comment style has always been little out there in tone and thats what people watch him for in first place a lot of times (admittedly including me). It was disheartening when he went too far and posted that 물소 comment
Honestly he's not as bad as the community makes him out to be. He's super tame compared to people like Speed, Kai Cenat, Destiny, Hasan, Tyler1 etc. For some reason people have double standards on Koreans and expect them to be "mannered".
Take a step back and really think about what he's done vs what the Korean community is flaming him for. It's the epitome of white knighting for a female.
Edit: While these two have apologized and squashed their beef, you still have the community extra MAD saying she should have never forgiven him and never meet up again. Like wtf the community is full of simps.
On November 19 2022 18:18 staatbauhaus wrote: Wow op this thread is actually shit talking garbage . Take an L for jumping the gun and painting a narrative. Btw they just had a collab stream today and all is well.
Lol that was their make up stream where shinee of all people apologized and said he would do better going forward. Seems like you know korean and If you know korean and followed scene youd know shinee-tossgirl mess got him removed in first place. Now they made up and they are cool again but that mess was pretty big when it happened
And afreeca ban stuff was already done in first place. Wheres the jumping gun?
Shinees comment style has always been little out there in tone and thats what people watch him for in first place a lot of times (admittedly including me). It was disheartening when he went too far and posted that 물소 comment
Honestly he's not as bad as the community makes him out to be. He's super tame compared to people like Speed, Kai Cenat, Destiny, Hasan, Tyler1 etc. For some reason people have double standards on Koreans and expect them to be "mannered".
Take a step back and really think about what he's done vs what the Korean community is flaming him for. It's the epitome of white knighting for a female.
I feel like the whole start of fight wasnt anything big and was on course of what they normally were doing; talking little shit to each other. But the follow up had me going ???
You do get shinees pov in stream yesterday/today but when he spazzed out over 물소 and conspiracy, it was defo over line man.
And if you read way i commented in thread, it was more on tone when someone else on thread commented "wow everyone sound so abrasive" which I answered with it was mostly shinee there on tone wise in the video itself. I dont know where you got the whole me talking shit from. People take their own conclusions
On November 19 2022 18:18 staatbauhaus wrote: Wow op this thread is actually shit talking garbage . Take an L for jumping the gun and painting a narrative. Btw they just had a collab stream today and all is well.
Lol that was their make up stream where shinee of all people apologized and said he would do better going forward. Seems like you know korean and If you know korean and followed scene youd know shinee-tossgirl mess got him removed in first place. Now they made up and they are cool again but that mess was pretty big when it happened
And afreeca ban stuff was already done in first place. Wheres the jumping gun?
Shinees comment style has always been little out there in tone and thats what people watch him for in first place a lot of times (admittedly including me). It was disheartening when he went too far and posted that 물소 comment
Honestly he's not as bad as the community makes him out to be. He's super tame compared to people like Speed, Kai Cenat, Destiny, Hasan, Tyler1 etc. For some reason people have double standards on Koreans and expect them to be "mannered".
Take a step back and really think about what he's done vs what the Korean community is flaming him for. It's the epitome of white knighting for a female.
I feel like the whole start of fight wasnt anything big and was on course of what they normally were doing; talking little shit to each other. But the follow up had me going ???
You do get shinees pov in stream yesterday/today but when he spazzed out over 물소 and conspiracy, it was defo over line man.
And if you read way i commented in thread, it was more on tone when someone else on thread commented wow everyone sound so abrasive. I dont know where you got the whole me talking shit from. People take their own conclusions
Whoops must have been too ambiguous. I didn't mean you were mad nor do I think you were shit talking. I meant the 물소틀딱충들 are mad in the Korean forums. Again not you but the Korean community.
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