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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
October 01 2007 19:36 GMT
#41
I'm suprised Casy's still in it, considering he hasnt played in so long.

The KeSPEA and TLPD ranks are alot different, midas is 27 on the official, 12 on the tl, wow sea and flash are like the youngest but they're doing great.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 01 2007 19:43 GMT
#42
Does the KeSPA ranking even matter?
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-01 20:16:38
October 01 2007 20:16 GMT
#43
I know this might seem kind of off to the side, but this rank system is somewhat like other point systems (mostly nascar, because thats where i though of this comparison). Say you have Savior, and Bisu, and even Nada, who dominate the scene, they are winning tournies, bisu wins msl, GGplay wins osl, Samsung Khan won the Proleague final, with Stork MVP as well.

But, since Bisu won the MSL, Stork was 2nd, and Stork still placed 3rd in the OSL. Savior and Bisu may be big names for being dominate, but what happens when they aren't in first place? Savior has lost his first 2 proleague games, didnt make it out of the Ro8 in the OSL or Ro4 in the MSL, and has only placed well in WCG (he is going, but hes 3rd, while Stork is 2nd). Bisu won the MSL, but was knocked out of the OSL by Flash, and his recent lack of play in the proleague (hes played 1 proleague game compared to Savior's 3, and Storks 2). He also has played a few less games than Stork due to the fact that he didnt make it far into WCG korea (losing to Light), while stork made it to the finals.

So, while Savior and Bisu, are winning, big names, have won big names, they dont seem to be on that constant stream of winning that they were when they did win those titles (Savior is the most noticable).

We will say from the end of the Daum OSL to now:
Stork: 12-6
Bisu: 9-6
Savior: 13-7

So what am i getting at? Well in Nascar a while ago, some guy who i can't remember placed 2nd and 3rd for like 10 races straight, and was #1 in the points, even though he never won a single race. Thats what Stork is doing, he is placing well (2nd and 3rd) in most of the recent events (MSL, OSL, Proleague Finals (1st place team), and WCG Korea) even though he himself has not won a major league.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-01 20:16:21
October 01 2007 20:16 GMT
#44
On October 02 2007 04:43 Jyvblamo wrote:
Does the KeSPA ranking even matter?

Nope. But they generate discussion.
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MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
October 01 2007 20:19 GMT
#45
BISU AND STORK :D
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
October 01 2007 20:23 GMT
#46
On October 02 2007 01:42 iamke55 wrote:
I thought ChoJJa was the worst #1 ever, but this eclipses that by far.


Die ChoJJa-hater!
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 01 2007 20:29 GMT
#47
On October 02 2007 05:16 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2007 04:43 Jyvblamo wrote:
Does the KeSPA ranking even matter?

Nope. But they generate discussion.


Ah, then it's obsolete for us because Power Ranking is way more entertaining. :3
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-01 20:30:51
October 01 2007 20:30 GMT
#48
Wait... why do you think Kespa has changed from a 1-year to a 3-month deal? It looks like they still consider the entire last calandar year in rankings.

Casy's record in the last three months is 0-2. I doubt that being 0-2 would ever make a player in the top 30, unless there were only 30 existing players. Also, Savior and Nada losing the most points would make sense if the rankings lasted a year because August was the month last year when they were tearing up the beginning stages of their respective starleagues that they would eventually win. Arguably no player was doing better than either of those two at the time.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
October 01 2007 20:36 GMT
#49
I think games from the past 3 months or so are just weighted much more heavily than older ones.

On October 02 2007 05:29 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2007 05:16 SonuvBob wrote:
On October 02 2007 04:43 Jyvblamo wrote:
Does the KeSPA ranking even matter?

Nope. But they generate discussion.


Ah, then it's obsolete for us because Power Ranking is way more entertaining. :3

Yep! This is just filler til PR shows up.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 01 2007 21:23 GMT
#50
lol

stork will be #1 until the current leagues end, because Bisu will find himself in the finals of at least one of em, and Stork probably won't. Everyone lost points this month due to the lack of games, maybe Bisu's first MSL win dropped off?
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
October 01 2007 21:33 GMT
#51
On October 02 2007 04:01 IdrA wrote:
there is, bisu.
arguably savior too.


So the ranking is pretty good then?


The point of these rankings is exactly that they aren't exactly the same as tournament winner or world champion.

Now while I would probably prefer a slightly different ranking system I don't understand why Stork is 'no.1 unworthy'. Yeah, he has never won a mayor league. But this ranking isn't about winning leagues per se. It's about winning matches and gathering point. Stork is no.1 at that because of his great Starcraft. Savior was no.1 for a very long time. And Bisu, he has basically the same score as Stork. They are basically sharing no.1. It's a ranking system.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-01 22:11:33
October 01 2007 22:10 GMT
#52
On October 02 2007 06:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
lol

stork will be #1 until the current leagues end, because Bisu will find himself in the finals of at least one of em, and Stork probably won't. Everyone lost points this month due to the lack of games, maybe Bisu's first MSL win dropped off?

Yeah, it must be 6 months then. That'd make September's rankings cover March through August (Bisu won on March 3rd), so these would be April through September.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 01 2007 22:17 GMT
#53
On October 02 2007 06:33 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2007 04:01 IdrA wrote:
there is, bisu.
arguably savior too.


So the ranking is pretty good then?


The point of these rankings is exactly that they aren't exactly the same as tournament winner or world champion.

Now while I would probably prefer a slightly different ranking system I don't understand why Stork is 'no.1 unworthy'. Yeah, he has never won a mayor league. But this ranking isn't about winning leagues per se. It's about winning matches and gathering point. Stork is no.1 at that because of his great Starcraft. Savior was no.1 for a very long time. And Bisu, he has basically the same score as Stork. They are basically sharing no.1. It's a ranking system.

all depends on what you want out of the ranking, and since everyone wants different things there will never be a ranking that satisfies everyone.

the main problem people have is that savior and bisu have both won multiple starleagues fairly recently, and have still been performing well overall, and on the whole are better, more well rounded players than stork, but stork is in first anyway.
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Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
October 01 2007 22:38 GMT
#54
wtf how
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 01 2007 22:53 GMT
#55
This is definitely a surprise. Kespa shoulda taken a month off, like the PR!
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
October 01 2007 23:06 GMT
#56
hey did bisu only hold the kespa ranking only a month?
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 01 2007 23:09 GMT
#57
Yes, he did.
But he'll get it back
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6124 Posts
October 01 2007 23:11 GMT
#58
here is NO WAY stork is better than bisu or savior

its because of bs wcg qualifiers

i'm happy a protoss is no.1 but stork is a joke
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-WGT-Stars-
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States888 Posts
October 01 2007 23:14 GMT
#59
as long as theres a toss in #1 im happy
And I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad, The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had.
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
October 01 2007 23:52 GMT
#60
hey does the kespa ranking start all over with the points? cuz i checked how long boxer got it and he had 1500 points then later the points like started all over.. when is it going to start all over for this kespa?
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