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Why Fantasy Didn't Return to StarCraft
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jinjin5000
United States1419 Posts
part2 I didn't sub this! Snow did! | ||
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Soulforged
Latvia918 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1419 Posts
a lot of it isn't done by me, but content itself is quality https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdqi0o4auh2HWTaLfI33PCPwiD6yk02N6 | ||
GTR
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zimp
Hungary951 Posts
On November 12 2021 05:40 GTR wrote: what do they mean by "1 day 3 games"? im guessing it revolves around being a streamer playing both bw and sc2? that was his ingame ID when he played in 2017. don't know the meaning tho. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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CHEONSOYUN
518 Posts
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outscar
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On November 12 2021 09:43 outscar wrote: Thx for translation but I didn't really like FanTaSy's avoiding unclear answers but I lost it completely when he said he could beat Larva - a player who never abandoned BW for SC2 and eventually became an ASL champion. Fuck off Fanta, you were off for 10 years and you think you can beat pros who are post KeSPA pros that grind thousand games and gave everything? I didn't miss you. Fantasy makes a joke about a former teammate and good friend, and some random person gets massively escalated. Gotta love the internet. | ||
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ggsimida
1148 Posts
On November 12 2021 09:43 outscar wrote: Thx for translation but I didn't really like FanTaSy's avoiding unclear answers but I lost it completely when he said he could beat Larva - a player who never abandoned BW for SC2 and eventually became an ASL champion. Fuck off Fanta, you were off for 10 years and you think you can beat pros who are post KeSPA pros that grind thousand games and gave everything? I didn't miss you. i also respect what larva has finally achieved and i don't think you need to be offended by a obviously tongue-in-cheek comment | ||
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BonitiilloO
Dominican Republic614 Posts
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sntct
100 Posts
On November 12 2021 05:51 zimp wrote: i miss his tvp so much! that was his ingame ID when he played in 2017. don't know the meaning tho. It could be assumed its because he played 3 games of BW per day during that period. | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
We miss you Fantasy, but it sounds like you're doing well :-) | ||
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Cold-Blood
United States200 Posts
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oxKnu
1179 Posts
This type of situation does happen a lot I think, after all most people that are into games are also into trying out new titles. But seems like the type of guy (judging from his track record in BW as well) that is pretty high IQ and those people never really settle for a long time doing the same thing. | ||
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tankgirl
Canada404 Posts
ill never forget this game | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
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CHEONSOYUN
518 Posts
he says multiple times in the video that he does, still plays the game, and heavily considered returning. what he really doesn't care for is being a streamer rather than a pro-gamer (which he's very proud of), and having to please an audience rather than perform at a high level. kinda easy to see why when people clearly haven't bothered to pay attention | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25054 Posts
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oxKnu
1179 Posts
On November 13 2021 00:46 CHEONSOYUN wrote: not really sure where people are getting this notion that fantasy dislikes or doesn't care about bw. he says multiple times in the video that he does, still plays the game, and heavily considered returning. what he really doesn't care for is being a streamer rather than a pro-gamer (which he's very proud of), and having to please an audience rather than perform at a high level. kinda easy to see why when people clearly haven't bothered to pay attention Right, that's why he streamed SC2 exclusively for 1.5 years after coming back from army. Because he hates streaming and only loves the 3 tournaments Blizzard is paying Afreeca to host every year. | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
518 Posts
is it so unbelievable to take fantasy at his word when he says he still cares? don’t be so bitter | ||
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oxKnu
1179 Posts
The situation is pretty clear: He wanted to stream SC2 full-time and participate in tournaments and both of those endeavors were not sustainable enough so he had to switch to a real job. That's the gist of it. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria3971 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4182 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1419 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLJzP5qfSbE | ||
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zimp
Hungary951 Posts
https://www.mediafire.com/file/btwxdssf0g6jwes/Fantasy 2017.rar/file - including a game against Bonyth - including sick turn-arounds - including Fantasy GG timing | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25054 Posts
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zimp
Hungary951 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/fh9oKYV.gif) | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4182 Posts
On November 13 2021 12:22 zimp wrote: cute :3 | ||
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art_of_turtle
United States1183 Posts
On November 12 2021 09:43 outscar wrote: Thx for translation but I didn't really like FanTaSy's avoiding unclear answers but I lost it completely when he said he could beat Larva - a player who never abandoned BW for SC2 and eventually became an ASL champion. Fuck off Fanta, you were off for 10 years and you think you can beat pros who are post KeSPA pros that grind thousand games and gave everything? I didn't miss you. Larva has a beautiful wife, a beautiful child, and an ASL Championship. Fantasy has crying complex. I'm sure larva doesn't need to be defended. But thanks for standing up for the champ | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25054 Posts
On November 15 2021 10:23 art_of_turtle wrote: Larva has a beautiful wife, a beautiful child, and an ASL Championship. Fantasy has crying complex. I'm sure larva doesn't need to be defended. But thanks for standing up for the champ How do you get Fantasy having a ‘crying complex’ from that? Guy was a great BW player, wanted to stretch himself into a new game in SC2, is enjoying what he’s doing now, and doesn’t want to be a BJ for the same reasons I’d never want to be a BJ (if I had the skills) Seems pretty happy with his lot, I don’t think one, probably jokey comment makes out that he’s some moaner who thinks he’d be smacking people around in BW and is jealous of the money they’re making or whatever, given everything else he said | ||
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Gescom
Canada3370 Posts
On November 13 2021 03:28 M3t4PhYzX wrote: I'll never, ever forget the 2011 OSL finals between him and JangBi.. man that was an awesome series. Amen | ||
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Malinor
Germany4721 Posts
In regard to SC2, BW, being a Streamer and whatever path he choose, I must assume economic pressure plays a major role how to continue. Most of them played games all their lives, so what do you do after military service is over and need to make a living. I assume some of them simply are trapped in a way. Kind of a tangent, but I am always thankful when my favorite BW players managed to move on and are not stuck in this 'retirement'-scene forever. | ||
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JoinTheRain
Bulgaria408 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
Years later I really admire his style and innovations. He was seriously fun to watch. And talented. GG | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 15 2021 10:23 art_of_turtle wrote: Larva has a beautiful wife, a beautiful child, and an ASL Championship. Fantasy has crying complex. I'm sure larva doesn't need to be defended. But thanks for standing up for the champ Yeah I'd really love for Fantasy to return and prove himself but I was quite irritated at that statement. Larva of all people? Maybe Fantasy though that Larva is still the same dishwasher he was. Maybe Fantasy didn't get the memo that Larva is now an ASL champion? Of all the zergs to name, he had to pick the previous champion hahahaha. That said, I'd be very impressed if he is able to prove his point. On November 13 2021 02:19 Magic Powers wrote: Lets be real: other people know better what goes on in Fantasy's head than he does himself. He can't possibly understand his own motivations and decisions all too well. So lets not put too much weight on his words, we should instead make up our own version of him in our heads. hahahahahahahhaha | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On November 18 2021 16:23 JieXian wrote: Yeah I'd really love for Fantasy to return and prove himself but I was quite irritated at that statement. Larva of all people? Maybe Fantasy though that Larva is still the same dishwasher he was. Maybe Fantasy didn't get the memo that Larva is now an ASL champion? Of all the zergs to name, he had to pick the previous champion hahahaha. That said, I'd be very impressed if he is able to prove his point. hahahahahahahhaha Here’s a crazy thought. Maybe Fantasy knows Larva is an ASL champion (really crazy thought, I know). Maybe Fantasy is happy for Larva, his friend and former teammate. Maybe Fantasy made that joke as a way of playfully paying respect to Larva, someone who used to be way worse than Fantasy, but has now climbed all the way to the top. Making fun of a B-teamer you’re clearly better than is low class. But making fun of someone who used to be worse than you, but is now an equal, is a way of showing respect. A way of showing endearment, and like how a sign of genuine friendship between people is that they can poke fun at each other. Of course I could be wrong. We’re all just speculating on what someone meant. Through the lens of a *translation* no less. But if you’re going to speculate, how about assuming positive intent instead of jumping to an interpretation that you find “irritating”? Especially when, by all accounts, Fantasy has always been a classy, thoughtful person. | ||
Poopi
France12790 Posts
On November 13 2021 00:46 CHEONSOYUN wrote: not really sure where people are getting this notion that fantasy dislikes or doesn't care about bw. he says multiple times in the video that he does, still plays the game, and heavily considered returning. what he really doesn't care for is being a streamer rather than a pro-gamer (which he's very proud of), and having to please an audience rather than perform at a high level. kinda easy to see why when people clearly haven't bothered to pay attention Legacy over money, that's the mindset of a champion | ||
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ajmbek
Italy460 Posts
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art_of_turtle
United States1183 Posts
On November 15 2021 10:34 WombaT wrote: How do you get Fantasy having a ‘crying complex’ from that? Guy was a great BW player, wanted to stretch himself into a new game in SC2, is enjoying what he’s doing now, and doesn’t want to be a BJ for the same reasons I’d never want to be a BJ (if I had the skills) Seems pretty happy with his lot, I don’t think one, probably jokey comment makes out that he’s some moaner who thinks he’d be smacking people around in BW and is jealous of the money they’re making or whatever, given everything else he said I mean we do have a thread dedicated to the times he chose not to leave the game after he had lost. https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/195375-fantasys-gg-timing#1 | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On November 18 2021 16:23 JieXian wrote: Yeah I'd really love for Fantasy to return and prove himself but I was quite irritated at that statement. Larva of all people? Maybe Fantasy though that Larva is still the same dishwasher he was. Maybe Fantasy didn't get the memo that Larva is now an ASL champion? Of all the zergs to name, he had to pick the previous champion hahahaha. That said, I'd be very impressed if he is able to prove his point. I could be wrong on this, but I think it's an inside joke since Larva was a B teamer during his days as SKT T1 and he's aware of, and poking fun at this. I can understand why someone would feel irritated after hearing this statement, but all things considered about Fantasy, I highly doubt he was making this statement except as a fun joke against a former teammate (too bad no one seems to know if they were ever close). Now, whether Larva still enjoys those kinds of jokes after he's managed to make something of himself in BW is a different matter entirely. | ||
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zimp
Hungary951 Posts
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james55
2 Posts
On November 12 2021 04:40 jinjin5000 wrote: part1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJK0GlrGccM part2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLJzP5qfSbE I didn't sub this! Snow did! Thanks for the translation. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
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chozen86
United States60 Posts
On November 12 2021 13:21 pebble444 wrote: Ah yes, the infamous “fantasy gg timing” Underrated post :D | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
On November 12 2021 09:43 outscar wrote: Thx for translation but I didn't really like FanTaSy's avoiding unclear answers but I lost it completely when he said he could beat Larva - a player who never abandoned BW for SC2 and eventually became an ASL champion. Fuck off Fanta, you were off for 10 years and you think you can beat pros who are post KeSPA pros that grind thousand games and gave everything? I didn't miss you. "Well, this isn't entirely serious..." | ||
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