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Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-06 11:04:02
October 06 2021 11:00 GMT
#1
When users play ladder, they encounter various bugs.
Take a look at the ladder rankings now. Players who use bugs are at the top.

As far as I know Brood War still makes a lot of money, at least in Korea.
Not because of the remastered price.

As you all know, Korea has a well-developed PC room culture.

At least in Korea, Brood War is still ranked 5th - 7th in the PC room game usage rankings.

After 3,000 hours of playing a Blizzard game on a PC room, the operator of the PC room has to pay a royalty of 671,000 won to Blizzard.
(Approximately $570)

An important point in my words is that Brood War always ranks 5th - 7th in the PC room game usage rankings.
All game companies care a lot about the ranking of PC room game usage, and the standard for evaluating games as successful cases is
This is a game called "Hangame Low Badugi"
The ranking of "Hangame Low Badugi" is on average 20th, but if it maintains an average of 20th place, it is evaluated as a successful case.

However, for Blizzard, it would be surprising to see that a 20-year-old game consistently ranks 5th - 7th in the Korean PC room game usage rankings.

Brood War consistently maintained the top usage rankings and paid Blizzard a very nice royalty.
Moreover, those who play ranked games also bought the remaster, which must have brought Blizzard a lot of money.

Mike Morhaime is very smart.
In the past, Brood War users in Korea mostly used pirated versions, and did not pay royalties to Blizzard using a free-server called 'fish server'.
So, Blizzard developed the remaster, and by including Brood War in the Blizzard app program, they would have strategized to normally receive royalties in the PC room.

Mike Morhaime is very smart.
In the past, domestic Brood War users mostly used pirated versions, and did not pay royalties to Blizzard using a free server called 'fish server'.
So, if Blizzard developed the remaster and included Brood Wars in the Blizzard app program, they would normally have a strategy of receiving royalties in the PC room.

But what about Blizzard's game management?
They weren't interested in running the game, and Blizzard employees were just molesting women.
We are experiencing all kinds of bugs in ranked play.

Why the SCV bug was fixed.
It is said that the Korean PC room owners have complained to Blizzard.
"People don't play Brood War and don't use PC rooms due to SCV bug"

For a while, Blizzard didn't care about the SCV bug, but as soon as PC room owners complained, they hotfixed the SCV bug within a week.

One of the PC room owners close to me told me, "We complained to Blizzard," and the problem was resolved within a week. Is this a coincidence? lol
i don't think so

Of course, I'm not sure if this is true or not. But this makes quite a bit of sense.

In my opinion, they don't seem to care about the opinions of regular users who have purchased the remaster. It seems that only the opinions of people who continuously pay royalties to them like PC room owners are important.

What I want to say is simple. hey Blizzard. If you get paid, work.
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
October 06 2021 11:03 GMT
#2
Also reset the ladder game
I think this is a revolutionary movement of users.
This movement that started on Twitter has finally made the new season of ladder games playable.

I think we should write another Twitter post to fix the bug.
MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
October 06 2021 11:48 GMT
#3
pretty sure the only people left on blizzard at this point are busy making mobile games, or trying to keep Overwatch league from going under.
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
October 06 2021 11:51 GMT
#4
On October 06 2021 20:03 Cruiser0929 wrote:


I think we should write another Twitter post to fix the bug.


Totally true, come on guys!
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
October 06 2021 11:58 GMT
#5
On October 06 2021 20:48 MinixTheNerd wrote:
pretty sure the only people left on blizzard at this point are busy making mobile games, or trying to keep Overwatch league from going under.


If they don't fix bugs while receiving huge royalties in Korea, they should stop receiving royalties lol
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
October 06 2021 12:30 GMT
#6
On October 06 2021 20:58 Cruiser0929 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2021 20:48 MinixTheNerd wrote:
pretty sure the only people left on blizzard at this point are busy making mobile games, or trying to keep Overwatch league from going under.


If they don't fix bugs while receiving huge royalties in Korea, they should stop receiving royalties lol


Unfortunately that's not how IP law works.

They used to have 3 people working on Remastered, 2 of them at the very least have now left Blizzard and the third guy I don't know about. I don't think they have anyone on that team anymore.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9527 Posts
October 06 2021 14:12 GMT
#7
We're on our own.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
sophisticated
Profile Joined October 2021
60 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-06 15:27:06
October 06 2021 15:25 GMT
#8
On October 06 2021 20:00 Cruiser0929 wrote:
As you all know, Korea has a well-developed PC room culture.

It still does? In 2021? How many users?

In my opinion, they don't seem to care about the opinions of regular users who have purchased the remaster. It seems that only the opinions of people who continuously pay royalties to them like PC room owners are important.

That seems like a very optimistic assessment.

On October 06 2021 20:48 MinixTheNerd wrote:
pretty sure the only people left on blizzard at this point are busy making mobile games, or trying to keep Overwatch league from going under.

Hey that's not true, they also spend a lot of time abusing their female employees.
Poibsda
Profile Joined October 2021
1 Post
October 06 2021 15:30 GMT
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opiusax
Profile Joined October 2021
1 Post
October 06 2021 15:43 GMT
#10
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MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
October 06 2021 16:08 GMT
#11
How can Brood war to peak in 2021 from 5-7th rank to top 3 ranks?
Add team play ladder.
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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
October 06 2021 16:12 GMT
#12
On October 07 2021 01:08 MineraIs wrote:
How can Brood war to peak in 2021 from 5-7th rank to top 3 ranks?
Add team play ladder.


Luckily that was already a launch feature.
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1240 Posts
October 06 2021 16:18 GMT
#13
On October 06 2021 20:00 Cruiser0929 wrote:
They weren't interested in running the game, and Blizzard employees were just molesting women.


The way this was phrased had me laughing in tears.

The bottom line is that Blizzard/Activision is a highly capitalistic video game corporation right now. These practices that you outline here are standard fare for your dime-a-dozen enterprise software company in the year of 2021.

"If it doesn't make money, we don't care about it"

I'd also add that Blizzard is also a company that sucks pretty hard at video game making too these days, everybody kind of knows this. This means that their programmers are not top tier in the industry anymore and that will show even in mundane patchwork like fixing buffer overflows or pushing a button to reset maps and run a script over the weekend to archive data.

The only way Broodwar goes forward in any way is if an autonomous team gets handed the keys to the game in South Korea.
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada778 Posts
October 06 2021 17:26 GMT
#14
Don’t expect them to do anything unless they can profit x10 off of the work that they put in. It really is a shame, the community has complained so much for very basic things, the only real solution is for the community to shift to a third party server like shieldbattery but in order for it to thrive the entire population would have to transfer over including the Korean. Although the reality is that the 1v1 matchmaking works, quite well actually. Sometimes we get ranked with someone way above or way below our skill level but that is maybe every 1/5 matches at the most. The bugs will only be fixed if they’re game breaking and frequent, even then it’ll be a slow process. This kind of complaining is beating a dead horse, there’s no steady stream of money in sc:r so blizzard doesn’t care, they won’t ever care, it’s up to dedicated and skilled community members to provide what sc:r is lacking and even by miracle that does happen and we get some 3rd party server that thrives, I would not be surprised if blizzard finds out and shuts it down and forces everyone to use their servers again
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Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
October 07 2021 00:00 GMT
#15
On October 07 2021 02:26 castleeMg wrote:
Don’t expect them to do anything unless they can profit x10 off of the work that they put in. It really is a shame, the community has complained so much for very basic things, the only real solution is for the community to shift to a third party server like shieldbattery but in order for it to thrive the entire population would have to transfer over including the Korean. Although the reality is that the 1v1 matchmaking works, quite well actually. Sometimes we get ranked with someone way above or way below our skill level but that is maybe every 1/5 matches at the most. The bugs will only be fixed if they’re game breaking and frequent, even then it’ll be a slow process. This kind of complaining is beating a dead horse, there’s no steady stream of money in sc:r so blizzard doesn’t care, they won’t ever care, it’s up to dedicated and skilled community members to provide what sc:r is lacking and even by miracle that does happen and we get some 3rd party server that thrives, I would not be surprised if blizzard finds out and shuts it down and forces everyone to use their servers again



Brood War is still at the 5-7 top of Korea's PC room game usage rankings.
They get huge royalties in Korea and yet they don't solve the problem
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
October 07 2021 00:37 GMT
#16
On October 07 2021 09:00 Cruiser0929 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2021 02:26 castleeMg wrote:
Don’t expect them to do anything unless they can profit x10 off of the work that they put in. It really is a shame, the community has complained so much for very basic things, the only real solution is for the community to shift to a third party server like shieldbattery but in order for it to thrive the entire population would have to transfer over including the Korean. Although the reality is that the 1v1 matchmaking works, quite well actually. Sometimes we get ranked with someone way above or way below our skill level but that is maybe every 1/5 matches at the most. The bugs will only be fixed if they’re game breaking and frequent, even then it’ll be a slow process. This kind of complaining is beating a dead horse, there’s no steady stream of money in sc:r so blizzard doesn’t care, they won’t ever care, it’s up to dedicated and skilled community members to provide what sc:r is lacking and even by miracle that does happen and we get some 3rd party server that thrives, I would not be surprised if blizzard finds out and shuts it down and forces everyone to use their servers again



Brood War is still at the 5-7 top of Korea's PC room game usage rankings.
They get huge royalties in Korea and yet they don't solve the problem



its peanuts compared to what they get from candy crush or warzone
JohnDelaney
Profile Joined November 2019
Ireland73 Posts
October 07 2021 01:34 GMT
#17
On October 07 2021 02:26 castleeMg wrote:
even by miracle that does happen and we get some 3rd party server that thrives, I would not be surprised if blizzard finds out and shuts it down and forces everyone to use their servers again

If the private server is hosted in Vladivostok, ActiBlizzard can't shut it down. If Koreans can tolerate 115ms latency (Vladivostok to Seoul) it's always an option.
Provizal
Profile Joined October 2021
1 Post
October 07 2021 10:49 GMT
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Profile Joined October 2021
2 Posts
October 07 2021 11:36 GMT
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Profile Joined March 2023
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