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ASTL2 to start Jan 17

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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-27 15:10:25
December 15 2020 08:49 GMT
#1
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http://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/post/65619921

    League format:

6-team Bo5 round-robin --> Bo7 single elimination playoffs

Bo5: 4x entry 1v1 + ACE 1v1

Bo7: 4x entry 1v1 + 3x ACE 1v1 (any player eligible unless already played in one of the ACE matches)
    Map pool:

Eclipse, Benzene, Ringing Bloom, Shakuras Temple, Polypoid
    Team captains:

ZerO, Soma, Light, Larva, Snow, Best

(FlaSh declined due to personal circumstances)

UPDATE: Flash will run his own team after all.

    Draft order:

Best --> Snow --> Larva --> Light --> Soma --> ZerO --> ZerO --> Soma --> Light --> Larva --> Snow --> Best --> Best --> Snow --> Larva --> Light --> Soma --> ZerO

(Team captains will have the freedom to add up to 2 more players to their team once the draft concludes)
    Prize pool:

1st place: ~9,1k USD
2nd place: ~4,5k USD
3rd place: ~2,7k USD
4th place: ~1,8k USD
    Broadcast schedule:

Jan 04 - Team draft (FreecUP Studio)
Jan 17, 19, 24, 26, 31; Feb 2, 7, 9 - Round-robin (online)
Feb 18 - Playoffs R1 (FreecUP Studio)
Feb 21 - Playoffs R2 (FreecUP Studio)
Feb 28 - Finals (FreecUIP Studio)
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WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China147 Posts
December 15 2020 08:47 GMT
#2
Great!
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-15 09:18:41
December 15 2020 08:50 GMT
#3
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http://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/post/65620703

The StarCraft ASTL team unit, featuring the best StarCraft players, returns to Season 2.

ASTL, which started last season 1 with various companies, will be comprised of a total of 6 teams in this season 2 and is recruiting sponsor companies to support each team.

Together, 'team sponsors' receive a number of benefits for branded companies or products on ASTL broadcasts.

Please see the details below, and if you have any interests or inquiries, please email us and we will provide you with detailed information.



So we ask for your interest and participation.



A) Team Sponsor Participation Objective: Individual and Corporate Business

B) Team Sponsor Recruitment Period: Dec 14 (Monday) ~ Dec 31 (Thursday)

C) Competition period: January 17 (Sunday) ~ February 28 (Sunday)

D) Team Sponsorship Amount: Minimum amount of 5 million won or more

→ Team priority is given to the sponsoring company that sponsored the most

E) Consultation email: aslstarleague@naver.com

F) Benefits of team sponsorship:

→ Company and product branding via ASTL Season 2 broadcast and participating team uniforms

→ Apply ASTL Season 2 team name and promote company name when broadcasting

→ Apply a patch to the player's uniform

→ Temporary advertising display (but competitive gaming companies need consultation)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50239 Posts
December 15 2020 08:50 GMT
#4
Hopefully nobody has a stork level meltdown during the draft
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
386 Posts
December 15 2020 09:01 GMT
#5
Any English coverage?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
December 15 2020 09:15 GMT
#6
It is only 4.5 - 4.6K to sponsor a team? That is not much really, let's sponsor a ASTL team.
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
December 15 2020 09:27 GMT
#7
hype
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2039 Posts
December 15 2020 09:50 GMT
#8
Prizepool should be in millions?
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-15 10:25:29
December 15 2020 10:16 GMT
#9
On December 15 2020 18:50 kogeT wrote:
Prizepool should be in millions?


i didnt think putting 10 billion USD as the first place prize could go over anyones head :c
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1519 Posts
December 15 2020 10:40 GMT
#10
Cool.

Was thinking about doing something like this with BSL for foreigners, I like this way of forming teams for teamleague much more than regular "teams".

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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2039 Posts
December 15 2020 10:59 GMT
#11
On December 15 2020 19:40 ZZZero.O wrote:
Cool.

Was thinking about doing something like this with BSL for foreigners, I like this way of forming teams for teamleague much more than regular "teams".



Really? I think this takes half of team hype away. Nothing better than having a league with characters, stories etc. around teams.. and you can only get that over time.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
December 15 2020 11:16 GMT
#12
so it has been confirmed ZZZero thinks proleague sucked

wow
WOW
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
December 15 2020 11:34 GMT
#13
On December 15 2020 19:59 kogeT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2020 19:40 ZZZero.O wrote:
Cool.

Was thinking about doing something like this with BSL for foreigners, I like this way of forming teams for teamleague much more than regular "teams".



Really? I think this takes half of team hype away. Nothing better than having a league with characters, stories etc. around teams.. and you can only get that over time.


This is my problem with ASTL as well. I literally don't care about the teams in ASTL at all, there's nothing riding on anything, it's just random players put together for one event and it's hard to want to get invested in it at all. I appreciate it's finally a kind of teamleague format, but it's nowhere near as good or interesting to follow as proleague was or heck even Moo Proleague.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
December 15 2020 11:42 GMT
#14
On December 15 2020 19:59 kogeT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2020 19:40 ZZZero.O wrote:
Cool.

Was thinking about doing something like this with BSL for foreigners, I like this way of forming teams for teamleague much more than regular "teams".



Really? I think this takes half of team hype away. Nothing better than having a league with characters, stories etc. around teams.. and you can only get that over time.


Imo it works in Korea where there have been enough competitive players to form several competitive teams + teams aren't all that big. Outside Korea, at least after ~2001 or so, there's pretty much always been one really dominant team, sometimes two.

I definitely agree that it is, in theory, better to have teams with long histories and consistent players and stuff showing up. But I would much rather have a balanced team league than a bunch of fairly meaningless fluff ending with Irk vs Soul.
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ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1519 Posts
December 15 2020 12:46 GMT
#15
On December 15 2020 19:59 kogeT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2020 19:40 ZZZero.O wrote:
Cool.

Was thinking about doing something like this with BSL for foreigners, I like this way of forming teams for teamleague much more than regular "teams".



Really? I think this takes half of team hype away. Nothing better than having a league with characters, stories etc. around teams.. and you can only get that over time.



I agree that the hype is there because of these things and I like regular teams proleague.
Don't over interpret what I said, it's just my opinion of how I would do it if I would do it.
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-15 12:56:02
December 15 2020 12:53 GMT
#16
On December 15 2020 20:42 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2020 19:59 kogeT wrote:
On December 15 2020 19:40 ZZZero.O wrote:
Cool.

Was thinking about doing something like this with BSL for foreigners, I like this way of forming teams for teamleague much more than regular "teams".



Really? I think this takes half of team hype away. Nothing better than having a league with characters, stories etc. around teams.. and you can only get that over time.


Imo it works in Korea where there have been enough competitive players to form several competitive teams + teams aren't all that big. Outside Korea, at least after ~2001 or so, there's pretty much always been one really dominant team, sometimes two.

I definitely agree that it is, in theory, better to have teams with long histories and consistent players and stuff showing up. But I would much rather have a balanced team league than a bunch of fairly meaningless fluff ending with Irk vs Soul.


Remove korean teams from the equation and you have quite a dynamic top4 of foreign teams.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
December 15 2020 12:55 GMT
#17
On December 15 2020 20:42 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2020 19:59 kogeT wrote:
On December 15 2020 19:40 ZZZero.O wrote:
Cool.

Was thinking about doing something like this with BSL for foreigners, I like this way of forming teams for teamleague much more than regular "teams".



Really? I think this takes half of team hype away. Nothing better than having a league with characters, stories etc. around teams.. and you can only get that over time.


Imo it works in Korea where there have been enough competitive players to form several competitive teams + teams aren't all that big. Outside Korea, at least after ~2001 or so, there's pretty much always been one really dominant team, sometimes two.

I definitely agree that it is, in theory, better to have teams with long histories and consistent players and stuff showing up. But I would much rather have a balanced team league than a bunch of fairly meaningless fluff ending with Irk vs Soul.




I totally understand that, my favorite league is STPL, and it's possibly a Soul monologue and maybe Wiko a little / quite a bit further. Although I always hope that NETWARS and IRK will one day make it.
But I guess that also has its magic.

Likewise, if ASTL 2 goes well, the sponsors SK TELECOM, KT Rolster, Hwaseung OZ, CJ Entus return ...

Dreaming is free
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
December 15 2020 15:46 GMT
#18
Did Flash just decline captaincy or participation in the league?
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-15 15:51:55
December 15 2020 15:46 GMT
#19
On December 15 2020 21:53 kogeT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2020 20:42 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On December 15 2020 19:59 kogeT wrote:
On December 15 2020 19:40 ZZZero.O wrote:
Cool.

Was thinking about doing something like this with BSL for foreigners, I like this way of forming teams for teamleague much more than regular "teams".



Really? I think this takes half of team hype away. Nothing better than having a league with characters, stories etc. around teams.. and you can only get that over time.


Imo it works in Korea where there have been enough competitive players to form several competitive teams + teams aren't all that big. Outside Korea, at least after ~2001 or so, there's pretty much always been one really dominant team, sometimes two.

I definitely agree that it is, in theory, better to have teams with long histories and consistent players and stuff showing up. But I would much rather have a balanced team league than a bunch of fairly meaningless fluff ending with Irk vs Soul.


Remove korean teams from the equation and you have quite a dynamic top4 of foreign teams.


I'd be interested to see how this season of BWCL is going to go now NaS are back. It's been pretty much iRk and SouL the last 3 seasons + one or two other teams that seem to get smashed in the Semis. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong and maybe this is a more recent thing, but even in STPL if you removed WHITE from the equation (because if you factor in just SouL's foreign roster I think they'd still be one of the top teams) in season 1 and 2 it's been pretty much NetWars and iRk at the top with NaS just behind then everyone else so I think you'd still end up with 3-4 stable teams at the top of the board. I think that's just how things work in teamleagues without a draft or something. It's the same in football, but due to the teams changing a lot due to players getting older and money changing hands a lot there's a bit more variance.

I can see why people maybe wouldn't like that, but it never really bothered me much in the proleague days when KT, SKT and CJ were owning everyone. It helped that I supported SKT I guess, but even rooting for your team knowing they're not going to win (see football and mid table teams for instance) can be fun especially if there's upsets.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
December 15 2020 16:22 GMT
#20
On December 16 2020 00:46 Cricketer12 wrote:
Did Flash just decline captaincy or participation in the league?


flash turned down the chance to lead a team, we'll see if he's chosen to compete once sign ups have closed
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
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