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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
July 16 2007 08:15 GMT
#41
On July 16 2007 13:46 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote:
there's only 2 important factors - whether it cloaks, and whether it is air.

i think it's either:
lurker, dt, ghost, carrier, wraith

carrier will beat ghost imho. ghost don't have enough energy to take down a carrier. but wraith imho beats carrier. and wraith can beat any other stuff too.

so i go with wraith.

EDIT: ya... dark archon with mind control but dies to dt.


malestrom + mc =)
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Ruins
Profile Joined April 2007
141 Posts
July 16 2007 08:15 GMT
#42
umm, even without cloaking, a full energy HT might be able to kill a wraith
Nothing is new. We just forget the old.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
July 16 2007 08:22 GMT
#43
btw, archon and ultras tie, as the one who hit first wins the battle...
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
July 16 2007 08:23 GMT
#44
It's DA. consider that the only thing it can't beat right away are cloaked mechanical units. In other words wraith/obs. Obs is an obvious tie.

Now wraith is tricky. it depends how the fight is set. do the units see each other since beginning? if so, assuming no other aids, that means wraith is in range of mind control, meaning DA wins. If not, wraith will have to find the DA then cloak, since wraith can't stay cloaked forever and just look around -- means it has to be visible at least until it sees the DA, meaning the DA sees it and mind controls.

Now let's assume somehow a cloaked wraith got within attacking range of a DA. with wraith's shitty anti-ground attack and da's regenerating shields, it's plausible (anyone wanna test?) that DA can live until wraith runs out at which point it's gg wraith.

so DA even possibly (likely?) beats wraith and ties with obs. we have a winner

without da, random fun ideas:
medic against anything visible can flare and never be found again.. >_>
queen can ensnare anything and run around like an idiot (one of the fastest units in the game?) and pretty much tie everything it can't broodling
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
July 16 2007 09:17 GMT
#45
In contrast, what do you think is the worst 1v1 unit?

I'd have to go with the Dragoon.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-16 09:20:18
July 16 2007 09:20 GMT
#46
On July 16 2007 18:17 Scorpion wrote:
In contrast, what do you think is the worst 1v1 unit?

I'd have to go with the Dragoon.
no its scourge, it dies to everything and even kills itself when it attacks. But since it has less HP than an infested terran it wins.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
July 16 2007 09:21 GMT
#47
On July 16 2007 18:17 Scorpion wrote:
In contrast, what do you think is the worst 1v1 unit?

I'd have to go with the Dragoon.


without micro? dragoon would still be beating shit like vulture/goliath/marine/workers/firebat/hydra etc.

with micro dragoon would do even better vs like adrenaling or ultra or idk
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 16 2007 09:24 GMT
#48
Can we use hero units? I'd say Infested Kerrigan would mop up most units other than say a science vessel or a smart vulture.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 16 2007 09:46 GMT
#49
this thread has yielded more interesting discussion than i had originally expected... haha, not bad
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
July 16 2007 09:59 GMT
#50
soul hunter
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
July 16 2007 10:11 GMT
#51
id say goliath
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43582 Posts
July 16 2007 10:20 GMT
#52
On July 16 2007 13:50 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote:
will maelstrom work on dt?

DA with upgrade is 250 energy right? maelstrom = 100, mindcontrol = 200? shoot, can't maelstrom then mind control. but i guess DA can keep running so it's draw, not loss.


Or we can use mind control for 150. That's what I do.
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LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
July 16 2007 10:37 GMT
#53
battle cruiser with scan
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 16 2007 10:44 GMT
#54
On July 16 2007 18:59 Hot_Bid wrote:
soul hunter

hahaha
teh leet newb
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1999 Posts
July 16 2007 10:53 GMT
#55
Mothership. GG.
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 16 2007 11:14 GMT
#56
Archon / Carrier. All other answers are dumb.
Nak Allstar.
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 16 2007 11:15 GMT
#57
On July 16 2007 18:17 Scorpion wrote:
In contrast, what do you think is the worst 1v1 unit?

I'd have to go with the Dragoon.


Marine / Defiler.
Nak Allstar.
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
July 16 2007 11:16 GMT
#58
lets just assume cloaking doesnt exist because that doenst define a "strong" 1v1 unit...so i'd probably have to be the battle cruiser or carrier, bc has an edge due to the yamato cannon, but carrier has hella hp and huge upgrades....no other unit compares
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mk..))
Profile Joined February 2007
95 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-16 11:20:49
July 16 2007 11:19 GMT
#59
can cloaked wraith kill DA with 3+shiled before mana is gone?

anyway I think its DA.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 16 2007 11:52 GMT
#60
On July 16 2007 18:20 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2007 18:17 Scorpion wrote:
In contrast, what do you think is the worst 1v1 unit?

I'd have to go with the Dragoon.
no its scourge, it dies to everything and even kills itself when it attacks. But since it has less HP than an infested terran it wins.

probably the best answer so far... i think this solves the worst unit question, but the best unit question is still debatable
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