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What would be the strongest 1v1 UNIT?

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[terGTOss]
Profile Joined July 2006
Canada46 Posts
July 16 2007 04:34 GMT
#1
Assuming all unit upgrades are complete and that all spellcasters are at full energy (and that both sides have reasonably good micro), what do you think would be the strongest 1v1 unit?

You must consider that a matchup such as carrier vs DT would actually be a tie as the carrier cannot see DT..
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 16 2007 04:36 GMT
#2
hmm we could actually .. well calculate this.. every unit vs every unit and the one with the most wins and least loses and draws ( dt vs carrier e.g. ) would win.. omg
im just.. let me say.. guessing..
without micro 1v1 the best unit is probably.. omg no idea its too complicated but if someone has the time..
make a list and we can find out ^^;;
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 16 2007 04:39 GMT
#3
its probably carrier or battle cruiser..
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CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
July 16 2007 04:39 GMT
#4
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CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
July 16 2007 04:39 GMT
#5
it's not even a competition, a cloaked wraith wins every fight it gets in.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-16 04:42:33
July 16 2007 04:40 GMT
#6
Probably the carrier. It's tankinsh hp, with 8 fully upgraded interceptors, decent attack speed, and ability to attack both ground and air should prove it superior to most units.

EDIT: Well, if you're saying that neither side gets detection, the ghost has the same ability as the wraiths (attacks ground and air, cloak). The nuke takes supply, so is it part of the ghost definition of a spell?
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fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
July 16 2007 04:45 GMT
#7
Dark archon with mind control?
IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-16 04:49:27
July 16 2007 04:46 GMT
#8
there's only 2 important factors - whether it cloaks, and whether it is air.

i think it's either:
lurker, dt, ghost, carrier, wraith

carrier will beat ghost imho. ghost don't have enough energy to take down a carrier. but wraith imho beats carrier. and wraith can beat any other stuff too.

so i go with wraith.

EDIT: ya... dark archon with mind control but dies to dt.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 16 2007 04:50 GMT
#9
This discussion is dumb if there is no detection, with detection its still dumb.
IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
July 16 2007 04:50 GMT
#10
will maelstrom work on dt?

DA with upgrade is 250 energy right? maelstrom = 100, mindcontrol = 200? shoot, can't maelstrom then mind control. but i guess DA can keep running so it's draw, not loss.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2006
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Last Edited: 2007-07-16 04:51:11
July 16 2007 04:50 GMT
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Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-16 04:56:56
July 16 2007 04:52 GMT
#12
DA would win vs every visible unit + dt
[edit] when i think about it, the dt could just stand in any corner of the map, the DA had no chance of getting him
davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
July 16 2007 04:53 GMT
#13
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28784 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-16 04:59:31
July 16 2007 04:56 GMT
#14
the drone can tie or beat every unit too

burrow vs all cept vessel and templar
build building vs those
;(

if you want a serious answer, without special abilities or micro im fairly confident the archon wins 1v1 vs anything, even bc.
with special abilities, dark archon beats mostly everything, with exception of wraith that has enough mana to kill it off without uncloaking.

with micro and without special abilities, carrier should beat all.
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Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
July 16 2007 04:57 GMT
#15
the drone can't win any mu though :D
IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
July 16 2007 04:58 GMT
#16
On July 16 2007 13:56 Liquid`Drone wrote:
the drone can tie or beat every unit too

burrow vs all cept vessel and templar
build building vs those
;(


you mean larvae. larvae > all.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28784 Posts
July 16 2007 05:00 GMT
#17
drone beats scv and probe with micro/burrow+heal, should be able to beat marine too, although then you'd depend on no fuckups burrow-wise.
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 16 2007 05:02 GMT
#18
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 16 2007 05:11 GMT
#19
On July 16 2007 13:50 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote:
will maelstrom work on dt?

DA with upgrade is 250 energy right? maelstrom = 100, mindcontrol = 200? shoot, can't maelstrom then mind control. but i guess DA can keep running so it's draw, not loss.

MC is 150, there is plenty of micro maps out there that has some shit like...

1dt and 4 zealot has entered your base. You only have like 1DA and ur suppose to mael everything and MC the DT to finish off the zlot.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 16 2007 05:12 GMT
#20
What about ghost? You hide somewhere so DA can't find you and you jsut nuke it. :D
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