Sadly i think it might be hard to find players if it ends up being a BYOC. I'll ask some oldschoolers tho.
And yea it would be cool if we could all rent a big place close to the lan center (organizing this might be a headache tho :D). Worst case scenario would be to just book hotel rooms, in any case i think we'll be going out every night ^_^.
BYOC is tough. I guess if they have monitors there, then it would be fine, as I suspect most would bring a laptop. Guess those details will be released later on?
I'd love to go. Good initiative. Though I have some concerns if it gets cancelled in the end due to the lack of players. I will end up just watching SC2 which is less than ideal.
On April 18 2019 15:44 QuadroX wrote: I'd love to go. Good initiative. Though I have some concerns if it gets cancelled in the end due to the lack of players. I will end up just watching SC2 which is less than ideal.
You'd just play with whoever came in hotel rooms and have a tournament that way, then mingle with SC2 people or whatever when you get bored ^^
I suck now, I don't play enough anymore, but damn, I'm in quebec city, I have no excuses, I should go. It would be funny to meet artosis again here after meeting him in korea a few times.
On April 19 2019 01:23 Essbee wrote: I suck now, I don't play enough anymore, but damn, I'm in quebec city, I have no excuses, I should go. It would be funny to meet artosis again here after meeting him in korea a few times.
On April 19 2019 01:23 Essbee wrote: I suck now, I don't play enough anymore, but damn, I'm in quebec city, I have no excuses, I should go. It would be funny to meet artosis again here after meeting him in korea a few times.
ESSBEE <3
You might meet me too, aren't you excited?
Wait, you serious? Let's get another bo7 going!! :D
On April 19 2019 01:23 Essbee wrote: I suck now, I don't play enough anymore, but damn, I'm in quebec city, I have no excuses, I should go. It would be funny to meet artosis again here after meeting him in korea a few times.
ESSBEE <3
You might meet me too, aren't you excited?
Wait, you serious? Let's get another bo7 going!! :D
On April 19 2019 01:23 Essbee wrote: I suck now, I don't play enough anymore, but damn, I'm in quebec city, I have no excuses, I should go. It would be funny to meet artosis again here after meeting him in korea a few times.
ESSBEE <3
You might meet me too, aren't you excited?
Wait, you serious? Let's get another bo7 going!! :D
That's awesome mate, where do you live btw?
I'm down! I think it was a Bo5 though? ^^
I live in New Jersey.
Haha was it Bo5? It's been so long. Ok nice, NJ isn't that far. Would be great to see you there man!
On April 19 2019 04:32 CaStrO wrote: i dont have PC
Well most people don't bring their PC to BYOCs, way too hard to move around. Usually it's just a laptop + monitor, personally i wouldn't even bring a monitor, laptop screen works just fine. I wonder if we could rent laptops or something.
Registered to TL after some years of lurking just for this :D
AWESOME idea. I'm a pretty casual SC1 & SC2 gamer but being in the area I would be able to bring my laptop plus one, maybe two extra computers (or monitors) for anyone who can't bring their own.
My family also owns an orchard near Montreal so I would be able to bring bags of free apples for everyone.
I also have a condo with a spare bedroom and living room not too far away (near Jarry park). I would be happy to host 1 to a few people if paying for a hotel is an issue.
On April 19 2019 08:48 Popy wrote: Registered to TL after some years of lurking just for this :D
AWESOME idea. I'm a pretty casual SC1 & SC2 gamer but being in the area I would be able to bring my laptop plus one, maybe two extra computers for anyone who can't bring their own.
My family also owns an orchard near Montreal so I would be able to bring bags of free apples for everyone.
I also have a condo with a spare bedroom and living room not too far away (near Jarry park). I would be happy to host 1 to a few people if paying for a hotel is an issue.
LONG LIVE BROOD WAR
This is awesome! We could make a temporary list of the people who want to come and see who might need something.
Montreal in general is very cheap as a renting city, airbnbs can go as low as ~20-30$ per night. Also keep in mind that this is in Canadian dollars (so 15-23$ US).
If hardware is the issue for some, I know at least a few people who would be willing to lend a laptop or monitor for the cause so I would be happy to try to procure as much equipment as I can if people need.
On April 19 2019 11:03 Popy wrote: Montreal in general is very cheap as a renting city, airbnbs can go as low as ~20-30$ per night. Also keep in mind that this is in Canadian dollars (so 15-23$ US).
If hardware is the issue for some, I know at least a few people who would be willing to lend a laptop or monitor for the cause so I would be happy to try to procure as much equipment as I can if people need.
On April 19 2019 04:32 CaStrO wrote: i dont have PC
Well most people don't bring their PC to BYOCs, way too hard to move around. Usually it's just a laptop + monitor, personally i wouldn't even bring a monitor, laptop screen works just fine. I wonder if we could rent laptops or something.
Our DreamHack Canada counterparts are looking at what options exist for helping people rent PCs so will update here once we know more!
Awesome initiative will see what I can do when I'm back in the office next week.
TLDR: If you are going to do anything with Dreamhack, have very clearly defined language agreed upon before hand, and have several different people sign off on everything you do so that there is verification later. A fun and simple BYOC LAN can be the worst experience of your life when working with DH. I'll explain in further detail as to why, below.
Some already know this, some have likely never heard it before, I only bring it up so you hopefully know what to look at avoiding. I should note, before I write any of this, I do not believe anyone truly had malicous intend on screwing over our event, I think there was a lot of miscommunication and strange prioritizing, but this is still how it played out:
Original plan: Dreamhack was hosting a $2,000 BYOC tournament for SC2. We managed to work with blizzad and sponsors to bring that number up to $7,500 USD ( 2017 DreamHack/Atlanta ). We would be given supervision of the tournament in the BYOC area, and run the event for them in exchange for our prize pool boost and online coverage, the finals would even be played out on the "Main stage" (air quotes because the main stage was like 1/2 the size of the CS:GO area).
What actually happened: Dreamhack Atlanta was one of the most frustrating and embarrassing live events I've ever tried to coordinate. We were told initially we'd have a row reserved for us in the BYOC LAN area, that we could use for starcraft people. We even rented PC's & monitors from The Cave (shout out to those bros in fairfax) as well as a PC set strictly for streaming. However, upon arriving for set up days before the event, we were greeted with unreasonable hostility from the area coordinator, which I wrote off as being stressed out with a big event happening, and it led to many many problems.
1) When asking which row was ours to begin setting up the 10 or so PC's we brought, he said we were being given our own little area instead. I thought that sounded pretty awesome, but what we got was a small 16ft x 16ft area, not roped off, right infront of the admin area. This was a concern because it would result in a lot of traffic from not starcraft people coming and going to the admin desk, right through our set up. Unhappy, but did our best to cope. After spending 2 hours moving desks, unloading PC's and setting up, I asked where we could plug in our ethernet cables (I learned from a previous Dreamhack experience they don't provide you with any cords or cables, you have to buy or bring your own). Turns out the area they "reserved" for us didn't have any possible access to the internet at all.
2) Despite being in direct contact with several dreamhack admins across various emails, I had done most of the point of contact stuff with Adebisi and Heyoka, and while I understand that both of them were busy working this event as well, neither were really available to help with our situation. I can't recall if it was Heyoka, or who, but someone eventually got back to us and let us move to the BYOC LAN area as originally planned, however as it was clear this was an afterthought/plan B situation, we were only given the unclaimed seats and placements, meaning the PC's were scattered all over the place randomly throughout the sections. Frustrating, but doable.
3) The day before Dreamhack officially started, we were finishing up everything we needed for set up. We ran into some hiccups regarding missing cords etc but we had managed to go to best buy to get what was missing. Upon returning I was flagged down by the leader of the LAN area, and he was very upset we weren't reporting for duty. What? He was under the impression zombiegrub and I (Rifkin) were there to act as volunteers for the other LAN areas, when we were not working the Sc2 tournament, implying we were meant to be running around helping the other areas set up and fetching stuff, and furthermore that we were to do this throughout the entire 3 days we were there. I laughed it off because it seemed like a joke, or a simple misunderstanding, but this escalated very quickly to him name dropping somebody named "Gary" as if I were supposed to know or fear that name, and said he'd go grab him. I asked him, politely, to do just that. Gary, who was titled with "head of all of dreamhack north america" came up and made the same demands of our work load. I said there was not a chance in the universe zombiegrub and I were going to act as volunteers during downtime, or any other time. He then said I agreed to it when we were emailing, and confident that I hadn't I pulled up the only email chain between us and showed him this email where, no matter how many ways I read it, looked like they would be providing us with volunteers, and not us joining their volunteer crew. (blacked out parts are sensitive information not related to the point of the image) They would continue to badger me about this the entire weekend, until one of the PC rental guys volunteered to be a volunteer in my place.
4) We were told there'd be a viewing area for the sc2 fans. With everything else that had happened, this went from a dedicated area to watch, to a small office room that could fit like 5-10 people that was way away from the actual event, to not having a viewing area at all. Good guy and esports angel archnog bought a 32 inch TV for us to use as a cloned second monitor, so that any SC2 fan that was there could at least watch the games and hear us cast IRL, as we were on the edge of the seating area
However upon walking back into Dreamhack with this TV, the same lead guy came up to us and told us that we couldn't use the TV, and that if we did in order for fans to watch behind us, he'd kick us out. This was really stupid, and frustrating, because it seemed to be for no reason other than this guy was power tripping, and we were really upset that we had spent all this money flying ourselves out here, renting the PC's etc and putting our money into the prize pool! So I expressed this frustration and was met with, "You didn't spend that much money, get over yourself". Needless to say I was pissed, but rather than punch this guy in the neck and get kicked out, I just said "ok" and spoke with Archnog about returning the TV to the store in the morning.
5) This part is just hearsay, but a trusthworthy inside source told us they were considering stripping our badges after this last altercation, and running the tournament without us, fully unaware that we were providing the prize money and coordination for the tournament. This explained his really shitty response to my frustrations with things a little, but it didn't make it any more forgivable. So the Day of Dreamhack Day 1 is live, and overnight somebody has bumped into our casting PC's monitor and broken it overnight. Lucky for us we had a back up TV to use, so we plugged it in and got to video testing right away (this was really awful, but at least it got the job done, and it looked okay on the stream). Gary, the "head of dreamhack north america" instructed mr asshole to walk up to us, and I believe the intent was to strip our badges, upon seeing us use the TV despite being instructed not to. As he came up to us, one of the players, can't recall who, intervened and explained our situation to him before he even got to me, although I could hear all this as I was running audio tests and the microphones were picking them up. I guess this satisfied him because when he finally got to me he asked me awkwardly not-so-casual questions as to what we were doing, then left without saying anything.
Almost done here, promise.
6) Despite working against all odds, we managed to get things going with the tournament. It flowed fairly smoothly, not too many issues in regards to the tournament itself, but so many problems with handling it. Due to the fact that they scattered the PC's all over randomly throughout the BYOC area, we had some players right next to us, and some players super on the other side of the area, and some of the folks who brought their own PC's and not using the ones we rented, were off in Africa and/or a 10 minute walk from our area. This lead to several different Dreamhack admins contacting us and giving us "official warnings" about having players walk around the area to report their score, as so much movement could cause issues. (???) We just said sure, sorry, but there wasn't anything we could do about this at all so we just kept going and kept getting warnings (like 15 by the end of the day)
7) Last thing that went wrong. We've fought through all the bullshit and gotten to the final day, where suppy, masa, pilipili and true would compete on the main stage, and we would get to cast! It didn't matter what else happened at this point, we were in the clear. Until we learned that the entire first bo3 (suppy vs masa) was broadcast in 360p. Supposedly they had a local recording in high quality they would send to us after for youtube, despite the stream being so awful. (to this day, despite multiple emails throughout 2018, I still never received this video) After I caught wind of this I demanded we stop and restart the stream, and the production crew was unaware that I, as "talent" was also in charge of the show and could make such demands, and in my ear piece told me no. I had to create a bit of a commotion on stream, and tried to make it look like a silly bit "angry rifkin" but internally I was livid and had to make demands about restarting in a WATCHABLE quality. They finally caved and restarted, it was 720p, whatever. We finished the finals and were told due to time we had to CUT the 3rd/4th place match, which I was unhappy about but convinced the players to do a rock paper scissors off bo3 on the stage. They agreed and said it was probably more fun than playing the match out anyways (if memory serves, I think suppy won, haha)
And that was the nightmare experience I had working with Dreamhack. I would receive some follow up emails about our "conduct" but when I demanded to speak with someone in HR to report the issues I experienced, those emails stopped coming. Good luck bros, just don't get caught off guard like we did.
On April 20 2019 08:52 BasetradeTV wrote: TLDR: If you are going to do anything with Dreamhack, have very clearly defined language agreed upon before hand, and have several different people sign off on everything you do so that there is verification later. A fun and simple BYOC LAN can be the worst experience of your life when working with DH. I'll explain in further detail as to why, below.
Some already know this, some have likely never heard it before, I only bring it up so you hopefully know what to look at avoiding. I should note, before I write any of this, I do not believe anyone truly had malicous intend on screwing over our event, I think there was a lot of miscommunication and strange prioritizing, but this is still how it played out:
Original plan: Dreamhack was hosting a $2,000 BYOC tournament for SC2. We managed to work with blizzad and sponsors to bring that number up to $7,500 USD ( 2017 DreamHack/Atlanta ). We would be given supervision of the tournament in the BYOC area, and run the event for them in exchange for our prize pool boost and online coverage, the finals would even be played out on the "Main stage" (air quotes because the main stage was like 1/2 the size of the CS:GO area).
What actually happened: Dreamhack Atlanta was one of the most frustrating and embarrassing live events I've ever tried to coordinate. We were told initially we'd have a row reserved for us in the BYOC LAN area, that we could use for starcraft people. We even rented PC's & monitors from The Cave (shout out to those bros in fairfax) as well as a PC set strictly for streaming. However, upon arriving for set up days before the event, we were greeted with unreasonable hostility from the area coordinator, which I wrote off as being stressed out with a big event happening, and it led to many many problems.
1) When asking which row was ours to begin setting up the 10 or so PC's we brought, he said we were being given our own little area instead. I thought that sounded pretty awesome, but what we got was a small 16ft x 16ft area, not roped off, right infront of the admin area. This was a concern because it would result in a lot of traffic from not starcraft people coming and going to the admin desk, right through our set up. Unhappy, but did our best to cope. After spending 2 hours moving desks, unloading PC's and setting up, I asked where we could plug in our ethernet cables (I learned from a previous Dreamhack experience they don't provide you with any cords or cables, you have to buy or bring your own). Turns out the area they "reserved" for us didn't have any possible access to the internet at all.
2) Despite being in direct contact with several dreamhack admins across various emails, I had done most of the point of contact stuff with Adebisi and Heyoka, and while I understand that both of them were busy working this event as well, neither were really available to help with our situation. I can't recall if it was Heyoka, or who, but someone eventually got back to us and let us move to the BYOC LAN area as originally planned, however as it was clear this was an afterthought/plan B situation, we were only given the unclaimed seats and placements, meaning the PC's were scattered all over the place randomly throughout the sections. Frustrating, but doable.
3) The day before Dreamhack officially started, we were finishing up everything we needed for set up. We ran into some hiccups regarding missing cords etc but we had managed to go to best buy to get what was missing. Upon returning I was flagged down by the leader of the LAN area, and he was very upset we weren't reporting for duty. What? He was under the impression zombiegrub and I (Rifkin) were there to act as volunteers for the other LAN areas, when we were not working the Sc2 tournament, implying we were meant to be running around helping the other areas set up and fetching stuff, and furthermore that we were to do this throughout the entire 3 days we were there. I laughed it off because it seemed like a joke, or a simple misunderstanding, but this escalated very quickly to him name dropping somebody named "Gary" as if I were supposed to know or fear that name, and said he'd go grab him. I asked him, politely, to do just that. Gary, who was titled with "head of all of dreamhack north america" came up and made the same demands of our work load. I said there was not a chance in the universe zombiegrub and I were going to act as volunteers during downtime, or any other time. He then said I agreed to it when we were emailing, and confident that I hadn't I pulled up the only email chain between us and showed him this email where, no matter how many ways I read it, looked like they would be providing us with volunteers, and not us joining their volunteer crew. (blacked out parts are sensitive information not related to the point of the image) They would continue to badger me about this the entire weekend, until one of the PC rental guys volunteered to be a volunteer in my place.
4) We were told there'd be a viewing area for the sc2 fans. With everything else that had happened, this went from a dedicated area to watch, to a small office room that could fit like 5-10 people that was way away from the actual event, to not having a viewing area at all. Good guy and esports angel archnog bought a 32 inch TV https://twitter.com/Rif_kingz/status/888484095520649216 for us to use as a cloned second monitor, so that any SC2 fan that was there could at least watch the games and hear us cast IRL, as we were on the edge of the seating area https://twitter.com/Rif_kingz/status/888764309144293376
However upon walking back into Dreamhack with this TV, the same lead guy came up to us and told us that we couldn't use the TV, and that if we did in order for fans to watch behind us, he'd kick us out. This was really stupid, and frustrating, because it seemed to be for no reason other than this guy was power tripping, and we were really upset that we had spent all this money flying ourselves out here, renting the PC's etc and putting our money into the prize pool! So I expressed this frustration and was met with, "You didn't spend that much money, get over yourself". Needless to say I was pissed, but rather than punch this guy in the neck and get kicked out, I just said "ok" and spoke with Archnog about returning the TV to the store in the morning.
5) This part is just hearsay, but a trusthworthy inside source told us they were considering stripping our badges after this last altercation, and running the tournament without us, fully unaware that we were providing the prize money and coordination for the tournament. This explained his really shitty response to my frustrations with things a little, but it didn't make it any more forgivable. So the Day of Dreamhack Day 1 is live, and overnight somebody has bumped into our casting PC's monitor and broken it overnight. Lucky for us we had a back up TV to use, so we plugged it in and got to video testing right away (this was really awful, but at least it got the job done, and it looked okay on the stream). Gary, the "head of dreamhack north america" instructed mr asshole to walk up to us, and I believe the intent was to strip our badges, upon seeing us use the TV despite being instructed not to. As he came up to us, one of the players, can't recall who, intervened and explained our situation to him before he even got to me, although I could hear all this as I was running audio tests and the microphones were picking them up. I guess this satisfied him because when he finally got to me he asked me awkwardly not-so-casual questions as to what we were doing, then left without saying anything.
Almost done here, promise.
6) Despite working against all odds, we managed to get things going with the tournament. It flowed fairly smoothly, not too many issues in regards to the tournament itself, but so many problems with handling it. Due to the fact that they scattered the PC's all over randomly throughout the BYOC area, we had some players right next to us, and some players super on the other side of the area, and some of the folks who brought their own PC's and not using the ones we rented, were off in Africa and/or a 10 minute walk from our area. This lead to several different Dreamhack admins contacting us and giving us "official warnings" about having players walk around the area to report their score, as so much movement could cause issues. (???) We just said sure, sorry, but there wasn't anything we could do about this at all so we just kept going and kept getting warnings (like 15 by the end of the day)
7) Last thing that went wrong. We've fought through all the bullshit and gotten to the final day, where suppy, masa, pilipili and true would compete on the main stage, and we would get to cast! It didn't matter what else happened at this point, we were in the clear. Until we learned that the entire first bo3 (suppy vs masa) was broadcast in 360p. Supposedly they had a local recording in high quality they would send to us after for youtube, despite the stream being so awful. (to this day, despite multiple emails throughout 2018, I still never received this video) After I caught wind of this I demanded we stop and restart the stream, and the production crew was unaware that I, as "talent" was also in charge of the show and could make such demands, and in my ear piece told me no. I had to create a bit of a commotion on stream, and tried to make it look like a silly bit "angry rifkin" but internally I was livid and had to make demands about restarting in a WATCHABLE quality. They finally caved and restarted, it was 720p, whatever. We finished the finals and were told due to time we had to CUT the 3rd/4th place match, which I was unhappy about but convinced the players to do a rock paper scissors off bo3 on the stage. They agreed and said it was probably more fun than playing the match out anyways (if memory serves, I think suppy won, haha)
And that was the nightmare experience I had working with Dreamhack. I would receive some follow up emails about our "conduct" but when I demanded to speak with someone in HR to report the issues I experienced, those emails stopped coming. Good luck bros, just don't get caught off guard like we did.
I do recall this happening, but tbh the bw people are pretty used to just our small productions. I think likely if we have a tournament, we probably wont cast, and if we do, it wont be too huge a deal. perhaps one day we will gain enough popularity to really make a big production of our exploits, but as is i think everyone just wants to meet up and be together, which is a chance that we very rarely have.
On the one hand I do greatly appreciate Rifkin's post; it helps promote transparency as well as holds organizers somewhat accountable with respect to the various commitments they make.
On the other hand, I reserve a great deal of skepticism towards individuals who present themselves as infallible and, to a large degree, try to construct a narrative of victimization vis-à-vis obvious situations of misunderstanding/failed communication, regardless of whom really is at fault.
I say this with the utmost respect for Rifkin since, to my knowledge, he has been a pillar of the StarCraft II community for years.
In any case I'd be more than willing to contribute to the organization of this event seeing as I live in Montreal and the BW community has a special place in my heart.
On April 20 2019 06:47 ZZZero.O wrote: That's really great initiative, I wish to come, it would be great to meet you all, but it's 1000$ flight only + other expenses, it's too much
I hope we will arrange something like this in europe soon !
Anyway, good luck guys, I hope you will make stream out of it
This is my position as well. I've just moved into my own place so I can't really afford the flight and other expenses. + I'm not even sure I'll be able to get the time off work
My girlfriend is from the Montreal area so I could stay with her folks. It would be very easy for me to show up and compete. Both of which, I am super interested in. Great initiative guys!
I'm going to try and run the best tournament I can given whatever circumstances we get. I guess I'll try to make sure I get contacts for the ground floor BYOC people who'll be in charge of us beforehand.
As Doc said, I don't even think we're planning on casting this unless DH or Blizzard wants to do all that work. I'm taking a pretty hands off approach for any of that kind of thing because adding casting on top of this just sounds troublesome.
Honestly 90% of what I'm looking to do is play some games and hang out with brood war people. I'll put together a bracket and some rules, get some admins from here to help and we'll go from there. If people want to take this tournament super serious I can do that too. Maybe we do two tournaments, one more casual and one serious.
Have to say in general I think a lot of the negativity Rifkin spoke of regarding is warranted to a fair degree.
At DH Austin last year regarding a small UT4 BYOC tournament that had a lot of promises being made ended up broken, and with a BYOC tournament that started at 1AM in the morning due to endless delays, I can't say anything too positive on the organisation front - though the handling of the bomb threat was good considering it was mostly volunteers at the BYOC.
To those taking laptops I urge you all strongly to take them with you when you leave the BYOC so they don't get stolen. In my experience of Austin 2017 and 2018 no one security wise checked my or my friends bags outside of initial and final entry (first and last day). DH have said security is beefed up now but take that with a pinch of salt.
If you do tournaments, don't involve DH and do it all yourselves. If you plan to offer money in them (even tokenly) don't mention it and keep it on the DL. You'll have a far greater time of it .
It’s be good to know what event is actually being planned here, is the tournament just among friends or a more official sort of “dreamhack bw” idea and also where ppl are meeting, a pc bang, someone’s house in Canada, one/ multiple hotels, that’s the kind of shit we need to know.
I will commit to showing up if you guys are missing people, could be fun although I have been quite out of the loop as far as whats going on in the community
On April 21 2019 12:26 siegetank7 wrote: It’s be good to know what event is actually being planned here, is the tournament just among friends or a more official sort of “dreamhack bw” idea and also where ppl are meeting, a pc bang, someone’s house in Canada, one/ multiple hotels, that’s the kind of shit we need to know.
I don't think that was every not clear. This is a community run tournament at DreamHack. We would meet at DreamHack.
It will be held in the BYOC LAN Area... so you will need to make sure you have a computer to use and a BYOC pass.
As far as progress, this is a tournament among the community, held by the community. DreamHack has yet to commit to anything.
Hey everyone! It sounds like a great idea. It's been a very long time since I have played any tournament (it has to go back to WCG tournaments back in the days I believe!!).
It would be nice if it was an official event, well organized, with a dedicated section in the BOYC area. Personnally, I couldn't care less about the prize money. I think that a simple, one-day format tournament could work well and be a lot of fun.
It might be awkward for everyone to bring a full size desktop computer with them tho, if that’s what’s expected, since ppl are traveling from out of state/ country so is there no way to use dreamhack pc cafe or some kind of on site tournament area. And where would the tournament actually occur
On April 21 2019 03:00 SchAmToo wrote: I am super appreciative of the heads up, Rifkin.
I'm going to try and run the best tournament I can given whatever circumstances we get. I guess I'll try to make sure I get contacts for the ground floor BYOC people who'll be in charge of us beforehand.
As Doc said, I don't even think we're planning on casting this unless DH or Blizzard wants to do all that work. I'm taking a pretty hands off approach for any of that kind of thing because adding casting on top of this just sounds troublesome.
Honestly 90% of what I'm looking to do is play some games and hang out with brood war people. I'll put together a bracket and some rules, get some admins from here to help and we'll go from there. If people want to take this tournament super serious I can do that too. Maybe we do two tournaments, one more casual and one serious.
If you run into issues let me know, my company literally shares an office with DH Canada so at least a lot of the on-the-ground issues I can do my best to subvert. Though plenty of these community run BYOC tournaments have happened last year and the year prior so I dunno why anything would come up.
On April 25 2019 04:43 SchAmToo wrote: So just to keep this going, please remember to answer the google sheet here: https://forms.gle/zW7YzvPEVJYCFDQk9
I’ve been talking with DreamHack, Blizzard and other parties. Nothing confirmed yet but we could get a lot of buy in from those companies soon.
As an idea, I’d like to crowdfund for this tournament by running smaller events for no prize pool. Tournaments, fun matches, showmatches, etc.
When I got the tickets I thought to myself: 'What the fudge does BYOC mean? (bring your own computer) Oh, why the hell would I want to bring my computer all the way to Quebec? (will be driving 14 or so hours from where I live.)
Now after reading this thread I'm thinking to myself: "Why the hell didn't I get BYOC tickets. Even just so I can get in the area to watch the BW LAN xD."
Awesome idea Schamtoo! Guess I need to switch ticket type so I can watch the games happening when I'm there.
EDIT: also lol at Montreal being 'east coast'. If it was on the east coast I wouldn't have to drive 14 hours to get there! Although 14 hours beats 3 days for sure.
Damn I bought tickets already for BW portion, is it true it might not happen now? I think this is our one chance to revive the BW community and someone needs to be a hero
Someone should just contact the guy that Schamtoo contacted and tell him what happened. It's not like Schamtoo has exclusive access to this person or something.
We're already in last-minute territory without any solid plans or information. I still have hope but it really isn't looking good right now.
Would our best bet be hosting somewhere dreamhack adjacent? Pretty sure a lot of internet cafes would be empty due to most ppl attending dreamhack, no?
PLEASE PM ME if you are seriously interested and willing to purchase a ticket. If you have, please provide a screenshot to confirm.
An SCBW meetup is happening one way or another. I am confident that if we get enough people buying tickets, we can easily sway DH into securing us an area, prizepool, and official announcement.
Laptop (w/ mouse and keyboard ofc) + a monitor is the easiest way of playing in a BYOC, if you don't wanna carry your monitor around then just bring a laptop + keyboard/mouse.
On May 27 2019 08:44 WGT-Baal wrote: so is this happening? should I get my ticket? let s go people!
Already a fair amount of ppl bought tickets and I am considering buying mine too. I think it's worth it already!!
I see that None BYOC tickets are 100$ instead of 150$, since the bw get together isnt an official tourny, would I see be able to bring my cpu with the None BYOC tournament ticket? if I dont plan on playing any other tourny?
Really considering driving my New Jersey ass up there for this. I guess you would need to purchase the BYOC pass at the least? Or will the festival pass work?
I believe you would need a BYOC pass if you plan on actually participating in the tournament (assuming dh hosts it); if you just want to play and someone lends you their pc I don't see why festival passes wouldn't be valid?
Having more ppl commit to the BYOC would however increase our chances of getting DH to run an official tournament w/ prizepool...
TLDR BYOC is safe bet, not sure about other stuff?
Hey guys, made a discord server for the meetup so we can all just keep in touch, and make arrangements easier. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/Fs4Z7HK
On May 31 2019 02:11 BisuDagger wrote: Does anyone have a contact with any of the Dreamhack Organizers they could PM me? I would also like to help get this more organized too.
Well unfortunately we haven't heard back from the DH folks...
Still, we carry on friends. We're still going to have a meetup.So far I think we are like 10-15 (that I know of)..so if you're on the fence about coming...DO IT, it's going to be a great time I PROMISE.
The current plan is to occupy that XY zone, so if you have your tickets make sure you grab a seat there (and maybe post in this thread or pm me so I know what's up). X1 and X2 are Ty2 and myself.
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