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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 06 2019 08:59 GMT
#1
As the title says:

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18/04 - Group A: Best vs Zero, Modesty vs Sharp

19/04 - Group B: Snow vs Miso, Ample vs Shine

25/04 - Group C: Mini vs Action, ForGG vs Soulkey

26/04 - Group D: Last vs Jaedong, Rain vs Stork

02/05 - Group A: Winners / Losers

03/05 - Group B: Winners / Losers

09/05 - Group C: Winners / Losers

10/05 - Group D: Winners / Losers

16/05 - Group A + Group B: Final Match

17/05 - Group C + Group D: Final Match
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DanielSe
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany38 Posts
April 06 2019 09:11 GMT
#2
uhhhhhhhhhh Group D is hooooooot
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5558 Posts
April 06 2019 09:13 GMT
#3
WTF group D is stacked! How were the groups drawn? :O
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 06 2019 09:19 GMT
#4
On April 06 2019 18:13 maybenexttime wrote:
WTF group D is stacked! How were the groups drawn? :O


https://www.twitch.tv/videos/406894637?
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 06 2019 09:30 GMT
#5
I won't be surprise if the round of eight that has no Terran any players
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
April 06 2019 09:35 GMT
#6
I'm pretty confident Sharp and Last can get through. Don't underestimate how strong they are right now. I think Last and Sharp will both get through to the round of 8.
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-06 09:50:04
April 06 2019 09:40 GMT
#7
Group D are you even being serious right now, how did we end up with such a group?

On April 06 2019 18:19 Ziggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 18:13 maybenexttime wrote:
WTF group D is stacked! How were the groups drawn? :O


https://www.twitch.tv/videos/406894637?

I see. Group D is going to be a SERIOUS night of starcraft. Poor Stork, I wouldn't even bother practising for this one, wait for the next tournament.

my preds:
A - Sharp 1st, Best/Zero 2nd, toss up there
B - Snow 1st, Shine 2nd
C - Soulkey 1st, Mini 2nd
D- ???????

Those are some pretty comfy pyjamas they've got them dressed in this season, I was half expecting them to bring out pillows cause it looks like they're here for the best sleepover ever

BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 06 2019 10:14 GMT
#8
Group D Head: Last and Rain
Heart: Last and Jaedong
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 06 2019 10:17 GMT
#9
^ Stork will get upset when he sees your comment
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 06 2019 10:22 GMT
#10
its fine, the things I say make stork upset on a daily basis.
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1565 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-06 10:50:51
April 06 2019 10:50 GMT
#11
Jaedong will demolish Rain, mark my word, he trains again and his fpvod are getting really brutal.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
April 06 2019 11:22 GMT
#12
Group D is pretty ridiculous..

I wish it would start a bit earlier, too..

Anyways, this is going to be really fun
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ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
April 06 2019 12:12 GMT
#13
lolwtf group D
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
April 06 2019 12:47 GMT
#14
How does Jaedong always end up in these kind of groups? *sigh*
Lets hope his ZvP is still as good as it was in KSL 1, if so he should easily be able to destroy Rain and Stork. Maybe Last still has PTSD from all those JD fanboys trash talking him after KSL S1 finals.

Also kinda sucks for Zero (yeah Zero, not Queen, you don't get to change ur name) to have such a tough group in his first tourney after his military service.
quilajino
Profile Joined January 2018
Brazil46 Posts
April 06 2019 12:49 GMT
#15
The variety-style videos they made for the group selections in past editions were so good, quite sad that they just went for a regular live ceremony this time.
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atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
April 06 2019 12:55 GMT
#16
On April 06 2019 18:30 bovienchien wrote:
I won't be surprise if the round of eight that has no Terran any players


Sharp definitely makes it out of his group and Last has a pretty good chance as long as his wrists don't explode
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
April 06 2019 13:12 GMT
#17
I'm liking group A at the moment. Best, Sharp and Zero. Definitely, a tough group to get out of. I do hope Sharp can advance though. He has shown great form in the last year and it would be a shame to not see him get a premier win.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 06 2019 13:50 GMT
#18
A and C seem stacked compared to the other 2. B especially looks weak.
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
April 06 2019 14:42 GMT
#19
Groups C and D could pass for SC2 GSL groups.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
April 06 2019 14:58 GMT
#20
Action will have to do something crazy to beat Mini. But he's good at coming up with those kinds of strats. Should be fun to watch in any case.
KTY
aznheat80
Profile Joined August 2010
United States186 Posts
April 06 2019 15:24 GMT
#21
does anyone know where the studio is at? and if you need tickets? im going to be in seoul that week
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
April 06 2019 15:41 GMT
#22
On April 06 2019 19:50 iFU.pauline wrote:
Jaedong will demolish Rain, mark my word, he trains again and his fpvod are getting really brutal.


I'm worried about JD vs Last thou ><
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 06 2019 15:48 GMT
#23
On April 07 2019 00:24 aznheat80 wrote:
does anyone know where the studio is at? and if you need tickets? im going to be in seoul that week


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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
April 06 2019 15:48 GMT
#24
Wow that sucks for rain and last. This tournament will be short for them.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
April 06 2019 17:05 GMT
#25
How were these groups chosen? Seems like they were purposefully created to have no mirrors haha.

If only Jaedong was swapped with miso/shine

going to guess:
group A - zero/sharp
group B - snow/shine
group C - mini/soulkey
group D - Last/Rain
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1031 Posts
April 06 2019 19:20 GMT
#26
Finally, an easier group for snow,
an a harder one for rain

group A group of death

Stork is playing the 3 mu vs a specialist of every mu and hes out of shape = dead meat

GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
April 06 2019 21:10 GMT
#27
i hope tastosis boycott calling zero 'queen' ala eyewater/shuttle.
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Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
April 06 2019 21:40 GMT
#28
This is going to be awesome to watch. We are lucky to have so many good events going on.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5220 Posts
April 06 2019 22:39 GMT
#29
Woooow

basically the only matchup I'm not ecstatic about is Ample v Shine.

What the fuck is Grp D. Too bad I missed everyone of that group streaming their reaction to this outcome. There's a real possibility Stork or JD will go out 0-2. Stork starting w/ a PvP might be what gives him a chance to compete though.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5220 Posts
April 06 2019 22:40 GMT
#30
On April 07 2019 00:48 BisuDagger wrote:
Wow that sucks for rain and last. This tournament will be short for them.

That's the attitude!
The heart's eternal vow
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-06 23:57:49
April 06 2019 23:57 GMT
#31
Damn, group D. I hope Jaedong makes it out of the group. He's still really good these days but he's nowhere near as clutch as he was before 2011.I
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
April 07 2019 00:05 GMT
#32
On April 06 2019 19:50 iFU.pauline wrote:
Jaedong will demolish Rain, mark my word, he trains again and his fpvod are getting really brutal.


I'm sure JD would defeat Rain, thing is he might not even have the opportunity to play him.

I think Last should be able to defeat JD, Rain defeat Stork, JD defeat Stork in loser match, but Rain could beast last in winners match. That mean JD has to play Last, arguably the best player of the whole tournament twice in the Ro16. Can't believe how unlucky JD is as a player in general :|
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 07 2019 06:40 GMT
#33
On April 06 2019 21:55 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 18:30 bovienchien wrote:
I won't be surprise if the round of eight that has no Terran any players


Sharp definitely makes it out of his group and Last has a pretty good chance as long as his wrists don't explode

I hope you are right, but Zero is in fine form and Best is still a PvT monster.
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1689 Posts
April 07 2019 21:09 GMT
#34
WHAT THE FUCK IS GROUP D

fucksakes
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 07 2019 21:17 GMT
#35
go Jaedong!
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 07 2019 21:44 GMT
#36
Just a reminder that Stork is still really good at PvT taking games regularly off of Flash. Group D is super complicated. Can't wait.
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
April 07 2019 22:18 GMT
#37
Really hope my hero stork can get some decent results thing time around, but looking at his opponents I doubt it
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 07 2019 23:23 GMT
#38
Group D is obviously the most bomb group (come on JD you can get out of it) but A looks like it could deliver as well.

Stoked for another KSL!
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
April 08 2019 00:16 GMT
#39
holy group of DEATH. jesus group D is depressing to look at for those players.
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1689 Posts
April 08 2019 01:51 GMT
#40
On April 07 2019 04:20 TornadoSteve wrote:
Finally, an easier group for snow,
an a harder one for rain

group A group of death

Stork is playing the 3 mu vs a specialist of every mu and hes out of shape = dead meat



Group A is not the fucking group of death
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
April 08 2019 05:46 GMT
#41
group D wtf
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
April 08 2019 06:51 GMT
#42
Lol group D, champions of the past vs champions of current era. Has the current champions really taken over the scene? This is to be put to test.... Hahaha
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-08 08:01:41
April 08 2019 08:01 GMT
#43
On April 08 2019 15:51 weiliem wrote:
Lol group D, champions of the past vs champions of current era. Has the current champions really taken over the scene? This is to be put to test.... Hahaha


yes, thats why they're the current champions.
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
April 10 2019 01:51 GMT
#44
wow!!! crazy group D
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ArcadePlus
Profile Joined March 2012
United States44 Posts
April 10 2019 03:01 GMT
#45
Pulling hard for my boy ForGG but I think the cosmos are aligned against him. I've been watching his stream and I think he 2facts against protoss probably.... every game lol? He usually wins with it but that kind of practice isn't going to help you if Mini KNOWS it's coming. And I don't think this map pool is especially good for 2fact anyway.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
April 10 2019 04:43 GMT
#46
All I want is for JD to make it through.

Grah what a sick group. Hopefully Stork's pvp doesn't screw us. Rain vs Last rematch would be great.
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
April 11 2019 19:16 GMT
#47
Anyone know the starting maps and how the subsequent ones are decided?
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
April 12 2019 02:52 GMT
#48
I'm curious about what you guys think about the format for the KSL. From what I can gather, they play double-elim in the group stages bo5, and then bo7 in the semis and finals.I think this is a fantastic format - even if it was bo3 in the group stages I would've been happy.

Whereas in the ASL, they play double-elim bo1 in the group stages and then bo5 for the playoffs. I'm curious why they don't play at least bo3 in the group stages for the ASL??
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
April 12 2019 03:49 GMT
#49
Stork PvP
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
April 12 2019 03:58 GMT
#50
On April 12 2019 11:52 Azzur wrote:
I'm curious about what you guys think about the format for the KSL. From what I can gather, they play double-elim in the group stages bo5, and then bo7 in the semis and finals.I think this is a fantastic format - even if it was bo3 in the group stages I would've been happy.

Whereas in the ASL, they play double-elim bo1 in the group stages and then bo5 for the playoffs. I'm curious why they don't play at least bo3 in the group stages for the ASL??


I think running time and player stamina would probably be a key issue there. If they did Bo3s you'd need 10-15 games to decide a group and that means you'd have to split it into multiple nights like KSL - expecting somebody to play potentially up to 9 games of a matchup like TvT or TvZ would have diminishing returns on the quality of the games due to player fatigue. However, it would be harder to split up because KSL has the nice even system of AvB/CvD one night, Winners and Losers another and then 2x final bo5 on another night. If you try to start splitting up Bo3s you'd end up with a bit of an uneven schedule. You could do 3 bo3s in one night, then 2 on another or something maybe. I agree though that the bo1 format can be frustrating when you see a better player knocked out or have a very short night of dull games

I wouldn't mind seeing a compromise group stage where only the winners and final games as bo3s while the rest were bo1s. It would mean the much weaker players would be eliminated quickly and you wouldn't have to sit through a very one sided series while at the same time make it a bit harder for the good players to be eliminated by cheese plays designed to win bo1s.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
April 12 2019 05:04 GMT
#51
On April 12 2019 12:58 Wonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2019 11:52 Azzur wrote:
I'm curious about what you guys think about the format for the KSL. From what I can gather, they play double-elim in the group stages bo5, and then bo7 in the semis and finals.I think this is a fantastic format - even if it was bo3 in the group stages I would've been happy.

Whereas in the ASL, they play double-elim bo1 in the group stages and then bo5 for the playoffs. I'm curious why they don't play at least bo3 in the group stages for the ASL??


I think running time and player stamina would probably be a key issue there. If they did Bo3s you'd need 10-15 games to decide a group and that means you'd have to split it into multiple nights like KSL - expecting somebody to play potentially up to 9 games of a matchup like TvT or TvZ would have diminishing returns on the quality of the games due to player fatigue. However, it would be harder to split up because KSL has the nice even system of AvB/CvD one night, Winners and Losers another and then 2x final bo5 on another night. If you try to start splitting up Bo3s you'd end up with a bit of an uneven schedule. You could do 3 bo3s in one night, then 2 on another or something maybe. I agree though that the bo1 format can be frustrating when you see a better player knocked out or have a very short night of dull games

I wouldn't mind seeing a compromise group stage where only the winners and final games as bo3s while the rest were bo1s. It would mean the much weaker players would be eliminated quickly and you wouldn't have to sit through a very one sided series while at the same time make it a bit harder for the good players to be eliminated by cheese plays designed to win bo1s.

Yeah, I'm not suggesting that they finish the group all in one night. Something like what KSL is doing or even if they hold multiple groups in one night.

Thus, it could be AvB/CvD from Group1 & Group2 in night one, and then winners/losers for both groups in another night.

The deciders for all Groups1-4 can be all done in a night.

The main point in my opinion is that I feel that bo1 group stage is not ideal.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 12 2019 07:39 GMT
#52
was this group selection ? is that a joke ? xD
group d could be the top4 xD
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 12 2019 07:43 GMT
#53
On April 12 2019 16:39 Drake wrote:
was this group selection ? is that a joke ? xD
group d could be the top4 xD


its star studded for sure, but jaedong and stork making top 4 is a stretch.
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
April 12 2019 08:31 GMT
#54
On April 12 2019 16:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2019 16:39 Drake wrote:
was this group selection ? is that a joke ? xD
group d could be the top4 xD


its star studded for sure, but jaedong and stork making top 4 is a stretch.


shhh, i've spoken to my uncle at blizzard and he says they've already decided the trophy is going to JD, this is all part of a master plan that culminates in the announcement of sc3
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 12 2019 08:33 GMT
#55
your argument is wonky at best there.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
April 12 2019 08:58 GMT
#56
On April 12 2019 11:52 Azzur wrote:
I'm curious about what you guys think about the format for the KSL. From what I can gather, they play double-elim in the group stages bo5, and then bo7 in the semis and finals.I think this is a fantastic format - even if it was bo3 in the group stages I would've been happy.

Whereas in the ASL, they play double-elim bo1 in the group stages and then bo5 for the playoffs. I'm curious why they don't play at least bo3 in the group stages for the ASL??

KSL has a way better format. Maybe a bo5 is a bit of a stretch, bo3 would suffice I think, but it's for sure better than a bo1. I wish ASL had the old OSL format for groups and then a bo5 for every game of play-offs, except for the finals which should be a bo7.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 12 2019 12:42 GMT
#57
Bo5 is appropriate for BW, maps are a pain to prepare for, especially when its loser's pick like it is in KSL, theres a reason why Afreeca does the things it does and its not just tradition.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 12 2019 14:54 GMT
#58
Can't get excited enough for Group D. FlaSh still not participating, it's been long, hope his wrists are OK. I mean, if Last and JD can qualify, why can't the God himself.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 12 2019 16:40 GMT
#59
he registered for qualifiers and no-showed
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InmateNextdoor
Profile Joined November 2017
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-13 04:20:46
April 13 2019 04:15 GMT
#60
Poll: Who will be the KSL season 3 champion?

JD (3)
 
21%

Last (2)
 
14%

Sharp (2)
 
14%

Rain (2)
 
14%

Mini (1)
 
7%

Soulkey (1)
 
7%

Snow (1)
 
7%

Forgg (1)
 
7%

Zero (1)
 
7%

Best (0)
 
0%

Shine (0)
 
0%

Stork (0)
 
0%

Action (0)
 
0%

MisO (0)
 
0%

Ample (0)
 
0%

Modesty (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Who will be the KSL season 3 champion?

(Vote): Last
(Vote): Sharp
(Vote): Mini
(Vote): Rain
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Best
(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Shine
(Vote): JD
(Vote): Stork
(Vote): Action
(Vote): Forgg
(Vote): MisO
(Vote): Ample
(Vote): Zero
(Vote): Modesty


siegetank7
Profile Joined April 2019
23 Posts
April 13 2019 04:24 GMT
#61
pretty easy ro16 to predict, mini/soulkey, queen/sharp, snow/miso, last/jd probably make the ro8. rain is the only curveball in the groups. anyone know of amples aka or other names, if he isn't supposed to surprise I cant see any other ro8.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-13 04:50:03
April 13 2019 04:48 GMT
#62
Ample is Sasin. Last will probably advance but remember Stork and Rain are PvT monsters. Last has even been knocked out in an ASL by Stork’s killer macro.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1031 Posts
April 13 2019 08:12 GMT
#63
On April 13 2019 13:24 siegetank7 wrote:
pretty easy ro16 to predict, mini/soulkey, queen/sharp, snow/miso, last/jd probably make the ro8. rain is the only curveball in the groups. anyone know of amples aka or other names, if he isn't supposed to surprise I cant see any other ro8.


I think Best has better chances than Sharp,
MisO is a clear underdog against Shine in zvz,
ASL 6 wildcard (iirc?) actioN vs Mini was one of the best PvZ ive watched last year, actioN can always pull out a win, especially against Mini imo.
As much as i root for JD, i think his best shot is if Last win against Rain in the winners match. Otherwise, hell die twice to Last
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
April 13 2019 15:18 GMT
#64
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keithatron
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States7 Posts
April 13 2019 15:55 GMT
#65
Im visiting korea at this time and want to watch some games but dont know how to buy tickets. I found a site to but its in korean....can i just buy them in person when i get there?? Thanks help
Pain is weakness leaving the body
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 13 2019 16:18 GMT
#66
On April 14 2019 00:55 keithatron wrote:
Im visiting korea at this time and want to watch some games but dont know how to buy tickets. I found a site to but its in korean....can i just buy them in person when i get there?? Thanks help


I think you should be able to buy there in person, although don't quote me on that, the location is new so we don't know the established rules.
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GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
April 13 2019 19:49 GMT
#67
If people actually believe that Jaedong is going to beat Last, they must have some information the rest of us don't have... Last just won the ASL guys. Let me repeat that, Last just finished winning the ASL. His play is unbelievably strong right now. Don't talk to me about his wrists. If Jaedong makes it out over Rain even, I would be very surprised. (I love you Jaedong, but come on man... I see your stream.)

People are still sleeping on Snow, after all that has happened recently... He is the strongest player in group B by far. Only, Shine has that mysterious quality that can allow him to win games against even the most formidable opponents. I hope Miso comes more prepared than he was for Calm in the ASL.

Mini vs Action? Yes, please. Best vs Zero? Aye sir, PvZ it is sir. May I have some more sir?
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
April 18 2019 06:44 GMT
#68
Lol poor action. Worst possible first match draw.
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
April 18 2019 07:40 GMT
#69
On April 14 2019 04:49 GunSlinger wrote:
If people actually believe that Jaedong is going to beat Last, they must have some information the rest of us don't have... Last just won the ASL guys. Let me repeat that, Last just finished winning the ASL. His play is unbelievably strong right now. Don't talk to me about his wrists. If Jaedong makes it out over Rain even, I would be very surprised. (I love you Jaedong, but come on man... I see your stream.)

It's a little known TL rule that you have to criminally underrate Last and Sharp.

Speaking of, post reported.
The original Bogus fan.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 18 2019 10:14 GMT
#70
On April 06 2019 22:50 Ej_ wrote:
A and C seem stacked compared to the other 2. B especially looks weak.


are u joking ?
d is maybe the hardest group i ever saw of all groups of death ever, how can u say a and c are stacked against d
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
April 18 2019 10:40 GMT
#71
On April 18 2019 19:14 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 22:50 Ej_ wrote:
A and C seem stacked compared to the other 2. B especially looks weak.


are u joking ?
d is maybe the hardest group i ever saw of all groups of death ever, how can u say a and c are stacked against d

As much as it pains me to say, someone could argue that Stork and JD are the two weakest qualified players and be believable about it.
The original Bogus fan.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1031 Posts
April 19 2019 13:13 GMT
#72
On April 13 2019 13:24 siegetank7 wrote:
pretty easy ro16 to predict, mini/soulkey, queen/sharp, snow/miso, last/jd probably make the ro8. rain is the only curveball in the groups. anyone know of amples aka or other names, if he isn't supposed to surprise I cant see any other ro8.


en route to scoop the whole thing mate
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 19 2019 13:36 GMT
#73
On April 19 2019 22:13 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2019 13:24 siegetank7 wrote:
pretty easy ro16 to predict, mini/soulkey, queen/sharp, snow/miso, last/jd probably make the ro8. rain is the only curveball in the groups. anyone know of amples aka or other names, if he isn't supposed to surprise I cant see any other ro8.


en route to scoop the whole thing mate

They got us all fooled.

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