Boxer Goliath vs Savior Mutal

On May 10 2007 12:40 gameguard wrote:
I would think mutalisk attack would help more than armor in fighting gols. Am I wrong?

On May 10 2007 13:15 il0seonpurpose wrote:
thanks, dude that was good goliath micro, too bad he lost

On May 10 2007 13:21 SCNewb wrote:

what do u mean he lost? -_-

On May 10 2007 13:22 Storchen wrote:


the game maybe?

Pimp move by boxer.

Posing with girls, must have been exciting for them nerds

On May 10 2007 16:22 thedeadhaji wrote:
who's the creator of the first pic? =O

On May 10 2007 16:22 thedeadhaji wrote:
who's the creator of the first pic? =O

On May 10 2007 13:22 Storchen wrote:


the game maybe?

Pimp move by boxer.

Posing with girls, must have been exciting for them nerds

On May 10 2007 16:25 Jyvblamo wrote:


Phun Dinh Dung.

Atleast, according to the name of the img.

On May 10 2007 19:19 MaZza[KIS] wrote:


You know what... I"m siuck of comments like this.

They're not nerds just because they play a computer game. The level of skill, knoweldge and brainpower required to play starcraft makes them extrodinary.

A nerd (in sc terms) is someone like Idra (no offence.. nothing against Idra). He works his but off COPYING other peoples builds and things and when he wins he BM's. That's nerd. Nerd is when you're using a game to "escape from reality and social inadequacy". There's nothing nerdy about these guys coz they're probably PIMPS in rea life. From what I hear from Rekrul's stories most of them are. Please look up definition of nerd before you say stupid stuff like that.

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sorry for the rant everyone... maybe it was unwarranted.

Ownage battle scene pic and even more ownage micro ...

On May 10 2007 20:19 Gandalf wrote:
How are Starcraft pros nerds by the second definition? Or by any of those definitions?

They arent stupid, irritating or blah blah.

They arent obsessed with a nonsocial hobby or pursuit. Its a job, not a hobby. They make hundreds of thousands of dollars off it.

And who says they are socially inept?

On May 10 2007 13:24 Jyvblamo wrote:


He didn't lose the game, but his team did lose the match.

On May 10 2007 20:47 il0seonpurpose wrote:




are u sure he won that game?

On May 10 2007 19:59 boghat wrote:

This weird, pathetic attempt to define what a nerd is makes you a huge mega nerd. OWNED.^.GG.^.

But seriously dude if you actually want an argument:

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
nerd –noun Slang.
1. a stupid, irritating, ineffectual, or unattractive person.
2. an intelligent but single-minded person obsessed with a nonsocial hobby or pursuit: a computer nerd.

American Heritage Dictionary -
nerd also nurd (nûrd) n. Slang
1. A foolish, inept, or unattractive person.
2. A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

Starcraft pros are definitely nerds by the second definition. However, the second definition doesn't imply any negativity (except for the socially inept part which is debatable -Midas lol-) like the first one does so just because someone is labeled a nerd doesn't mean it has to have a bad connotation to it.

The fact that I took the time to make this post probably makes me a nerd also somehow but I'm okay with it ~_~

On May 10 2007 20:46 boghat wrote:

I never said the first definition applied to them at all.

They are most definitely single-minded and obsessed in what they do, spending hours and hours of practice a day playing starcraft.

I never said they are socially inept. I said it was debatable, which means plenty of them are and plenty of them aren't but if all you do almost every single day is practice, eat, and sleep then you will probably be a bit socially inept, or at least more so than most people.

Starcraft is most definitely a nonsocial activity. You are practicing and playing against others but this isn't using any social skills. Chatting with your teammates about strategy also doesn't help much with social skills. In fact if you want to be one of the best pros you better NOT have a girlfriend.

The argument that because Starcraft is a job and not just a hobby is somewhat arguable but the fact is almost none of them make much money from starcraft, let alone $100k+. Only the top players can make a good living off starcraft and the top players are probably some of the biggest "nerds" of them, i.e. they are more obsessed with the game and they spend less time on social activities like girlfriends and more time on practicing, which makes them the best.

But just because it is a payable job for some doesn't make them less of a nerd. Someone who writes computer programming 8 hours a day could probably be labeled a nerd too, even if he has a girlfriend or even a wife.

Like I said, being called a nerd isn't a bad thing, at least I don't think it is. People who socialize a lot and never get obsessed over certain things never do anything great. Nerds are who are remembered in the history books more often than not.

edit: If you want to say Starcraft is not a hobby that's fine, but it's definitely a pursuit, which is part of the definition.

On May 10 2007 20:46 boghat wrote:

I never said the first definition applied to them at all.

They are most definitely single-minded and obsessed in what they do, spending hours and hours of practice a day playing starcraft.

I never said they are socially inept. I said it was debatable, which means plenty of them are and plenty of them aren't but if all you do almost every single day is practice, eat, and sleep then you will probably be a bit socially inept, or at least more so than most people.

Starcraft is most definitely a nonsocial activity. You are practicing and playing against others but this isn't using any social skills. Chatting with your teammates about strategy also doesn't help much with social skills. In fact if you want to be one of the best pros you better NOT have a girlfriend.

The argument that because Starcraft is a job and not just a hobby is somewhat arguable but the fact is almost none of them make much money from starcraft, let alone $100k+. Only the top players can make a good living off starcraft and the top players are probably some of the biggest "nerds" of them, i.e. they are more obsessed with the game and they spend less time on social activities like girlfriends and more time on practicing, which makes them the best.

But just because it is a payable job for some doesn't make them less of a nerd. Someone who writes computer programming 8 hours a day could probably be labeled a nerd too, even if he has a girlfriend or even a wife.

Like I said, being called a nerd isn't a bad thing, at least I don't think it is. People who socialize a lot and never get obsessed over certain things never do anything great. Nerds are who are remembered in the history books more often than not.

edit: If you want to say Starcraft is not a hobby that's fine, but it's definitely a pursuit, which is part of the definition.

On May 10 2007 21:07 MaZza[KIS] wrote:


ROFL.. Missed this.

I know plenty of ppl who are programmers that don't even TOUCH computers at home. It seems to me that you definition of nerd is IN FACT computer nerd. And your definition of computer nerd is ANYONE who spends excessive amounts of time on the computer. But that's simply not true. If it was then the whole world would be nerds because they have obsessions with mobile phones, phones (on general), TVs. Hell.. everyone who uses anything to excess is a nerd.

In fact, sir, your warped sense of what a nerd is is shaped by a stereotype of the genuine computer geek, which none of these guys are. Please... save yourself further embaressment.

On May 10 2007 19:59 boghat wrote:

This weird, pathetic attempt to define what a nerd is makes you a huge mega nerd. OWNED.^.GG.^.

But seriously dude if you actually want an argument:

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
nerd –noun Slang.
1. a stupid, irritating, ineffectual, or unattractive person.
2. an intelligent but single-minded person obsessed with a nonsocial hobby or pursuit: a computer nerd.

American Heritage Dictionary -
nerd also nurd (nûrd) n. Slang
1. A foolish, inept, or unattractive person.
2. A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

Starcraft pros are definitely nerds by the second definition. However, the second definition doesn't imply any negativity (except for the socially inept part which is debatable -Midas lol-) like the first one does so just because someone is labeled a nerd doesn't mean it has to have a bad connotation to it.

The fact that I took the time to make this post probably makes me a nerd also somehow but I'm okay with it ~_~

On May 10 2007 20:46 boghat wrote:

I never said the first definition applied to them at all.

They are most definitely single-minded and obsessed in what they do, spending hours and hours of practice a day playing starcraft.

I never said they are socially inept. I said it was debatable, which means plenty of them are and plenty of them aren't but if all you do almost every single day is practice, eat, and sleep then you will probably be a bit socially inept, or at least more so than most people.

On May 10 2007 12:47 OMFGlearntoplay wrote:
I'm sure this is old info, but what is the best key command to "step and fire" with gols or goons?

1. Right click to the correct spot (don't think so because your men wouldn't stay in formation).
2. Right click beyond where you want to go, then press S. Don't think that's is because there is a pause when you hit S (Stop).
3. Right click beyond, then press P (patrol). Possible.
4. Right click beyond, then press A (attack). Possible, but I understand that P works better for air units (all air units??).

On May 10 2007 19:59 boghat wrote:

This weird, pathetic attempt to define what a nerd is makes you a huge mega nerd. OWNED.^.GG.^.

But seriously dude if you actually want an argument:

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
nerd –noun Slang.
1. a stupid, irritating, ineffectual, or unattractive person.
2. an intelligent but single-minded person obsessed with a nonsocial hobby or pursuit: a computer nerd.

American Heritage Dictionary -
nerd also nurd (nûrd) n. Slang
1. A foolish, inept, or unattractive person.
2. A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

Starcraft pros are definitely nerds by the second definition. However, the second definition doesn't imply any negativity (except for the socially inept part which is debatable -Midas lol-) like the first one does so just because someone is labeled a nerd doesn't mean it has to have a bad connotation to it.

The fact that I took the time to make this post probably makes me a nerd also somehow but I'm okay with it ~_~

On May 10 2007 22:29 LastRomantic wrote:
can't get girls?

BoxeR/Reach/YellOw I'm sure have 100% success rate -_-; maybe a few others.

can't maintain relationships?

GORILLA OOV has a girlfriend; they've been together for awhile.

On May 10 2007 22:37 boghat wrote:
If you're being sarcastic WhatisProtoss, I said in my other posts that there is nothing wrong with being a nerd. I also never said they couldn't get girls, but I think it definitely might hurt their career if they let their girlfriends get in the way of their practicing. Unless they get cool girlfriends that let them practice all that time every day and don't bitch about it, in which case they probably have a pretty sweet life going.

On May 10 2007 22:44 LastRomantic wrote:
as of WCG he had a girlfriend. According to... himself. Maybe he was delusional :x but they have pictures.

Not sure of now.

On May 10 2007 21:51 boghat wrote:
I see your point but who is a nerd then?

On May 10 2007 23:04 dropthesky wrote:


maybe we should stop trying to label people.

On May 10 2007 22:23 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Basic Guide to Microing Land Units:
1. Click away from the attacking unit.
2. Click attack, and hit anywhere. If the attacking unit is far out of range, then your unit will simply move to the place you attack-moved to.

On May 10 2007 22:23 WhatisProtoss wrote:

-_-;;

Basic Guide to Microing Land Units:
1. Click away from the attacking unit.
2. Click attack, and hit anywhere. If the attacking unit is far out of range, then your unit will simply move to the place you attack-moved to.

Usually moving away and right-clicking on the attacking unit is not a good plan. If you misclick, your unit will move towards the attacker without doing anything. And your cursor has to move a longer distance. I just like to pull back, then hit attack-move to the same exact spot. I don't have to move my cursor and only have to press the "A" key.

On May 11 2007 02:05 lololol wrote:


The Patrol command makes units react faster than attack, so you should use that instead.

On May 11 2007 02:48 WhatisProtoss wrote:

Wrong. That only works for vultures, since their cooldown rate for patrol is half that of it's attack-move.

Patrol move won't work well for dragoons or goliaths, which was what this guy asked for.

On May 11 2007 08:38 Brutalisk wrote:
I wonder why Savior upgraded muta armor instead of attack.. is armor really better vs. goliaths? I'd have gone for attack... +1 armor means 1 damage done less (but focus firing with many gols on 1 muta still kills it), but +1 attack means 10-4-2 damage instead of 9-3-1...

On May 06 2007 09:10 SonuvBob wrote:
2007-05-05 Dream Match - FPVODs

Game 1 - Boxer POV
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Game 2 - Boxer POV
Part 1 | Part 2

Game 3 - Boxer POV
Part 1 | Part 2


Game 1 - sAviOr POV
Part 1 | Part 2

Game 2 - sAviOr POV
Part 1 | Part 2

Game 3 - sAviOr POV
Part 1 | Part 2

On May 11 2007 15:34 RaiZ wrote:


No. Actually i don't know if it works like it but do you know that mutas +1 defense is clearly way better than mutas +1 attack in Mutas vs Mutas fight ?
Because the mutas do 10-3-1 instead of 10-4-2 and the defense get only 8-2-0.5 from 0/0 muta. which mean that they get 9/2/0.5 from +1 attack mutas.

You need to know that mutalisk's attack doesn't upgrade the bounce damage. Or do they ?


I may not be as good as them but i do know that savior has either understimated boxer or lacked experience against goliaths fights... I mean mutas only against goliats ? It's pure suicide.
Would work better if he switched his 12 mutas at least to 12 hydras since they do somewhat more damage to mech units (need confirmation though) and while the mutas get hits by the goliats behind the front line that leave hydras to not take full damage from goliats because they'd be aiming the mutas with their upgraded range missile.
I'd not be surprised if goliats without range would work better against the mutal/hydra combo, funny eh ? :o)

On May 11 2007 03:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
sick

On May 10 2007 21:51 boghat wrote:
I see your point but who is a nerd then?

On May 13 2007 19:35 I_are_n00b wrote:
Is everyone offended by the term nerd or something? It's just like the term jock for athletes. Oh, you can give a billion examples of how this athlete did so and so, but it doesn't matter. He's classified as a jock. He might also be classified as something else, but it doesn't make him any less of a jock. It is a slang term we use to classify people. Saying that these guys are socially inept is probably wrong.... now. But to say that these guys weren't nerds to begin with is silly. I'm sure Reach, Yellow and even Boxer were huge nerds before starcraft got off the ground. I'm not saying they were socially inept, but I'm saying they were nerds. That's why we come up with slang (and a big reason for ebonics) isn't it? We express ideas that aren't exactly in the dictionaries, and through one word that can convey a complex definition.

A nerd doesn't mean someone that does computers are whatever. It probably originally meant that this person devotes a lot of time in academics that usually involve math based things. However, computers and computer games came out of this culture and that's why they're nerds. There are also a lot of stuff that these nerds generally do or look like. So that's why "nerd" comes with a certain stigma too. Just because these guys today might not LOOK like nerds, doesn't make them any less a nerd. They're not jocks, they're not goths, they're not emos, they're nerds. Period.

On May 10 2007 22:27 WhatisProtoss wrote:

Wow....

Starcraft pros are definitely nerds by both definitions that you provided. They practice anywhere from 10-14 hours a day on a computer. They definitely don't have the social skills of a normal person who lives a normal life.

And they have the single-minded intent of playing Starcraft. Starcraft is a non-social game. Yes, progamers are nerds. What's wrong with calling them nerds? They can't get girls; they wouldn't be able to maintain a relationship without ruining their gaming career; they have little time to spend on how to have healthy social relationships.

On May 13 2007 18:47 MaZza[KIS] wrote:


no one is a nerd.

nerd is a label, with negative conotations, created to classify people. If you think it doesn't have negative conotations then you're kidding yourself.

Essentially, some faggot in High School (probably some football playing jock type) thought "hey.. these fags are smarter than me... there MUST be some way I can kill their self esteem while I'm in a position [popular enough] to do so".

Unfortunately [or fortunately if you're a nerd] the nerds grow up, get a social life (which they had the capacity to do anyways, it's just that they were busy studying and thinking of the future so they'll have a career/money) and the stupid fuck who used to call them nerd ends up working at walmart nursing a crack habit.

Nerd was made to put people down! Don't be put down. Work hard, believe and achieve. You can ALWAYS work on getting a social life. Fuck, it is so easy to meet people, become friends and go clubbing every week, i.e. "socialise". However, it's F*CKING hard to finish a good degree in a good university and get a good job. Trust me. Take it from someone who tried to shake the "nerd" tag and found that the people that call you nerd are so f*cking pathetic, insecure and feel so threatened that they'll do anything to get you off your game plan.

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Hell.. I'm at work... I have a government job, I'm paid lots of money and I have very little work to do. I MUST be a nerd. Such a hard life it is sitting on my arse all day, working out at the gym and going out on the weekends while the rest of my "cool" friends are labouring at construction sites on weekends to make ends meet. I am SUCH THE NERD.

And now.. maybe now you understand why I hate the word nerd. Because to me, nerd doesn't mean "social ineptitude" or "lone loser". It means "guy who is temporarily sacrificing his social status to get ahead in life". And most people don't interpret it that way and misuse the term to hurt people.

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On April 26 2012 22:22 MasterReY wrote:
so does someone still have the video or a working link? :O

On April 27 2012 01:04 Demonhunter04 wrote:


I saw this VOD years ago :o. Why didn't BoxeR go valiath instead of pure goliath?

On April 27 2012 03:05 mizU wrote:
wtf is nada wearing O.O