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BlizzCon Showmatch Voting - Page 22

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Polls have concluded. Thank you to everyone that voted!

The 2 players that were voted into BlizzCon are:
(Z)Jaedong
(P)Bisu
00jknight
Profile Joined October 2017
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 03:24:42
November 04 2017 03:23 GMT
#421
Jaedong looks pretty sad to be honest.
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
November 04 2017 03:25 GMT
#422
On November 04 2017 12:20 Ender2701 wrote:
Why did JD keep all inning? I wish they'd play more macro games, it's not that fun to watch so many early game wins.


He said in an interview that he has serious problems with his wrists, eyes and back when playing sc, so i guess he just had too much pain to go for 5 super long games.

End of an era though, GG WP Jaedong, thx for all the years!
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2070 Posts
November 04 2017 04:02 GMT
#423
Was so excited that there were 2 TBLS series this week. But they both turned out so disappointing
Oppa feeding style
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10131 Posts
November 04 2017 06:35 GMT
#424
Jaedong looks like hes aged 30 years... i hope he finds happiness in his life again. Maybe he needs a girlfriend if he doesnt have one yet.
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wishbonesaka
Profile Joined June 2016
Canada117 Posts
November 04 2017 06:40 GMT
#425
remember!

legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
November 04 2017 10:15 GMT
#426
JD wrists are totally shot. I don't know how to feel. All the CTE talk is making me feel uncomfortable when i watch NFL games. Now, i have to think about Jaedong being hand-fed when he's forty because of his fucked up wrists.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 04 2017 11:10 GMT
#427
On November 04 2017 15:40 wishbonesaka wrote:
remember!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH7oFgi7_1Q

Bisu has always crushed Jaedong.
I hope they are both in top form next week!
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6547 Posts
November 04 2017 11:14 GMT
#428
why next week?
truth_seeker
Profile Joined October 2017
13 Posts
November 04 2017 12:28 GMT
#429
On November 04 2017 19:15 legaton wrote:
JD wrists are totally shot. I don't know how to feel. All the CTE talk is making me feel uncomfortable when i watch NFL games. Now, i have to think about Jaedong being hand-fed when he's forty because of his fucked up wrists.


I always feel people are exaggerating when they are talking about how bad Jaedong's health is.

I mean, he is still sustaining an average of 300-350 APM over the span of 5 rounds. I find it hard to imagine how someone who is able to do this is a couple of years away from being in a wheelchair and being spoonfed.

Sure, his current condition might not allow him to keep being competitive at the highest level but I do not think this means his wrist health is as severe as many people think it is.
truth_seeker
Profile Joined October 2017
13 Posts
November 04 2017 12:58 GMT
#430
Jaedong's decision making in the last round...after a really surprising comeback from 0-2 in front of one of your most revered match up and opponent and being literally a win away from 25k dollars and possibly your last big match ever, he goes for the mass ling rush while knowing Bisu had already had knowledge of his plan after being scouted and he was already walled in.

This was the riskiest and all in play possible and he was not under any pressure at that moment because it was clearly Bisu was intending to go for the macro game...


I have never seen Jaedong looking more miserable that last night...I have grown up watching Jaedong in his prime on Youtube. My teenage years were really confusing, stressful and depressing and BW was one of the very few things that were helping me keep it together during those times. Watching Jaedong pull the stuff he was pulling back in the day gave me courage and made me feel that if you care enough about something and are really passionate about it, you can overcome adversity.

Now, I hope Jaedong will find happiness in his life after his gaming era. Thank you, sir.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
November 04 2017 14:06 GMT
#431
Does JD wear contacts? He really needs to wear glasses if he isn't already I feel. It'll help his eyes so much.
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tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
November 04 2017 14:13 GMT
#432
On November 04 2017 21:58 truth_seeker wrote:
I have grown up watching Jaedong in his prime on Youtube. My teenage years were really confusing, stressful and depressing and BW was one of the very few things that were helping me keep it together during those times. Watching Jaedong pull the stuff he was pulling back in the day gave me courage and made me feel that if you care enough about something and are really passionate about it, you can overcome adversity.

Now, I hope Jaedong will find happiness in his life after his gaming era. Thank you, sir.

Thank you for sharing my friend
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 14:24:02
November 04 2017 14:23 GMT
#433
On November 04 2017 21:28 truth_seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 19:15 legaton wrote:

Sure, his current condition might not allow him to keep being competitive at the highest level but I do not think this means his wrist health is as severe as many people think it is.



If you've never had these sorts of problems from over usage, or wearing down on your body through repetitive actions then I don't think you really have room to weigh in on the discussion. Some people reach the point that JD did much quicker, like Flash. He required quite intensive surgery for it. Others, like Bisu, play even faster yet never seem to have similar issues.

There are numerous other sports out there that really weigh down your wrists and the pain that accompanies it is actually a lot worse than you'd imagine. Basically, if you're not doing anything that replicates those motions you never notice it, and can even move past it as an issue, but if you move your body in that weigh you can really get a strong jolt of shock inducing pain.

Particularly, your spine, shoulder and wrist all seem to sort of wear away around the same times with prolonged actions these guys have.

It really is something that can range from minimal discomfort all the way to extensive surgery.

Do you really think JD, who has been stating many times over (basically even left EG/secretly practiced BW) that he wants to impress his Korean fans in BW is just making excuses for his poor performance?
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truth_seeker
Profile Joined October 2017
13 Posts
November 04 2017 14:52 GMT
#434
On November 04 2017 23:23 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 21:28 truth_seeker wrote:
On November 04 2017 19:15 legaton wrote:

Sure, his current condition might not allow him to keep being competitive at the highest level but I do not think this means his wrist health is as severe as many people think it is.



If you've never had these sorts of problems from over usage, or wearing down on your body through repetitive actions then I don't think you really have room to weigh in on the discussion. Some people reach the point that JD did much quicker, like Flash. He required quite intensive surgery for it. Others, like Bisu, play even faster yet never seem to have similar issues.

There are numerous other sports out there that really weigh down your wrists and the pain that accompanies it is actually a lot worse than you'd imagine. Basically, if you're not doing anything that replicates those motions you never notice it, and can even move past it as an issue, but if you move your body in that weigh you can really get a strong jolt of shock inducing pain.

Particularly, your spine, shoulder, and wrist all seem to sort of wear away around the same times with prolonged actions these guys have.

It really is something that can range from minimal discomfort all the way to extensive surgery.

Do you really think JD, who has been stating many times over (basically even left EG/secretly practiced BW) that he wants to impress his Korean fans in BW is just making excuses for his poor performance?


I was not trying at all to underestimate Jaedong's physical discomfort while playing.

I have ulnar nerve damage in my left hand. I know what playing in pain feels like. Everything above 250+ APM for more than 2-3 minutes results in my forearm contracting to the point that my fingers can barely move until the hand relaxes once again. The numbers Jaedong is touching are physically impossible for me to achieve.

My comment was addressed to those guys who keep saying that Jaedong's hands are compromised forever.

After all, you said it yourself...Flash's worn out even quicker and post-surgery he is still the strongest BW player. I don't know if Jaedong finds himself in the same position but all I was trying to call to attention is for people not to jump to apocalyptic conclusions this quickly.

niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
November 04 2017 21:27 GMT
#435
JD looks like he's in a really bad space phychologically... Like he could cry any second. I hope he surrounds himself with dear, reliable people and reinvents himself to enjoy life again :o
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1415 Posts
November 04 2017 21:50 GMT
#436
A fan made JD montage and is posted on official JD channel

NewbOnTheFloor
Profile Joined November 2013
Poland160 Posts
November 04 2017 23:01 GMT
#437
On November 05 2017 06:50 jinjin5000 wrote:
A fan made JD montage and is posted on official JD channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_47whVx8Is&feature=youtu.be


I dont understand Korean at all but I kinda get the message of the video...

I really enjoyed last "video" where Mind and Shuttle were recording and than JD and Killer joined...They all looked like a very good friends...JD and Killer looked like best buddies and I love it !
wabe.PrayHard
Profile Joined October 2011
Bolivia45 Posts
November 06 2017 15:04 GMT
#438
does anyone know how the match went? any vods?
the force is in prayer
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1762 Posts
November 06 2017 15:44 GMT
#439
On November 07 2017 00:04 wabe.PrayHard wrote:
does anyone know how the match went? any vods?


VOD: https://go.twitch.tv/videos/187639698
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