• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:30
CEST 19:30
KST 02:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 226ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Data needed Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11934 users

Information from Korea - Page 84

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 82 83 84 85 86 127 Next
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 14 2018 15:36 GMT
#1661
Killer hype!
Michael Probu
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10341 Posts
February 14 2018 16:03 GMT
#1662
Rain // Soukey please.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51094 Posts
February 14 2018 16:11 GMT
#1663
Rain vs Killer?

surely afreeca isn't biased towards Flash&Friends(this should be a clan)
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 16:37:06
February 14 2018 16:33 GMT
#1664
On February 13 2018 21:09 Freakling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 07:55 Cryoc wrote:
Maybe the island map makes it to the ASL, though I cannot imagine Zerg not dominating on this map. Zerg immediately gets 3 gas at the start of the game while T and P can only get 2 and the second gas only after they killed off the sunken. Plus there is even creep on every island except the middle one, so Zerg can take the whole map without even needing drop.

The main strat for Zerg is probably rushing to hive to take the whole map and getting hive air units to keep air control.

I am interested in what ZvZs would look like, since that map seems highly suitable for Hive ZvZ.

A quick, sad history of island maps in BW: There are of course the classics, usually only one starting base or one starting base with two geysers and a mineral only expansion (read: Paradoxx). Turns out (no surprise, just do the math!), that Shuttle Zealot into Shuttle Reaver (EDIT: Oh, and Corsairs, of course, which is the only think that Protoss actually needs to fork much gas into) into Carriers just dominates everything in this scenario.
In comes the "fix": Now there are cliffs everywhere where tanks can just kill an opponent for minimal investment (Gorky Island, Hall of Valhalla, Desert Fox – take your pick).
All the while Zerg simply starve to death, unable to grab an early expansion or two and get the gas economy that they so desperately need, and even more on Island maps where in addition to Mutalsisks and fast Hive, Ovi speed and drop are not optional.
So I guess overcompensation has reached its logical third and final phase now, where all the advantages are given to Zerg, before finally we can actually establish something that is fair for all races and an enrichment for the game/meta in general.
Hall of vallhalla is from 2001, paradox is from 2003, so is gorky. The history of island maps, basically, is: pure island maps as per blizzards initial release, like dire straits. Then they start making new ones like Space Odyssey, but just like dire straights theres only one quick gas. Pure island maps basically died out after the early 2000's, but some semi island maps continued on until the mid 2000's (dreams of balhae being the last decent classic semi island map made, which gave a quick second gas to zerg). Desert fox was 2006, but it was also a semi island map, just like most.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
February 14 2018 17:05 GMT
#1665
Modified maps can be downloaded now.

https://blog.naver.com/kangkuyol/221206946806
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 14 2018 17:10 GMT
#1666
Are therey any news as to whether Gold Rush/Crossing Fileds will be used in the main event?
Michael Probu
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1534 Posts
February 14 2018 18:09 GMT
#1667
On February 15 2018 01:33 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 21:09 Freakling wrote:
On February 13 2018 07:55 Cryoc wrote:
Maybe the island map makes it to the ASL, though I cannot imagine Zerg not dominating on this map. Zerg immediately gets 3 gas at the start of the game while T and P can only get 2 and the second gas only after they killed off the sunken. Plus there is even creep on every island except the middle one, so Zerg can take the whole map without even needing drop.

The main strat for Zerg is probably rushing to hive to take the whole map and getting hive air units to keep air control.

I am interested in what ZvZs would look like, since that map seems highly suitable for Hive ZvZ.

A quick, sad history of island maps in BW: There are of course the classics, usually only one starting base or one starting base with two geysers and a mineral only expansion (read: Paradoxx). Turns out (no surprise, just do the math!), that Shuttle Zealot into Shuttle Reaver (EDIT: Oh, and Corsairs, of course, which is the only think that Protoss actually needs to fork much gas into) into Carriers just dominates everything in this scenario.
In comes the "fix": Now there are cliffs everywhere where tanks can just kill an opponent for minimal investment (Gorky Island, Hall of Valhalla, Desert Fox – take your pick).
All the while Zerg simply starve to death, unable to grab an early expansion or two and get the gas economy that they so desperately need, and even more on Island maps where in addition to Mutalsisks and fast Hive, Ovi speed and drop are not optional.
So I guess overcompensation has reached its logical third and final phase now, where all the advantages are given to Zerg, before finally we can actually establish something that is fair for all races and an enrichment for the game/meta in general.
Hall of vallhalla is from 2001, paradox is from 2003, so is gorky. The history of island maps, basically, is: pure island maps as per blizzards initial release, like dire straits. Then they start making new ones like Space Odyssey, but just like dire straights theres only one quick gas. Pure island maps basically died out after the early 2000's, but some semi island maps continued on until the mid 2000's (dreams of balhae being the last decent classic semi island map made, which gave a quick second gas to zerg). Desert fox was 2006, but it was also a semi island map, just like most.
Dream of Balhae also falls into the purposely tank imba category, though.


On February 15 2018 02:05 K.H.J wrote:
Modified maps can be downloaded now.

https://blog.naver.com/kangkuyol/221206946806

Changelog?
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 14 2018 19:31 GMT
#1668
>2/21 13:00 KST
That's too bad.
The heart's eternal vow
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
February 17 2018 11:37 GMT
#1669
[image loading]

Flash visited Bisu's barrack.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
February 17 2018 12:43 GMT
#1670
Almost looks like the man on the right is flipping off the camera.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 17 2018 12:51 GMT
#1671
It's Flash's dad hahaha
Michael Probu
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
February 17 2018 13:06 GMT
#1672
Oh, was thinking where I saw that old man's face of course it's Pa Flash.
sunbeams are never made like me...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51638 Posts
February 17 2018 23:39 GMT
#1673
is flash's dad such a bisu fan he went with his son to see him? lmao
Commentator
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-17 23:43:31
February 17 2018 23:42 GMT
#1674
On February 18 2018 08:39 GTR wrote:
is flash's dad such a bisu fan he went with his son to see him? lmao


Maybe Flash's dad owns a car and drove Flash to the barracks? I wouldn't be surprised if many of the parents know each other.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina246 Posts
February 18 2018 03:09 GMT
#1675
On February 14 2018 13:20 PorkSoda wrote:
Could scouts finally have a place in 1v1?


No
Standard Queens
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 18 2018 04:12 GMT
#1676
bisu is gonna come back and tear apart everyone. cuz that's when flash and him trade places. i await my new toss overlord
sntct
Profile Joined February 2018
100 Posts
February 18 2018 18:11 GMT
#1677
On February 15 2018 02:05 K.H.J wrote:
Modified maps can be downloaded now.

https://blog.naver.com/kangkuyol/221206946806


Visited the site. Where is the map DL button?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-18 19:16:38
February 18 2018 19:15 GMT
#1678
On February 18 2018 08:42 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2018 08:39 GTR wrote:
is flash's dad such a bisu fan he went with his son to see him? lmao


Maybe Flash's dad owns a car and drove Flash to the barracks? I wouldn't be surprised if many of the parents know each other.

I was actually thinking the same thing. Maybe the barracks is in a place kind of hard to get to with just public transportation and with the impression I get of Flash I don't think he would know how to drive so his dad drove him there.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Altay
Profile Joined January 2018
31 Posts
February 18 2018 19:45 GMT
#1679
On February 19 2018 04:15 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2018 08:42 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On February 18 2018 08:39 GTR wrote:
is flash's dad such a bisu fan he went with his son to see him? lmao


Maybe Flash's dad owns a car and drove Flash to the barracks? I wouldn't be surprised if many of the parents know each other.

I was actually thinking the same thing. Maybe the barracks is in a place kind of hard to get to with just public transportation and with the impression I get of Flash I don't think he would know how to drive so his dad drove him there.


and they had a quick TVP on matchpoint tethering two laptops to his dad's iphone hotspot. Bisu won using proxy gates.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-19 00:06:11
February 19 2018 00:06 GMT
#1680
Flash's father with the backwards V flipping everyone off, golden lmao.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Prev 1 82 83 84 85 86 127 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 30m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 3000
BRAT_OK 46
RushiSC 42
elazer 31
MindelVK 12
FoxeR 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3331
Shuttle 2122
Jaedong 2002
Mini 648
EffOrt 524
Soma 471
Larva 218
Snow 188
actioN 187
BeSt 161
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 144
Rush 139
Dewaltoss 135
hero 112
ggaemo 109
Free 52
sorry 40
Hyun 37
scan(afreeca) 33
Rock 22
Sharp 19
Shine 18
Terrorterran 16
HiyA 14
Purpose 8
Bale 8
Dota 2
Gorgc8393
qojqva1508
Dendi886
Counter-Strike
fl0m1340
x6flipin566
byalli425
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King138
Other Games
FrodaN1610
Grubby381
C9.Mang0206
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick35514
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile131
• Reevou 3
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV329
League of Legends
• Nemesis3593
• TFBlade862
Other Games
• imaqtpie9
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
15h 30m
CrankTV Team League
17h 30m
OSC
23h 30m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
CrankTV Team League
1d 17h
OSC
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.