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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 14 2018 15:36 GMT
#1661
Killer hype!
Michael Probu
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10321 Posts
February 14 2018 16:03 GMT
#1662
Rain // Soukey please.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50978 Posts
February 14 2018 16:11 GMT
#1663
Rain vs Killer?

surely afreeca isn't biased towards Flash&Friends(this should be a clan)
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-14 16:37:06
February 14 2018 16:33 GMT
#1664
On February 13 2018 21:09 Freakling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 07:55 Cryoc wrote:
Maybe the island map makes it to the ASL, though I cannot imagine Zerg not dominating on this map. Zerg immediately gets 3 gas at the start of the game while T and P can only get 2 and the second gas only after they killed off the sunken. Plus there is even creep on every island except the middle one, so Zerg can take the whole map without even needing drop.

The main strat for Zerg is probably rushing to hive to take the whole map and getting hive air units to keep air control.

I am interested in what ZvZs would look like, since that map seems highly suitable for Hive ZvZ.

A quick, sad history of island maps in BW: There are of course the classics, usually only one starting base or one starting base with two geysers and a mineral only expansion (read: Paradoxx). Turns out (no surprise, just do the math!), that Shuttle Zealot into Shuttle Reaver (EDIT: Oh, and Corsairs, of course, which is the only think that Protoss actually needs to fork much gas into) into Carriers just dominates everything in this scenario.
In comes the "fix": Now there are cliffs everywhere where tanks can just kill an opponent for minimal investment (Gorky Island, Hall of Valhalla, Desert Fox – take your pick).
All the while Zerg simply starve to death, unable to grab an early expansion or two and get the gas economy that they so desperately need, and even more on Island maps where in addition to Mutalsisks and fast Hive, Ovi speed and drop are not optional.
So I guess overcompensation has reached its logical third and final phase now, where all the advantages are given to Zerg, before finally we can actually establish something that is fair for all races and an enrichment for the game/meta in general.
Hall of vallhalla is from 2001, paradox is from 2003, so is gorky. The history of island maps, basically, is: pure island maps as per blizzards initial release, like dire straits. Then they start making new ones like Space Odyssey, but just like dire straights theres only one quick gas. Pure island maps basically died out after the early 2000's, but some semi island maps continued on until the mid 2000's (dreams of balhae being the last decent classic semi island map made, which gave a quick second gas to zerg). Desert fox was 2006, but it was also a semi island map, just like most.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
February 14 2018 17:05 GMT
#1665
Modified maps can be downloaded now.

https://blog.naver.com/kangkuyol/221206946806
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 14 2018 17:10 GMT
#1666
Are therey any news as to whether Gold Rush/Crossing Fileds will be used in the main event?
Michael Probu
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1533 Posts
February 14 2018 18:09 GMT
#1667
On February 15 2018 01:33 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 21:09 Freakling wrote:
On February 13 2018 07:55 Cryoc wrote:
Maybe the island map makes it to the ASL, though I cannot imagine Zerg not dominating on this map. Zerg immediately gets 3 gas at the start of the game while T and P can only get 2 and the second gas only after they killed off the sunken. Plus there is even creep on every island except the middle one, so Zerg can take the whole map without even needing drop.

The main strat for Zerg is probably rushing to hive to take the whole map and getting hive air units to keep air control.

I am interested in what ZvZs would look like, since that map seems highly suitable for Hive ZvZ.

A quick, sad history of island maps in BW: There are of course the classics, usually only one starting base or one starting base with two geysers and a mineral only expansion (read: Paradoxx). Turns out (no surprise, just do the math!), that Shuttle Zealot into Shuttle Reaver (EDIT: Oh, and Corsairs, of course, which is the only think that Protoss actually needs to fork much gas into) into Carriers just dominates everything in this scenario.
In comes the "fix": Now there are cliffs everywhere where tanks can just kill an opponent for minimal investment (Gorky Island, Hall of Valhalla, Desert Fox – take your pick).
All the while Zerg simply starve to death, unable to grab an early expansion or two and get the gas economy that they so desperately need, and even more on Island maps where in addition to Mutalsisks and fast Hive, Ovi speed and drop are not optional.
So I guess overcompensation has reached its logical third and final phase now, where all the advantages are given to Zerg, before finally we can actually establish something that is fair for all races and an enrichment for the game/meta in general.
Hall of vallhalla is from 2001, paradox is from 2003, so is gorky. The history of island maps, basically, is: pure island maps as per blizzards initial release, like dire straits. Then they start making new ones like Space Odyssey, but just like dire straights theres only one quick gas. Pure island maps basically died out after the early 2000's, but some semi island maps continued on until the mid 2000's (dreams of balhae being the last decent classic semi island map made, which gave a quick second gas to zerg). Desert fox was 2006, but it was also a semi island map, just like most.
Dream of Balhae also falls into the purposely tank imba category, though.


On February 15 2018 02:05 K.H.J wrote:
Modified maps can be downloaded now.

https://blog.naver.com/kangkuyol/221206946806

Changelog?
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 14 2018 19:31 GMT
#1668
>2/21 13:00 KST
That's too bad.
The heart's eternal vow
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
February 17 2018 11:37 GMT
#1669
[image loading]

Flash visited Bisu's barrack.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
February 17 2018 12:43 GMT
#1670
Almost looks like the man on the right is flipping off the camera.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 17 2018 12:51 GMT
#1671
It's Flash's dad hahaha
Michael Probu
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
February 17 2018 13:06 GMT
#1672
Oh, was thinking where I saw that old man's face of course it's Pa Flash.
sunbeams are never made like me...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51599 Posts
February 17 2018 23:39 GMT
#1673
is flash's dad such a bisu fan he went with his son to see him? lmao
Commentator
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-17 23:43:31
February 17 2018 23:42 GMT
#1674
On February 18 2018 08:39 GTR wrote:
is flash's dad such a bisu fan he went with his son to see him? lmao


Maybe Flash's dad owns a car and drove Flash to the barracks? I wouldn't be surprised if many of the parents know each other.
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LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina246 Posts
February 18 2018 03:09 GMT
#1675
On February 14 2018 13:20 PorkSoda wrote:
Could scouts finally have a place in 1v1?


No
Standard Queens
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 18 2018 04:12 GMT
#1676
bisu is gonna come back and tear apart everyone. cuz that's when flash and him trade places. i await my new toss overlord
sntct
Profile Joined February 2018
100 Posts
February 18 2018 18:11 GMT
#1677
On February 15 2018 02:05 K.H.J wrote:
Modified maps can be downloaded now.

https://blog.naver.com/kangkuyol/221206946806


Visited the site. Where is the map DL button?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17741 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-18 19:16:38
February 18 2018 19:15 GMT
#1678
On February 18 2018 08:42 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2018 08:39 GTR wrote:
is flash's dad such a bisu fan he went with his son to see him? lmao


Maybe Flash's dad owns a car and drove Flash to the barracks? I wouldn't be surprised if many of the parents know each other.

I was actually thinking the same thing. Maybe the barracks is in a place kind of hard to get to with just public transportation and with the impression I get of Flash I don't think he would know how to drive so his dad drove him there.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Altay
Profile Joined January 2018
31 Posts
February 18 2018 19:45 GMT
#1679
On February 19 2018 04:15 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2018 08:42 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On February 18 2018 08:39 GTR wrote:
is flash's dad such a bisu fan he went with his son to see him? lmao


Maybe Flash's dad owns a car and drove Flash to the barracks? I wouldn't be surprised if many of the parents know each other.

I was actually thinking the same thing. Maybe the barracks is in a place kind of hard to get to with just public transportation and with the impression I get of Flash I don't think he would know how to drive so his dad drove him there.


and they had a quick TVP on matchpoint tethering two laptops to his dad's iphone hotspot. Bisu won using proxy gates.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-19 00:06:11
February 19 2018 00:06 GMT
#1680
Flash's father with the backwards V flipping everyone off, golden lmao.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
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