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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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Empyrean
17050 Posts
On January 06 2018 09:33 TT1 wrote: effort beat flash in a bo5 a week later, he lost cus of zvz.. Just like in JinAir OSL  Probably my last great memory of watching SC live. Can't wait to tune in to ASL. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3128 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 06 2018 09:40 Lorch wrote: In an OGN show match event. Effort also dropped out in ASL 1/2/3 against all three races. If you give Flash a week to prepare for Effort he'll smack him down. Yeah I doubt that. I would give Flash the edge, but if you think it would be a smack down you really don't know how good Effort is. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3691 Posts
On January 06 2018 21:28 blade55555 wrote: Yeah I doubt that. I would give Flash the edge, but if you think it would be a smack down you really don't know how good Effort is. If both existed inside a vacuum, sure. Don't get me wrong I love effort. He is scary good. It's just that I have been cheering him on for 4 ASLs now and he has never delivered. He might be able to beat Flash at any other tournament, but at ASL he'll have to make it past the Ro16 before I'll consider him a serious contender. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3128 Posts
This time Flash might have to play a Bo5 against one of the strong Zergs. I love Flash but I think the following Zerg players (Larva, Effort and Soulkey) can beat him, in a Bo5. Maybe even JD if he has a good day. Though sometimes I watch him and he kinda seems stuck in the 1st gear. Maybe those health problems of his are starting to catch up with him. Shame, he's still fucking scary when in top gear. | ||
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oxKnu
1244 Posts
On January 06 2018 23:23 NoS-Craig wrote: I want to see how far Larva can go. No Bisu to send him to 4th this time. A lot of strong Zergs ran into each other in the last tournament. I know he can beat Flash, but I'm not sure if he can take 3 games from him on the big stage. This time Flash might have to play a Bo5 against one of the strong Zergs. I love Flash but I think the following Zerg players (Larva, Effort and Soulkey) can beat him, in a Bo5. Maybe even JD if he has a good day. Though sometimes I watch him and he kinda seems stuck in the 1st gear. Maybe those health problems of his are starting to catch up with him. Shame, he's still fucking scary when in top gear. Good post. Larva has a lot of vulnerabilities though against other non-top players (see that set against Rush where he got demolished). That's why Soulkey is better, he does the macro stuff and delivers most of the time, he's consistent. Effort and Jaedong I feel like a this point are only elite at the ultra-aggression style. But that style really doesn't decide tournaments anymore. They're still credible threats any day to anyone though. No doubt about it. I feel bad for Protoss though. I wish Best would get his act together. Shuttle can wire up a few great macro games here and there but that's not really enough. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
Is Sea and Savior still banned from ASL5? | ||
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[AS]Rattus
428 Posts
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VioleTAK
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BeaSteR
Sweden328 Posts
He posted this picture on Christmas, dont know if it means something though. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/8AOlEXa.png) | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
No, I just want to see him play bw again. He singlehandedly saved the legacy of bw at the end of the kespa era. There is no other player that have made me love the game more than him. I just want to cheer for the guy and pay my respects (having another protoss contender in the field wont hurt either) | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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Freezard
Sweden1017 Posts
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Miragee
8645 Posts
On January 07 2018 10:31 Alpha-NP- wrote: What about Sea? Is he allowed to play in ASL5? Or he is lifetime banned like Savior? Flash needs some competition! He should be allowed to play. A life-time ban would be stupid beyond belief. | ||
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Wonk
546 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50640 Posts
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Netto.
Poland523 Posts
On January 06 2018 23:59 oxKnu wrote: Good post. Larva has a lot of vulnerabilities though against other non-top players (see that set against Rush where he got demolished). That's why Soulkey is better, he does the macro stuff and delivers most of the time, he's consistent. Effort and Jaedong I feel like a this point are only elite at the ultra-aggression style. But that style really doesn't decide tournaments anymore. They're still credible threats any day to anyone though. No doubt about it. I feel bad for Protoss though. I wish Best would get his act together. Shuttle can wire up a few great macro games here and there but that's not really enough. I agree that Soulkey is more consistent, but in late game Larva, in my opinion, is way ahead of other zergs. When I watch his games against Flash, which go into circuit-breaker-split-map-macro-fest, Larva is the only one who can truly outplay Flash. His APM, Macro and multitasking is almost perfect, he just seems to do a little more a little faster. Therefore Soulkey and Larva have different playstyles and different strenghts for sure. On the other hand, like you said, Larva has vulnerabilities. He often dies in early game. However I think that it is easier to polish your early and prepare some strats to get to the late game, then it is to improve your late game macro and apm to Flash level (which would be soulkey case). If I were to choose I would say that Larva has bigger chance to take down Flash. He delivered in ASL4 and he often deliveres against Flash on stream, once he gets to his comfort zone (4+ bases). | ||
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Empyrean
17050 Posts
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On January 07 2018 18:19 Empyrean wrote: Can someone fill me in on what happened with Sea? Sea had an peculiar incident when he was accused of sexual harassing a female streamer during one of his own streams. Sea wasn't charged with a crime, but Afreeca banned him for ASL 4 and suspended him from streaming briefly. You can read about more in these threads: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/526650-the-dark-side-of-sea http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/526572-sea-was-replaced-by-killer-in-asl | ||
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