On January 16 2017 11:07 GolemMadness wrote:
The Flash vs Jaedong rivalry was SO INTENSE that back in 2010, a Jaedong fan on here made like 5 accounts to argue with himself about why Jaedong was great and Flash was bad. Truly a tumultuous time.

gg no re? DIdn't he make like 20 accounts? lol

thezanursic

5500 Posts

January 16 2017 09:49 GMT

#42

Hoping Jaedong puts up a fight

Shady Sands

United States4021 Posts

January 16 2017 09:56 GMT

#43

Fantastic writeup for a fantastic rivalry.

BLinD-RawR

ALLEYCAT BLUES51119 Posts

January 16 2017 10:11 GMT

#44

On January 16 2017 18:26 RvB wrote:

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gg no re? DIdn't he make like 20 accounts? lol

Fuck that guy

LRM)TechnicS

Bulgaria1565 Posts

January 16 2017 10:14 GMT

#45

Fun fact: Out of the 45 games played between the two, Flash goes for 14cc (cc first) 14 games (1 for every 3 games played) and wins 9 of them. (TLPD recorded)

So 40% of Flash wins vs Jaedong are 14cc games.

From his 5 wins in these 14 games Jaedong won 3 out of 5 by playing standard with bo disadvantage- 12h,12pool while only 1 with 9pool speed and only 1 with 3hatch before pool.

valas991

Hungary181 Posts

January 16 2017 10:17 GMT

#46

Great read, thanks!

Probably a noob question, that has probably been asked many times....but why didn't they just make a rematch, instead of having the referees decide in 2009 NATE MSL ?

CrayonPopChoa

Canada761 Posts

January 16 2017 10:18 GMT

#47

Im starting to get those old feels from 2009 I cant fucking wait.

FlaShFTW

United States10532 Posts

January 16 2017 10:19 GMT

#48

On January 16 2017 17:55 Antisocialmunky wrote:
There's also another factor that skewed perception of their dominance. Flash and Jaedong were very frequently carrying their teams in proleague while winning the individual leagues. SKT1 and Khan had more even rosters of very good players but you would always hear about how Flash and Jaedong went out twice every single match to child labor their teams to victory.

KT Rolster was nicknamed KT FlaSh back then and Hwaseong OZ was Jaedong OZ as well. KT didn't have enough consistency with Hoejja, Action, Stats, ForGG, etc back then with their only really "consistent" player being Violet (Rest in Peace). OZ had slightly better players with Hiya and Killer but only Killer was ever "consistent" too after taking to his mentor.

CrayonPopChoa

Canada761 Posts

January 16 2017 10:21 GMT

#49

On January 16 2017 19:14 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Fun fact: Out of the 45 games played between the two, Flash goes for 14cc (cc first) 14 games (1 for every 3 games played) and wins 9 of them. (TLPD recorded)

So 40% of Flash wins vs Jaedong are 14cc games.

From his 5 wins in these 14 games Jaedong won 3 out of 5 by playing standard with bo disadvantage- 12h,12pool while only 1 with 9pool speed and only 1 with 3hatch before pool.

wow thats some cool insight. one thing i loved about those series with JD is Flash always busted out some unique builds.

DracoMortuiVolantus

68 Posts

January 16 2017 10:36 GMT

#50

On January 16 2017 13:36 Obzy wrote:
It looks like the end of the article is intended to be a playlist, but the link appears to only go to one of their games? (Not complaining, I just wondered if it was a mistake.) Great write-up, looking forward to the games!

i wanted to write the same,is there link to good playlist?

LRM)TechnicS

Bulgaria1565 Posts

January 16 2017 10:37 GMT

#51

Might be a coincidence but LOL at the stream bar on the right, only protosses streaming as all terrans and zergs are probably occupied with Flash/Jaedong secret practice hours:

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From these Last is currently obsing a protoss' stream.

PVJ

Hungary5221 Posts

January 16 2017 10:48 GMT

#52

Good article, big like.

SlayerS_BunkiE

Canada1717 Posts

January 16 2017 10:52 GMT

#53

I kind of have a vague memory of this happening!!

On January 16 2017 11:31 Piratezerg wrote:
Awesome write up, you basically can't write enough amazing things about these two players. And Jaedong did it all while also carrying his lame team.

They both did. I would argue Flash even more so. He wasnt called child labor terran for nothing.

HaN-

France1920 Posts

January 16 2017 10:53 GMT

#54

On January 16 2017 19:36 DracoMortuiVolantus wrote:

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i wanted to write the same,is there link to good playlist?

Flash vs Jaedong - All Games - Brood War - Chronological

rotta

5634 Posts

January 16 2017 10:55 GMT

#55

Good stuff, thanks!

K T F

X-Men-Pickle

United States62 Posts

January 16 2017 11:03 GMT

#56

Wow beautiful write up. I read the BW articles all the time but rarely comment. Haven't been able to play BW in months but I love how the ASL is satisfying my craving lol. So excited for Flash vs Jaedong and to have Tasteless and Artosis casting! American here watching from Prague!

coolprogrammingstuff

906 Posts

January 16 2017 11:10 GMT

#57

On January 16 2017 19:17 valas991 wrote:
Great read, thanks!

Probably a noob question, that has probably been asked many times....but why didn't they just make a rematch, instead of having the referees decide in 2009 NATE MSL ?

because Jaedong was about to win. You'd feel pretty cheated if you're about to win and the other guy escapes by a lucky poweroutage. That's why Jaedong was awarded the win. Then, imagine losing the rematch, even though you were about to win the only game that was meant to be played.

That's the argument

iloveav

Poland1482 Posts

January 16 2017 11:34 GMT

#58

Flash Vs Jaedong is the Madrid vs Barca of Football (well, at least if you live in Spain).

Personally, If I try to think about what Flash vs Jaedong is for me (like, what can I compare it to?), There is really only one thing close enough:
Goku vs Vegeta. The first time they fight on Earth. (Kaio-what?).