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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6272 Posts
January 16 2017 09:26 GMT
#41
On January 16 2017 11:07 GolemMadness wrote:
The Flash vs Jaedong rivalry was SO INTENSE that back in 2010, a Jaedong fan on here made like 5 accounts to argue with himself about why Jaedong was great and Flash was bad. Truly a tumultuous time.

gg no re? DIdn't he make like 20 accounts? lol
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
January 16 2017 09:49 GMT
#42
Hoping Jaedong puts up a fight
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
January 16 2017 09:56 GMT
#43
Fantastic writeup for a fantastic rivalry.
Что?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50754 Posts
January 16 2017 10:11 GMT
#44
On January 16 2017 18:26 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 11:07 GolemMadness wrote:
The Flash vs Jaedong rivalry was SO INTENSE that back in 2010, a Jaedong fan on here made like 5 accounts to argue with himself about why Jaedong was great and Flash was bad. Truly a tumultuous time.

gg no re? DIdn't he make like 20 accounts? lol

Fuck that guy
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
January 16 2017 10:14 GMT
#45
Fun fact: Out of the 45 games played between the two, Flash goes for 14cc (cc first) 14 games (1 for every 3 games played) and wins 9 of them. (TLPD recorded)

So 40% of Flash wins vs Jaedong are 14cc games.

From his 5 wins in these 14 games Jaedong won 3 out of 5 by playing standard with bo disadvantage- 12h,12pool while only 1 with 9pool speed and only 1 with 3hatch before pool.
Enjoy the game
valas991
Profile Joined September 2014
Hungary181 Posts
January 16 2017 10:17 GMT
#46
Great read, thanks!

Probably a noob question, that has probably been asked many times....but why didn't they just make a rematch, instead of having the referees decide in 2009 NATE MSL ?
"Men Live And Die, Memories Form And Fade, Everything Has Its End... Except Music... Music Will Never Die..."
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
January 16 2017 10:18 GMT
#47
Im starting to get those old feels from 2009 I cant fucking wait.
BW4LIFE
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10360 Posts
January 16 2017 10:19 GMT
#48
On January 16 2017 17:55 Antisocialmunky wrote:
There's also another factor that skewed perception of their dominance. Flash and Jaedong were very frequently carrying their teams in proleague while winning the individual leagues. SKT1 and Khan had more even rosters of very good players but you would always hear about how Flash and Jaedong went out twice every single match to child labor their teams to victory.

KT Rolster was nicknamed KT FlaSh back then and Hwaseong OZ was Jaedong OZ as well. KT didn't have enough consistency with Hoejja, Action, Stats, ForGG, etc back then with their only really "consistent" player being Violet (Rest in Peace). OZ had slightly better players with Hiya and Killer but only Killer was ever "consistent" too after taking to his mentor.
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CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
January 16 2017 10:21 GMT
#49
On January 16 2017 19:14 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Fun fact: Out of the 45 games played between the two, Flash goes for 14cc (cc first) 14 games (1 for every 3 games played) and wins 9 of them. (TLPD recorded)

So 40% of Flash wins vs Jaedong are 14cc games.

From his 5 wins in these 14 games Jaedong won 3 out of 5 by playing standard with bo disadvantage- 12h,12pool while only 1 with 9pool speed and only 1 with 3hatch before pool.



wow thats some cool insight. one thing i loved about those series with JD is Flash always busted out some unique builds.
BW4LIFE
DracoMortuiVolantus
Profile Joined October 2016
68 Posts
January 16 2017 10:36 GMT
#50
On January 16 2017 13:36 Obzy wrote:
It looks like the end of the article is intended to be a playlist, but the link appears to only go to one of their games? (Not complaining, I just wondered if it was a mistake.) Great write-up, looking forward to the games!


i wanted to write the same,is there link to good playlist?
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-16 10:38:08
January 16 2017 10:37 GMT
#51
Might be a coincidence but LOL at the stream bar on the right, only protosses streaming as all terrans and zergs are probably occupied with Flash/Jaedong secret practice hours:

[image loading]

From these Last is currently obsing a protoss' stream.
Enjoy the game
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 16 2017 10:48 GMT
#52
Good article, big like.
The heart's eternal vow
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
January 16 2017 10:52 GMT
#53
On January 16 2017 11:07 GolemMadness wrote:
The Flash vs Jaedong rivalry was SO INTENSE that back in 2010, a Jaedong fan on here made like 5 accounts to argue with himself about why Jaedong was great and Flash was bad. Truly a tumultuous time.

I kind of have a vague memory of this happening!!

On January 16 2017 11:31 Piratezerg wrote:
Awesome write up, you basically can't write enough amazing things about these two players. And Jaedong did it all while also carrying his lame team.

They both did. I would argue Flash even more so. He wasnt called child labor terran for nothing.
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-16 10:54:58
January 16 2017 10:53 GMT
#54
On January 16 2017 19:36 DracoMortuiVolantus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 13:36 Obzy wrote:
It looks like the end of the article is intended to be a playlist, but the link appears to only go to one of their games? (Not complaining, I just wondered if it was a mistake.) Great write-up, looking forward to the games!


i wanted to write the same,is there link to good playlist?


Flash vs Jaedong - All Games - Brood War - Chronological
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5606 Posts
January 16 2017 10:55 GMT
#55
Good stuff, thanks!

K T F
don't wall off against random
X-Men-Pickle
Profile Joined May 2006
United States62 Posts
January 16 2017 11:03 GMT
#56
Wow beautiful write up. I read the BW articles all the time but rarely comment. Haven't been able to play BW in months but I love how the ASL is satisfying my craving lol. So excited for Flash vs Jaedong and to have Tasteless and Artosis casting! American here watching from Prague!
aka Ireland
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
January 16 2017 11:10 GMT
#57
On January 16 2017 19:17 valas991 wrote:
Great read, thanks!

Probably a noob question, that has probably been asked many times....but why didn't they just make a rematch, instead of having the referees decide in 2009 NATE MSL ?



because Jaedong was about to win. You'd feel pretty cheated if you're about to win and the other guy escapes by a lucky poweroutage. That's why Jaedong was awarded the win. Then, imagine losing the rematch, even though you were about to win the only game that was meant to be played.

That's the argument
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
January 16 2017 11:34 GMT
#58
Flash Vs Jaedong is the Madrid vs Barca of Football (well, at least if you live in Spain).

Personally, If I try to think about what Flash vs Jaedong is for me (like, what can I compare it to?), There is really only one thing close enough:
Goku vs Vegeta. The first time they fight on Earth. (Kaio-what?).
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
January 16 2017 11:47 GMT
#59
On January 16 2017 19:53 HaN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 19:36 DracoMortuiVolantus wrote:
On January 16 2017 13:36 Obzy wrote:
It looks like the end of the article is intended to be a playlist, but the link appears to only go to one of their games? (Not complaining, I just wondered if it was a mistake.) Great write-up, looking forward to the games!


i wanted to write the same,is there link to good playlist?


Flash vs Jaedong - All Games - Brood War - Chronological

There are only 48 videos. Which game is missing?
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
January 16 2017 11:48 GMT
#60
Great article.
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