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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2311 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 14:08:43
November 04 2016 14:06 GMT
#1421
On November 04 2016 22:18 ChillingFrog89 wrote:
going backward to BW.. that game is eye cancer, rip this and rip that.


At last marines there look like marines , not like a police fighting with street riots
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 14:10:01
November 04 2016 14:07 GMT
#1422
I don't agree with you guys. Plenty of pros still play 20-30 games a day which I consider a significant amount far beyond "entertainer who happen to play BW".

Also, most of them retained their "glory" shape from 2010-2012. I've been constantly watching and playing bw since then and see no big difference neither in strategies or execution. I also believe that because everyone can learn from each other (beauty of streams) the level has increased as there are less unknowns for players in regards to both mechanics and strategy.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
November 04 2016 14:11 GMT
#1423
On November 04 2016 23:07 kogeT wrote:
I don't agree with you guys. Plenty of pros still play 20-30 games a day which I consider a significant amount far beyond "entertainer who happen to play BW".

Also, most of them retained their "glory" shape from 2010-2012. I've been constantly watching and playing bw since then and see no big difference neither in strategies or execution. I also believe that because everyone can learn from each other (beauty of streams) the level has increased as there are less unknowns for players in regards to both mechanics and strategy.


No need to argue. They are here to troll obviously
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8639 Posts
November 04 2016 14:15 GMT
#1424
On November 04 2016 23:04 Rollora wrote:
Some of you seem to have missed the important update on Page 1/OP:
Show nested quote +



mod edit:
http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?lurl=/esports/news_list?news_cate_id=1&entry_id=30070
JD denies the rumors that he's going back to BW.




That article is from july Mr. Know-It-All. The talk on the past few pages is about recent announcements.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 14:19:00
November 04 2016 14:17 GMT
#1425
On November 04 2016 22:18 ChillingFrog89 wrote:
going backward to BW.. that game is eye cancer, rip this and rip that.

Good new : you don't have to play it or watch it if you don't want to.

On November 04 2016 23:04 Rollora wrote:
Some of you seem to have missed the important update on Page 1/OP:
Show nested quote +



mod edit:
http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?lurl=/esports/news_list?news_cate_id=1&entry_id=30070
JD denies the rumors that he's going back to BW.




That was before the end of the contract between JD and EG.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
November 04 2016 14:21 GMT
#1426
On November 04 2016 23:07 kogeT wrote:
I don't agree with you guys. Plenty of pros still play 20-30 games a day which I consider a significant amount far beyond "entertainer who happen to play BW".

They are right though (but I too disagree with the "entertainer" statement) since the lack of teams, regular tournaments etc makes them amateur players by default. The number of games played, the quality of those or the hours played each day don't matter in the distinction between a pro and amateur player.
Khalum
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria831 Posts
November 04 2016 14:32 GMT
#1427
Oh, we haven't had this 'professional or not' discussion in a while! I think the next statement is supposed to be: 'Earning a living from doing something means you do it professionally'. Or was it 'you need to be paid by an organization to be called a professional'? Hm. Or 'you need to play in official events to be called a professional'? No.. no, that wasn't it.. Hm..
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 04 2016 14:48 GMT
#1428
On November 04 2016 23:11 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 23:07 kogeT wrote:
I don't agree with you guys. Plenty of pros still play 20-30 games a day which I consider a significant amount far beyond "entertainer who happen to play BW".

Also, most of them retained their "glory" shape from 2010-2012. I've been constantly watching and playing bw since then and see no big difference neither in strategies or execution. I also believe that because everyone can learn from each other (beauty of streams) the level has increased as there are less unknowns for players in regards to both mechanics and strategy.


No need to argue. They are here to troll obviously

yep, there are equal amounts of toxic people on both sides and they both deserve to be ignored regardless of which game they support. i was attracted to this thread beceause i was a jaedong fan in SC2 and it's interesting for me that he's going back to BW. no need to throw shit around just because i don't care for BW as a competitive game
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
November 04 2016 14:51 GMT
#1429
On November 04 2016 23:32 Khalum wrote:
Oh, we haven't had this 'professional or not' discussion in a while! I think the next statement is supposed to be: 'Earning a living from doing something means you do it professionally'. Or was it 'you need to be paid by an organization to be called a professional'? Hm. Or 'you need to play in official events to be called a professional'? No.. no, that wasn't it.. Hm..

No idea, never been a part of that discussion before. Even TL itself recognized the specific scenes as there were the professional one (Kespa) and the amateur one (Afreeca). The latter had tournaments too and tipping has always been a thing, so nowadays it's just like it was back then. With the dissolution of the professional scene, the amateur one doesn't become the professional one just because the latter stopped existing.
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 15:12:02
November 04 2016 15:09 GMT
#1430
On November 04 2016 23:51 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 23:32 Khalum wrote:
Oh, we haven't had this 'professional or not' discussion in a while! I think the next statement is supposed to be: 'Earning a living from doing something means you do it professionally'. Or was it 'you need to be paid by an organization to be called a professional'? Hm. Or 'you need to play in official events to be called a professional'? No.. no, that wasn't it.. Hm..

No idea, never been a part of that discussion before. Even TL itself recognized the specific scenes as there were the professional one (Kespa) and the amateur one (Afreeca). The latter had tournaments too and tipping has always been a thing, so nowadays it's just like it was back then. With the dissolution of the professional scene, the amateur one doesn't become the professional one just because the latter stopped existing.

Exactly.

Ever heard of amateur boxing? That doesn't mean those boxers are bad or don't put in serious work. Many amateur boxers make a living off boxing.
Tyrant.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 04 2016 15:15 GMT
#1431
On November 04 2016 23:04 Rollora wrote:
Some of you seem to have missed the important update on Page 1/OP:
Show nested quote +



mod edit:
http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?lurl=/esports/news_list?news_cate_id=1&entry_id=30070
JD denies the rumors that he's going back to BW.



that was an old mod edit (from July) thus it was lower on the list. Mod edits #2 and #3 are the newest ones that are of most relevance here.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sheridan
Profile Joined October 2016
60 Posts
November 04 2016 15:32 GMT
#1432
Sorry for old question. But is it true that 424 is jaedong and he is really still good even now? Better than effort? Man can't wait for his afreeca stream. He is going to be make so much money from all those balloons
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland749 Posts
November 04 2016 15:51 GMT
#1433
On November 04 2016 23:04 Rollora wrote:
Some of you seem to have missed the important update on Page 1/OP:
Show nested quote +



mod edit:
http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?lurl=/esports/news_list?news_cate_id=1&entry_id=30070
JD denies the rumors that he's going back to BW.



But that post in the OP has been there for weeks, iirc. So it should be outdated
Rip & Tear until it is done!
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 15:55:59
November 04 2016 15:55 GMT
#1434
On November 04 2016 23:06 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 22:18 ChillingFrog89 wrote:
going backward to BW.. that game is eye cancer, rip this and rip that.


At last marines there look like marines , not like a police fighting with street riots


lol that was funny :D
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 04 2016 16:05 GMT
#1435
On November 04 2016 23:06 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 22:18 ChillingFrog89 wrote:
going backward to BW.. that game is eye cancer, rip this and rip that.


At last marines there look like marines , not like a police fighting with street riots

At least they're not literally police lol

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
They even have riot shields
[image loading]
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 04 2016 18:53 GMT
#1436
Well, I feel cheated. Such deliberate clickbait.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
November 04 2016 22:28 GMT
#1437
On November 05 2016 00:15 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 23:04 Rollora wrote:
Some of you seem to have missed the important update on Page 1/OP:



mod edit:
http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?lurl=/esports/news_list?news_cate_id=1&entry_id=30070
JD denies the rumors that he's going back to BW.



that was an old mod edit (from July) thus it was lower on the list. Mod edits #2 and #3 are the newest ones that are of most relevance here.
Yeah I figured that now. Didn't know that TL is the only forum where you read from bottom up and didn't see the former mod edits.
Searched for the important information on the bottom or at least the other information (the not so relevant anymore information) to be hidden (spoiler tag?).
But yeah, was propably overexcited after the headline, saw the (outdated) mod edit and thought "awww crap!".

Philar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong125 Posts
November 04 2016 22:59 GMT
#1438
Does anyone know what jaedong is doing at blizzcon? is he making an appearance for a SC panel or just hanging out and enjoying the event
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 23:20:01
November 04 2016 23:17 GMT
#1439
On November 05 2016 07:28 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:15 BigFan wrote:
On November 04 2016 23:04 Rollora wrote:
Some of you seem to have missed the important update on Page 1/OP:



mod edit:
http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?lurl=/esports/news_list?news_cate_id=1&entry_id=30070
JD denies the rumors that he's going back to BW.



that was an old mod edit (from July) thus it was lower on the list. Mod edits #2 and #3 are the newest ones that are of most relevance here.
Yeah I figured that now. Didn't know that TL is the only forum where you read from bottom up and didn't see the former mod edits.
Searched for the important information on the bottom or at least the other information (the not so relevant anymore information) to be hidden (spoiler tag?).
But yeah, was propably overexcited after the headline, saw the (outdated) mod edit and thought "awww crap!".


The sequence of mod edit #3, mod edit #2 and mod edit should have been simple enough to imply which one is the latest. Also, IIRC, when this thread was first posted, people were complaining about how the new information was at the bottom, so the latest mod edit was put on the top.

edit - it is most probably the excitement. I mean who won't get this excited [image loading]
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 04 2016 23:50 GMT
#1440
On November 05 2016 07:59 Philar wrote:
Does anyone know what jaedong is doing at blizzcon? is he making an appearance for a SC panel or just hanging out and enjoying the event


At this point I am pretty sure he's there as his last goodbye to the foreign fans he has and with EG. I could be wrong though.
When I think of something else, something will go here
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