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kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
February 06 2009 10:07 GMT
#4881
On February 06 2009 15:23 Cambium wrote:
Something's seriously wrong with your logic:
+ Show Spoiler +

Okay, Hwasin pwned Flash and Jaedong so hard, they looked like amateurs


but Jaedong could've won the MSL and Hwasin - I don't think so..


What?



+ Show Spoiler +
I just don't think Hwasin has what it takes to win the whole thing, even though he was able to defeat these 2 top-players. But: It was just 1 Game and we all know that Jaedong often looses the first game in a BO-3/BO-5, besides - Hwasin rushed him, so theres allways a luck-factor involved... Jaedong was simply unlucky with his build-choice.

And Flash made some horrible moves in the game against Hwasin and was behind very early - he tried to play it out but couldn't pull of a game-winning move; so he lost.

In competetive Sports like SC with all the different Matchups and the personality of players involved you can't really argue in this strictly logical way, because we're not talking about numbers or objects, but people.
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 10:13:16
February 06 2009 10:12 GMT
#4882
On February 06 2009 19:07 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 15:23 Cambium wrote:
Something's seriously wrong with your logic:
+ Show Spoiler +

Okay, Hwasin pwned Flash and Jaedong so hard, they looked like amateurs


but Jaedong could've won the MSL and Hwasin - I don't think so..


What?



+ Show Spoiler +
I just don't think Hwasin has what it takes to win the whole thing, even though he was able to defeat these 2 top-players. But: It was just 1 Game and we all know that Jaedong often looses the first game in a BO-3/BO-5, besides - Hwasin rushed him, so theres allways a luck-factor involved... Jaedong was simply unlucky with his build-choice.

And Flash made some horrible moves in the game against Hwasin and was behind very early - he tried to play it out but couldn't pull of a game-winning move; so he lost.

In competetive Sports like SC with all the different Matchups and the personality of players involved you can't really argue in this strictly logical way, because we're not talking about numbers or objects, but people.



Actually ,

+ Show Spoiler +
Jaedong risked it by making lings and NO sunkens, not even one, despite the fact that he SAW the Terran move out, and he KNEW Hwasin already had a functional Academy
In such a high level play these kind of things can cost you a lot
Being greedy vs Hwasin isn't really recommended, since he probably got used to fighting a greedy sAviOr back when he was good
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
February 06 2009 10:40 GMT
#4883
this is really a bunch of great games imo. Both OSL and MSL!
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
February 06 2009 11:33 GMT
#4884
+ Show Spoiler +
I had this feeling that Jaedong was pissed at FBH at the end of the game(5hats lol :p I liked it) could anyone tell me why?Great games, thx for uploading everyone
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 06:48:54
February 06 2009 12:00 GMT
#4885
+ Show Spoiler +
hwasin played pretty well, what's with all the hate =(

that game jaedong vs fbh in the end when jaedong planted those hatcheries was sweet hahaha, tho i gotta give it to fbh for being a good sport and smiled and didnt turn it into a big fuss


thanks for the uploads. always so quick!
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
February 06 2009 13:58 GMT
#4886
+ Show Spoiler +
don't spoil plz@pyrogenetix...

I mean the "Hwasin played pretty well-" and the "jaedong vs fbh-"part

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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 06:49:25
February 06 2009 14:09 GMT
#4887
On February 06 2009 21:00 pyrogenetix wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
hwasin played pretty well, what's with all the hate =(

that game jaedong vs fbh in the end when jaedong planted those hatcheries was sweet hahaha, tho i gotta give it to fbh for being a good sport and smiled and didnt turn it into a big fuss


thanks for the uploads. always so quick!


+ Show Spoiler +

I agree, that's why FBH > all

Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9044 Posts
February 06 2009 16:35 GMT
#4888
On February 06 2009 05:36 Proposal wrote:
HwaSin + Show Spoiler +
what a beast

+ Show Spoiler +
I got spoiled by this...

cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
February 06 2009 16:48 GMT
#4889
On February 06 2009 19:07 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 15:23 Cambium wrote:
Something's seriously wrong with your logic:
+ Show Spoiler +

Okay, Hwasin pwned Flash and Jaedong so hard, they looked like amateurs


but Jaedong could've won the MSL and Hwasin - I don't think so..


What?



+ Show Spoiler +
I just don't think Hwasin has what it takes to win the whole thing, even though he was able to defeat these 2 top-players. But: It was just 1 Game and we all know that Jaedong often looses the first game in a BO-3/BO-5, besides - Hwasin rushed him, so theres allways a luck-factor involved... Jaedong was simply unlucky with his build-choice.

And Flash made some horrible moves in the game against Hwasin and was behind very early - he tried to play it out but couldn't pull of a game-winning move; so he lost.

In competetive Sports like SC with all the different Matchups and the personality of players involved you can't really argue in this strictly logical way, because we're not talking about numbers or objects, but people.


+ Show Spoiler +
Hwasin is a very, very strong player who is in a deep slump. He has what it takes to win tournaments vs the very best of the best: he won WCG korea in 2007 or 08 (not the last one but the one before it), going throuh a ton of strong players
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 16:50:39
February 06 2009 16:50 GMT
#4890
On February 06 2009 19:07 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 15:23 Cambium wrote:
Something's seriously wrong with your logic:
+ Show Spoiler +

Okay, Hwasin pwned Flash and Jaedong so hard, they looked like amateurs


but Jaedong could've won the MSL and Hwasin - I don't think so..


What?



+ Show Spoiler +
I just don't think Hwasin has what it takes to win the whole thing, even though he was able to defeat these 2 top-players. But: It was just 1 Game and we all know that Jaedong often looses the first game in a BO-3/BO-5, besides - Hwasin rushed him, so theres allways a luck-factor involved... Jaedong was simply unlucky with his build-choice.

And Flash made some horrible moves in the game against Hwasin and was behind very early - he tried to play it out but couldn't pull of a game-winning move; so he lost.

In competetive Sports like SC with all the different Matchups and the personality of players involved you can't really argue in this strictly logical way, because we're not talking about numbers or objects, but people.

It's not unlucky when you lose the same way to the same person over and over again.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
February 06 2009 16:58 GMT
#4891
On February 06 2009 20:33 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I had this feeling that Jaedong was pissed at FBH at the end of the game(5hats lol :p I liked it) could anyone tell me why?Great games, thx for uploading everyone

From what I heard, FBH was trash-talking Jaedong in the group selection stages.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
February 06 2009 19:24 GMT
#4892
On February 07 2009 01:58 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 20:33 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I had this feeling that Jaedong was pissed at FBH at the end of the game(5hats lol :p I liked it) could anyone tell me why?Great games, thx for uploading everyone

From what I heard, FBH was trash-talking Jaedong in the group selection stages.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, FBH said that when he beat JD last time he went into a mini slump, so this time hes going to send him to hell and shut the door on his head :p. Looks like Jaedong took it seriously and got pissed. Either way, FBH went out in style and JD looked silly pouting in his booth like that.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 00:46:18
February 06 2009 21:55 GMT
#4893
[image loading]


Batoo OSL Ro16 Week 1-2

(Z)YellOw[ArnC] < Tears of the Moon >(Z)JulyZerg
[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [Result] +
Yarnc > July


(T)fantasy < Return of the King >(P)Tester[gm]
[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [Result] +
fantasy > Tester


(T)UpMagiC < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > (T)Flash
[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [Result] +
This game is too epic to spoil. Go watch it.


(Z)GGPlay < Medusa > (P)Kal
[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [Result] +
GGPlay < Kal


All of you, go watch UpMagic vs Flash.

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Force staff is the best item in the game.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 07 2009 00:21 GMT
#4894
On February 07 2009 04:24 OSWater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2009 01:58 qrs wrote:
On February 06 2009 20:33 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I had this feeling that Jaedong was pissed at FBH at the end of the game(5hats lol :p I liked it) could anyone tell me why?Great games, thx for uploading everyone

From what I heard, FBH was trash-talking Jaedong in the group selection stages.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, FBH said that when he beat JD last time he went into a mini slump, so this time hes going to send him to hell and shut the door on his head :p. Looks like Jaedong took it seriously and got pissed. Either way, FBH went out in style and JD looked silly pouting in his booth like that.

+ Show Spoiler +
Jaedong always looks like that when he hasn't won since he still had to play a final game. He's only happy when he wins everything. i.e. he look happy if he wins a game in a series, only when he wins the entire series. He said it's just how he concentrates. Besides, it's more like FBH got blasted out of the water in style.
Jaedong
fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
February 07 2009 00:41 GMT
#4895
On February 07 2009 09:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2009 04:24 OSWater wrote:
On February 07 2009 01:58 qrs wrote:
On February 06 2009 20:33 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I had this feeling that Jaedong was pissed at FBH at the end of the game(5hats lol :p I liked it) could anyone tell me why?Great games, thx for uploading everyone

From what I heard, FBH was trash-talking Jaedong in the group selection stages.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, FBH said that when he beat JD last time he went into a mini slump, so this time hes going to send him to hell and shut the door on his head :p. Looks like Jaedong took it seriously and got pissed. Either way, FBH went out in style and JD looked silly pouting in his booth like that.

+ Show Spoiler +
Jaedong always looks like that when he hasn't won since he still had to play a final game. He's only happy when he wins everything. i.e. he look happy if he wins a game in a series, only when he wins the entire series. He said it's just how he concentrates. Besides, it's more like FBH got blasted out of the water in style.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, I don't think JD was pissed off.
At that point JD was in controll of the whole map and there was no was way FBH could have come back. By building these hatcheries he just showed FBH: "its over, type gg my friend "
infinite fun: http://dagobah.biz/flash/loituma.swf
Tonkerchen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
680 Posts
February 07 2009 09:22 GMT
#4896
LoL Flash - Upmagic: Must watch!

+ Show Spoiler +
lol UpMagiC is such a fucking prick. Nooo flash T.T.
but it's such an entertaining game. MUST WATCH!
The time is just an illusion... created by mankind... /// Lee Young Ho last Bonjwa on earth! /// «I'll... destroy everyone in 2009. Ok...? Thank you.» - Ma Jae Yoon - Maestro Of Zerg
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
February 07 2009 14:56 GMT
#4897
On February 07 2009 18:22 Tonkerchen wrote:
LoL Flash - Upmagic: Must watch!

+ Show Spoiler +
lol UpMagiC is such a fucking prick. Nooo flash T.T.
but it's such an entertaining game. MUST WATCH!

This serously, if you havent seen the game WATCH IT NAO
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9044 Posts
February 07 2009 16:12 GMT
#4898
It's so annoying when the vods end right after a player has typed GG. Can't see their faces or fan screams etc...
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 21:04:10
February 07 2009 16:27 GMT
#4899
[image loading]


Shinhan Bank Winners League 2009 Week 2

[image loading] vs [image loading]


(T)go.go < Colosseum II > (P)HerO
[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Neo Harmony >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)go.go vs (T)NaDa

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Destination >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)go.go vs (P)Pure

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Rush Hour 3 >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)go.go vs (T)Mind

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Medusa >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Not Needed

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +
Not Needed.


< Andromeda >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Not Needed.

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +
Not Needed.


< Sin Chupung-Ryeong >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Not Needed.

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +
Not Needed.



+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
go.go > Hero
go.go > NaDa
go.go > Pure
go.go > Mind

OGN Sparkyz 4 - 0 WeMade Fox




[image loading] vs [image loading]


(T)Iris< Colosseum II >(T)Suny
[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Neo Harmony >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)Iris vs (T)Really

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Destination >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Movie vs (T)Really

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Rush Hour 3 >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)sAviOr vs (T)Really

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Medusa >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)sAviOr vs (P)SangHo

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Andromeda >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)sAviOr vs (Z)hyvaa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFAkB3eh5wk&feature=channel_page][image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +


< Sin Chupung-Ryeong >
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Not Needed.

[image loading] + Show Spoiler [Embedded VOD] +
Not Needed.

[/url]

+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Iris > Suny
Iris < Really
Movie < Really
Savior > Really
Savior > Sangho
Savior > hyvaa

CJ Entus 4 - 2 eSTRO



VODs courtesy of Zatic from TeamLiquid's official VOD channel
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 17:41:48
February 07 2009 17:41 GMT
#4900
thx alot CDRdude
oh and banner for 2nd match is wrong.
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