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The BW vs SC2 debate stops now. Starting from page 4, any mention of BW vs SC2 will result in mod actions.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 23 2016 23:04 GMT
#41
Those stories at the end were great.
Glowsphere
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
United States170 Posts
February 23 2016 23:10 GMT
#42
Thanks for translation... Flash all grown up now. True legend.
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
February 23 2016 23:34 GMT
#43
I love how straightforward they can be with eachother on things like a friend being very socially awkward or anything like it.
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
February 24 2016 00:05 GMT
#44
Pchilgab has scared God! Nice and fun interview.Really funny one was also this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/501177-interview-adieu-flash-my-hands-itch-to-play-games
sunbeams are never made like me...
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-24 00:24:24
February 24 2016 00:22 GMT
#45
On February 24 2016 06:38 lastride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 05:24 dahtroop wrote:
On February 24 2016 02:28 Bisu-Fan wrote:
BW, LotV, all are still StarCraft, and I wish that fans would show interest in both rather than criticize the other.


God has spoken!

Man this has been my point of view for the last years as well dispite the fact that i prefer bw over sc2 like any day. BW elitists really hurt the game itself by having this ridiculous stance against sc2 and especially lotv. It is too bad that the community was polarized this badly and I really blame kespa for not making the switch earlier. 2011 should be the year of the switch. the last couple of osl's were pointless in my opinion. Everyone was super hyped for wol and the infrastructure was there but a huge opportunity was lost because the community was split in half and other games jumped to the oppotunity. Also the majority of the big names of bw got too old and tired 'til 2013, so they prefered to fool around in afreeca than putting hard work and be competitive in sc2.

Whoever understood BW enough to get C level will never favor it over SC2 or I'd question his taste in strategy games in general.
Sometimes the reason is so evident that we refuse to accept it.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-24 00:54:21
February 24 2016 00:53 GMT
#46
On February 24 2016 09:22 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 06:38 lastride wrote:
On February 24 2016 05:24 dahtroop wrote:
On February 24 2016 02:28 Bisu-Fan wrote:
BW, LotV, all are still StarCraft, and I wish that fans would show interest in both rather than criticize the other.


God has spoken!

Man this has been my point of view for the last years as well dispite the fact that i prefer bw over sc2 like any day. BW elitists really hurt the game itself by having this ridiculous stance against sc2 and especially lotv. It is too bad that the community was polarized this badly and I really blame kespa for not making the switch earlier. 2011 should be the year of the switch. the last couple of osl's were pointless in my opinion. Everyone was super hyped for wol and the infrastructure was there but a huge opportunity was lost because the community was split in half and other games jumped to the oppotunity. Also the majority of the big names of bw got too old and tired 'til 2013, so they prefered to fool around in afreeca than putting hard work and be competitive in sc2.

Whoever understood BW enough to get C level will never favor it over SC2 or I'd question his taste in strategy games in general.
Sometimes the reason is so evident that we refuse to accept it.


I got to C in BW and I love both games equally. I'm just not an elitist who thinks BW is the only greatest thing ever and nothing can compare. Both have their faults, but I enjoy both a lot. Although my absolute favorite RTS would be age of empires

Enjoyable interview, wonder how much streaming Flash will do.
When I think of something else, something will go here
180DegreeTurnaroundS
Profile Joined February 2016
4 Posts
February 24 2016 00:54 GMT
#47
When is Flash streaming currently?
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
February 24 2016 00:59 GMT
#48
On February 24 2016 09:53 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 09:22 letian wrote:
On February 24 2016 06:38 lastride wrote:
On February 24 2016 05:24 dahtroop wrote:
On February 24 2016 02:28 Bisu-Fan wrote:
BW, LotV, all are still StarCraft, and I wish that fans would show interest in both rather than criticize the other.


God has spoken!

Man this has been my point of view for the last years as well dispite the fact that i prefer bw over sc2 like any day. BW elitists really hurt the game itself by having this ridiculous stance against sc2 and especially lotv. It is too bad that the community was polarized this badly and I really blame kespa for not making the switch earlier. 2011 should be the year of the switch. the last couple of osl's were pointless in my opinion. Everyone was super hyped for wol and the infrastructure was there but a huge opportunity was lost because the community was split in half and other games jumped to the oppotunity. Also the majority of the big names of bw got too old and tired 'til 2013, so they prefered to fool around in afreeca than putting hard work and be competitive in sc2.

Whoever understood BW enough to get C level will never favor it over SC2 or I'd question his taste in strategy games in general.
Sometimes the reason is so evident that we refuse to accept it.


I got to C in BW and I love both games equally. I'm just not an elitist who thinks BW is the only greatest thing ever and nothing can compare. Both have their faults, but I enjoy both a lot. Although my absolute favorite RTS would be age of empires

Enjoyable interview, wonder how much streaming Flash will do.


scram AoE elitist.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
February 24 2016 01:30 GMT
#49
Fantastic interview, thanks for translating
KT FlaSh FOREVER
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
February 24 2016 01:31 GMT
#50
On February 24 2016 09:22 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 06:38 lastride wrote:
On February 24 2016 05:24 dahtroop wrote:
On February 24 2016 02:28 Bisu-Fan wrote:
BW, LotV, all are still StarCraft, and I wish that fans would show interest in both rather than criticize the other.


God has spoken!

Man this has been my point of view for the last years as well dispite the fact that i prefer bw over sc2 like any day. BW elitists really hurt the game itself by having this ridiculous stance against sc2 and especially lotv. It is too bad that the community was polarized this badly and I really blame kespa for not making the switch earlier. 2011 should be the year of the switch. the last couple of osl's were pointless in my opinion. Everyone was super hyped for wol and the infrastructure was there but a huge opportunity was lost because the community was split in half and other games jumped to the oppotunity. Also the majority of the big names of bw got too old and tired 'til 2013, so they prefered to fool around in afreeca than putting hard work and be competitive in sc2.

Whoever understood BW enough to get C level will never favor it over SC2 or I'd question his taste in strategy games in general.
Sometimes the reason is so evident that we refuse to accept it.

Words of wisdom.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 24 2016 01:57 GMT
#51
Great interview. Flash is awesome.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
jhamas
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru22 Posts
February 24 2016 02:25 GMT
#52
Thanks for the translation good
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
February 24 2016 02:27 GMT
#53
Nice reading, thanks alot for translate!
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5468 Posts
February 24 2016 02:38 GMT
#54
On February 24 2016 06:25 letian wrote:
Almost forgot, "But objectively speaking, if the interest I received in BW was 100, then the interest I had in SC2 was about a 10. "


You understand what this quote means, right? It's not his interest in BW vs. SC2, it's what the fans interest was towards him in either game.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11296 Posts
February 24 2016 03:01 GMT
#55
He says "I tried my best to learn about streaming, but it wasn’t easy. I didn’t have anyone to ask about streaming, so that sucked." yet he's friends with Rain... or is he trying to say there wasn't anyone who knows how to when he was starting his first broadcast?

Great interview, it feels like he's much more open and mature than before. Also lol Dae-yeob.

Thank you very much again Bisu-Fan!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-24 03:05:22
February 24 2016 03:05 GMT
#56
Seems like some Sc2 apologists ended up in this thread, so I won't hold anything back. I played Sc2 in 2010 and it only took me around 3 months to bored of both playing and watching it. Boring units, boring micro, boring strategies, boring mechanics. I switched to HoN for a few years to finally end up with BW in august last year.

I'm not looking at things with rose-colored glasses. BW is an amazing game.

I abhor people who always claim nostalgia is responsible for this divide or criticism. It's the same deal with the Simpsons or even South Park. The first episodes were just better, just deal with it.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
February 24 2016 03:32 GMT
#57
"BW Elitist" here. I appreciate the sentiment that we should all just get along, but it's way too naive. Many
of us gave SC2 an honest chance and preferred BW. Back in 2011 it became quite clear that the e-sports scene and playerbase had become a zero-sum game, a perception Blizzard heavily encouraged.

So some hardcore fans resent a game they consider inferior that took 80% of their players and killed their tournament scene. I'm sure very few hardcore SC2 fans would be guilty of something like that right?
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
February 24 2016 03:35 GMT
#58
Could people please stop doing BW vs sc2? people enjoy different things for different reasons.

On topic, glad to see that Flash doing good post retirement, and holy moly 70k concurrent viewers. Gonna be interesting when he decide to enter tournament again, hope it won't be too long.
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 24 2016 04:48 GMT
#59
On February 24 2016 12:32 Savant wrote:
"BW Elitist" here. I appreciate the sentiment that we should all just get along, but it's way too naive. Many
of us gave SC2 an honest chance and preferred BW. Back in 2011 it became quite clear that the e-sports scene and playerbase had become a zero-sum game, a perception Blizzard heavily encouraged.

So some hardcore fans resent a game they consider inferior that took 80% of their players and killed their tournament scene. I'm sure very few hardcore SC2 fans would be guilty of something like that right?


I understand where the resentment comes from (I think), but isn't it time to let it go? What the point on dividing the community? You're giving a bad time to the people who did nothing wrong: the fans that have to read this trashtalk in almost every thread where SC2 and BW are mentioned, and the players that would like to be the scene more united. What's the purpose of keep feeding this hatred? You gain nothing by doing this and can potentially lose things. I do not understand
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
February 24 2016 04:52 GMT
#60
On February 24 2016 12:32 Savant wrote:
"BW Elitist" here. I appreciate the sentiment that we should all just get along, but it's way too naive. Many
of us gave SC2 an honest chance and preferred BW. Back in 2011 it became quite clear that the e-sports scene and playerbase had become a zero-sum game, a perception Blizzard heavily encouraged.

So some hardcore fans resent a game they consider inferior that took 80% of their players and killed their tournament scene. I'm sure very few hardcore SC2 fans would be guilty of something like that right?


Yeah I'd have to agree with this sentiment.

Maybe if Blizzard hadn't tried to actively kill the SC1 scene under the guise of "broadcasting rights" the games would have good relations.

I still watch both pro scenes but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth to support Blizzard at all.
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