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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
December 21 2015 19:43 GMT
#1
I heard from several Korean starcraft sites that Rain was seen streaming afreeca and plays under panya? ID. I'm not sure if thats the correctly spelled ID but he hit D with 8 losses!!!
Since rain is close with Flash, will we get to see both of them stream BW?!
Life is just life
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary959 Posts
December 21 2015 20:06 GMT
#2
+ Show Spoiler +

pangya
https://www.sendspace.com/file/b1dzbs
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19364 Posts
December 21 2015 20:15 GMT
#3
Oh man that's great. He had true potential in BW.
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
December 21 2015 20:26 GMT
#4
Also (or better) known as By.Sun.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
December 21 2015 20:53 GMT
#5
From now on, he will again be known as By.Sun. The only rain is intotherain
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 21:16:56
December 21 2015 21:14 GMT
#6
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 21 2015 21:17 GMT
#7
what if people make more money streaming than being salaried on a sc2 team?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 21:22:56
December 21 2015 21:22 GMT
#8
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 21 2015 21:24 GMT
#9
On December 22 2015 06:22 Ty2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2015 06:17 amazingxkcd wrote:
what if people make more money streaming than being salaried on a sc2 team?

That's a good point. I have no idea how big a sc2 player's salary of Rain's caliber would be though and how much money an Afreeca streamer receives. I imagine there'd be tough competition too with already lots of streamers and entertainment personalities like Larva and Britney but who knows.


im basing this off of how csgo streamers like moe, summit, etc make way more money streaming then they would ever playing on a professsional team even though they have the skills ot play on a pro team. For example, Moe has 3+ cars (including audis) and Summit has a GTR (goes for $100k). I would assume it is kind of the same for afreeca viewerships and donations over there in terms of the money disparity
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 21 2015 21:57 GMT
#10
On December 22 2015 06:14 Ty2 wrote:
I really don't understand why Rain would want to play Brood War when he was already doing really well in Sc2 and when there's more money to be made. It's hard to imagine he'd go back to Brood war just for the fun of the game. Comparing his career to Effort, Effort was in a slightly different boat where his sc2 career wasn't as successful really. I think Rain recently won a sc2 tournament too?


Why?

I know if you gave me a choice to race bicycles as a domestic pro in Europe and make $40k/year versus a "standard" job that paid well, say $100k/year, it would be an obvious no brainer choice to go race bikes.

Streamers do well enough that it's not like going fro making good money to making no money and having to pick up another side job. It's more like going from a good paying job to one that pays the bills (unless your Shuttle, Bisu, terror, etc.) but that you enjoy much more.

Of course, it's worth stating we don't know if that is the case with Rain. It may be he has just had enough gaming as a pro and wants to play causally on the side and supplement his income while focusing on other interests and letting his health return (partial liver donation).
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
December 21 2015 22:48 GMT
#11
On December 22 2015 06:24 amazingxkcd wrote:
im basing this off of how csgo streamers like moe, summit, etc make way more money streaming then they would ever playing on a professsional team even though they have the skills ot play on a pro team. For example, Moe has 3+ cars (including audis) and Summit has a GTR (goes for $100k). I would assume it is kind of the same for afreeca viewerships and donations over there in terms of the money disparity


What kind of a viewership do these people have though? A streamer with consistent concurrents in the 2000 can make a decent pay on Twitch via donations at least if he really works for it but I don't think he can make that kind of money. Obviously the numbers could look somewhat different for afreeca.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 21 2015 23:36 GMT
#12
Counter Strike 1.6
Broodwar

in my opinion the only god-tier games to ever exist in eSport. Personally I would love to see Broodwar rise again. Remember its not important how old a game is for eSports, simply if it attracts viewers and sponsors. If companies are willing to invest into Broodwar tournament / the scene overall it might as well grow again ;-)

I really like Starcraft 2 and I love my job but there is really no better feeling than playing Broodwar and being already good at t he game getting matched against a Korean or even a good Korean and he shits all across your face so hard you wonder what the hell just happened. I remember Yellow[ArnC] did 5 pool me on Destination and I completely shut it down and still his 1 HATCH MUTA (WHAT) killed me so hard because his muta control was ridiculous.

Good times.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
December 22 2015 00:07 GMT
#13
excited
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 00:10:37
December 22 2015 00:08 GMT
#14
On December 22 2015 08:36 NarutO wrote:
Counter Strike 1.6
Broodwar

in my opinion the only god-tier games to ever exist in eSport. Personally I would love to see Broodwar rise again. Remember its not important how old a game is for eSports, simply if it attracts viewers and sponsors. If companies are willing to invest into Broodwar tournament / the scene overall it might as well grow again ;-)

I really like Starcraft 2 and I love my job but there is really no better feeling than playing Broodwar and being already good at t he game getting matched against a Korean or even a good Korean and he shits all across your face so hard you wonder what the hell just happened. I remember Yellow[ArnC] did 5 pool me on Destination and I completely shut it down and still his 1 HATCH MUTA (WHAT) killed me so hard because his muta control was ridiculous.

Good times.


great to see that somebody like you, who is well established in Starcraft 2 as a commentator / host is still so passionate about broodwar. <3 Let's hope you are right and things will go well for SC:BW in the future.

On topic: im really exited to see Rain play BW. He was quite a promising talent before he made the switch to sc2.
Broodwar for life!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 00:18:55
December 22 2015 00:12 GMT
#15
(T)Ample vs Rain/By.Sun
from 19/12/2015


Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
737 Posts
December 22 2015 00:16 GMT
#16
On December 22 2015 08:36 NarutO wrote:
Counter Strike 1.6
Broodwar

in my opinion the only god-tier games to ever exist in eSport. Personally I would love to see Broodwar rise again. Remember its not important how old a game is for eSports, simply if it attracts viewers and sponsors. If companies are willing to invest into Broodwar tournament / the scene overall it might as well grow again ;-)

I really like Starcraft 2 and I love my job but there is really no better feeling than playing Broodwar and being already good at t he game getting matched against a Korean or even a good Korean and he shits all across your face so hard you wonder what the hell just happened. I remember Yellow[ArnC] did 5 pool me on Destination and I completely shut it down and still his 1 HATCH MUTA (WHAT) killed me so hard because his muta control was ridiculous.

Good times.

AWESOME comment! :D BW really deserves the recognition. IMO, it is THE esport game that defined what we see today.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
December 22 2015 00:18 GMT
#17
On December 22 2015 06:14 Ty2 wrote:
I really don't understand why Rain would want to play Brood War when he was already doing really well in Sc2 and when there's more money to be made. It's hard to imagine he'd go back to Brood war just for the fun of the game. Comparing his career to Effort, Effort was in a slightly different boat where his sc2 career wasn't as successful really. I think Rain recently won a sc2 tournament too?


Lot of sponsored match up, balloons(money), and sponsors like PCMALL.


Example: Shuttle has about 500-1000 viewers. He earns avg of 9k~26k a month. I'm expecting rain to make at least 8k~12k a month since he is really famous among koreans. I mean you have a girl cam making 20k a month with just 100 viewers. I expect rain to have same.
Life is just life
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 22 2015 00:24 GMT
#18
on fish server he now a C rank with 48-21
pretty good for someone whos been off to sc2 for a long while...
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10455 Posts
December 22 2015 00:38 GMT
#19
excited to see what he can do c:
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 22 2015 00:50 GMT
#20
On December 22 2015 09:24 Probemicro wrote:
on fish server he now a C rank with 48-21
pretty good for someone whos been off to sc2 for a long while...


that's very impressive!
Broodwar for life!
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