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I'm looking to get a bunch of my friends together to play Starcraft: Brood War. We'd like to sit at tables near each other and play a few 8 player Free For All games. I have a bunch of questions since I've never done this before.
* Do we need to use iccup/gameranger/hamachi/something else?
* Will a downloaded copy work with someone who has a legit copy of the game?
* Will any old router work or do we need a "switch" that has 8 ethernet slots?
* What multiplayer options should we use? (lan, direct ip connection)
* What 8 player maps should we be playing?
* Any other Starcraft lan/general lan tips?
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While I'm at it, what are my options for playing with my friend who has a legit copy of the game? I'd be downloading the game from the /r/broodwar sidebar. Do we need to use something like ICCup or can we direct ip connection or something?
(This was originally posted on /r/broodwar.)
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* Do we need to use iccup/gameranger/hamachi/something else?+
Use LAN Connection instead, will be much easier to handle instead of running BW online for 8 PCs behind the same IP (if not impossible).
* Will a downloaded copy work with someone who has a legit copy of the game?
You can just type in any serial you want, if you are not connected to Internet while installing, afaik. Cannot join BNet though. Or use ICCUP's BW Version, should also work.
* Will any old router work or do we need a "switch" that has 8 ethernet slots?
If your router has 8 LAN Ports, it will work. Otherwise you ll need a simple switch (9+ ports though) as you already wrote yourself. (f.e. http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-SF1016D-16-Port-100Mbps-Desktop/dp/B000N79VQO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1446224467&sr=8-4&keywords=ethernet 16 port)
* What multiplayer options should we use? (lan, direct ip connection)
LAN UDP Connection works the best. (TCP/IP is worse for more people and unless you use older OS not really better)
* What 8 player maps should we be playing?
Hunters, BGH, Fastest, 4on4 Zero Clutter are the only real 8 Player Maps I know. But you can use any Blizzard map, as 8-player map tend to be trash anyway, so you can also use Blizz maps.
* Any other Starcraft lan/general lan tips?
Have a lot of fun. I'd love to be on a BW LAN.
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Kau
Canada3500 Posts
I would highly recommend Primeval Isles and Killing Fields for 8 player maps.
Oh and Neo Abattoir.
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For maps, you could play on the huge maps there are in the game. 512x512 or 256x256, can't remember. If you are 8 players I think those maps should be quite fun^^ But yeah Hunters man...
Probably can find more good 8 players custom maps out there on some sites.
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I was beaten to it...
Assuming you're not the "FPM 24/7" kinda guys, I'd also add:
Rise and Ruin
to the list
Or one of these for some 2v2v2v2 games:
Joint Venture
Citadel
These have less than 8 spawns, but maybe if some one needs a break:
Thanatos
Sixth Sense
Sympathia
Tectonic Ridge
Paradigm
Some of these are obviously yet in various states of incompletion. But I am always happy to finish a map when there's some actual interest in it.
Some not at all positionally balanced maps would be:
Seven Sins
Isles of Shakuras
I am not at all a fan of 256² sized maps, it's just too big and no mapper can actually be bothered to make one that is not actually a bloody void wasteland because of all the space there is to fill, so you'd be hard-pressed to even find a halfway decent one.... Maybe these ones qualify:
The Suns Star
Red Clover
Dominion
Portal
Starcraft
They are still really oversized for what is on them, and everything is really oversized to "compensate", but it's the best I could find...
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* Any other Starcraft lan/general lan tips?
Play co-operative use map settings games. It's great for when it's 2 in the morning and every one is tired and / or drunk.
I can email you a few great ones if you are interested. PM me.
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BGH is always a blast, and even playing phantom mode is fun for lan parties. Personally I would direct connect with switch / router, doesn't matter which one, we personally use a switch with enough ports. You shouldn't need a unique version for each person, as long as you are not on battle.net you should be fine
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On October 31 2015 02:03 chrisolo wrote:* Do we need to use iccup/gameranger/hamachi/something else?+ Use LAN Connection instead, will be much easier to handle instead of running BW online for 8 PCs behind the same IP (if not impossible). * Will a downloaded copy work with someone who has a legit copy of the game?You can just type in any serial you want, if you are not connected to Internet while installing, afaik. Cannot join BNet though. Or use ICCUP's BW Version, should also work. * Will any old router work or do we need a "switch" that has 8 ethernet slots?If your router has 8 LAN Ports, it will work. Otherwise you ll need a simple switch (9+ ports though) as you already wrote yourself. (f.e. http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-SF1016D-16-Port-100Mbps-Desktop/dp/B000N79VQO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1446224467&sr=8-4&keywords=ethernet 16 port)* What multiplayer options should we use? (lan, direct ip connection)LAN UDP Connection works the best. (TCP/IP is worse for more people and unless you use older OS not really better) * What 8 player maps should we be playing?Hunters, BGH, Fastest, 4on4 Zero Clutter are the only real 8 Player Maps I know. But you can use any Blizzard map, as 8-player map tend to be trash anyway, so you can also use Blizz maps. * Any other Starcraft lan/general lan tips?Have a lot of fun. I'd love to be on a BW LAN.
Any wifi router will work, if some of them are wireless and some are wired makes no difference especially on lan, for fun, with no money at stake.
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Sounds fun, keeping the dream alive
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Phantom BGH would be a great map for your LAN party, OP.
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do 2v2v2v2's instead as the main game. there's a bit more control and you guys can plan other stuff around BW.
like BBQ + 4v4, 1v1, or random draw 2v2 tournament as people are still eating and helping themselves.
i find BW lans breed a bit of ego even amongst friends, which is fine since i'm assuming you guys haven't played for a long time or are newer group. better to just keep it a light atmosphere and churn out games rather than have long downtime as people are dead (in the case of 8-for-all's) and stuff like that.
some people just rather play than to watch other people playing while talking shit and such. and at the very least a team environment is good to alleviate that.
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You can always play some 1v1/2v2 while being dead...
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gl hf! if only I had 8 friends who still play BW haha
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I don't have any friends who still play Brood War. I do have a ton of friends who used to play Brood War though and are nostalgic about it. All I had to do was set something up and invite them.
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You got most of the good advises already. The only other thing we had it happen quite often when we made this kind of a party is that we would discover that we did not all have the same version of the game so some could not join the game.
And it would cause some down time until we had the same version installed on all of the PC.
So make sure you have the same version on all of them.  . Enjoy .
I had a lot of good times having lan parties with my friends playing Brood war. It was awesome.
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lol these maps are pretty cool
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On November 02 2015 01:31 baiesradu wrote:You got most of the good advises already. The only other thing we had it happen quite often when we made this kind of a party is that we would discover that we did not all have the same version of the game so some could not join the game. And it would cause some down time until we had the same version installed on all of the PC. So make sure you have the same version on all of them. . Enjoy . I had a lot of good times having lan parties with my friends playing Brood war. It was awesome.
but you can just copy paste starcraft and it works doesn't it?
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you can play the best 8 player map. Fastest map possible!
btw does anyone know whats the name of that ums that was a race in a square where you had to run for multiple laps and each lap you had a new unit.
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Canada11316 Posts
You could always take a four player map and play Team Melee 1v1v1v1. (That's where two people control the same units/ buildings.)
I'm a big fan of 2v2v2v2's though. I think you get much more interesting multi-front wars.
There's not a lot of team maps with shared entrances, so I tried making a few of my own, but as I'm not a great mapmaker, your mileage may vary, but this is the latest version of the map we used in that 3v2v2 LAN blog I did 2 years ago.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/xaekgdglwi6qbgd/Upper_Kurast_2.0.scm
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Netherlands4804 Posts
On November 02 2015 06:16 Reptilia wrote:
you can play the best 8 player map. Fastest map possible!
btw does anyone know whats the name of that ums that was a race in a square where you had to run for multiple laps and each lap you had a new unit.
I think many people here on TL would disagree with your first statement.
Starcraft/maps/scenario/(5)Race of Death.scm
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On November 02 2015 08:03 Peeano wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 06:16 Reptilia wrote:
you can play the best 8 player map. Fastest map possible!
btw does anyone know whats the name of that ums that was a race in a square where you had to run for multiple laps and each lap you had a new unit. I think many people here on TL would disagree with your first statement. Starcraft/maps/scenario/(5)Race of Death.scm
Not that one. In the one i am talking about everyone gets a new unit every lap and you try to slow down your opponents while you go on. Sometimes you get a slow unit, sometimes a fast one. Super fun game.
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On November 02 2015 15:13 chrisolo wrote:
Blood Marathon?
yeah! thats it! such a fun game with friends
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omg hunters 2x2x2x2s... i back stabbed the guy sitting next to me at a lan with drones then i won the entire 2x2x2x2 alone (granted it was all sc2 players playing bw hunters, but still!)
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Is there anyway to work a mac into this?
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Not sure about problems with newer Mac OSs, but shouldn't BW generally run on Macs?
Anyway, you could always just use any old Windows PC/laptop any one has lying around to run the game... When in doubt, some dusty old piece of junk with something like win95 on it would actually be the least-worries solution...
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Play a 4 on 4 on Octopus (original map) and enjoy the ridiculousness. :D
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It took us an hour to get all of our setup issues resolved but we were eventually able to play 8 player brood war for hours. We got the computers (macs included) connected to the wifi and used an ethernet for our no-wireless-card desktop. We played a few 4v4s, a 2v2v2v2 (on Friends?) and an 8 player free for all (on Wheel of War). We just randomly chose 8 player maps and they generally all turned out to be fine. One map was really low econ and one map only had a few vulnerable expansions. After the first game we had a much better idea of how to balance teams and games were much more even after that. Thanks for all of your help everyone. We'll definitely be doing this again.
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On November 03 2015 08:21 Endymion wrote:
omg hunters 2x2x2x2s... i back stabbed the guy sitting next to me at a lan with drones then i won the entire 2x2x2x2 alone (granted it was all sc2 players playing bw hunters, but still!)
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with drones?????
how bad was he?
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On November 08 2015 17:49 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 08:21 Endymion wrote:
omg hunters 2x2x2x2s... i back stabbed the guy sitting next to me at a lan with drones then i won the entire 2x2x2x2 alone (granted it was all sc2 players playing bw hunters, but still!) ............ with drones????? how bad was he?
he was a sc2 player
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On November 08 2015 20:06 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 17:49 JieXian wrote:On November 03 2015 08:21 Endymion wrote:
omg hunters 2x2x2x2s... i back stabbed the guy sitting next to me at a lan with drones then i won the entire 2x2x2x2 alone (granted it was all sc2 players playing bw hunters, but still!) ............ with drones????? how bad was he? he was a sc2 player
shots fired.
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On November 08 2015 12:47 jayjaywalker3 wrote:
It took us an hour to get all of our setup issues resolved but we were eventually able to play 8 player brood war for hours. We got the computers (macs included) connected to the wifi and used an ethernet for our no-wireless-card desktop. We played a few 4v4s, a 2v2v2v2 (on Friends?) and an 8 player free for all (on Wheel of War). We just randomly chose 8 player maps and they generally all turned out to be fine. One map was really low econ and one map only had a few vulnerable expansions. After the first game we had a much better idea of how to balance teams and games were much more even after that. Thanks for all of your help everyone. We'll definitely be doing this again.
cool missing the good LAN days
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