EPTI guess it's kind of official right now ? Since I've no clue about korean I might be wrong but the pic looks blatant. Anyone cares to translate the article, please ?
Sorry if it has been already posted, I did a research but found nothing.
Garimto joins KTF (?)
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
I guess it's kind of official right now ? Since I've no clue about korean I might be wrong but the pic looks blatant. Anyone cares to translate the article, please ? Sorry if it has been already posted, I did a research but found nothing. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=49033 and in a rinizim translation. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
 admin, close this thread please | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Don't close, most ppl won't notice the comment there. It's better tho make a new thread. ![[image loading]](http://image.fighterforum.com/showImage.asp?realFile=FFNEWS20070123140332001.JPG) To make it short, it says that Garimto (Kim Dong-su) has signed a contract with KTF MagicNs, announced on the 23rd. Out of the gamers who has come back to progaming, he has the highest salary. KTF president Kim says "He was a great player, and he's been able to improve a lot and catch up to the rest. He's a person with great leadership skills and since our team has recently enlarged our numbers to 30 (from something like 10) he will be a good role model for the new practice students." Garimto was a progamer for 3 years between 2000 and 2002. He won the 2000 Freechal Starleague and the 2001 SKY Starleague. His stats were 36-30. Garimto says "It's the team with the two best protosses and the best team in eSports history so I chose them" and "I will bring my skills up to level to not disappoint the company". KTF will hold a ceremony on the 26th and Garimto will join the SuperFight as an official member of KTF on the 27th. (but don't expect him to play!) | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
If this is true this is great news. KTF is a top team and Garimto will get a lot of good practice. I'm not sure how good he'll do though. He's been inactive for so very long, and the skill level for top tier pros has risen quite a bit since his time. I hope he kicks ass though! | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
It's still very cool and all though. ^_^ | ||
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mnm
United States4493 Posts
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mK.))
United States80 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On January 23 2007 13:51 Gandalf wrote: If this is true this is great news. KTF is a top team and Garimto will get a lot of good practice. honestly, I'm not really sure about this. Because KTF is a team with a loaded lineup of start players, many of them have individual league schedules and priority over others. If you recall Lx's situation with SKT1, he mentioned that he could hardly practice with anyone on the team b/c everyone was preoccupied with practicing for someone else already in the leagues. Now granted, Garimto is Garimto, and not Lx, so he will be receiving the "preferential treatment" as well... but in general, KTF isnt a team you go to to receive a lot of quality practice. Rather, it really is a place to get top class accomodations and salary. KTF has a certain number of top players, mediocre players, and practice partners. The ratio of the "top" players having to worry about survivor, dual, starleague, MSL, is so much higher than most other teams, that you'd have to think that in general, the average amount of practice partner time available is lower in such an environment. Yellow - Dual preparations Reach - Survivor preparations Chojja - Survivor currently GoodFriend - Survivor and Starlague Currently rA - MSL currently Sync - Survivor Hery - Survivor Aqua - Survivor which literally leaves only 4 players on their roster, + their practice partners, for dependable practice. At least for a non-star player, a team like SKT or KTF can honestly stunt their progress. On top of this KTF players with their guaranteed long term contracts is the house of slumps and low motivation (yellow poker hi). I really felt that he would have been much better served to go into a hungry, young team, even his former team HanbitStars. | ||
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sweatpants
United States940 Posts
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NuKeke
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
First, I don't think anyone made a news about this, but KTF has expanded their team numbers to 30... yes, 30!!! It is now the largest team out of all 11 (or 12). I don't know if those spots are filled yet, but it's gonna happen. So Garimto will never be short on ppl to play with. Second. He's old. As most ppl know by now age difference is a HUGE deal. Even if you're 1 year younger, you treat them as if they're 30 years older. And since Garimto will most likely be one of the oldest, he'll get to boss around almost anyone on the team. So if he says "practice with me" unless you got a REALLY good reason, you gotta do it. | ||
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mK.))
United States80 Posts
lol. | ||
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thedeadhaji
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
You seem to forget how much respect that name alone commands. Years after his retirement people were saying his name. I honestly am not worried about Garim. I think he will come back and at least hit a top 8 OSL sometime. Come on man.. it's fuckin Garimtoss... You guys have short memories if you forgot who we are talking about. Ra and Reach and Garim on KTF? Get Kingdom on there and you have THE toss legends of old. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
Whether or not he can make it back up to the top tier of progaming foremost depends on his motivation as thedeadhaji pointed out. But I'm also going to question his skill in the game. Sure, he was one of the best a few years back, but does he have the ability to be so again? After all, grrr was the greatest player at one point in time and soon fell away. BoxeR stood the test of time but not flawlessly, he was the undisputed no.1 player but dropped down a bit to "top tier player". Competition is just a lot more stiffer than it was in Garimtos heyday and players are more skilled and probably practice more too. I hope Garimto wins another OSL. That would be awesome. But only time will tell if he's REALLY got it. | ||
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Adidas343
United States103 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
The roster increases are a good sign. At least KTF is trying something different. I'd like to see some CJesque performance from the guys on this team. It's been a while.  | ||
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Cpt Obvious
Germany3073 Posts
i said it before, but i am not getting tired of repeating it: Kim Dong-Soo returning to SC progaming is better than christmas and birthday in one for me. I hope tosses will rise again and finally beat saviOr up big time. ah well, day-dreaming  | ||
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comebackGyunTae
Korea (South)76 Posts
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LivingDead
Russian Federation15 Posts
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On January 23 2007 14:43 Gandalf wrote: Hmmm both thedeadhaji and live2win make logical arguments. I hope he gets loads of practice from the top KTF players though. Whether or not he can make it back up to the top tier of progaming foremost depends on his motivation as thedeadhaji pointed out. But I'm also going to question his skill in the game. Sure, he was one of the best a few years back, but does he have the ability to be so again? After all, grrr was the greatest player at one point in time and soon fell away. BoxeR stood the test of time but not flawlessly, he was the undisputed no.1 player but dropped down a bit to "top tier player". Competition is just a lot more stiffer than it was in Garimtos heyday and players are more skilled and probably practice more too. I hope Garimto wins another OSL. That would be awesome. But only time will tell if he's REALLY got it. Boxer's actually a good comparision becuase not only did he fall to "top tier player", at one point he fell reaaaaally far down if I remember correctly, reworked his entire game to fit the current trends of macro play, and resurrected himself from the bottom. It's this kind of "reinvention" of himself that Garimto has to go through, so it is a good comparison. (except Boxer never had such a long leave of absence like Garim) | ||
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Storchen
Sweden4385 Posts
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
On January 24 2007 00:56 PuertoRican wrote: garimto looks like the bouncer for KTF in that pic. hahaha lol true true it'd be cool to see him back cuz i never got to see his games when he was still playing. I think i got into the pro kor sc scene after he left and have only seen highlight vids of him. protoss fighting for the motherfucking win | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
Super awesome! | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Boxer was never anything less than a top tier player. You know why people freaked out? Because Boxer didn't make the semi-finals in like a year and a half or something. Oh no~ Boxer didn't get top 4. I never understood how people can look at Boxer's overall and say he ever fell short of the highest tiers of pro-gamers. | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On January 23 2007 14:39 SuperJongMan wrote: I'm sure it doesn't matter to him.. he's Garimtoss. You seem to forget how much respect that name alone commands. Years after his retirement people were saying his name. I honestly am not worried about Garim. I think he will come back and at least hit a top 8 OSL sometime. Come on man.. it's fuckin Garimtoss... You guys have short memories if you forgot who we are talking about. Ra and Reach and Garim on KTF? Get Kingdom on there and you have THE toss legends of old. i'm so old school kingdom seems like he's new | ||
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exihea
United States413 Posts
Nada made to OSL finals 3 times and won all of them. Boxer made to the finals 6 times but won only 2 of them. On January 24 2007 09:07 SuperJongMan wrote: You guys are smoking crack. Boxer was never anything less than a top tier player. You know why people freaked out? Because Boxer didn't make the semi-finals in like a year and a half or something. Oh no~ Boxer didn't get top 4. I never understood how people can look at Boxer's overall and say he ever fell short of the highest tiers of pro-gamers. | ||
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Pressure
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On January:56 PuertoRican wrote: garimto looks like the bouncer for KTF in that pic. lmao yeah compare that to his hairstyle in 2001 | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
On January 24 2007 10:56 CoralReefer wrote: i'm so old school kingdom seems like he's new You're so new school you don't even know Kingdom was before Boxer. | ||
KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
http://www.fighterforum.com/news/news_read.asp?cat=ISS&idx=16444 Anyone can translate please? | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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mK.))
United States80 Posts
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sizcyp
145 Posts
On January 23 2007 14:02 mnm wrote: ^_^ KTF Fighting!~ I still want a ktf uniform. not digging the orange though. u are pretty enough without ktf uniform ;p gl to garimto, how old is he now? | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On January 24 2007 10:56 CoralReefer wrote: i'm so old school kingdom seems like he's new lol? KingDom played vs Guillaume when he was the best, at those time nobody even knew that Reach and Nal_rA exist | ||
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
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DTDominion
United States2148 Posts
KTF, where the greats go to die. Comeon Garimto. | ||
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nite3
130 Posts
Is he better than draco for example?(im talking about current abilities) | ||
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Total-War
Norway83 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6776 Posts
On January 26 2007 11:18 sizcyp wrote: u are pretty enough without ktf uniform ;p gl to garimto, how old is he now? ehehehe sizcyp knows the way with the ladies ;-);-);-) | ||
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[Carlodajin]
Peru306 Posts
Its nice that he joined KTF Team...since YellOw is there...I cant wait to see a match of him... | ||
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ilovezil
United States4143 Posts
On January 27 2007 06:54 [Carlodajin] wrote: GL to Garimto...he was one of the best in the past...I am sure he will do very well now in 2007... Its nice that he joined KTF Team...since YellOw is there...I cant wait to see a match of him... and carlodajin knows the way with progamers, especially boxer ~_~ | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11598 Posts
On January 26 2007 11:58 nite3 wrote: What do you guys think about his skill level? Is he better than draco for example?(im talking about current abilities) i bet you he is | ||
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