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United States8097 Posts
https://www.idlethumbs.net/designernotes/episodes/rob-pardo-part-1 It covers the early days of Blizzard and the development of StarCraft 1 and Brood War pretty extensively and there's some really fascinating stuff in it. Part 2 covers the development of War3, WoW, and SC2. | ||
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Miwyfe
England101 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/473471-4-hours-of-pardo-discussing-blizzard-game-design I posted the following in the other thread: This is far from comprehensive but will get you started. There are other topics discussed in between the bits Ive tagged etc. Starcraft 1 relevant bits: Part 1, Starcraft 1 sections: 00.38 (game balance) 00.46 (Zileas using reavers) 00.51 (fastest game speed) 00.55 (apm) 01.07 (Maps) 01.10 (Broodwar specifically as opposed to starcraft vanilla) 01.18 (Amount of hours he worked) 01.21 (Meaning of balance, Boxer using vultures) 01.22 (emergent gameplay, spellcasters, move and shoot units) Part 2 01.26 on part 2 (unlimited unit selection for starcraft 2) | ||
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Kahanho0
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Probemicro
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On January 10 2015 19:05 Hesmyrr wrote: Thanks for the notification! We're actually very excited about this event and already have bunch of threads dedicated to K[H]SL  lol hesmyrr confirmed for bot? | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
 // for the few ppl who might not remember, Pardo was the lead designer on BroodWar, along with Chris Metzen | ||
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EndRoll
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
– It's too bad the interviewer didn't seem to know much about SC/BW. He kept relating everything back to games he himself helped design (Civ 3, 4). I get why he did that, but still, kinda annoying... the interview wasn't about Civ after all. Perhaps bone up on a bit on BW if you're going to interview its lead designer for several hours? – Pardo had some interesting comments on game speed: "during development we played one notch above the middle speed [Fast]"... "we didn't think anyone would really play on Fastest"... "I myself don't really enjoy playing on Fastest." Kinda confirms a suspicion I've had for years that Fastest was a fluke speed. – Some of Pardo's comments on balance are a bit odd, at least at first glance. He talks about how incredibly committed to balance he was during SC's development, but as we all know, SC vanilla got released in pretty horribly imbalanced shape... even several months after release, ladder stats were showing some maps with Zerg win rates over 80%, and that's over thousands of games, i.e a large enough statistical sample. Maybe it would've been even worse without Rob's efforts (and to be fair, he wasn't lead designer on vanilla, just BW), but still, kinda points to the idea that maybe balance wasn't initially prioritized by Blizzard as a whole so much at first. Or if it was, they sure were bad at it  .He also doesn't mention the role the community played in helping force Blizzard's hand a bit... Bliz was flooded with balance complaints for months after vanilla's release (didn't really slow 'til 1.04 & BW came out), the Bliz forums were pretty much about imba wall-to-wall, threads with hundreds of posts on it were not uncommon. Have to wonder if that didn't strengthen Rob's hand some as 'Mr. Balance Guy' within Bliz, or even help make him a bit more the logical choice as LD for BW. – I really like Pardo's design ethos, he wants to keep the cool and challenging stuff in, while still keeping things as fair and reasonable as is practical. He doesn't sound absolutist, but rather a guy who understands that design is about trade-offs and simultaneously juggling a dozen different things at once. I also like his thoughts on offense-oriented gameplay in RTS, namely, that's where it's at, not pointlessly drawing out games between two very mismatched players in terms of skill level. Of course, Rob/Bliz may've gone too far with this early on... *cough* 4-5 pools under 150 mineral spawning pool *cough cough*. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
You get the feeling either his opinions changed a lot over the years, or he had waaay more control over SC2 than he did SC1. Maybe his opinions just got more specific over the years, since SC2 seems to play exactly the way he thinks about it, but there are a lot more viable play styles in SC1 that don't fall under his ideas about what makes a fun game, at least on the community made maps. His ideas actually resonate pretty true in SC1 too for the default Blizzard maps. | ||
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tehredbanditt
103 Posts
I've always heard that the brood war units were already finalized when original Sc shipped , but Robs comments seemed to suggest otherwise. He also seemed to express desire to keep high skill ceilings in his games on many occasions, which makes me wonder why sc2 turned out the way it did ( he claimed that he advocated for the removal of limited unit selection in sc2). He did state the at the end of sc2 development he stopped working on the project, and during production he had many side jobs as well. But yea. .. I wanted more questions like, " how did you come up with hit point values for units," or " what are three units / ideas that you liked but were unable to put into broodwar? And why were you unable to put them in?" It's funny that the games he was a major part if creating are my all time favorite games ( bw, wc3 , vanilla / bc wow) yet up until a year ago I had no idea who he was | ||
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